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Just to clarify, we are talking to 3 different dealers. Dealer A is where we got the runaround for a demo. dealer B also has a demo. Dealer B has been straightforward. Just not sure how to get them to negotiate. Also, how to handle the finance manager. Dealer B also has a good price on new and has good price on new EXL 4wd without nav.
Dealer C has the best price so far on the new Pilot EXL 4wd with nav. Says not willing to negotiate.
I want the nav system for the back up camera. Anyone have an aftermarket camera installed?
Can't decide about the nav. Very tempting because of the back up camera.
Any advice on how to approach the finance manager and negotiation process?
Thanks.
I have to retract my previous comment about the Pilot nav system because I didn't realize it now includes the backup camera. It about time - my '05 Odyssey R&N has the camera but my wife's doesn't.
Suggest that you decide which model you want and then email 10 or so dealers asking for their best price. Indicate that you will be buying immediately. It should not be hard to find an invoice less incentive deal. As for your trade, the response you got on the other thread is right on the money.
Internet Price: $27,529.00
Total OTD Price: $30,115.43
Can I do better?
thanks!
chris g
Could anyone recommend me a Dealer and Internet Manager in the Bay Area?
Thanks a lot!
Price - $26,977
TTL - $1123
OTD - $28,100
Also got the 2.9 financing. Thanks to everyone posting pricing info in this forum it makes it much easier to know you are getting a fair deal.
I have started discussions with Boch on the same model of Pilot.
Were you able to get to this price through email only? I am getting the "can't authorize that low without Sales Manager approval" right now. I am hoping to cut through the BS via email first.
Thanks in advance for any guidance on this.
thanks!
turtle3550(at)yahoo(dot)com
Thanks so much.
Dennis
Thanks.
Good luck!
Get the quote from Boch. He will beat it. Let me know how you make out.
For just $1000 more, you can buy a brand-new 2008 model.. Maybe not from that dealer... you might have to shop around..
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Price - $27,770
Destination Fee - $635
Document Fee - $150
Transfer Plates - $80
Sales Tax (6.75%) - $1,917
OTD - $30,402
Unfortunately IL (Chicago Area) does not have the 2.9% promo. I was pre-approved through my bank at 5.55% for 60 months. Are there better new car rates?
1) Has everything. 42,656 miles
Trade-In: $19,150
Private Party Value: $22,760
Retail Value: $26,575
The dealer is asking $26,000 and they just got it in last week.
2) Again, has everything, w/ 16,800 miles.
Trade-In: $22,375
Private Party Value: $25,985
Retail Value: $29,800
The deal first asked, $29,000 for it, about three weeks ago they dropped the price to $28,000 and over the weekend, dropped it again to $27,000.
Here's my question, I visited the dealer a few weeks ago and offered $23,000 for the Pilot with 16,800 miles. The dealer has had it since just before Christmas, they purchased it at a car auction, and the only work done on it (it's Honda certified) was a change of the fluids.
Given the offers they've been giving on the new Pilots, is my (cash) offer of $23,000 for either Pilot too low or should I go lower/higher? I've never purchased a used vehicle before so I'm not quite sure what value (trade-in, private party, or SRV) I should be working from.
Any advice is much appreciated!
All the other dealers seem like they don't have any interest in beating this price. Will be buying this Friday hopefully!
Not sure why this is so difficult. And I've checked their stock status online. If that's up to date, they are NOT moving lots of Pilots.
If you take invoice less incentive less 100% of hold back you get $26,465.40 so without a trade or a large dealer fee on top of the price the numbers you state you want to get may be about impossible.
I guess you can stop trying to pound that round peg into the square hole - they just are not going to deal like you want them to - and you may not find another dealer willing to deal any lower either.
My wife and I had to drive 3 1/2 hours (each way) to get a decent deal - none of the local dealers would touch the offer we got for a better dealer. The trip was not bad and we got some together time, but it was made sweeter by the nearly $1,200 we saved
Use the dealer locator and start finding a dealer who WILL deal like you want - but I think in the end the effort expended to find a dealer who will save you a little money on the deal and the travel to/from that dealer will make you think you should have just taken this dealer's into hold back offer.
Dennis
Dennis
Also, I am inclined to think that the incentives are going to be there as long as there are 08s around. I am thinking about waiting until after March 3rd to see if the incentives are better. Thoughts?
Thanks
As I just posted, take the invoice shown on the web less the $3,500 incentive and you should have a good price. Figure the hold back (2% of MSRP) and you can figure the bottom line, dealer makes nothing (in theory) price. I think you will find that $25k is not a number you can get without having a trade in or paying a big dealer fee. $26k even is not a number you can get either - if you are talking about a 4wd EX-L Pilot.
We don't know what will happen, but $3,500 is about as high an incentive as the Pilot had ever carried - but it could go to $4k or more - we just don't know. As the incentive goes up sales go up and choice and selection go down. If you shopped a dealer now with 6 EX-L models in a variety of colors you might could get a better deal than in a few weeks when the have only 2 left. You just don't know.
BTW I would like to be 25 again and a millionaire, but I think being who I am is more realistic
Dennis
If you can get that now, then I would say get a new Pilot. You just missed the cheap financing promo that had in some states, though.
If you can't find a dealer that will deal down to or into the hold back, then if you wait the incentive may get larger or the dealers you are working with hungrier - or both.
I would use the Honda dealer locator to contract dealers in a large area around where you live you may find one that will may you a nicer deal than you can get locally. I have dealt with Swope in Louisville several times with good results, but on our Pilot we got a much better price from Hennessy in GA (which may be too far for you).
Dennis
Edit: Also in MO you pay sales tax later when you license the car, so that is not part of the price, but I was including destination fees.
How close are you to Memphis? I bought a 2WD EX-L there two weeks ago and got an OTD of $27,300 (includes 5% MS sales tax). In other words, I bought the Pilot for $26K including all fees. If you want more info - email at cbruton2@comcast.net
I bought the same model at Boch last Wednesday. I started discussions by e-mail but when the salesperson played the "we'll beat any price" routine I called her directly. At first she said she couldn't move on price, but then five minutes later she went down $1,000. I said fine and hung up. Twenty minutes later her manager e-mailed me and said they had more room on price. I called the manager several hours later. After a twenty-five minute phone call with the manager here's the end result: Salesperson's best offer was $28,690. Manager went to $28,300, then $28,000. I then told the manager to speak with her boss and I would buy it that night if she did it for $27,500. She came back after speaking with her boss and said $27,700. I said fine, let's split the difference and do it for $27,600 (this price includes the destination fee).
Bottom Line: Be aggressive and don't give in. Get to a manager asap. They'll tell you they are losing money, just laugh at them.
Just a comment on the reply by JROYHONDA. I also spoke with Herb Chambers, but what annoyed me with them was that they just kept saying they'll beat anyone's price if I brought in a written offer. They were never willing to give a lower figure to me by e-mail or over the phone. I ignored them after that.
Thanks so much for the detailed response! I made an email offer of $27,500 (including destination) to Boch and I got the "thousands less than our cost" "if you get that price elsewhere, jump on it" blah blah.
I will take your advice and give them a call.
I am starting the process with Herb too. I should be getting an email offer tomorrow.
Thinking of pulling the trigger on this but they only have white, red, blue and black left on the VP's Was Looking for Silver. White was a reluctant last choice of four.
Anyway, Co-wokers think it is a great deal. What have you all been getting for this model. Thanks! You all are a wealth of great info.
PS: Thank you to all-this has been an education and a tremendous negotiating tool for us.