2015 Toyota Sienna Lease Questions

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,220
    edited February 2016
    fibber2 said:

    Hmmm... Thanks!

    2016 XLE FWD: Residual = 58%, MF = .00092, TFS Subvent cash = $0

    2016 XLE AWD: Residual = 56%, MF = .00092, TFS Subvent cash = $0

    That makes these a bit more expensive. Oh well.... If I pick dandelions for lunch from now on, maybe.

    An example of dealer BS... We were there this weekend and talked about purchase vs lease. They gave me a printout on a pair of vehicles with MSRP, their 'best' deal, finance and lease rates with projected monthly payments. The 'purchase' numbers looked legit, but the lease numbers seemed very high. Some time ago I wrote my own script for 'deconvoluting' a lease: Plug in whatever they give you, and you can calculate the essential other numbers. Well, sure enough with the lease they rolled EVERYTHING into it (tire tax, DMV title & paperwork fees, NYS tax, acquisition fee, etc.) but somehow FORGOT(?) to include the best deal price in the figures. They reverted back to MSRP for the depreciation calculation, pushing the lease numbers up another $70 (house profit). You have to watch them like a hawk!

    Residual is always a percentage of full MSRP. It doesn't change with the selling price of the car. After all, the car is worth the same at the end of the lease, no matter how much you pay for it.

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  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Residual is always a percentage of full MSRP.

    That's correct. But the basic monthly payment is comprised of two parts: Capital Depreciation (the segment you consume over the term of the lease), and a loan of money for both while you are using the vehicle, and to pay for the deferred residual that won't be realized by the loan holder until the vehicle is resold when you are done with it.

    Depreciation is defined as the Residual (that was based on the full MSRP) subtracted from the Discounted Price (that's why you ALWAYS negotiate your best price FIRST, then discuss the possibility of leasing). If the leaser ignores the discount price, you'll grossly overpay.
  • jrncojrnco Member Posts: 5
    Greetings Michaell,

    I'm in Colorado a nd looking for lease numbers on 2015 XLE AWD Sienna... 12k miles/year for 36 months.

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,481
    jrnco said:

    Greetings Michaell,

    I'm in Colorado and looking for lease numbers on 2015 XLE AWD Sienna... 12k miles/year for 36 months.

    Thanks!

    .00001 and 57%. $1000 lease cash.

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  • jrncojrnco Member Posts: 5
    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Greetings Michaell,

    I'm in Colorado and looking for lease numbers on 2015 XLE AWD Sienna... 12k miles/year for 36 months.

    Thanks!

    .00001 and 57%. $1000 lease cash.
    Thanks! Apologies for the dumb question... by lease cash, do you mean that's what TFS is offering in terms of cash back/capitalized cost reduction? If so, do you know if that can be combined with the $1500 cash back they're offering on 2015 Siennas? I've read conflicting descriptions.

    Thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,481
    jrnco said:

    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Greetings Michaell,

    I'm in Colorado and looking for lease numbers on 2015 XLE AWD Sienna... 12k miles/year for 36 months.

    Thanks!

    .00001 and 57%. $1000 lease cash.
    Thanks! Apologies for the dumb question... by lease cash, do you mean that's what TFS is offering in terms of cash back/capitalized cost reduction? If so, do you know if that can be combined with the $1500 cash back they're offering on 2015 Siennas? I've read conflicting descriptions.

    Thanks again.
    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive. Other incentives may only be applicable for a purchase.

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  • joli1234567joli1234567 Member Posts: 1
    Hi Michaell,

    Are there updated numbers for 2015 Limited 36/12k in southern california? Also, I am getting mixed numbers on MSRP, so if you can include, that would be great.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,481

    Hi Michaell,

    Are there updated numbers for 2015 Limited 36/12k in southern california? Also, I am getting mixed numbers on MSRP, so if you can include, that would be great.

    I'll assume FWD.

    54% and .00001. $1000 lease cash.'

    Can't help you with pricing - use the 'make / model / year' pull downs at the top of the page to the link to the price tools.

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  • jrncojrnco Member Posts: 5
    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Greetings Michaell,

    I'm in Colorado and looking for lease numbers on 2015 XLE AWD Sienna... 12k miles/year for 36 months.

    Thanks!

    .00001 and 57%. $1000 lease cash.
    Thanks! Apologies for the dumb question... by lease cash, do you mean that's what TFS is offering in terms of cash back/capitalized cost reduction? If so, do you know if that can be combined with the $1500 cash back they're offering on 2015 Siennas? I've read conflicting descriptions.

    Thanks again.
    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive. Other incentives may only be applicable for a purchase.
    Michaell,

    Last question... where is this $1000 lease cash incentive advertised? I haven't been able to find it anywhere except for what you're saying here. I'm afraid I'm going to get to the dealership and they're going to say "what lease cash?"

    Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,481
    jrnco said:

    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Greetings Michaell,

    I'm in Colorado and looking for lease numbers on 2015 XLE AWD Sienna... 12k miles/year for 36 months.

    Thanks!

    .00001 and 57%. $1000 lease cash.
    Thanks! Apologies for the dumb question... by lease cash, do you mean that's what TFS is offering in terms of cash back/capitalized cost reduction? If so, do you know if that can be combined with the $1500 cash back they're offering on 2015 Siennas? I've read conflicting descriptions.

    Thanks again.
    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive. Other incentives may only be applicable for a purchase.
    Michaell,

    Last question... where is this $1000 lease cash incentive advertised? I haven't been able to find it anywhere except for what you're saying here. I'm afraid I'm going to get to the dealership and they're going to say "what lease cash?"

    Thanks.
    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive; dealer can choose to pass it along to the customer. Use the knowledge to negotiate your best price.

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  • jrncojrnco Member Posts: 5
    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Michaell said:

    jrnco said:

    Greetings Michaell,

    I'm in Colorado and looking for lease numbers on 2015 XLE AWD Sienna... 12k miles/year for 36 months.

    Thanks!

    .00001 and 57%. $1000 lease cash.
    Thanks! Apologies for the dumb question... by lease cash, do you mean that's what TFS is offering in terms of cash back/capitalized cost reduction? If so, do you know if that can be combined with the $1500 cash back they're offering on 2015 Siennas? I've read conflicting descriptions.

    Thanks again.
    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive. Other incentives may only be applicable for a purchase.
    Michaell,

    Last question... where is this $1000 lease cash incentive advertised? I haven't been able to find it anywhere except for what you're saying here. I'm afraid I'm going to get to the dealership and they're going to say "what lease cash?"

    Thanks.
    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive; dealer can choose to pass it along to the customer. Use the knowledge to negotiate your best price.
    Got it. Thanks.
  • elvis_kelvis_k Member Posts: 1
    Can I get the MF and RV on a 2016 Sienna Limited FWD for 36/12 and 36/15 in southern CA? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,481
    elvis_k said:

    Can I get the MF and RV on a 2016 Sienna Limited FWD for 36/12 and 36/15 in southern CA? Thanks!

    36/15 - 55% and .00058

    Add 2% for 12K

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