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• Despite the millions of $$ spent by Chevy, Pontiac, Dodge and Ford in NASCAR, their road-going versions of their racers are barely holding market share in terms of sales.
• The reasons for this are: 1) The race cars bear little or no resemblance to the production street cars, and 2) NASCAR is more about the drivers, than the cars.
On the other hand, rallying, which uses street legal cars, proves the adage is still true.
• Subaru's (USA sales), because of its success in the SCCA Pro Rally series, are twice as strong as expected, with 10% of Subaru sales being the WRX.
• In Europe, where the Peugeot 206 is leading the World Rally Championship, the Peugeot 206 has just become Europe's best selling car, unseating the VW Golf (which is not rallied by the factory)!
The article concludes by suggesting that NASCAR go back to its roots, and again race cars that are closer to being stock.
I've been saying that for years...
Bob
I bet if you took a survey of WRX owners about 10% of them would even know what a rally was and/or followed it. You could bump that up to 30%-40% of WRX owners who would respond "I've heard of it but don't know or care what it is"
Don't forget the I-club and "car-oriented" sites are a skewed group to pull feedback on how well rallying effects sales or owners.
-mike
Bob
..Mike
..Mike
Hope I'm not too late responding. My in-laws recommend the Marriott Long Wharf or Boston Harbor Hotel. Both are on Boston harbor, near the aquarium, and expensive (like many big cities). My brother-in-law is also a good resource; I'll ask him. What are your wife's interests?
..Mike
..Mike
-mike
NASCAR even ran on the beach at Daytona in the early days. Now that'd be a sight, wouldn't it?
Ed
That argument can't be applied in Europe however, where the Peugeot 206 has just taken over the sales lead. I know it's a different audience and all, but still...
Bob
Bob
-mike
It seems funny (or a shame) that all they can garner from this is just maintaining market share. You would think (hope) that their sales would go the roof, but that's not the case.
Bob
The Craftsman truck series is just silly IMO but there's no denying that it strikes a chord with someone out there.
Ed
-mike
I get tons of Ascar stuff from the people upstate NY near my place in the Adirondacks. They eat-sleep-drink (alot) Nascar!
-mike
Ed
Greg
Look at my Miata - nice and clean. Pure design. No beaks, grilles, wings, spoilers, nothing. OK, except the pop-ups, but I rarely drive it at night.
But maybe Subaru could go after Jaguar or Mercedes, or even Alfa. The pulled back headlight look is getting tired, and how far will they go? They're vertical now, in the G35 and the CTS, even the ES300.
-juice
Bob
I don't like the new Miata as much. The cats' eyes aren't appealing, nor is the hump in the trunk. You can tell it was face-lifted, not original.
Ed: That's the same year he wrote. If you had said different, I would have believed YOU.
-juice
As to hidden/pop-up lights, I just think they're a waste of money, and besides, they're just one more thing to break. How do you (quickly) flash an on-coming car, if you need to? I had them on my old '88 Accord, and hated them.
Bob
..Mike
..Mike
I will be on vacation starting Friday->July 14 and I have Speed on my Sat dish upstate NY. I'll be watching tons of SPEED
-mike
-mike
Cheese wedge, LOL!
Saw an S2000 on the road today. I like the rear view, but not the front. It looks like a cheese wedge carved out on the sides.
I'd take one, though, for the drive. ;-)
-juice
That may work *if* you have fogs. My '88 Accord didn't have fogs. If I wanted to flash a car with my high beams (and the lights were off), I would have to hit a button on the dash to raise the headlights, which took a second or two, then hit my high beam switch.
Needless to say, it was worthless to even try...
Bob
-mike
Here's an example:
To find every message posted by rsholland, click on "Search" at the Subaru Crew top folder level. Or use the one in the sidebar, but it will initially return nothing found. Enter "rsholland" as the keyword. You can do either of the following:
Search for discussion body text in all Boards.
Search for discussions in Owners Clubs
*If you use the sidebar search while you are IN a discussion, you will also get an option to search that discussion alone.*
You will notice that on the list of discussions that rsholland has contributed, there are direct links to the posts!
KarenS
Host
Owners Clubs
<< Search for discussions in Owners Clubs. >>
Also, it only went back a month or so. What if I wanted to find something posted a couple of years ago? How do I do that?
Bob
-Brian
If you launch the search from "SUVs" it will only allow you to search "SUV" posts.
It also seems limited by memory. Some searches only go back a month or so, if you've posted heavily in that area; whereas other searches may go back several months, if you haven't posted much in that area.
Still, even with the bugs, it's a very useful new feature!
Bob
Bob
http://www.media.subaru.com./
-juice
-Dave
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.
Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.
Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.
They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr, noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.
Remember: freedom is never free!
It's time we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball games.
I received this last year (obviously pre 9/11). Sorry for the long post.
Jim
Interesting post.
-juice
The G35 is nice, but honestly that's the interior that belongs on the Altima. Infinitis should be much nicer. They're not even close to Lexus.
My educated guess is that reliability will drop for Nissan, and significantly. I'm talking about squeeks, rattles, Bose stereos that cut out when they get hot, etc.
-juice
Got Neon as a rental (they ran out of Soobs). Horrible car! Can Dodge fall any lower? Talk about non-linear pedals, rough idle, poor handling, poor brakes. Yikes.
Cannot wait to get Silvius back. He just turned 2 years on July 1 and already has 45K miles on it, poor baby.
Sandy will turn 4 on 8/8, does the 6CD changer count as an early b-day present?
-juice
But that said on paper I disagree with the new Z. I think it's too heavy and not the performance / dollar spent bargain the trade rags are claiming it to be... The WRX is a bargain, no doubt. $28k for a 3300lb Z with no LSD? Not a bargain. $31k for a "track edition" Z? Not a bargain.
Maybe I'll shut up after I drive one. I figure around October I should be able to get a test drive if I show up with my bimmer polished and the salesman hoping he can score...
-Colin
like others they tout the bargain... we'll see.
-Colin
From the rear it looks like a Buick Regal, with those tailights!
Bob
http://www.vtec.net/news/
Ed
Just thought I pass this along.
B.A.R.C. [Brooklyn Animal Resource Coalition] http://www.barcshelter.org/
they are just a block from where I live.
Volunteers are welcomed - walk the dogs... etc.
-Dave