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for the Immobilizer Anti Theft System? We thought we had a good deal when settling on
the invoice price, but when arriving at the finance office to settle we were charged extra for this system. We got taken in the end!
Other than that, we like the car. It drives great
and we get 27-30 mpg in city driving.
I haven't heard about your experience in Atlanta shopping around for the accord.
Let us know.
I am looking forward to purchase 03 accord dx. Right now we own 2000 accord lx 5 speed and after 3 years and 91,000 miles we did not have any problems with it. Any suggestions as to what I can expect to pay for 5 speed dx? Also Honda web site does not put dollar amount for a dealer installed a/c, why? The only feature that I would like to add to dx would be power locks, but for the difference in price between lx I can live without them. With abs, power windows, and cd player I think dx is excellent value.
Tom
I think a good deal on the DX (5-speed manual)would be no more than $15k (--that is, $14,688 plus <$312). Your max price should be no more than $500 over invoice ($15,188).
Good luck.
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/23230.htm
btw, I don't think the IMA worth the extra money... unless the government put the gas guzzler tax on accord... How could that be possible?
It will all depend on what they will offer for my 99 Jetta!
On top of that they threw in free wheel locks for us, and gave us free window etching
Out the door, after TT&L was $35.6k
managed to get the 3.9 & 4.9 percent financing for the civic/accord as well, so we decided to purchase the addon 6yr/100k mile warranty so we'll never have to worry about paying for repairs while we own the cars.
This was my first experience with a honda dealership, and I can honestly say they'll definitely have me back for repeat business. No haggling, and they were honest and up front with me and my wife.
I'm planning to purchase a new Honda Accord 2003.
My target is the I4 EX-L. I like the I4 instead of V6 b/c :
- enough power for me (I live in Bergen county -Northern New Jersey... there isn't a lot of hills here)
- little better mpg
- and less cost in service.
My friend (he has a 92 Accord) told me I should get the V6.. b/c
- It is better when AC on (which I agree)
- has traction control which is good for winter
and V6 engine will last longer than the I4...??
He explained to me that for the car to travel the same distance... each cylinder in I4 would have to do more work than each cylinder in V6... as the result.. the rpm in V6 is lower than I4 to run at the same speed... Sounds logical...??
Is it worth to pay about $5000 extra (
$2000 in price,
$120 extra for insurance per year,
$100 extra for service per year,
$100 extra for gas)
to own the V6 for 10 years ??
Any advice will be appreciated..
Thanks for your advice,
-Howard
That said, both the I4 or V6 will easily last 10+ yrs, so the wear and tear on the engine is moot. Your resale value after 10 years may be more dependent on whether you have taken good care of the engine, as opposed to what engine it is. Also, there is no guarantee of an endless supply of cheap oil (which will affect operating cost and resale value if high gas mileage is a selling point 10 yrs from now).
Since we can hardly predict the future on these matters, the only factor under your control is to select the car with the features you want that is within your budget.
and asked why I should pay an additional $399 for an Immobilizer Anti Theft System when it already exists on this car. The answer
I received was: we installed an additional system called KARR SECURITY SYSTEMS which is a keyless entry alarm upgrade module, Model KARR 4040. It is a chip im-bedded in the key which disables the starter and provides audible alarm when glass is broken, among other things. With it no car theft should occur, short of hauling your car
away. Has anyone been sold this KARR system in addition to what exists on the LX
sedan?
The engine load of the accessories is another story, though, but my I4 2.4L has no problem turning the a/c compressor.
Why not get a handshaker? I like 5mt's they make a measly 4 cyl really move. If you get the AT, I would go for the V6, though... the I4 had no power, IMHO with the AT, but worked perfectly fine with the 5MT(and it saves you money in maintenance)
As for the mileage, I have a buddy w/ a 3.2TL-S, and he drives about the same distances I do, I currently get about 25MPG(2nd tank) and he has almost always gotten about 18MPG. Thats almost 50% better MPG! On a tank of gas thats about another 80miles or so(the gas light goes off w/ 4.5gal left in the tank).
Buy what makes you happy, afterall, you will have it for 10 years.
Could you please tell me the name of the dealer who sold or quotes you accord below or at the invoice?
So far the best quote I've got for EX V6 sedan was 500 over invoice (through costco auto program), other dealer's quotes are about 700-900 over invoice.
Thanks!
Igor
Below are the true invoice prices:
Accord DX
Manual - Retail $15,800 | Invoice $14,228.42
Automatic - Retail $16,600 | Invoice $14,947.32
Accord LX
Manual - Retail $19,200 | Invoice $17,283.77
Automatic - Retail $20,000 | Invoice $18,002.68
Accord LX S-SRS
Manual - Retail $19,450 | Invoice $17,508.43
Automatic - Retail $20,250 | Invoice $18,227.34
Accord EX
Manual - Retail $21,600 | Invoice $19,440.49
Automatic - Retail $22,400 | Invoice $20,159.40
Accord EX-L
Manual - Retail $22,900 | Invoice $20,608.72
Automatic - Retail $23,700 | Invoice $21,327.63
Accord EX-L NAVI (Available Nov 02)
Manual - Retail $24,900 | Invoice $22,405.99
Automatic - Retail $25,700 | Invoice $23,124.89
Accord LXV-6
Automatic - Retail $23,000 | Invoice $20,698.58
Accord EXV-6
Automatic - Retail $25,800 | Invoice $23,214.76
Accord EXV-6 NAVI (Available Nov 02)
Automatic - Retail $27,800 | Invoice $25,012.03
Destination and Handling add $460 | Effective Date: 09.05.02
With interest rates lower right now I don't know whether to go ahead and pay off Dodge and trade for Honda now or keep my cash and finish paying off Dodge and wait till Spring 2003 to buy Honda.
Anyone have enough experience with car manufacturers and dealers to guess whether I can get good enough price now on Honda or don't have anything to lose by waiting till spring?
Hellllllppp!!...dumb about car buying.
I'm looking to get a O3 EX-V6 NAVI and might try using my Costco connection, where were you quoted 500 over invoice. That's not a great price, but if I can get it in my area it might be worth the money not spent traveling for a car, besides that the dealer process should be pretty painless using Costco I'd think. Let me know the area, and if that was 500 over invioce, with the 460 destination fee on top, or included in the 500 over invoice. Thanks!
BTW, That does not even include the inflated prices they gave me for the accessories. Most were significantly over the installed retail on Honda's website. With Mp3, wing spoiler, splash guards and mats, and after taxes, etc. it was just shy of $30k. Too much for an Accord.
Please advise as what shud I do and HOW MUCH should I offer?
Below are the features.
Color : Silver
Engine : 4 Cylinder
Transmission: auto
Drive Train : 2WD
4cylinder
ABS,A/C,AM/FM, Cassette Radio, Cruise, Driver side airbag, Moon Roof, Power locks, Power Seats, Power Steering, Power Windows, New Front Tires.
Bobby
Thanks ... Bobby
I don’t know what the deal is here in Austin, Texas, but it’s almost impossible purchase a new 03 Honda Accord over few hundred of dollars over invoice. I called around and just about all Honda dealers in Austin wanted few hundred dollars below MSRP. Now this was back in last week of October. I ended up driving to San Antonio to buy one.
I didn’t get the best deal, but make a long story short, paid $24,700 for 03 Honda Accord EX V6 Silver. The car came with a matching spoiler attached and sunroof visor.
At that time they had another car without the spoiler and sunroof visor for $24,500.
What did I really pay?
24,700 + Title Fee + Inspection Fee + Inventory Tax + State Tax + License Fee + Documentary Fee = $26,449.60. I also purchased 10/100,000 warranty for $995.00.
I didn’t think I needed one, but I planned on keeping it for over 3 years hopefully it will be worth it. That I will have to wait and see. Is $995 too much for extended warranty? The finance guy said it covers everything except for window wiper blades.
Don’t laugh I know (also purchased Life Insurance $449.43). I didn’t realize this at first until I got home and read all the paper (made dumb mistake.. read all of your documents while at the dealership). Also received leather treatment and 1-year car wash.
WHAT?
At first I had gotten financed thru Dealer’s recommended credit union at 5.50 % for 60 months. The next day I called the dealership and I wanted to remove Life Insurance. Finally, I was told if I keep the insurance, he would lower my APR to 4.50 %. That’s one whole percentage. I punched in these numbers into spreadsheet and after number crunching I reluctantly accepted. I feel like I could have qualified at 4.50% all along.
Lesson learned is to read all paper and double check your numbers.
Any comments welcome.
A few pricing examples:
'03 Accord EX V6 - $23,675 (MSRP $26,260)
'03 Accord EX Auto - $20,394 (MSRP $22,860)
'03 Accord LX Auto - $18,313 (MSRP $20,460)
They are pretty low pressure. Plus, no outrageous doc fees either, I believe they were under $100.
you can call costco and they will refer you to your local participating dealer: (800) 927 9263
or (800) 801-9806
the've referred me to planet honda (in Union, New Jersey)
I was told to contact Kenny Gordon (908) 964-1600
quote I got over the phone is $24175 (invoice + 500)
I don't know what they offer "regular" customers. When I went there to get a quote, sales rep said that he won't give it until I choose the specific car and "will be read to buy it" ;o))
You might try calling there, then come in and don't tell them you are using costco and see what will happen. That's what I will try when I am going to buy a car.
I've also went to Route 22 Honda
they initially offered me a quote: Invoice + 825 = $24500, then called me later and asked if I am going to buy from them, I told I got a beter quote from another dealer, they said "get your best quote and we'll beat it"... I don't know if they will, but I don't really like their approcah to negotiation, first they tried to sell the car for MSRP;o)) then said that price is 25500, then 25000... etc... however they were nice enought to let me & my wife test drive a car, for about 15 min and sit in the car for another 15 min to play around with the controls, settings etc.
But before test driving, the salesman tried to find out "what kind of monthly payment we are looking for".
I think that it might be actually possible to buy a the the invoice price.
Good luck!
Igor
PS Let me know about your buying experience
PPS I also got a quote from Madison honda(New Jersey) their sales man is funny. First he gives a quote of 24200, but then tries to add a delivery fee(460) to it... saying "no that's not a destination charge, we pay this to the truckers..." he also offered me window etching and some other stuff... I don't recommend going to this one, too many tricks...
Anyone out there got, or been quoted a good NAVI price? Near invoice? Hey, I can dream can't I. If I find one I'll pass it along (I've only begun to look)... I love how supportive everyone is in here!
- $460 destination price was already included
- the quote was for accord EX V6 4dr without navigation
also, as edmunds.com and other websites/books recommend:
"don't buy accessories from the dealer, try to buy aftermarket accessories"
may be you can make a better deal buying car without navigation and then shopping around for the navigation system separately.(especially if dealer won't give you good deal on the navigation model)
And you'll have more choice, that's for sure.
BTW, the sooner you get your car, the sooner you can enjoy it, unless you are holding out for a couple hundred dollars. 6 months is a long time to wait for $200 or driving a kick [non-permissible content removed] car now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're not asking the next grocer to open their books for you, you're just asking if their price is less than the other person's. I agree with you that no one should be insulted if they can't get the price they want, they can always look for another store.
Unfortunately cars don't seem to be priced the way you can price milk - where you can go to the store and know what everyone is paying for the product. If they were, there would be no need for a discussion board called "How much did you pay" in the first place.
Toyota's trying something new in Canada with no-haggle pricing - what's your take on that? http://access.toyota.ca
Call the Costco number listed earlier on this board and make sure you go to a participating dealer, then ask them to show you, not just tell you, the "costo invoice". This is a special document ( I understand it has a Costo logo on it) that spells out the special price. Hope this helps.