I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today! (Archived)

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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Yeah, it's just as "valuable" as those Custom Clouds cobbled together from a 1970s Chevrolet Monte Carlo.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Whoa - put some french perfume on that whore!
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    "Even hotels charge you $20-30/day for parking with a hotel room "

    The Sorrento in Seattle charges $26.50 with a room too. What's next, coin operated elevators? :mad:
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Funny thing about hotels; the more you pay, the less you get. The expensive joints give you "ambiance" I guess, but less expensive hotels seem to always have free parking, breakfast buffet and way more cable channels.
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Whoa that's an ugly Monte!!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,874
    i knew there would be a good story to go with this.
    sold his current ride to someone in this picture
    no more to be said.
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  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Your neighbor sold his son's Boxster to a F&F star?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,588
    Alternative propulsion

    Early Bavarian

    Vintage beast

    It needs to go home

    "Classic"

    " A dream around town or on the highway."

    Healthy bids here

    Photogenic late fintail

    Late fastback

    Most didn't fare so well

    Early hardtop

    Preservation

    Andre-mobile

    Brougham
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,711
    the 71 Olds 98...

    The dealer claims their fee is $499 and is nonnegotiable under Florida law...
    "AutoBusters charges a $499.00 dealer fee and is mandatory for all customers. This is a dealer fee and The State of Florida law states it cannot be negotiated."

    Does Florida manadate a profit fee for dealers?

    The 79 Pontiac is a great looking color. The seats remind me of my 77 Cutlass Brougham. Really great cloth seats.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    1980 Corolla -- well at least you know now that if you had put your '80 Corolla away for 29 years, and kept it in pristine condition, you'd get a cool $1500 for it today. Aren't you sorry now?

    83 Renault LeCar -- is this the new world record bid price? Could it possibly be true that the seller turned it down?

    AMC Gremlin -- $3500 bid? Bring the sick to the site of this miracle, so they might be healed.

    62 Saab ---$8K and climbing. I'd love to have it, but c'mon seller, $8K is good money for one of these things. It's not a GT750 Monte Carlo after all. VERY patient seller, answering all kinds of dumb questions.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,711
    Why does the Cadillac 1949 say Deville and DTS. Where does the DTS come from?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,588
    That's just a generic ebay ad-grouping category
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    DTS = DeVille Touring Sedan
    STS = Seville Touring Sedan
    CTS = Catera Touring Sedan, though I have a hard time equating that wonderful new little Caddy to that tarted-up Opel Omega! I could've have been diabolically cruel and said "Cimmaron Touring Sedan!" :P
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,711
    Was the '49 Cadillac ever referred to as a "deluxe touring sedan"? That's why I don't understand the Ebay poster's calling it a DTS.

    As far as winter in Ohio, I'm ready for cruiseins to start again... The Ebay select postings by fintail serve as a mini-cruisein, but I'm ready to start seeing the obscure cars from the past that owners roll into the weekly or monthly car shows. ;)

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,874
    he sold his good one, then bought the boxter(cpo) and another new 911.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,588
    Nope it wasn't...but ebay has certain classifications for Cadillac, and that's one. Ebay doesn't care how you classify your ad, you could list a 1903 Caddy as a DTS. Technically, the 1949 car would fall into their "not specified" category as they don't categorize model names for older cars.

    I wish we had good cruise-ins or large informal shows like the ones Andre attends out here. Every cruise in style event I have been to seems to be only for fiberglass hot rods, 57 Chevys customized in 1979, and muscle cars.
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    The last of these old bombers.

    The man in the gray vinyl car.

    The stylish man in the gray vinyl car.

    When you can't afford pseudo luxury.

    Old, infamous, and unloved.

    Iron's about all you're getting here.
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    The wheels and tires in the pics have been sold

    Thank Goodness !!!! :P
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well bump I could drop that entire lot into the smelter and not shed a tear.

    Or we could weld them one atop the other and title it "How Detroit Lost Its Groove".
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Are you kidding??? I'd weep bitterly if that happened to the two Cadillac Broughams! :cry::cry::cry:
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    Heck, I even have a soft spot for that 1990 Grand Marquis...although I'd feel kinda like Ben Matlock driving it.

    I do like those two Broughams, especially since they have 350's!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well it's going to happen so buck up and face it. We can't save everything, nor should we. :shades:
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I had a mid 80's GM LS. Bought it used. Got a Lincoln interior for a bargain price! It was a pretty good car for the times.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Obscurity comes in two flavors doesn't it? It's interesting how certain cars, made in HUGE numbers, are rarely seen anymore. This suggests of course that they were regarded as useful, utilitarian, and disposable.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    I think in some ways, those older, boxy 80's Grand Marquis and Crown Vics are nicer than the ones they have today! Especially on the inside. The interiors were just much better-padded and seemed to be made out of nicer materials. Today, I guess the most common customers of the "Panther" body are police departments and taxi fleets. So they probably just make the interiors to reflect that, and then throw in leather seats and some fake wood for the few retail customers that are left.

    I don't know if it's just my imagination, or the rounded off styling of the new ones had something to do with it, but I swear those older models were roomier inside, too.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well you'd certainly have more rear seat headroom with a box than you would with a curved roof.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    Well you'd certainly have more rear seat headroom with a box than you would with a curved roof.

    True, but it wasn't the headroom that bothered me. The back seat seemed tighter to me, legroom-wise. I wonder if they had to move the back seat forward a bit, because of the more curvy roof? The rounded style also lost a lot of footroom under the seat for back seat passengers, but that's probably a result of re-designed seats.

    I guess they also made the sides curve in more, so maybe the roof pillars and window glass is closer, as well? And the dashboard juts out, in a fashion that when you open the doors, it's there for you to bang your leg on, just like the old "dogleg" of a 1950's car with a severe wraparound windshield.
  • ryan77300dryan77300d Member Posts: 64
    That Stanley seems mighty steep for a non-condensing version. :confuse:
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Hey, Andre and I are trying our darnedest! I might save every homeless Cadillac Brougham and he'll save all the R-body Chryslers!
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Oh yeah! I had a white 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis LS with a dark blue leather interior. It was a Lincoln Town Car in all but the name. I called mine "The Poor Man's Town Car."
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Careful, you guys will become the equivalent of the Crazy Cat Lady they show being led out in handcuffs on late night TV news. :P

    Trivia: Did you know the correct (British) pronunciation of brougham is "broom"?
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    I spotted two more fortunate relatives of my '88 Park Ave: a 1985 or 1986 Park Avenue in maroon with a maroon vinyl top and the rectangular sealed-beam lights in place of the composite units on my car, and a blue 1986 LeSabre. They both had much nicer paint than my car and looked like they were well cared-for overall.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    I might save every homeless Cadillac Brougham and he'll save all the R-body Chryslers!

    Funny you'd say that Lemko, because Grbeck found another R-body for sale near his home! You and I actually saw it from a distance back in October. It was red with rally wheels off of a 1980 or so Mirada, parked at a body shop. Well, now it has a for sale sign on it!

    I'm tempted to go look at it, but between the money I've sunk into my '67 Catalina, and the money I sunk into the heat pump for the house, not to mention what the economy's been doing, I'm a little on the broke side right now! :sick:
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Well, I've heard it pronounced "BRO-ham" and "BROAM." I find it curious the British call a sedan a "saloon." I've always thought of a saloon as an Old West tavern.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Heck, I just got my place back together after a pipe broke. My girlfriend loves the new carpet so much she won't even let me wear shoes in my own house!!! She keeps house like I keep my Brougham. My bathroom's ready for the Pebble Beach concours.

    I'm waiting for Collectible Automobile to do an article on the R-body. I bet there's an interesting story behind it.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    A few years back, the 1979-81 5th Ave (or it might have been the whole NYer lineup) did show up in the "Cheap Wheels" section of "Collectible Automobile". They really didn't have anything nice to say about the car except that it's cheap to buy compared to a Cadillac or Electra/98 of similar vintage.

    I think the R-body was initially supposed to be dumped after 1980, but it survived for a short 1981 run, due to demand by police and taxi buyers, and I think the Newport was popular as a rental car. And since the NYer and 5th Ave were just fluffed-up versions, but virtually identical, it was probably profitable to keep them around, even with limited sales.

    I've heard that assembly line workers joked that they were going to take the next-to-the-last R-body off the line and bust it up with sledge hammers. Dunno if they actually went through with that, though. Or what happened to the last one off the assembly line.

    Incidentally, 1981 was supposed to be the last year for the M-body as well, but enough police and taxi and other fleet buyers protested, that Chrysler gave in and kept them going.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    I forgot about that article. Now that I remember, the car pictured in the article had a resemblance to your '79 New Yorker. I'd like to see an in-depth article with the Gran Fury and St. Regis included.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well if you want to impress your friends, say "broom", as that's how the original carriage name was pronounced. "bro-ham" is just sort of illiterate but "broam" is often used in the US. It's like a Yank pronouncing Worcester as WOR-chester instead of WOO-ster.

    It's than kind of "faux-luxury" terminology that sort of eroded Cadillac's credibility I think. I mean, it's not a fancy horse carriage and it's not a 1930s Rolls limo done in silver plate and silk and leather and walnut. It's a mass-produced car from Detroit. Let it stand on its own merits. Who did Cadillac think they were fooling?
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Oh yeah! I had a white 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis LS with a dark blue leather interior

    Wait a minute, Lemko had a FOMOCO product????
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    Wait a minute, Lemko had a FOMOCO product????

    This might come as a shock to you, but he actually had TWO! He had a Crown Vic at one time, too! Heck, he even had a Mopar once! :surprise:
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    And now his dirty past is there for all to see :)

    You just never know about people's dark side, do you?
  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
    Well, he didn't LOVE them, you know...... they were just meaningless affairs...

    It happens to every guy sometimes... ;)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I wonder if his other cars know about this?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,991
    ...was on last night..

    Ted Knight's character's grandson pukes through the open sunroof of a car, outside the country club..

    Anyone remember what make/model?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,588
    It was a Porsche 911 with a whale tail, I want to say it was a period dark brown too.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,991
    Didn't notice if it had a whale tail... dark brown 911 is right, though... :)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,588
    I am pretty sure it did anyway. IIRC the car belonged to the "Dr. Beeper" character. A sunroof equipped whale tail 911, in brown...very late 70s chic
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Was it this one?

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Who the heck cares about puking in a car. Who was "THE" hot chick of the movie and where is she now?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,588
    Yep that's it...he's just about to hear that great 'squish' sound as he sits down without looking.

    'Boogie Wonderland' playing in the background...

    Yeah, I've seen that movie a few times :shades:
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