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Sorry.
On a FWD Rogue. And 12k/year at 36 month lease for both the Rogue and Altima.
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2015 Rogue: .00003 MF and 55% residual
2016 Rogue: .00134 MF and 59% residual
No 2016 Altima numbers out yet
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2015 numbers are the same, regardless of trim level.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Just wondering...i went to the dealership this weekend. I am in Florida by the way. I got this quote for a 2015 Nissan Altima SV with the Tech and Convenience packages. Is the dealership screwing me over? I tried calculating it on my own and I got the same amount of $298 with tax already included per month. Except i don't calculate all the fees that they have. Am i doing something wrong...can someone explain it to me or is this a good deal?
Thanks.
What is the $1295 for the "Premium Package"? The doc fees are pretty high, but typical for Florida. What is the "Gov't Fee"? Not seen that before.
I don't understand the difference between the "Gross Cap Cost" and the "Net Cap Cost".
Something doesn't seem right with these numbers - if I use the $24,223 cap cost and 6% sales tax, I get $298/mo.
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I am not totally sure what the difference between the "Gross Cap Cost" and the "Net Cap Cost" is either....im thinking the "Gross Cap Cost" is the dealer invoice price...but thats just my assumption.
I am not sure what the "Premium Package" is either actually. Also i just realized that all those fees + "Premium Package" + "Your Price" does not add up to $24,222.64....it adds up to $23,760....so not sure where they got that extra $500 now.
So are you saying that the "Government Fee" is a fake? and that I should find out about the "Premium Package"? Anything else you suggest?
Thanks Again.
Yes, you should learn what goes into the "Premium Package" - could be $100 worth of stuff that is highly overpriced.
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Thanks
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Nissan numbers expire today .. new numbers available later this week.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
So having asked the guy via email about six times for money factor and residual I get the "what's up your obsession with that?" reply. almost let rip on the "well I like to know when I'm dealing with liars" thing but bit my tongue and said "I was always told to negotiate sales price and then discuss leasing and lease terms"..... "oh no, that not how its done, trust me (dude who you have never set eyes upon before) sir, I gave you our very best deal on that car".
OK then, Infiniti it is.
36 months, 12K miles per month.
Sign and drive is $263 per month Only state TAX is extra.
Is it good deal? Thanks.
Looks like a stellar deal. Congrats and enjoy!
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That's how it was.
Actually I did not pay TAX because residual value of my returned Infiniti was higher than the price of Altima.
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Thanks!
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Thanks!
Can't speak to why they are so low, but your thinking does have merit.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
looking for MF and residual on
2.5 S model no other package.
36 month /12k a year
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Car: 2.6 S Special Edition:
Includes floor mat package and cargo package. (about 210 to msrp)
36 month lease 12k miles
MSRP: 24985
Residual: .49
Residual: 12242.65
Cash down: 345: first month + license fee.
Sticker price: 22100
Rebate: 3150
MF: .00003
Fees:
Acq fee: 595.00
Doc Fee: 399
Gov fee: 135
Taxes: 1595.22 (not sure how this was done)
Total payment a month: 230.30
Few totals:
Total rebate (cash + rebate):3495
Total Fee: 1129
230 feels a bit high for this. Through my own calc I am getting 222 per month.
Please tell me where I went wrong?
I don't understand the tax, either - MA applies sales tax on a lease to the monthly payment.
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Thank you!
We don't have the incentive info.
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Deal check: in MA (sales tax 6.25)
Car: 2.6 S Special Edition:
Includes floor mat package and cargo package. (about 210 to msrp)
36 month lease 12k miles
MSRP: 24985
Residual: .49
Residual: 12242.65
Sticker price: 22100
Rebate: 3150
MF: .00003
cash down:
230 - first month (exclude from money down) or 230 was added as extra a month
115 - licences and fees
Fees:
Acq fee: 595.00
Doc Fee: 399
Gov fee: 135
Taxes: 1595.22 (not sure how this was done)
Total payment a month: 230.30
Few totals:
Total rebate (cash + rebate):3495
this includes the first months payment of 230. if we take that out i get 230 a month.
Total Fee: 1129
the net cap cost i got was ((sticker + 115) - 1129) = 19964
which then does go to 230 a month.
let me know if this is right or not, but i think this solves the issue?
I do not understand your math on the net cap cost: 22,100 + 115 - 1129 = 21,086, not 19,964
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Msrp: 24985
Sticker price: 22100
rebate: 3150
Fees:
Acq fee: 595.00
Doc Fee: 399
Gov fee: 135
First month: 230
Total: 1359
Cash down:
First month: 230
Licence and reg: 115
Total 345
Calculation:
(22100 + 1359) - (3150 + 345) = 19964
Net cap: 19964
Residual: .49
Residual: 12242.65
Monthly: 19964 – 12242.65 = 214.48
Money factor: .00003
Monthly money factor: 1.03
Total: 36
Taxes: 13.46
Total monthly: 214.48 + 1.03 + 13.46 = 228.97
Close enough to 230.36 which was the price we signed for.
I think that big tax number was reduce into the monthly payment and only charge for the net cap amount.
Thank you again for all the help and advice. as well as the time you put in to valid the deal,
I don't know if it is the best deal as we got quoted at 219 a month with 345 down with no numbers to back it up;. but i do know it is lower then most other dealerships we visited.
also please tell me if i did miss something, this deal is already done but i would like to learn from it for my next one!
cheers and thanks again!
Enjoy the new Altima and we'll see you back in 36 months when you're ready to work on the next lease!
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i also double checked the rebates offered and we have a 600 colledge grade rebate that i couldn't pick up. that was the only difference.
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