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And Rainbow24, get over it man. I am sick of your shirt and milk analogies. As someone stated, we all know that we each pay the same price for the same gallon of milk, and, for a shirt, we just wait till it goes on sale, use a coupon, take out a store credit card that we never again use... or go somewhere else! Please, stop getting mad that customers are trying to learn to play the game whose rules you guys laid down. I was again givin the run around yesterday, or do you say "taken for a rocket ride" when I inquired about an Accord NAVI. I had stated my price in writing, then spoken on the phone and again stated my price, rebuffed a higher counter-offer, and then, when told that if I was willing to buy by the end of the month he could do it at my price, I was instructed to fax over a finance application. I instead chose to drive over, and was told by the internet sales manager's manager, that the internet sales manager would not be authorized to sell me that car at that price and that he wouldn't even have that car this month. I was very frank, this price and we have a final sale, anything else and we don't, and had a verbal agreement (not worth the paper they're written on), only to hear that whatever I'd been told was not even possible once I actually went in person. Thank god I did not fax over a credit application! So please, don't compain. Sell it to me or don't, but don't complain that I'm haggaling... as kids would say, "you started it."
auto, were you charged extra for your KARR, Keyless Entry Alarm Upgrade Module? We were able to purchase our car at invoice but
we then charged an additional $399 for KARR.
Some dealers give you good price, lower then anybody else, but then when you say "Ok, I am buying the car at this price" they will add some fees on top of this
like Delivery Charge(which is already paid by destination charge)
i.e. I got quote for EX V6 for $500 over invoice
the total is $24175 (including destination charge)
from first dealer, the other dealer gave me a a price that was slightly lower 24000, but then tried to add delivery charge of $460(he claimed it was differend from destination charge) and document fee of $168(too high I think) and computer fee $30 (to put my info in the computer!! ;o))))
so in the end the price was higher than the first dealer offered
after I said that I don't want to pay destination fee twice, second dealer came up with a quote which was about the same as the first one.
remember me? The one aiming for 25,200 on the NAVI, well I've come close, 25,579, with the 3.9 financing... I'm going in this afternoon. I'll let you know the main details if the deal is closed at this price. And if I get screwed around with, well, you'll be sure to hear that too. FYI, another dealer also offered 25,673 (but just doesn't have the car in TODAY), so contacting the internet sales managers only has yeilded results so far. Wish me luck!
-nobee
For others in the New England area, you should be able to get great deals on DXs & LXs (manual) and at least invoice on automatics. Don't know about EXs. Seems like the new car market isn't doing too well in New England right now, so great deals are out there!
We didn't really want leather, but the only blue EXs on the lot had leather. The 4cyl has plenty of power for us.
We drove a Mazda 6 the other night. My husband really like its exterior and the way it drives, but the Accord is more comfortable and a better vehicle for the price (IMHO). I just like Honda!
I had emailed all the local sales managers and they came back with the best price and were the first to tell me that this weekend the 3.99% financing was back on... which was funny as many of the other dealers just the day before were saying I wouldn't find 3.9%, which was one of my sticking points for buying it anywhere.
At first I was very wary, thinking it was a demo or something, and expecting a higher price in person... but they were very good. I love the car, it is smooth as silk, honestly. It's scary how easy it is to be way over the speed limit as it is soo smooth. Well this is long, if anyone wants more details just ask... Good luck out there! - Ben
Since I saw a Bernardi Honda ad matching the price that I got, I’m sure other area dealers are coming within spitting distance of this lower price. What I’m taking from this well-below-invoice pricing is that the Accords/Civics aren’t selling as well as dealers had expected here in New England. Dealers are offering VERY low prices on basic manual transmission models to get customers into the dealership. One should be able to get invoice on LX and DX automatics with a minimum of sales trauma around here, and probably less with some haggling. As for higher end models or other areas of the country/Canada, I can’t say much, though I hope everyone will find the same thing that I found here high inventories & low prices!
As for the car, what can I say comfortable, fun to drive, smooth shifting, & much more powerful than I expected (easily up to 70 in third gear)! Can’t imagine what a v-6 would be like! Just hope this new generation accord will be as reliable as the previous one!
I plan on buying a 2003 Honda Accord Coupe V6 EX with the navi system within the next week. I've checked just about every website I can find and from what I can tell the dealer invoice is around $25,102. I'm in the Bay Area, and I was wondering if anyone from the Bay Area has purchased this car and where they went, how much they paid, and what interest rate they got. The same info from other parts of the country would also be helpful.
Thanks!
Thanks in advance!
I do not know about other models' availablity. If your near the area I would give the dealership a call. They were great to deal with. No games were played, and they were very knowledgable. They showed me many things I hadn't been shown when I been at another dealer for a test drive, and the salesman, Jonathan Barnswell, even sat in the car for me for nearly an hour after I'd signed all the papers showing me the ins and outs of the system. It was a very good experience.
And my father, who never likes any salesman, was very impressed with the salesman, and the dealership's customer satisfaction program.
Oh, one of my favorate things in the NAVI is that you can set it, using your voice (of course) to display any combination of things, such as ATM's, gas stations, hotels, restaurants, that are along the road as you drive. As you drive the navi system is usually in map mode, displaying where you are as you go, and it just puts little icons indicating the gas station, etc, locations on all the roads within the screen. Way cool for a trip... and it has a "trip computer" funtion that instantaneously shows your gas milage at your level of acceleration, your average gas milage since you last reset it, and how many more miles you can go until you will runout (given the average gas use of the last several miles). Neat eh, I like to leave it in that screen allot for fun.
Is your price of $25,579 before destination charges? I would think so otherwise you scored a deal of about $100 over invoice.
Lastly, other than the agreed upon price and destination charges, what other fees are there? Is document fee the same as the title fee?
Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks also for the post on the navigation. My friend owns an Acura MDX and it was quite helpful for him and I think this would be a great help to the misses as she doesn't do well with maps.
To answer your question, fotomaniak, there are no monthly fees for the navigation system. Once purchased, it is yours to use. My understanding is that it does connect to a satellite.
As for my price, the 25,579 was the out the door price. The only extra was MD's 5% tax, and $149 fees for the dealer to do all the registration and stuff so I don't have to go to the DMV or anything (this is a worth-while fee that is really about equal to what you would pay to do it all- correct me if I'm wrong). So yeah, I think I was able to get a good price, especially as they also had the 3.9 financing back on for last weekend. At least I hope it was a good price as I can't do anything about it now. Again, it was at Jim Coleman Honda. They didn't play a single game, like "tell me what other quotes you get." And if your in the MD, VA area I would stay the heck away from Rosenthal. They tried the bait and switch! Said I have one at that price, we need to act fast, fax over your financing papers. Instead I just drove over and their manager was shocked at the price I said I had been promised and said no way and he didn't have the car anyway. Again, I just found websites for the local dealers and then found their internet sales managers email and sent him a note. Actually, I'll paste in what I wrote most of them following this.
Anyone know a cheap place to get the Trunk Tray? I don't think Jim Coleman had it at the time.
To be sure we have no confusion I will address all my questions to you following the Carbargains outline I apply towards all dealers. I am willing and able to purchase the EX-V6 NAVI in Black with Birds Eye look trim, or Graphite Pearl as soon as I find a reasonable offer. I will not share your price with other dealers, nor will I agree to any sale until I have received from you in writing (email is acceptable) answers to the following questions.
I'm contacting each dealer on my list and asking what each wants as a markup or markdown from factory invoice cost. You have quoted me $25,479, plus $100. To be sure all quotes are on the same basis I need to go over with you exactly what charges show up on your out the door price. Is the it the $25,579 listed above or do you plan to add a dealer advertising fee, dealer prep fee, port charges, other miscellaneous charges. And how much do you plan to charge for each? You have stated you have no doc. fees, will there be any dealer add-ons you expect to charge for, wheel locks, ect., for which I have no interest? If you do not have above color will you exchange for it, or order it, and will you add a fee for that? For how long will your offer be valid?
My intent is to be as straight forward and honest with you as possible and avoid unnecessary confusion, I hope your answer to the above questions will bring us to the end of any necessary negotiations. Thank you for your time.
Your letter is very direct and focuses on any possible "hidden" costs. Thanks again.
Umyaya is absolutly correct.. If you want the best price and the easiest experience just contant three local dealership's with exactly what you are willing to pay and have them spell out exactly how the different numbers come together
Either the dealership will agree to your price, or give you their absolute bottom line...
Care to share which dealer and sales person in Chicago you got the deal? Thanks.
he did not try to play games ;o), but did not want to negociate at all
Could you please tell what other fees you have been charged in addition to the price of the car?
(document fee, DMV etc...)
did you buy any additional accessories?
This guy quoted me 350 for auto day/night rearview mirror... which has MSRP of $250, that's why I wonder what you were charged for dealer installed accessories.
Do they offer extended warranty? if yes, what's the price?
Thanks!
Igor
As I realize in my posts I split up the dealer info, again, I went to Johnathan Barnswell, at Jim Coleman Honda. Not only did I not have to "play any games," but they, John especially, were very willing to go over everything in the car with me. The place closed at 9, but they showed me all the car's gadgets till nearly 10pm. Well, if that sounds like a big plug, it is, because it was such a more pleasant experience than my previous ones while shopping. Good luck out there... I'd buy quickly, it looks to me like the market, for this car (NAVI), and in general, is heating up again.
F&I guy didn't push anything, in fact, I asked about extended warranty. Great experience, after reading here about dealer horror stories, I wasn't sure what to expect. I would recommend this dealer to anyone in the NYC area, especially Frank, but just make sure you have good info when you walk into the store.
I had gone to hondawarranty.com and got a $820 quote for a 7yr 75M 0 Deductible and they also added a $75 discount for $820-75=$745. I printed this out and asked if the dealer could match the price. I read here at TH that anything under $800 was a good price for the warranty. They said they could match it and I bought it. Remember, this is for HondaCare, which is backed by American Honda, they will try to sell you a cheaper warranty by other companies, but this is the best for a Honda (IMHO). Go to hondawarranty and check out the coverage, its pretty comprehensive. After seeing all the electronics and computer supported systems on the EXV6, I'm glad I bought it.
I believe auto dealers are waking up to the fact that they cannot start at MSRP on a car if the individual has emailed 15 dealers in his area and has gotten a few good solid quotes. The last time I bought a car was in October 1994. What a difference since then. I visited 4 Honda dealerships and not one of them pressured me or quoted anything they could not deliver. In '94, I got all the lousy routines and sales pitches. Yes, the internet and the people using it are the ones changing the dealer practices, not the dealers.
The internet is available to the public in libraries, schools, even internet coffee houses, so people can get this info without owning a computer. Anyway that's my $.02 on the subject.
Was your initial contact with the Internet Manager at Bay Ridge Honda by e-mail/phone or did you walk into the dealership and ask for Frank. I ask because from what I've been reading in the advice section of Edmunds, it seems as though it is best to contact the Internet Manager by e-mail or phone rather than walking into a dealership and being approached by a "traditional" salesman. Just curious as to what approach I should take when I am ready to purchase(probably within 2-3 weeks).
Thanks.
$ 22,960.00, including freight.
The tax, tags, and processing fees aren't included [and I'm not yet sure what and how much a "processing fee" is.]
Does this seem in line with what others are paying for this car? Thanks.
As for shipping a car out west...it sounds complicated.
1. Emissions issues? If you're in CA, the emission standards may be stricter than what they have in MA. Don't know if a MA new Accord would automatically pass CA standards w/out some sort of upgrade.
2. Shipping...cost?
3. Dealer logistics? I needed to arrange proof of insurance prior to taking the car off the lot + fees for titling & registration. Am not sure if these would be avoided if shipping the car & whether you'd have to pay the same again (+sales tax) when registering in your state. Finance, signatures, etc....
Good luck!