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There are deals out there. Even one dealership - JBA Infiniti in Ellicot City, MD - has internet specials w/$8k off MSRP, until the end of August. Those are amazing deals and you don't even have to negotiate. You can ask your local dealership to match their price!
West - RWD - 24
West - AWD - 18
East - RWD - 27
East - AWD - 58
So, that is only 42 in the Western US and 85 in the Eastern US for a grand total of 127! There are about 185 Infiniti dealerships left in the US. So, that is less than 1 per dealer and that is not even getting into equipment or interior colors - so - I would give you the impression that supply is running out - you may see it differently, but those are the facts.
As for Cash for Clunkers, only the FX35 is eligible under the current rules of the program and those vehicles are really hard to find in any color. If the G37 was eligible - I promise there would be only scrapes to choose from by this time! :P
Sewell -- thank you very much for the informative answers. Not to be too nosy, but why is Red being discontinued? I thought it was a popular color. And who really wants to ride around in another generic-looking silver sedan
Anyhow, I've already resigned myself that if no Reds are available by the time I'm in a position to make the final decision, I'll go with Blue Slate. I'm told it's also very good looking and I can get it with wood trim.
Just a quick update - finally pulled the trigger on a G37 6MT Sedan, Premium, Nav, Splash, Trunk Mat for $34,225 + ttl. Should pick it up by the end of next week.
Appreciate all of the insight I got from this and other boards - I've been debating between the 328 and the G37 for months and in the end the Infiniti won out with its bigger engine and the value for all the extras you get (not to mention the reliability record).
All the best...
frankly, I think people could get even more savings if they aren't too picky about color or options. with the new and improved 2010 models on the horizon, im sure dealers are going to be flexible with the pricing.
I thought there was only a $2,500 cash back if you did not take the special financing. Are there more incentives or secret cash that I'm missing? If so, this could make my choice much easier. Appreciate any feedback or enlightenment.
2005 G35 Sedan2007 G35 Sedan
2008 G37 Sedan
2010 G37 Coupe
2012 G37 Sedan
2014 Q50 RWD
2017 Q60 3.0t RWD
2018 QX60 RWD
Just got confirmation that the last shipment is on it's way and if I wanted my color and option choices, I would have to order a 2010. They'll probably expect me to pay close to MSRP also. At which point, I'll take a closer look at other options. I'm thinking it may not be a bad idea to wait a few months for the C4C dust to settle. I think sales will really nosedive and manufacturers will have to offer better incentives.
State or federal?
Found news release on IRS site, here is the link: http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=205863,00.html
It's a deduction not a credit.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/infiniti-preparing-to-launch-direct-injection-37l-v6- .html
I am waiting for this new engine before I purchase. It would be great if this new engine would run on non premium gas.
...I think it's possible but I doubt they will change the engine on the 2010 G after 5 months on the market, 2010 will on sale in Jan. I think they might put it on the 2011 or 2012 models.
For comparison's sake, I'm in Texas and I'm either going to pay cash or finance some of it with 0% financing. Your advice would be welcomed! Thanks!
This will be interesting.
That car should have a MSRP around $43,200. Dealer should discount it around $2300 to get you down to about $40,900 - then you have a choice of 0% or the dealer gets dealer cash of $2500 they can give to you which would take you down to the $38,400 (total saving of $4800 off MSRP). If you around Dallas, feel free to call to discuss.
How can you get 0% financing and get the additional $2500 back from the dealer?
Isn't it either or, and not both?
I.m not going to finance for six years, as they mention.
Here is the email
2009 Infiniti G37 Sedan with Premium,Navigation
328-Hp 3.7 Liter V6 7-Speed Automatic Transmission
Stock#GC9006 as requested DEMO approx: 5,900 miles
MSRP: $39,725.
Demo Discount: $6,505.
Selling Price: $33,220.
(includes all incentives)
Cash Buyers Purchase Price: $36,144
Based on 7% sales tax and all fee's included
OR
72 months $606. per month -0- Down
Based on 7% sales tax and all fee's included
If they were selling them at $29.9 - I would buy every single one and ship them down here to sell.
The 29.9 that was mentioned before had to be without Navigation, may not even been Premium Pkg.
In Dallas, we draw the line at $1700 below invoice. After that - it is just not worth it to us to sell the car (overhead, paying salesperson, etc). Plus, there are plenty of customers who will pay that amount.
Think about this. For years dealers have been selling autos for invoice plus $100 to $200 under all kinds of different programs without any manufacturer to dealer money. That was in non-recession, great car sales years. Now all of a sudden in the worst recession and car sales in 50 years and you can't buy for invoice minus dealer cash??? I don't buy it for a minute and neither should any of you. I bought a new(not demo) Infiniti QX4 in 2002 for about $6500 under MSRP which was probably $4000 under invoice at the time and I don't believe the dealer even had close to $2500 dealer cash to play with. Also they gave me $1500 more for a 1996 Maxima than a Nissan dealer wanted to give us to trade towards a Pathfinder so the trade wasn't lowballed at all(I knew what it was worth). Gee, that dealer is still in business....maybe he doesn't pay his salepeople anything.
Please, I mean no disrespect but people need to consider all the angles.
For the most part, everyone on here are getting great deals. So far this month we've sold 33 G37 sedans - our average purchase price is $1373 below invoice. Keep in mind that is an average, some paid less - like you guys on this forum - and some paid more. Some G's may have been Premium only - some loaded - some demos - but that is our current average right now. Remember, you guys are the minority and if a dealer like myself can sell the G at these prices, you have to ask why would we sell one for much less?
I'm not sure what was going on in 2002, but I assure you the dealer makes some money on the car deal or they don't do it. Sure - there are special times, maybe a demo or they need to sell a vehicle to hit a bonus or something but for the most part no one (car dealer, furniture, hamburgers, etc) are going to buy a product wholesale then turn around and sell it to the public for less than what they just paid. BTW, I think over 1000 dealerships will be closing their doors around the US in 2009 - most of them domestic, but they are still going out of business none the less.
For the most part 98% of you are not even in my market - I'm just giving you straight advice - it is up to you if you take it or not. In my opinion the G37 sedan is worth MSRP - it is a great car!!
And I think some dealers get rid of cars to prevent losses. When a car sits on a lot after a certain period of time, dealerships start to lose money on it every day. This was especially acute in 2008 at the beginning of the recession, when there were huge lots of cars collecting dust and interest.....
Now I'm not paranoid and I don't think m6user is either, but we got to spell out the motives here. I appreciate your insider's view, but I also remain skeptical. Nothing personal.
And yes, we lose about $7 per day from Day 1 on every car, so it cost us money to stock cars and we try to sell them as quickly as possible. But, I'm not going to sell a car for nothing to you when I can wait a couple of days and sell it to your neighbor and make money. Since we are selling less cars this year compared to last we are stocking less cars to save on interest.
My motive is to inform folks around the country what is going on with Infiniti. All my post encourage people to go ahead and buy if I think they are getting a fair deal, unfortunately without seeing their trade and knowing the financing package they got put together I can only comment on their price - and the prices I see people getting are fantastic. Better than I would do for most.
PS I'm not offended - I've been selling cars for 13 years - I've heard worse!
I'm getting quotes from Texas dealers right now (since my hometown dealer rarely wins on price...) and I'm having trouble getting an email response from Sewell in Dallas
It's a dealer in NJ. You close to there?
I'm thinking somewhere between $1500 to $2000 below invoice. The dealer is still going to make some money. Remember, the trade-in, financing package, and service need to be in the equation too.
In Dallas, we draw the line at $1700 below invoice. After that - it is just not worth it to us to sell the car (overhead, paying salesperson, etc). Plus, there are plenty of customers who will pay that amount.
Some dealers add fees after the negotiated price, are you talking about 1700 below invoice net of fees or the fees are additional? Which increase the dealers profit.
My point in all this is that dealers move the iron any way they can. New cars are so competitive and so much info can be gleened from the internet that the customer has a fighting chance at a good deal as they know approximately what the dealer paid for the vehicle. That is not the case in used car sales where the "invoice" is not known and that is where some real money can be made. So to say a dealer won't sell at a loss ever is not accurate as they are doing it every day. I bought a new Mazda6 in 2007 (no trade, no finance) and paid over $5000 under MSRP which was about $3200 or so under invoice. There was a $1500 rebate at the time but I don't know if there was any dealer cash or quota bonuses involved. But I certainly think it was difficult to make any money on that deal.
The person that has a trade and is using dealer financing is at a very big disadvantage in the negotiation. Arrange your financing ahead of time at a credit union or your bank. Work your deal on the new car and the new car only. When you have a solid price on the new car then and only then talk trade. You may not get top dollar for your trade but you will at least know how much you are getting for it. If you already have your financing arranged the dealer can either beat it or not but they are not in the position to get you on the new car price or the trade in price by holding out the financing like a carrot on a stick.
Good luck and sewellgsm I really do think you generally are trying to give accurate info but I can certainly understand your position when advising on price. It would be difficult to tell everyone in the Dallas area just how much they can get off a new car. If you really just wanted to give a dealer's perspective and advice maybe you could have came in here incognito.
P.S. This G is insanely fast. The slip light came on from a 40 mph punch. Makes your heart skip a beat!
Problem is that most posters don't put in enough detail to know if the "out the door" price is really XXXX invoice, or if they paid dealer handling, doc fees, on top. Plus, they don't say whether they had a trade in that may have influenced the new car price. (At least this is the pushback I have gotten from dealers in the past using this strategy)
"I can get you into the premium + sport auto trans. 2009 G37 Sedan for $34,588 + fees. "
HIS SECOND OFFER: "$33941 before fees."
. "At $33,941, total with tax and dmv fees it comes to $37,441.77 for the G37 sedan with premium and sport packages."
"my boss said to go ahead and for the last day of the month, he'll do $37,000 otd 4-30-09"
I agree that dealers make more money on used cars but I doubt they can make 4K on a 6K car. This is rather an extreme case.