Infiniti G37 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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guitargman

Seems to be a very good deal. Could you please provide the dealer name in NJ. I am looking forward to get a quote from them.

Thanks.

hookshot35

I said it this way because this was a "cash" purchase, no trade. I sold my old car for 2k more than CarMax offered in less than 24 hours!

All prices should not mention tax and title since it varies so much from state to state. Tennessee is 7% for example. But yes, my sticker was $37,275 and the Cash price was $30,675. All dealers in this area have a doc fee of $499 to $599. Everything but tax is in that price.

Again, thanks to this forum and the great prices I saw, I went ahead and started getting quotes. Just couldn't say no these prices.

m6user

I said they probably sold it for $10k for a $4k profit. I have no idea what they actually sold it for. The car was absolutely like new and I felt sick when I heard what my friend got for it. It prompted me to look at the dealerships website and I was shocked to see the price they were asking. He could have sold private party for $9 or 10K pretty easy. So yes, you're right, it was a pretty extreme case.

mannix77

Congrats! Good to hear your experience. Post a Picture if you can. How much was the Doc Fee?

ethandane

Guitargman: Can you tell us the dealership in NJ, i live in nj and looking to pull the trigger this week?

kpr1969

I'm got the following quote got a base G37 sedan w/o options from a suburban Chicago dealer, which includes the $2500 cash:
$28977 + applicable fees

Is this a good price? It seems like a good price,although I seem to see a lot of better deals on the AWD's, but don't know if they include the 2500 cash.

Thanks.

mannix77

The invoice is $30,727 on the base. Which, in your case is 1750 below invoice. Add the 2500 from Infiniti and you are at 750 above invoice. What are other dealers offering? You should call and this will tell you if you are getting a reasonable deal for your market.

You should put things in relation to the invoice, it helps in the decision making.

Also, the 2500 applies to the AWD as well.

guitargman

Sure, Infiniti of Englewood. Great guys and very competitive. I'm picking my G37x Platinum graphite,nav,prem,splash and rosewood tomorrow night i HOPE.
Look at my review of that dealer.

sewellgsm

mannix77 - our doc fee is $50, we have no dealer prep fee. I'm getting the feeling when other dealers around the country are selling cars at "invoice" - they have a $599 doc fee or prep fee which means we are all selling them about the same.

If anyone is seriously getting to buy any new Infiniti more than $2500 below invoice, please let me know. We are very short supplied down here in Texas and I will buy the rest of their inventory after you get the one you want. Thanks.

members78

sewell, you should purchase from JBA Infiniti because they are selling their g37 AWD for $3500 below invoice and their G37 coupe for $4,200 below invoice. That doesn't include their freight and $100 processing fee. You can check that on their website.

sewellgsm

What do you mean by "their freight"? :confuse:

mannix77

Sewell,

thx for the info.

ncognito13

What does $4,200 below invoice translate into the final price of the car. I am interested in the G37x coupe w/ the premium package....Any OTD price would be appreciated..I am in Albany, NY....Looking to buy...not to lease....

mannix77

The one mentioned and also seen on the website, is $31,500 for an G37x Sedan with splasg guards and cargo net. I also assume freight adds another $865 to this plus $100 processing and then your tax tag and title fees.

The following is directly from the website regarding the Coupe $35,499 for 2009 G37 COUPE with premium package, navigation, illuminated kick plates, and cargo area protector:
Sale Price plus tax, tags, freight, any dealer added options and $100 processing (not required by law) Internet Price cannot be combined with any other special offers. * Sale price cannot be combined with Special A.P.R. ** Special A.P.R. available for qualified buyers through Infiniti Financial Services (Not all buyers will qualify). You must qualify for all applicable rebates to purchase at Internet price. Internet Price is valid on a retail purchase only. Not available for lease. See dealer for complete program details. This vehicle is not available for exporting. Subject to prior sale. Must present special offer at time of write up and delivery. This is an Internet Special Price Only. Price expires on 08/30/2009. Stock #ec90241

sewellgsm

I see why you guys (customers in general) get pissed at dealerships. Freight from Japan is included in the MSRP - it is also on the invoice. So, to quote a price then say plus TTL and freight - that is low. So, in the end this dealer is not as low as it first seemed since they are going to tack on freight at $865.

Wow - I'm learning a lot of good "tricks" from you guys - maybe I'll start quoting people a price without freight - of course when they get here all ready to buy their new car - they would be mad - so no, we will stick with just giving people honest, straight forward prices - seems to work so far. No $699 processing fees or $499 pinstripes or $399 valet pkgs or $865 freight! Like I've said all along - the dealer is going to make some money somewhere - if not in the items listed above, it will be in financing or the trade-in (yes there are a few exceptions like a demo or an ugly car that has sat on the lot for 9 months) but they don't run a business to lose money.

I'm sorry and embarrased many of you have to go through all the "games".

kingpcgeek

I agree with you on the freight Any time a dealer quotes a price without freight that is a sign to run, not walk away.

mannix77

You are correct. Dealers like this give a bad name to good dealers. But it's sometimes our fault. By purchasing from a dealer like this says it's ok to do what you (the bad dealer) are doing. We should simply not buy from them.

mannix77

Sewell,

Does it help the process when you do the pre-approval on the infiniti website?
Also, do you know what the tiers are for the credit scores and rates?

sewellgsm

mannix77 - Not really, it is best to find a car you like first; otherwise, you have someone pulling your credit - maybe for no reason.

Tier 0 = 730+ beacon = 5.49% for 63 months or less
Tier 1 = 690+ = 5.94%
Tier 2 = 650+ = 8.39%
Tier 3 = 620+ = 11.99%
Tier 4 = 600+ = 14.74%

Tier 0 & 1 qualify for the special rates (0% for 36, 2.9% for 60 but then you have to pay $2500 more on the price).

mannix77

Thanks for the information.

zach12

I do not believe that the freight in the JBA offer is freight from Japan (i.e. destination charges). They would charge a separate freight if you want to buy the car from them and ship it to where you live FL, for example. If the car is now in MD, you could potentially pick it up there and not pay the freight charges. Thus, I believe their freight charge is not a scam but is legit.

However, i am still a bit startled by the JBA offer, which seems to be about $4800 below invoice. Do you think there is a catch here? I spoke to the guy and the only thing i was not sure about is whether the premium package is included. he insisted that it is, but the MSRP on their web page is for a non-Premium car.

The guy wanted to close the deal before the end of the month, so could they have incentives from infiniti to hit some quota that would make them eligible for rebates from Infiniti. Could anyone confirm this?

sewellgsm

zach12 - You are right - if they were freighting it from Maryland to another state there would be additional freight charges. And yes, if it is too good to be true it usually is. I think your right about "assuming" what invoice is and if this car is a Premium Pkg. They may have a regional contest going on, but Infiniti rarely has to on the G37 sedan since it is their #1 selling car.

If you know the MSRP and the final selling price - that would help. I would bet two things here. #1 it is not $4800 below invoice, JBA can sell them to me for invoice - I'm a buyer there, they wouldn't have to lose any money - just break even. #2 - if it is their internet ad car - it is still a great deal - all dealers put their best deal on-line to get you to come in and then we hope you pick out a different vehicle. Every Retail outlet - Walmart, Target, etc does this.

mannix77

This is what it is according to the Edmunds TMV

2009 Infiniti G37
x 4dr Sedan AWD (3.7L 6cyl 7A)
TMV®
What Others
Are Paying
MSRP Invoice
National Base Price
A note about advertising fees $35,750 $33,029 $33,685
Regional Adjustment
for Zip Code Change - - $187
Optional Equipment $1,260 $1,072 $1,131
J01 Moonroof $1,000 $866 $908
B94 Splash Guards $200 $159 $172
N93 Trunk Cargo Net $60 $47 $51
Color Adjustment - - $0
Not Sure
Destination Charge $865 $865 $865
Total with Options $37,875 $34,966 $35,868

MSRP 37875 - not the premium pkg, but it does have a moon roof. So if the guy you spoke to considers the moon roof a premium pkg then it is.

zach12

I agree, mannix. That is what i suspected. In fact, i asked him specifically about the difference between a sunroof (which is in the premium) and a moonroof. I suspect that this is the non-premium package despite my continued direct questioning on the matter. It could be, as sewell, says a way to get you in and then lure you into the premium pacakge.

I got a quote from a local dealer of $36700 (before the $2500 cash rebate). It is still $400-500 above invoice (before the rebate). What do you guys think? I am not in any hurry so i can still sit for a few days.

sewellgsm

You can order a base then add a moonroof ($1000) or if you go to a premium package ($2500) that package includes a moonroof ($1000) plus $1500 worth of stuff. Looks like this vehicle is a base + moonroof. Still a good deal.

Zach12 - your quote is more like what I've been seeing - I think you will drive yourself crazy trying to find a better price - time you factor in your time and gas it is probably a wash. Buying locally has advantages such as when you need something or need a loan car or something your local dealer is much more willing to help if you bought the car from them.

sewellgsm

You can order a base then add a moonroof ($1000) or if you go to a premium package ($2500) that package includes a moonroof ($1000) plus $1500 worth of stuff. Looks like this vehicle is a base + moonroof. Still a good deal.

Zach12 - your quote is more like what I've been seeing - I think you will drive yourself crazy trying to find a better price - time you factor in your time and gas it is probably a wash. Buying locally has advantages such as when you need something or need a loan car or something your local dealer is much more willing to help if you bought the car from them.

mannix77

How many dealers do you have in the area?
Are you flexible with your choice of vehicle?

What are the chances of the price dropping further than what you got and how much? My guess is yes it will drop but not much. Unless someone needs to unload a car. No harm in waiting a few days (unless you are picky in your selection)and see if you get a drop.

Are there other fees or is it $36,700 +TTL.

zach12

1 dealer in my immediate metro area. 2 others are within a 2-hour drive. The original 36700 was from another dealer, which my local dealer matched. No other hidden fees except TTL. My guess is that i can bring them down a little more, but as sewell suggested, i have to weight it against the cost of my time and effort.

smody

Here is the offer I have on a G37 journey sedan with premium pkg.

MSRP = $37,275.00
Discount = ($6,772.13)
Selling Price = $30,502.87
Doc Fee = $599
Taxes = $915.09 (NC)
Tag/Title = $58.00

DRIVE OUT = $32,074.96

mannix77

It's essentially $1300 below invoice and then you have the $2500 off for the dealer incentive.

Is it in writing? No trade in involved?

Sales Taxes are 6.75% in NC, which equates to roughly $2060. The only explanation is that there is a trade in.

With a trade in it could distort the too good to be true question. If you think they are giving you 1800 less the trade in then you are at a fair price.

wallzilla

Sales Tax in NC is 3%.

Go To Carsdirect.com. Price one out, and make the dealership match this price. If they don't, walk.

uwnav

hey guys!
I'm looking at a G37 coupe Journey. VPP (Vehicle Purchase Program) gets me invoice - 3%.
On here it says invoice is 33,859 (no options or destination charge). But you guys are talking about a lot more $ off the invoice. So should I not lead with the VPP deal?
I'm confused! Does this $2500 discount qualify for VPP purchases aswell?

Want to know what prices I can realistically expect. Thanks!

mannix77

I stand corrected.

Then it's a great deal. trying to figure out how the dealer is doing it.

If they have a premium with Sports on a similar discount, I will take it.

smody

I don't know how they're doing it either. I just sent my deposit and reserved a platinum graphite car. If you are serious about buying and can get to atlanta I'll ask the dealer. He also gave me a quote of around 34k if i wanted nav but not interested.

kpr1969

Thanks, mannix. Unfortunately, the G37 base is pretty scarce in Chicago. Most dealers only have the G37 AWD or a Journey with one or more option packages.

mannix77

I don't know what the restrictions are on the VPP program. However, instead of placing an offer, ask the dealer what he is willing to offer and then ask some other dealers and see what they offer you. If it's better than VPP, then you are good, if not you can pull the VPP card.

Remember the prices can fluctuate from city to city. Also, the rules on the VPP may not allow the $2500 dealer incentive, you should check on this.

uwnav

thanks mannix. yeah! but there are only two freakin dealers in all of Washington state (and someone said they're by the same owner). $#(*.. I don't want to screw it up with the ONLY dealer in town :confuse:

mannix77

750 above invoice is not all that bad. Compare to other vehicles in the market, I don't see how you can go wrong. A+ in quality, A+ in reliability, and performance.

mannix77

where in atlanta?

members78

There are deals to be made at JBA. I learned about it from a G37 forum. A woman went into JBA, showed them Edmund's invoice price, and negotiated a great price. This is an exact quote from her:

"I just bought a G37x w/ premium package and navi for $34300 + TT."

That is the AWD sedan she meant to say. That is $3,400 below invoice.

Here is the url: link title

I'm not advertising for JBA, but just wanted to let the rest of you know you can negotiate a good price. After all, us consumers gotta keep it real.

mannix77

UWNAV

You may want to read this thread

http://myg37.com/forums/vpp-purchasing/189186-before-you-use-that-vpp-shop-aroun- d.html

Good luck.

sewellgsm

VPP cuts out all the hassle. You simply pick out a vehicle - you and dealer put the VIN into the system and Infiniti tells the dealer what to sell you the car for. It works out to be about $350 over invoice. No games, no hassle - all vehicles are eligible except the new convertible. And yes, after you get your price you can then take the special rates or lease it or take the $2500 - your choice.

I'd lead with it - otherwise you waste a bunch of time and time is money.

mannix77

Did not know that. Thx. Cool with the rebates as well. Quick and easy.

mannix77

Sewell,

any idea how dealers are offering what was posted yesterday? Could be one off thing, but it sue does seem to be a pretty hefty discount.

some3plus

I am using VPP to get my G37. Overall it will be 2200 below invoice(after VPP price -2500 dealer cash). However the dealer's invoice price is 150$ over Edmunds invoice price and is saying that invoice price varies by location. We are waiting for the car to arrive next week so we wouldn't know the exact price till then. But is it true that invoice price varies?

sewellgsm

Yes - and it is totally unfair. Infiniti charges different states/regions a different amount for Warranty Supplemental Cost Recovery. I think they figure it by how many warranty claims they have in that area. I think Infiniti should just put that cost into the base MSRP, but they don't. Right now all vehicles at the 10 Infiniti dealers in Texas is charged $260. So, your state maybe $150 or maybe your leaving off one small option.

I had a customer drive to Oklahoma last week because they don't have this cost right now.

sewellgsm

mannix77 - got little busy yesterday and did not keep up. Advertising is a tricky business - if you don't advertise a great or unbelievable price, some don't think it will be effective. But, if you sacrafice one car, but get a bunch of leads and activity (like we are doing now) than it could be worth it - called a loss leader. Now of course someone will get that car and they (the dealer) will try and hold on the trade or make it up with accessories or after-market products or in the financing in general - if they don't - oh well - they hopefully sell other vehicles at normal prices to make up for it. Plus I've learned some dealers have high doc fees, prep fees, freight charges, etc. So, who knows?

Bottom line - if you can get about $4500 or more off of MSRP - your getting a fair deal.

mannix77

Thx for the info.

mannix77

Has the closure of the cash for clunkers program reduced peoples interest in buying cars. There is no activity on these boards in the last couple of days.

sewellgsm

For Infiniti - I doubt it, only the FX qualified so we did not have much traffic in the first place. We only did 2 deals (thank goodness - they were a pain) and we have not been paid yet. I have a feeling there will be a ton of clunkers at the auctions over the next couple of months, when/if the government leaves the dealers hanging.