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Is it TOO low to be true? (21,000 with Dest)
I started shopping for 2006 Accord LX V6 since mid Dec 2005.
Got following quotes - Base price (includes $550 Dest, No options).
Open Road Honda (Edison, NJ) - $22,550
Dch Kay Honda (Eatontown, NJ) - $22,500
Dch Academy Honda (Old Bridge, NJ) - $22,700
Planet Honda (Union, NJ) didn't give his price, just said that he can't beat other dealers $22,500; and that I should buy from other place.
Then suddenly on 12/31 Planet Honda called and quoted $21,000 With Dest. That's $1500/- less than others AND over $2000 below invoice ($23,100).
Other dealers are saying that it's an impossible deal as it's much below even their district price. They claim that it's probably a fixed up car.
Called Honda Company's Customer Relations to find out if it's just a Great Deal or Impossible (fake) deal. The guy over the phone was surprised as well, but said that it's just a very good price and that may be Planet Honda really needs to sell that vehicle.
Googled "Planet Honda" and found some bad press. Even BBB is has bad rating for them.
:confuse:
I'm thinking it's one of the saleman's trick to get you to come to the dealer, then get you hooked on the car. But it never hurts to try as long as you're careful.
I eventually got a salesperson by waiting until one of them approached someone else and got rejected and then I jumped in so fast that he couldn't say he was busy since they had just offered to help someone else.
Some example conversations I had with this salesman:
First visit...
Me: I'm not interested in buying today, only test driving the 2006 Accord LX-SE.
Him: There is no SE this year.
Me: Yes, there is.
Him: No, there isn't.
Me: Yes, there is. You might want to check your inventory.
Him (long pause after looking it up): OK, let's go test drive it.
....
Him (after the test drive): Let's fill out this sheet to start. What is your target price?
Me: I already told you I'm not interested in buying today.
Him: I can get you a great deal on a 2005 EX-V6. Let's fill out this sheet.
Me: I already told you I'm not interested in buying today. And I'm interested in the 2006 LX-SE.
At this point I stood up and left.
Then I proceed to get bombarded with phone calls every day for 2 weeks. A few gems emerged:
Conversation #1
Him: I can get you a great deal on the 2005.
Me: I'm only interested in the 2006.
Him: Why? The 2005 is identical.
Me: No it's not, the rear looks better, and it has a better warranty.
Him: The rear is identical and the warranty is the same.
Me: Have you even looked at the back of the car? It's completely different. And the 2006 warranty is not identical. It's better.
Him (laughing): The warranty is the same. What part do you think is different?
Me: There's a new 5/60 powertrain warranty.
Him: No, there's not. That's for the rust.
Me: Yes, there is.
Him: No, there's not.
Me: You might want to check your brochure because there absolutely is.
Him: OK. Then call me when you're interested in buying.
Conversation #2.
Him: Why don't you come in and we can talk about getting you a new car?
Me: I'm not going to bother coming in unless you can give me a good deal.
Him: What do you think is a good deal?
Me: Invoice. Or below invoice.
Him (laughing): You can't get invoice on this car! No one will give that to you!
Me: I already got invoice from another dealer.
Him: ....OK, well why don't you come in and we can work out a deal.
Me: Can you give me less than invoice?
Him: We'll see what we can work out.
Me: I'm not coming in unless you can guarantee me less than invoice.
Him: OK, well then call me when you're interested in buying.
I wouldn't go near Planet Honda without a firm quote in writing with an OTD price broken down with all taxes and fees and a guarantee that the car is a new 2006 with the model you want with less than 20 miles on the odometer. And I would double-time it out of there if there was even a sniff of them trying to play any games.
I ended up buying the same car you're looking at, a 2006 LX-V6 at Open Road Honda. The transaction took less than 1 hour and they didn't try any games or nonsense at all.
Well, I test drive the car at Planet Honda. Looked OK.. No dents etc.. I checked VIN at carfax.. it's a 2006 LX V6 al right.. without any history ... and less that 7 miles.
I went to Planet Honda after they gave me a price over the phone. Once I reached there, they calculated the PO with the same price.. $22,700 on road.
They had the same car in 4-5 colors on the lot. Can't imagine that all are damaged/fixed/funny cars. I am only worried about what if they have replaced/removed some part like VSA chip etc?
Can they really screw me AFTER I pay them cash. like increasing the price later.. not giving the title till I pay more?
Also the manager wouldn't accept the Car Loan Check from my credit union. My CU claims that it's as good as cash. Manager insisted on the Cashier Check OR financing through dealer.
I know Open Road Honda are supposed to be reputed and all.. but hard to ignore $1500 difference.
Has anyone bought this car at this price recently?
Which location/dealer did you buy this Accord from?
CAR: $20,174.00
DOC: $45.00
TAX: $1,566.99 (7.75)
LIC: $178.00
TIRE: $8.75
Smog: $12.00
Total: $21,985
When I bought mine, salesman lied to me twice. First, He said he have the car on one of their lot which he didn't. Second, He quoted $19,986(online, before i went)but i paid $20,147(when i signed). Now i have to wait till next wed and pay more than i was going to. But since i got all those accessories i guess i did okay. Hope you could do better.
And i found out if any dealer tries to lie to you or do anything they aren't suppose to, you can file complains to DMV and they'll take care the rest. DMV can sue them and can take their dealer license away.
anyway I cannot tell you how great this car is cuz i don't have the car yet :(:( can't wait till next wed.
And they were avoiding me even before I told anyone I was only there to test drive. If they had just treated me with respect and without lying every time we spoke, I would have continued to go back to Planet Honda once I had finally decided on which car to get.
As far as bargaining at different dealerships, do you NOT do this? Why are you reading this forum if you don't?
You got the LX V6 for $21,000 plus tax and license? That is a great deal.
OTD Price (Boston MA)
Price w/ Dest Charge: 26,000
MA Sales tax (5%): 1,300
Registration Fee: 36
Title Fee: 50
Document prep fee: 298
Total OTD price: 27,684.00
I know I got burned about on the Doc prep fee, but oh well. I think, for those buying w/o Navi, it is fair to just subtract off 2,000.
If I were that salesman I would lose interest in you fast...that salesman did you a favor by patronizing you.
I haven't exactly bought the vehicle yet. Have a PO singed by them, with $22600 OTD. They are after me to come and collect it.
Just scared of them, because of some of the bad opinion I have seen about Planet Honda, Union, NJ
They told me the same price over the phone and in the shop.
I don't think they will cheat me in price now.
I am only worried about what if the car is damaged/fixed etc.
Has anyone bought this vehicle at this price recently? Does anyone have any good experience with them?
Maybe you just aren't ready to buy a new car now.
I just read that Honda Accord Sales were not so hotlast month (down 31% compared to December of 2004) and down over 4% for the past year. I had a feeling that Accord sales would be hurt in December. Competition is fierce in the mid size segment. I really like the new changes to the Accord.
If the dealerships don't like it...TOUGH!
Without customers to sell to, they will sell squat, and most people need at least one test drive for each vehicle considered. Something seems really wrong with the dealers attitudes. Luckily, I always buy our vehicles when I don't need it that day.
Just my $.02, so let me have it guys...!
The Sandman
Planet Honda, Union, NJ - $22600 OTD
my earlier car broke down a month ago.
There is only so much tele-commuting boss will let me do.
I am happy with the price I am getting. Just worried about the BAD comments I have seen on this forum and also on the web for this dealer (Planet Honda). Their BBB rating also sucks.
One friend bought a Ody from Planet Honda in Oct 2005. He is happy. He got it for $1500 below Open Road Honda's best price.
I'm almost set to buy a 2006 lx-v6 for 22,800 + tax & tags, but I can't believe the finance rates I'm being offered. I'm a tier 1 and was quoted 6.69% for up to 66 months through Honda Financial. Has anyone heard of any upcoming financing incentives through Honda?!? I know it's been a while since they offered something on the Accord. Will something pop-up before the end of the month???
earlyer i posted that i bought 2006 lx SE and its comming from factory next wed to my dealer. they called me this tues telling me the car has arrived sooner and its ready to pick up. when i got there i found out it has different Vin#, some of accessories was not there, had 30miles on it and it has orange peel on front bumper. so i told him no thanks i'd rather wait for my real car next wed. when i told him he changed his attitude and told me my car is not comming for another 90days and i have to take the car or deal is off(he actually quoted "take it or leave"). after about 30mins of pressure i decided to unwind the deal and ask for my check back. their finacial person told me i have to wait 10 days to get my money back sicen they cashed and have to bring proof that check went clr from my bank. i must say they gave me lot of troulble and headach plus stress. today i'm going to dealer w/proof to get my money back. hopefully i'll get moneyback today or BBB here i come.
here is few more thing i experienced.
1)he said long as i bring proof, he'll match any price. when i got there he said no. (bait-and-switch) ???
2)he said it takes only few mins to complete the deal and asked me to come. when i got there he made me wait about 2 hours.
3)made me fill out credit application by telling me its required by LAW. even though i had preaproved check from my CU.
4)i got a letter yesterday from him. on the letter it say" now that you pickedup your new car pls enjoy driving". what car ??? :confuse: :confuse:
now, hearing word 'honda' gives me stress, waisted so much time, and tired of shopping. thinking buying differnt car maybe altima.
question to you guys,
can they cash my check even though i never received the car ?
thanks for reading. best wishes for all you guys.
ps. sry for bad english.
I don't think the Altima is as good a car as the Accord. . not as safe .
if they refuse to give me moneyback what can i do ?
23,500 base (around 1K below invoice) plus
550 destination plus
6% tax plus
189 doc plus
222 dmv plus
7.50 tire
the total was 25912 OTD.
i got splash guards, door edge guards, pinstripes and two oil changes free.
I sealed the deal on Dec 31.
Open Road on the other hand made me drive for 30 mi (not ready to commit anything over the phone) and didn't match Planet Honda's offer. They actually INCREASED their not-yet-expired online price quote by 300$ once they came out with free car starter/ 3 yr oil change offere. Basically asking you to pay extra for these 'freebies'. One of my friends had an even nastier exp with Open Road. They were trying to pass off a scratched car to him. &%*^$#^%%$%!!!!!
Thanks for sharing your experiences and good luck to all.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
How much off the sticker should it be?
This is the dealer's last 2005 - Any extra incentives?
Is the TMV price on Edmunds current or was that the TMV price at the end of the model year?
Any help greatly appreciated
I am glad I found at least one +ve vote for Planet Honda.
My numbers are very similar to yours. Since I am going for LX, the base price quoted by Planet is.
21,000 base (incl Dest) (2000 below invoice ?)
6% tax +
189 doc +
222 dmv +
7.50 tire
I have a PO done on 12/31. Just haven't picked up the car yet, since they have a problem with the "Car Loan Check" given by my CU. They want me to either take their financing, or bring a Certified Check.
Thanx!
If you don't buy it from them, I don't think they will mind that much . . It's a zero deal for them.
Thanx!
MSRP: 25,650 (25,100 + 550)
Invoice: 23,140
Dealer Offer : 21000 (incl Dest)
That's 2,140 below invoice + car includes $200 accessories.
I am only aware of 3% holdback dealers receive = $753.
Where do they make up remaining $1387 ?
Anyone aware of it?
Could it be a Demo car as someone suggested? what can be wrong with buying the demo car. It has only 6 miles on it, so it can't be a test-drive car.
Pay the extra $1000 and you don't have to worry that it has been in an accident or possible hurricane damage.
Bottom line is this.....they are in sales games, it is their job to inform you about the product they are selling, and half of the time they don't know their product very well....part of the process of selling that product is a test drive.....and IF you have other products in mind (i.e. a different model car) how can you compare these products without testing them out first. And do these test drives back to back in the smartest thing you can do.....do this while everything is fresh in your mind....how it feels, is the power right, is the handling is right, etc....since a car is a product in the sales game it should not be treated any different than let's say a TV....the only difference is one you have to drive...the other you click a remote....would you buy the first TV you look at without comparing? I don't think so....The people who are in sales (especially cars) know what they are getting themselves into.....if you expect people to walk onto a lot and point at a car and say I'll take it.....then wake up and smell the coffee....If you don't want to be in sales game then don't do it.....but don't get bent out of shape because someone is shopping for a product and has several options in mind other than yours....The only thing a person should do is at least be honest, and REALLY be in the market for a new car....don't go out on a Saturday and drive a bunch of cars because you are bored.....that part of it is wrong....and then yes you are wasting the salesman valuable time when they could be with a potential customer.......When I am going to a lot to test drive and NOT ready to buy that day I tell them up front.....and if I am looking at different makes of cars I tell them up front also......have not once had a salesman walk away from me nor treat me like crap......so if that happens to someone then it must be the dealership....just go to another one.....someone will take your business!
Just my .02
I once had a "customer" ask to test drive three diffent types of cars and ask a bunch of questions. They had not done any research or thinking, just wanted to waste a lot of my time, when I could be helping somone else.
Of course, I gave the pest the "bum's rush" and helped a real customer. . . .
The VP has practically everything the LX 4 cylinder has. (Oddly, the specs on the Honda website say you can't adjust the seat up & down, but I just drove the VP and you can!)
The stereo has only 2 speakers, but it sounds surprisingly good, and you can easily add the other speakers yourself.
So, the LX adds power side mirrors, auto off headlights, a couple of lights inside and slightly nicer tires (same wheels). Not worth $1800! According to CarsDirect, you can get the VP for 17,500 in the SF Bay Area, and I'm sure you could negotiate down from that at a dealer.
I'm surprised Honda has made the bottom of the line car so complete!
Looking for what deal you got in an 4 or 6 cylinder EX w/ Leather. If you got the navigation, feel free to throw in as well but we’re primarily looking for prices without.
I will drive for a good deal! Help me find one!
Thx,
Brent
I bought a 06 EX V6 in mid october and in the 2 weeks before it was looking to test drive it. Had an appointment at a dealer near my home but since I was out at a meeting where I was going to join my new job I thought I would walk into the nearest Honda Dealership (Lakewood Honda in NJ) and take a test drive and talk to the salespeople there.
Well waddaya expect. I drove into the dealership (with my wife and kid and incidentally my old car has New York plates) and asked to test drive the car. When I spoke with the salesman he gave me the run around saying he couldn't let me test drive the car on the road, just inside the "parking lot".(Mayebe he thought I was just driving down from New York on a visit)
I told him not to waste my time as I had an appointment at my workplace in some time and he said, "If we are not buying a car today then what are we doing?".
Well, I bought the car in the next few days (after the test drive where the salesman was extremely courteous and answered all my questions patiently).
So Lakewood Honda lost my business, plus any business they would have gotten from my colleagues and friends!
So where did I read that you have to take a lot of cold calls to get some business, that's part of the business; and the last I heard car salesmen didn't really get a crash course in mind reading from Mr Spock.
PT.
Wanted to save some money so I opted against the '06.
The dealer was the Diamond Bar Honda in Diamond Bar, CA.
Good luck.
I though Honda always wrote just "Accord" or "Accord LX" or "Accord EX" behind the car (on the trunk).
But I noticed that 2006, V6 models only say - "Accord V6". How do you know if it's LX-V6, or EX-V6 (or something else)?
Is this new this year?
Look for leather seats and a moonroof.. If it is lacking either, it is an LX-V6.. If it has them, then it is an EX-V6... (LX-V6s are few and far between).
regards,
kyfdx
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As, a side note does the 4 cylinder car have sufficient power or is a six much better?
Burns honda in marlton is offering a an EX-V6 Sedan w/ 6MT for $24,800. Does that sound good to you guys or is there a better deal available in Jersey?!?