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--jjf
How much off the MSRP?
Also, can someone help on how to efficiently find all dealers' email around 100 miles from my home? Thanks,
Cheasapeake, VA dealer had 2 red EXL-AWD last night at $27.9 lowest negotiated. No other dealer in VA Beach, Hampton, Williamsburg had this model remaining.
Sheehy in Alexandria is giving no haggle quotes at $27K, but need to pull them from other dealers to fulfill.
Leesburg, Waldorf, Fredericksburg and the first Baltimore I checked with are all entirely out of 2006 models.
Fairfax Honda has a silver AWD RES at 28.9.
I ended up going with Pohanka in Marlow Heights, taking their last EXL AWD manager demo. Had 6000 miles on it, running boards, and was silver, two free oil changes and a free cargo mat = $26,019 + dest + 100 Doc fee. They still have demo, blue AWD NAV with the towing package and 5000 miles offered to me at $28.3, but there is a soft commitment on it right now.
Hope that helps anyone looking in the area...
The most to least available for 2006 are as follows...
2WD EXL (about 8 left at Casey Honda in Newport News, VA)
4WD EX
4WD EXL+DVD (1 left at Checkered Flag Honda of VA as of 09/28)
4WD EXL+Navi - extremely rare (I wanted but had no luck)
2007 LX 2WD $24,200
2007 EX AWD $27,800
2007 EX 2WD $26,500
2006 EX AWD $25,758
I did all my research before going into the dealership. I negotiated the car and accessories over the net. The only thing I had to do at the dealership was to test drive the Pilot, confirm the final price, negotiate the extended warrantee, sign all the paperwork, and take delivery of the SUV.
Like any major purchases, do your homework and have your financing ready to go before you start your negotiation process. Oh, one other thing, stay away from Lute Riley Honda! They can't stick to their word! 60 Minutes or Dateline (Investigative Report) also did a story on them a few years ago about how they scam people and looks like they haven't changed their practice. Good thing I had the common sense to walk out when they started jacking up the price even after we had already negotiated it over the phone.
Good Luck!
By the way what version of DVD ( navigation disc) does the 2007 have. I have a 2006 Pilot and my disc is version 4.31. It is still missing some streets.
You can find the disc in the box below the front passenger seat. Push the button and it will pop out just like your home DVD.
As it turns out we bought a metallic blue one which my wife likes better ( but not at the same low price) I think they do this switch and bait routine to get you into their showroom ( said the spider to the fly)
Took less than hour and I know we would not have gotten as good deal without doing some homework here first. So, thank you all for your postings. It really helped.
Finally what dealer did you finally buy from and do you have any tips.
Thanks in advance for your help.
We had agreed on $30,700 including the doc fee by email quote. When I got there, they then tried to charge me for wheel locks and clear coat etc. When I refused
they tried to charge me the doc fee again. I walked out . The next day, they called and said $303000 plus $400 doc fee. Be careful about extras and whether the doc fee is included when you negotiate with them and be agressive. They use time as a weapon so bring a book or IPOD. Once we finally agreed on this price everything was very smooth.
Theey also gave me a fair price on my trade in. It was $220 over a fair Car Max price.
Curry Honda low balled me on my trade.They did
agree to match the Carey Paul price. When I said I can do the deal without trade in ,they reneged on matching the Carey Paul price.
Gwinett Honda also asked for a copy of Carey Paul price and offered to match it. I never had to see if they would honor their match. Get as many email quotes as you can first and then with something in writing, you can get other dealers to match or beat it.
I geuss that there are no honda here.
no good champion honda. :mad:
Good luck with your Pilot.
Let me know the best OTD price in IL currently offered.
Thanks in Adavance.
i mean really - have you even read what you wrote and how you wrote it?
if you want to know the "best OTD price currently offered in IL" might I suggest you start e-mailing out some bid requests? And maybe even talk to some dealers and then do us all a favor and tell us how it went.
Also in NJ - July 28 - Edmunds "Get Dealer Pricing" 2006 Pilot EX-L AWD (no nav/no RES) $25,888 plus $550 dest etc - was $3,842 below invoice and $7,157 below MSRP - benefited from $3,000 dealer incentive.
With dealers responding to internet Edmunds "Get Dealer Pricing" followed up with emails and/or phone call to dealers to confirm model (example - make sure AWD not 2WD etc) and availability of color - there is little reason to walk in to dealer without price being finalized.
Go to dealer without finalized price - and the buying process becomes arduous - very painful - the dealer has time on there side - and they like to make people wait.
One other thought - said no thank you to extended warrantee - felt like a lot of money - particularly for a Honda - last Civic I owned went to 152,000 miles and would not break.
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Any advice on good Houston dealers to work with?
For accessories, I'm looking to get the trailer hitch (trailer hitch, PSF cooler, ATF cooler, trailer hitch harness, hitch ball), side steps, rear splash guards, all-season floor mats, cargo cover, and cargo tray.
I also have a 2000 Xterra trade-in that I hope to get a good value on.
Thanks in advance for your help.
As for accesories - I would suggest you also look up estore.honda.com. You may be able to order online for installation by your delaer at more than 15% below MSRP, with no haggling!
Also, the price is different for each dealer, so find the estore price for all your local dealers, use that as another data point in your negotiations.
Some accesories like floor mats, cargo tray etc - you can buy them cheaper at http://www.handa-accessories.com which is a Honda dealer selling then cheaper (even after youa dd shipping). You don't need topay $99/hr labor for the dealer to put floor mats for you!
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the advice on accessories. I'll check out estore.honda.com and the other website you provided and see what prices they have.
1st off, forget sticker - only suckers pay "sticker".
I would say deduct $9k from the invoice price of your car for private party or $24k is what it's worth. Asking would of course be around $25. As for trades - lets just say get reddy to be insulted - they probably wouldn't give you more than $22 is my guess.
They are even cheaper than the website you mentioned http://www.handaccessories.com/
Go and compare for yourself. I ordered all my accessories from them.
Yes, https://www.accessories-honda.com/store/index.php. has great prices too!
Here are the 3 reasons I went with http://www.handaccessories.com/
1. They have no restocking fee vs 20% for the site you mentioned - just in case you have to return something
2. They are an actual Honda dealer!
3. They gave me a BETTER rate, including shipping. I ordered rear splash guards and wheel locks - paid $64.75 + $8.53 shipping = $73.28. Your suggsted site give it to me for $63.00 + $17.73 shipping = $80.73.
That being said, I would suggest checking both sites for the total Delivered cost! One may be cheaper for one person but expensive for another - based on where you live and what you buy!
But I appreciate your response!
Is there any dealer incentive for 2007 Honda Pilot that anyone know of?
I'm a PA resident that two weeks ago signed the papers to Lease a 2006 Honda Pilot in northern NJ. We drove 1.5 hours to the dealer because they had the color and options we wanted.
They kept us there for 4 hours and finally we got into see the finance department right before closing.
They rushed us through the process and by that point we were fine with that as we were tired and starving...
Today, we called because we did not get tags or registration and the finance manager told us that
we had to come back in because they screwed up the tax on the car and they had to rewrite the contract.
I stated that this certainly would not mean a higher payment and the finance manager said he 'wouldn't do that to us'
but after figuring out how a lease is calaculated I see they already tried to screw us...
First, I had a trade-in that I wanted to do outside the deal. I had just paid off the car and it will take about
3 weeks to get the title. The salesman came back with his boss and said they must put the car in the deal.
What he said he would do for us is this...
Trade-in value of car 3500 would be added to the cap cost. (I did not like this).
They would immediately show this money as a trade-in to take the cost back down to agreed upon price.
They would then cut a check to me in the amount of 3500.
I still don't understand the logic in this other than the fact that once I give them the title, they will forget
about this part of the deal and after getting home, I see there is no mention of this check anywhere.
I feel better that I recorded phone conversations by both salesman and finance manager confirming the check.
So right now they have my car but do not have the title to it.
Next, we were never told the money factor but after plugging in the numbers we determined it to be .003817
which translates to 9.1608% interest!!! That seems exorbitant for someone with an 807 credit score.
Here is where they screwed up and why they want us to come in and sign a new contract....
PA has a 9% lease tax and the finance manager never added it into the monthly payments...
He simply forgot to put the number in. Our payment would have been 550 but instead is 504.
Now I know what he will likely do... He will lower the money factor to .002817 which will keep the payment the same
but my gripe is that factor still translates to 6.76 percent which I still think is high for excellent credit.
They also screwed up because they did not sign the lease agreement and we did not sign the back so the contract is not valid.
Currently, we have had the car for 2 weeks without tags, registration or inspection.
They have had our trade in without the title.
We have been verbally promised (and recorded proof) that once title is surrenderd we will get a 3500 check.
My questions are these...
1) Is a money factor of .003817 or even the projected adjustment of .002817 high for an 807 credit score through Honda Finance?
2) What do you make of this trade-in deal?
3) Should I with this bad taste in my mouth tell them that I want to rework the deal to terms I can live with or just return the
car and take back my trade-in.
Thanks.
JMLo
If they won't do the deal without it you probably are eating a substantial amount on the trade anyway.
Since I don't know your payments are its hard to tell. I suspect the way the deal came down it isn't anything to write home about.
Try to go to the kbb.com and see what roughly the trade is worth to see if you're even in the ballpark. In any event I would want a bigger check for the trade with the same or lower payments or just turn the car in and drive your trade away. The way you consummated a (30000?) deal because you were hungry tells me driving away may not be a great loss.
Perhaps someone with more experience with leases can offer more input.
--jjf
Hi, newbie on the board and sorry for the book but I could really use some advice. Here is my situation...
I'm a PA resident that two weeks ago signed the papers to Lease a 2006 Honda Pilot in northern NJ. We drove 1.5 hours to the dealer because they had the color and options we wanted.
They kept us there for 4 hours and finally we got into see the finance department right before closing.
They rushed us through the process and by that point we were fine with that as we were tired and starving...
Today, we called because we did not get tags or registration and the finance manager told us that
we had to come back in because they screwed up the tax on the car and they had to rewrite the contract.
I stated that this certainly would not mean a higher payment and the finance manager said he 'wouldn't do that to us'
but after figuring out how a lease is calaculated I see they already tried to screw us...
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