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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    on the way home from work, driving my '85 Silverado, at one point there was a 1983-84 Camry hatchback behind me and a 1982-85 Dodge 400/600 coupe beside me. It seemed strange, having three ~25 year old vehicles converging together for that moment in time.

    The Camry was light blue, horribly rusted. It didn't actually have holes in it, but I bet it wouldn't have been hard to take a finger and poke some! The 400/600 was a two-tone gray, and in pretty good shape. I think it might have been a turbo...IIRC it had some slats in the hood.

    Oh, I also saw a white '82-85 Monte Carlo, which looked like it was in nice shape.
  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
    "This is an extremely rare car. It is the number 5LVF113. "

    http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/1008015653.html

    "This car would bring over a million dollars if the economy was better.
    It truly is a unique automobile.
    The price is $650,000.
    "

    Somehow.... I.... just...don't see it. A million dollar car on Craigslist?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think the seller is bonkers. The car is real, but I've never seen a Phantom V sell for more than about $180K. And is wasn't owned by the Royal Family anyway. I'm not sure how much extra the Queen's tush is worth for day ride.

    I'd guess in today's market, given the monstrous size of this thing and the dowdy performance, that $125, 000 is all the money right now. Maybe $150K under the TV lights.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Kaiser-Darrin -- similar to the early Vettes with 6 cylinder engines and quality control that is marginal at best. Nonetheless, a rare and interesting car. I think it'll take about $75K-80K to get the job done here, if the car is as nice as the ad says it is. Don't plan to get excited driving it though.

    57 Hudson --- every late 50s American car should have had two designers...one to draw, the other with a baseball bat standing behind him.

    Simca 8 sport ---- cute rare, does anyone care?

    Renault Alpine -- awesome car. Fun fun fun.

    Subaru XT turbo --- crush it please!

    71 Honda --- people love these weird JDM cars. But will these eccentric collectors open their wallets? (historically, no they won't).

    Datsun 210 -- who cares?

    280ZX -- ditto

    Ami 6 -- for those who collect freak shows, it doesn't get any better than this. The Mount Everest of Ugly. I bet it'll bid over $5K

    1909 Cadillac ---fabulous car, but GEEZ! Get the thing running you guys before you try to sell it. Who's going to take a $50K++ flyer on a car that might have a catastrophic issue? AND for goodness sake, put some more documentation into the ad!!

    79 Cadillac -- with the rebuilt title, the bid was spot on at $5,400. With a good title, about $8,000 is all the money in the world IMO.

    Chrysler Conquest -- and....who cares?

    59 CDN Bonneville -- 6 cylinder, stick shift? I don't think this is salable in America. Buy a "real" V8 one for perhaps $15K and be happy.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    "GEEZ! Get the thing running you guys before you try to sell it. "

    Yeah, it the ELECTRICAL system, fer crissake! Not like they have to rewire the fuel injection or sometheng...
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Member Posts: 4,600
    The 1980 Renault alpine a 110 alpine 310 and the !987 Chrysler Conquest TSi would be candidates for the "Sports And Sporty Cars Of The '80s" discussion.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I would not utter the two in the same breath however. :P One is real, one isn't.
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    a sports car from a respected manufacturer, only 3000 copies sold, cost more than a Porsche 911 when new, a nice example now for only $7,850.... engine by Isuzu :blush:

    unloved when new...

    I didn't even know what it was until I did some research.
    M100

    It had the great misfortune of being introduced the same year as the Miata, and being FWD :sick:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    I actually saw one of those last week...maybe the same car. Certainly not the shining moment for that brand.
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    Perhaps it's the economy that's bringing out the odd ones:
    1965 LOTUS CORTINA
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    "Cost to restore in 2003, over $75K to complete, plus 1000s of hours of personal time investment." Sales price: $29,900.

    This guy CAN'T be married!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    People go nuts for Lotus Cortinas---they are eligible for vintage racing and are actually very competitive. Nice car to drive. Not to be confused with the next generation Ford Cortina.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    That's insane, but awesome.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You have to look at it as a ticket to some very tasty vintage racing events. They don't just let ANY old car in, and the Lotus Cortina has a very impressive racing history going way back. This car is much more than it seems.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    The car looks to be in exceptional condition too. It's a lot of money for a little old box, but I think worse purchases could be made.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The price guides justify $30K.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Seems like that Cortina would be like an equivalent Alfa in #1 condition, plus some $$ for rarity...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No, I'm afraid really really clean 60s era Alfa Normale Spiders are busting $30K easily. Perhaps a Sprint Normale Coupe that's clean could be had for $30K.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Yes, I was thinking of something more 'sedan-ish', but I don't know my Alfas...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Not much available in 60s Alfa sedans. They are pretty darn rare. There's the Giulia Super Sedan, which you'll see maybe one of in your lifetime, and the more common GTV only appeared in the USA around 1969--that car could be had well under $30K yes you are right.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...dark blue 1971 Ford LTD convertible with a white top.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Cream white 1962 Ford Galaxie 4door H/T in #3 condition, maneuvering thru a parking lot.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    Early 80s Subaru hatchback, like the one in the original Cannonball Run, in surpisingly good condition. Early model with round headlghts no less.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Followed a '74-76 Valiant on the way to work, looked in excellent shape, that light green metallic with a black vinyl roof.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Chrysler TC Maserati in the Costco parking lot. Yellow with a green hood. Did they make a Pittsburgh Steeler edition of this car? My books don't show it. :shades:
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Good stuff, wevk, took me a second to figure out the car's name :P
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...white 1962 Ford Galaxie sedan on a rollback truck on Longshore near Rising Sun in NE Philly.
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    If you liked it, it could be yours.

    While trolling CL I saw this the other day.

    link title
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Member Posts: 4,600
    saw a first year black Fiero on the road yesterday. It neither looked nor sounded too good, but it was running.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Your post of the Lotus Cortina isn't opening now, but over here in UK they are truly fabled cars - the main problem is the number of fakes that were concocted from milder versions over the years but a true Lotus Cortina is a really fast racer, not really suitable for everyday use - it's a bit highly strung. I think their main weakness was the rear suspension on early versions, but they were the most successful track saloon of their day, in class, and won events like the East African Safari so they must have been tough, and presumably the suspension could be toughened (it would need to be for rallying).
    You could take that car to almost any event in this country catering for post 1960 cars and it would be not just elligible, but also competitive.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Awesome cars and worth 3 or 4 times a BMW 2002. and probably more than an Alfa Sprint, which it would slap silly on a race course.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Lotus Cortinas were very competitive cars but "slap an Alfa Sprint silly", I don't think so, unless Jimmy Clark was driving.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    -a really cherry '64 Plymouth Fury, copper/bronze in color and looking really spiffy with it's top down on a sunny day. Alas, didn't see an engine badge.

    -Meyers Manx style four-seater dune buggy, primer color with Baja-style upthrust exhaust, a real time machine.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    depends on how much the vintage race car owner is cheating :P On paper at least, the Cortina Mk 1 should have the upper hand with more HP and a killer set of lower gears over a stock 101 Sprint, but with say an Alfa GTA or a balls out BMW 2002, maybe not. Oh, yeah, Jimmy Clark was something wasn't he? I think he used to regularly thump the 3.8 Jaguar saloons as well. He was famous for going around turns with one wheel in the air.

    I've driven a Mark 1--it's a raucous car to be sure. It has none of the grace and charm of an Alfa.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Convertible Tucker ---- yeah, righhhhht.....He said that she said and I heard that they......oh, dear, every time a genuine Tucker breaks a new sales record this stuff comes out of the woodwork....

    Skoda--- ah, somebody call the Bidding Warden and make him start the bid at something less than full retail. You gotta "EASE" people into cars like this if you want top dollar. They have to know that other people want it. It's like those little free greasy meatballs at the banquet table. Nobody wants them until they see everyone else grabbing.

    Volvo 444 -- i'd love to have that car, too bad he junked it all up into a Swedish realtor's bawdy car.

    Mercedes 230 El Kommandanto --- what can I say. I'm speechless.

    1980 Cadillac Seville -- oh dear, didn't anyone tell him nobody likes these cars? Two doors only makes it look worse! He wants $20,000? Try $3,500.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Fin, an amazing collection of wierdos...I like that Argentinean Caddy hearse with the amazing woodwork. Straight out of some strange Latin movie...
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Went down from Vancouver, down the Oregon Coast, to San Francisco for 4 days, and back up I5.

    Amazing drive down the coast. Spotted this cool diner in Florence Oregon.

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    Ate in this diner (Lori's Diner) in San Francisco that housed this Edsel inside:

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    And then while on a San Fran movie tour, spotted this collection by chance at the Academy of Art University, There were lots more in the back but the place was closed so we couldn't go in. Mostly pre war luxury cars.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    You need a 'Packard' shirt :P

    That collection you couldn't get into looks very interesting, some nice stuff peeking out there. And a normal old (yet cool looking, IMO) 37 Ford nestled in among the high status material.
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Yeah I wish I could get in to the building. Oh well, it was about a day before we were leaving too, and we didn't have much time to return,

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    I really like cars from that era, although I don't know if I will ever own one. Same for pre-1905 cars - I've got to see London to Brighton sometime, and I'd love to drive in it. The rate of advancement in design during the 30s, and in technology at the turn of the century, was something not seen before or since.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You could buy a Model T Ford for not much money, especially if you don't choose a brass model, say post 1916 or some such.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    I'd like a big 1900-1905 supercar, something like a Mercedes Simplex, or any number of foreign or domestic 1930s cars with aerodynamic or futuristic styling. Sadly, the market for either those hasn't declined like everyday teens and twenties cars - which in terms of fun value for putting around town are pretty much bargains now.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,869
    There is a local collector that is really into the brass era cars... He communicates with Leno occasionally...

    Pretty spectacular collection..... Domestic only.. but, that era doesn't really do that much for me...

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    I don't have as much of a desire for something little like a curved dash Olds or a one cylinder car...but the huge overpowered (relative to their absolute lack of safety and handling technology) beasts are interesting to me. I like how early cars sound too, very pure and mechanical.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Here's what you need:
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    How do they get those wheels looking like tilted ovals? Gives it that old time SPEED.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,869
    He has a curved dash Olds... but, the impressive ones are what we used to call, "Chitty, Chitty, Bang Bang" cars... Big giant cars that are like climbing up on a wagon...

    He has one car that only three still exist... :surprise:

    They are a lot of work to drive, though...

    He has '30-something Olds businessman's coupe with a rumble seat... That's my favorite one... Anything older than that is lost on me...

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,427
    The car is leaning forward too...must have been some hard braking!
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