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Mazda6 Sedan

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  • meesrmeesr Posts: 20
    Big Shindig in Irvine, CA where Mazda R&D is.

    They are there for the 6. Anyone give us inside info?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I agree, the hatch is the most stylish.

    -juice
  • mkcomkco Posts: 65
    And LOVED it!!! This could easily be my next car. Definitely the best-looking in its segment. Nice interior. H U G E improvement over present 626!!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The current 626 was basically designed for the 1993 model year, and intro'd way back in 1992. A mild update didn't do nearly enough, IMO. It's about time.

    -juice
  • Was it the sedan or the hatchback that you really liked?

    The red-orange metallic hatch was awesome, the blue sedan was nice but not particularly special.

    Still waiting to see the wagon. Anyone think it might be at the Chicago show?
  • meesrmeesr Posts: 20
    ANYONE??
  • mkcomkco Posts: 65
    Actually, it was the blue sedan that I really liked! That's just my personal taste...I like the looks of cars with real, defined trunks, not "humpbacks" (although I was impressed with the hatch as well).

    Though it's not revolutionary, the sedan has a nice wedge shape that is just dressed up enough by the taillights and wheels to look sporty. (The fronr end's nice too.) But what really gets me excited about the 6 is that I can get a 220 hp 6 with a stick in an affordable car that by all accounts will be really fun to drive, yet practical. I also though the interior was comfortable and attractive.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    The sedan will be the only north american version for 8-10 months. Mazda isnt sure if the wagon or the h/b will be next. Expect one of them 8-10 months after the sedan launch.

    Also here is a big insider secret....an all wheel drive version is being pushed hard by the head North American Operations mazda 6 designer...The mazda dealers from Canada and northeast US are pushing hard for it also. No promises yet though but its not out of the question. If it happens expect it 18-24 months after the initial launch.

    Rich
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That would be sweet, an AWD version would really put the 219hp down effectively.

    Do you know if the FWD version will offer a limited-slip differential?

    Too bad we may have to wait for the more interesting body styles.

    -juice
  • audia8q: You sound like you really know, but this is disappointing news to a lot of us. We're talking about a sedan in about half a year, maybe longer? And then the better part of a year before the hatch or wagon? That probably kills the 6 for me.

    Great about the AWD possibility, but the teasing photos of 6 hatches and wagons begins to feel like the old vaporware computer software releases.

    steve
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    They tell us September for the sedan.
    I wish we could get them all right away!!! but this is the most important car that Mazda has ever released. They have banked everything on the Mazda 6..it defines everything about the company and their future plans. If it fails it will be a huge disaster for Mazda and Ford. This is why they are being very cautious about the launch...They are checking and rechecking everything they can to get it 100% right out of the wrapper.

    Rich
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Q: I've heard different sources say the Protoge is the best seller, while others say the 626 is. Which is true?

    I agree that the 6 is a keystone for Mazda.

    -juice
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    At one time the 626 was the mainstay. However, as the platform aged and marketing support was cut back, the Protege Sedan became the new king. Add the sales of the P5 to that and it's Mazda's backbone.
  • audia8q: We all want them to get it right the first time. Who needs a repeat of the Tribute release? I'm personally disappointed, but I sure want Mazda to be healthy and this car is critical. Hard to say, but I'd guess the 6 means even more to Mazda than the new Altima to Nissan.

    Major story on the auto business last night on the Lehrer report. Experts predicting a significant dropoff in the number of makers in the next few years. I don't want Mazda to be among those no longer around.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Good points.

    Tribute launch was bumpy but I think Ford had more to do with it than the 6 because the Escape is produced in far greater volumes than the Tribute.

    -juice
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Yes the Protege is the volume unit for Mazda and it is profitable. unlike small cars for the domestics. But from a long term bottom line and image perspective the 6 is the key...

    yes, I believe the 6 is more important to mazda than the altima to Nissan...Mazda was a terrible franchise to have a few years back but they have been on a great product roll that has really made a huge difference. Nissan has been a good franchise, from a dealers standpoint, for many many years even though the nissan corp was doing poorly financially.

    Rich
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Interesting to hear the dealer's perspective.

    -juice
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    The freshened Protoge is selling real well, so the '6' is a logical step up, I am betting that it will do well and can't wait to see them.
    One report said early 2003, but Septemeber '02 is much better!

    I just don't want to see Honda and Toyota with duopoly on the car market!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Rich: any chance the warranty will get longer?

    Mazda used to have the edge with a 3/50 vs. the industry standard 3/36, but now Toyota, Nissan, and Subaru all offer 5/60.

    I know, I'm cheap, but just figured I'd ask.

    -juice
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    I'm glad the new altima and the japanese buick, I mean the Camry came out already....All the ballyhoo about nothing would have clouded the Mazda 6 entry....With Mazda holding back the entry they get the stage to themselves.

    Zoom~Zoom

    Rich
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hmm, I'd call the Avalon the Japanese Buick, because it offers a front bench seat. I think it's the only Asian car that does.

    -juice
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    When does the new Honda Accord come out? That might be around the same time as the 6 intro, which could potentially steal the thunder from Mazda.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Both this fall. But if Honda goes conservative, and Mazda goes all out, it might be the other way around.

    -juice
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    "Both this fall. But if Honda goes conservative, and Mazda goes all out, it might be the other way around." -juice

    Good point. Imagine Mazda stealing thunder from Honda, on the much heralded Accord no less.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, think about it. Honda always had more power from their V6. It was 170 to 165 (then 160), and later 200 to 170.

    What if the Accord keeps its 200hp rating, and then the Mazda has a 19hp edge? With better handling to boot?

    Zoom zoom indeed.

    -juice
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I would LOVE to see Honda get their snobby "we are better at everything" butts kicked by Mazda! :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's working for Nissan. The Altima is selling at a brisk pace.

    -juice
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    With the 6 and a new Accord, the Mitsu Galant sure is going to look old in the fall!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I liked the 3.5SE Altima I sat in back in October alot. But the price was almost $30,000. I guess I have trouble paying that much for a Nissan that's not a Maxima. :)
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Some have suggested that Honda will answer Nissan's Altima by increasing the Accord's power. Power isn't everything, though. If Mazda achieves the balance of handling, breaking, and power for which they claim to be striving, they could still overshadow a more powerful Accord. We shall see. I hope so. Mazda needs this one to sell well.
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