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i am planning to purchase 2003 EX V6 Coupe with Navigation on Monday.
they are quoting 27,446....TMV is 27,120
is florida that much more expensive?
They've probably had that one for a couple months and want to rotate it out before it has too many miles. Use your own judgement... do you think they let people flog the car on a test drive? Do you normally break a new car in or do you just start driving it like normal?
Did you ask the dealer? If someone took it home and couldn't afford it, then I don't believe they can legally sell it new. They could be using it for test drives, or they could have let someone have it overnight for an extended test drive.
The salesmen there was horrible. I emailed him a question a week earlier. So when i told him my name the first thing he does is through a mock punch at me implying that i'm some sort of idiot. All throughout our conversation he kept beliddling everything i said. he basically treated my like a was a moron and was overall the worst salesmen i have ever met.
Don't ever go there. Honda is getting an email about how bad the service was there for sure.
Edmumds TMV for '03 Accord EX AT is ~$22,100. Virtually all 7+ dealers I spoke to were offering it around ~$20,100 (almost 2k lower than TMV) and I got it even lower than that (19,400).
Does TMV include sales tax? If it does not, than I do NOT believe one should use that as a reference to negotiate a deal. You would end up overpaying.
Thoughts?
They are playing a ticky tack game with you! Refuse to pay $100!!!!!!
Please see post # 1571 & 1576 from me for more details.
Where did you get the car at? Salesman name?
Thanks
This price includes the destination fee, but of course not taxes and title etc. They do not charge any other service fees.
I am currently being quoted below invoice....over the phone...
Wanted to know if there's a catch, when u go to the dealer's shop.
Also of someone refers, he/she gets I think $50 from the dealer..thats an easy 50 bucks for replying...
My target price is $21,000. Is this unreasonable? I see EX-Ls going cheaper here on the forum, but I assume they are sedans?
Also, Im doing a lease. I need it written for 20k a year, vs. the typical 15k. I had a rough estimate written, at MSRP of 23,855 and this is what I got:
$995 down
$455 36mo
$392 48mo
What do you guys think of these prices? I really do not know lease terms well...so I need to learn more before I play hardball with the sales guy.
Thanks in advance!
Buy the car with your $1,000 down, therefore financing $20,000 (assuming you can buy it for 21k). With a 5 year loan, at 4.9% interest, your payments will be $376 per month. At the end of 3 years, the balance on the loan will be $8,590, or $4,400 at the end of 4 years.
At either of those points, the trade in value will surely be higher than what you owe on the car. Plus, if you really like the car, you're not forced into another vehicle at the end of the lease. Likewise, if you're not happy with it, you can get rid of it without having to pay any early lease termination fees.
If you look at trade in values right now, for a 2000 Accord EX coupe with leather and 60k miles, it's $10,357. This is likely what your '03 Accord would be worth in three years. Subtract the $8,590 balance on your loan, and you have spent a total of $12,769 for your car over 3 years. Compare that to $17,380 for the lease payments and down payment over three years. This means it's $4,611 cheaper to buy, than lease.
In addition, with a lease, your up front costs are high. You have to come up with 1) Down payment, 2) First months payment, 3) Security deposit and 4) Acquisition fee. The last 3 items are not required for a loan.
They are offering 17,488 for LX AT and 19,388 for EX AT. Pricing available on limited models/colors obviously.
All I can suggest is to get any offer in writing along with VIN numbers b4 going down to dealership.
We were going to lease at first because the Honda lease deals were better than their financing rates but once they came out with 3.49% there was no reason to lease the car. Especially since we tend to take alot of road trips. This way we can put as many miles as we want on it and even add pink stripes if we choose. It's also alot harder to get out of a car you are leasing if your circumstances were to change and you need a different vehicle.
http://www.tcalc.com/tvwww.dll?CalcLease?Cstm=customcalculator&am- p;am- p;am- p;IsAdv=0&AdvPmnt=1
It is a true lease calculator. Get the best price they will sell you the car for, then the residual and the interest rate and plug them in. You can leave any field blank and it will calculate it.
Most leases are funny money all double talk but doing the math doesn't lie. You can also get a good indication of the price you can get by using carsdirect.com and configuring your model its a good place to start.
If you are going to do a true sign and drive remember to roll the tax back into the car price.
I figured out there was probably another 12.00 in my lease price but I went with a dealer with the better service reputation.
Good luck
LOVE THE CAR
mike2741 - $22.8 + tax is too high to me. I got EXL-V6 for $23.55 (invoice $23.675) + tax about 3 weeks ago. I guess you bought your car last year and they don't have many in stock.
If you can get invoice, that's ok but it's better if below invoice.
Current price quote in Boston Area is 21,500 plus T& L. Is that good. Do you think I could do better?
WE GOT THIS QUOTE FROM MORE THAN 1 DEALER OVER THE INTERNET WITH VERY LITTLE HAGGLING. BTINC2, YOUR QUOTE OF 21,500 IS TO HIGH KEEP SHOPPING, ITS A BUYER'S MARKET.
After originally considering a $35K ES300, for which a good deal is considered to be half-way between invoice and sticker, getting a car below invoice seems too good to be true.
I'm going to buy a Taffeta White EX-L sedan with 4-cylinder engine. The list and invoice prices are $24,310 and $21,922 including transportation but not T&L. I've just started shopping but the lowest price so far is $22,160. Has anyone gotten a significantly better deal than this and if so what dealer/salesman did you do business with.
As an aside, I often see people refer to "EX-AT." What does AT stand for?
Thanks for the help.
Bob
Particularly interesting is the "4-box" negotiation tool of dealers showing no-fail Dollar numbers that maximize their profit. If you remember how your previous car negotiations went, you'll realize why car dealers seem to be in full control regardless.
Here's the link:
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html?- tid=edmunds.a.landing.buying..4.*
Walk away if you don't get at least $500.
I think $1000 off is achievable & fair.
Some guys have gotten $1200 to $1300 off MSRP.
There is about $2000 margin over dealer cost in MSRP on the Accords.
I had one salesguy give me some BS that EX-V6 Accords are going for $US35,000 because they are in such high demand in the USA. A load of bull if you read you believe that many posters here are getting that car for $US24,000+change.