BMW European Delivery

saigonboi21

u know im not really sure. All i know is that you go to the dealership- order our cars and wait. I guess you then buy the tickets and fly over there (this should happen like 2 months after you order it). Then you pick up your car, drive it around if u want, then drop it off at the port. That's all i know. Im actually looking for someone to go to Munich with me. It'd be cool if we could order our cars and pick them up together. I dont speak the language there and have been tryin to get a friend to come along. I figured I would also save about $2k with ED. I found some roundtrip tickets at cheaptickets.com for about $700. Im plannin to order a 330i w/Premium and Steptronic. Still tryin to decide if I should also get the Sport package....thats all the info. i have so far.

530ir1150r

First, check BMW's web site, they have a European Delivery section.
Second, negotiate from invoice. It used to be on another web site. For estimate purposes, reduce Edmunds US invoice by 7%. Options are the same price, ED or local.
Third, see a dealer.
Fourth, confirm a delivery date before ordering airline tickets.

BMW will provide all the information you need except a passport. You will be responsible for your travel arrangements to the delivery center. Drop-off points are all over Europe.

Payment or financial arrangements are made 30 days in advance, (this may have changed to 15 days). This dictates the minimum time for delivery. US delivery can be affected by location, but averages 6-8 weeks. We dropped our car in London on July 16, 2002 and it arrived in Paducah, Ky on August 29, 2002.

I can only think of two downsides. You might make two payments before the car is in the US and the car buying process is drawn out; order the car, pay for the car, go to Munich to pick up, drop off somewhere, then delivery here. Trade-ins may be a third problem.

We EDed a Saab this summer. I recommend European Delivery for any manufacturer has a program.

selm

I passed on the Lufthansa deal as the Q-fare was more than double one ticket from all of the websites. I wished BMW would just give a stipend to offset the cost just like Saab does. I also waited until I had confirmation of the delivery date, just realize that some of the rock bottom fares will probably be gone by that time.

geo5

Has anyone heard when dealers can start taking orders for the 2006 325xit for ED--when I talk to a salesman they say they will check and I never hear from them again--also if anyone knows a good ED dealer in the NYC/CT area I would appreciate that

saigonboi21

hi i've been receiving quotes from dealers in the Bay Area. One dealer quoted me $500 above invoice plus floor mats on a 330i. Now im just trying to figure out financing...

530ir1150r

You can always use BMW Financial Services.

I was able to get loans arranged through our credit union once we had a VIN number which you will have before you pay for the vehicle (30 days before delivery).

selm

I am using BMWFS and they are requiring payment now 15 days ahead of time as opposed to 30 days.

khoon

I recently purcahsed an '06 525Xi. My deal was very simple - total ED price less $3,500. I don't believe its invoice, but its close. I placed the order about 2 months ago and requested an early Sept. delivery date - which has been confirmed.

I purchased an air + hotel package from Expedia (JFK to MUN with 4 nights in downtown MUC) for $850. I believe, good deals are still available thru Expedia and Priceline.

A question for ED veterans, how far is the BMW Delivery Center from Downtown Munich - can I take the subway to the Delivery Ctr? Also, how long does the delivery process take?

khoon

Hammer,

I am picking up a 525Xi on Sept. 9th. Could you tell me how far the BMW Delivery Ctr is from Munich Central Station - can I take the subway (S-Bahn???) to the BMW Delivery Ctr?

Also, I was planning to drive to Eagle's Nest, Salzberg, and Castle Neuschwanstein - any additional suggestions? I will have about 2-3 days in the region.

Thanks in advance.

530ir1150r

You can take the S-Bahn to near the Delivery Center directly from downtown. We stayed in the Olympic Park and had to go in two stops, switch trains and go out two stops. BMW will send you directions and a subway map.

The Delivery process will take 1-2 hours. All the paperwork is collected initially and you will get a voucher for their coffee shop (20 euros in 2002). You will have time to browse their gift shop and get something to eat before they page you to get your car. Whoever shows you your car will explain all the features and answer all your questions for as long as you want to stay.

Also, the Olympic Tower has a fantastic view of BMW's headquarters and the new Delivery Center construction site.

terp2k

The delivery center is actually on the U-Bahn, not the S-Bahn. From the airport, you can take the S-Bahn into town, and then change onto the U-Bahn (Subway). From downtown, head northbound on the U6 and get off at the Freimann stop. It's not a long trip at all. The info packet you receive (usually 1or 2 weeks before your pickup) has a folding map of the S-Bahn/U-Bahn system. This map also gives pretty good walking directions from Freimann to the Delivery Ctr. It's very easy, you'll be fine!

terp2k

Here's a link to a map of the U-Bahn/S-Bahn system. Freimann looks to be 9 stops from Marienplatz.

http://www.toytownmunich.com/archive/munich_ubahn_map.html

The Marriott is right by the Nordfriedhof U6 stop, and is 3 stops south of Freimann. The Lufthansa shuttle bus from the Airport conveniently stops at Nordfriedhof for 9.50 Euro/person. Hope this helps!

saper

Saigonboi21:

I plan on ordering a car (5-Series) via the ED program. I, too, live in the Bay Aea. You mentioned $500 above ED invoice. What dealer are you using?

saigonboi21

I have a friend who knows someone that works at BMW Fremont. He said he was able to do $500 above invoice. Im meeting up with him tomorrow (saturday). Like i said, if it's really $500 above, I will let you guys know after i meet up with him. I will get his contact information so you guys can call him.

khoon

Terp, 530ir

Thanks for your help - looking forward to the trip.

saigonboi21

Okay here's what i got from the dealer- $100 above invoice plus floor mats.
Alpine white 330i w/Zpp and Steptronic. OTD was $41,222. I didnt take it cus i
wanted BEIGE interior. The dude freaking forgot about it and gave me brown. So i
told him i'd think about it. I cant post the guy's name. He's an INternet/Fleet manager there. His name starts with an A. He's egyptian. Again this is at BMW of Fremont (Claridge). He's only doing that on that specific car. And he said he could order one for me but that would take 10-12 weeks. I would
rather do ED if that was the case. But yeah that's how it went. Hope someone
find this helpful.

saigonboi21

im tryin to choose between Premium Package or Sport Package+BMW assist w/bluetooth for a 330i. I was wondering if the leatherette is durable and which package i should go with. Please let me know your opinion. THanks

selm

I like the ette and have ordered it on mine. Personally, I think the sport package is the best option you can put on the 3. You get the nicer larger wheels. Not to mention the fact that the seats are far superior.

saigonboi21

thanks-i 've decided to go with the 'ette' also.

mchief

I am going to Munich already, and would like to Purchase a bmw325cic. It seems like many people are able to bargain with the dealer from 1200-1500 off invoice ED price. My problem is, I don't know what the ED invoice price IS for a a BMW 325cic. Any help on where to get this data would be awesome!! thanks

saigonboi21

wait a minute- $1200-1500 off ED INVOICE??? so if the ED invoice of a 325i is $26200, u can take another $1200-1500 off??? cus im about to buy one here. BUt if i can save another $1200-1500 i'd rather do ED. Is this correct though???

307web

I am sure it is a typo. He must have meant "over" not "off."

530ir1150r

Deduct 7% from the US Invoice and you will be close. Options are the same price here or ED.

buzz35

I am currently here in Germany and I purchased my 525xi, all options- sports, preimium pkg, comfort access(new), sunshades, prk dist., nav, upgraded tires for run flats got it for 46,300.
Anyway if you have the time there will be no experience like taking your new 5 out on the autobahn. You can take the train to anything in Munich everything is pretty close but it might be crowded if you wait until the end of Sept. OCTOBERFEST time down here.

gkrochmal

7% reduction to US invoice. Deliver charge is not part of invoice and is not reduced by any percent.

saigonboi21

i guess this forum is dead...nobody wanna do ED anymore?

zhpfan

Hello,

Can you tell me the ED invoice price for a 2006 330Ci. Is it essentially 8% less than the ED MSRP posted on www.bmwusa.com ?

Thanks

Phil

kyfdx

Base ED invoice is $3145 less than Base ED MSRP.

Invoice and MSRP prices for options are the same as for US delivery.. See KBB.com or Edmunds.com for those figures..

regards,
kyfdx

khoon

Thanks! Am really looking forward to the trip - am picking it up on 9/9, so it'll be before Octoberfest. Planning to drive to Eagle's Nest, Salzburg and Mad Ferdinand's castle - unless you can recommend a more interesting itinerary.

Congratulations on your deal! I paid $42,140 for 525Xi with premiun, cold weather, and auto. I seem to have over-paid by a few hundred dollars :mad:
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buzz35

I dont think you overpaid that is about the same price I was quoted when i looked stateside. Yes I rec. you go to Garmich it is right down the street and they have a American resort as well as a Nato one I have attached a link for you. This is up in the mountains very beautiful 30-40 min from Munich with the no speed limit rule maybe 20-30 min depends on you.
http://www.billetingoffice.de/english/info/b.html
this site takes you to a German/Nato resort that is very nice an inexpensive well I hope this helps.

saurav27

After reading lot's of article online and on BMW forums and negotiating with dealers here are my number's please feel free to post your suggestions on my deal with dealer for thanksgiving delivery.
BMW 325i Sedan
MSRP - $30,900
Metallic Paint - $475
Automatic - $1275
Xenon - $800
Navigation - $2000
Shipping - $695

Total MSRP - $36,145
ED MSRP - $33,980

I was talking to few dealer's around North East i got best offer from a dealer at $32,780 for ED.
This is my first BMW and most of the money is on loan so please let me know should i go ahead with ED for thanksgiving delivery or there is still room for negotiation. Do you think i am getting enough discount on ED price i.e $2165 + $1200 = $3365 on BMW 325i

I'm 27 year old and my above configuration reflects my need but please let me know what option i should add that help me to resell (in case) i have to do after few years.

fju7

$32,780 is $1650 over ED invoice. $1200 to $1500 over ED Invoice is not uncommon so you might be able to negotiate a few hundred more. Good luck.

hgeyer

My 2 cents: Ditch the Nav System and get the sport package.

nyccarguy

Ditch the Steptronic and the Nav system and got a stick with the sport package!

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Saurav27

We are considering ED as well and live in the North East US. Which dealer/s did you work with to get this offer.

Thanks!

huereguet

I'll be there on the 17th

Munich->
Prague->
Luxembourg->
Frankfurt->
Berlin->
Coppenhagen->
Hamburg->
Amsterdam->
Home

huereguet

I'm pretty psyched ... everything should be all set for a Oct. 17th pickup.
I ordered the car on Aug 25 - std/sports pkg/leather/arctic metallic.

I've got 2 questions:
1) Is doing 200+ kmh right out of the gate gonna damage the car ???
2) Anybody had a problem with minor damage (keying, shopping carts at stores, parking garage incidents with an ED ??

Someone was asking about driving instructions from Munich->Milan->Nice->Geneva ... check out this website for point to point directions: www.viamichelin.com

If you're doing this then make sure to stop in:
Munich->Bregenz->Vaduz->Ascona->Como->Milan (German route)
or
Munich->Salzburg->Innsbruck->Vaduz->Ascona->Como->Milan (Austrian route)

Mind you Florence is much nicer than Milan (dirty Italian industrial city)!!!

Then ...
Milan->Genova (quick stop - not too interesting)->Monaco (MUST SEE!!)->Nice

Unless you had to go to Geneva I'd skip it (spend more time in Ticino CH or Monte Carlo if you want) and go here instead:

Nice->Cannes->Marseille->straight through wine country (Lyon/Dijon)->Paris

If you ya wanna go to Geneva then go around Lake Geneva (stops in Montreux, Grimentz, Moos Alp) and head to Zermatt (2.5 hours from Geneva) or head through the Haute Savoie to Chamonix (go up the Aguille du Midi and check out Mont Blanc) and Grenoble.

I'D PLAN AT LEAST 1 WEEK PER LEG OF THIS TRIP :surprise:

Everything I've listed I've seen and can tell you more about
As for my ED trip -> I'm heading to Scandinavia !!

Any other fun trips ????????

jb_shin

I wouldn't worry about dings, dents, etc. in Germany, or even in Austria. I'd worry a LOT in Italy and a bit in France. In Germany, even a door dent is considered an accident and if you drove off without leaving a note and someone reported, the offender will be in for a hit-and-run. I parked in impossible, and I mean impossible places in Germany for 3 years and not a single scratch or dent.

530ir1150r

We did a Saab ED this summer. We still debate if we had one place to see again if it would be Skagen (Denmark) or Visby (Sweden). Visby has history, Skagen has a beach.

Oslo has the Munch Museum and an evening Prawn cruise. Stockholm has the Grand Hotel and Museums. Copenhagen has all the dirt of Paris with none of the charm. Odensse Classic was the best beer we found and it is only around Odensse, Denmark.

Scandic Motels are good road motels, the Scandic Upsalla may have had the best breakfast for our entire trip. Rica Hotels (?) had a free night with 4 paid nights this summer and they did not have to be the same motels/hotels. Other chains had similar promotions.

Scandanavia is bigger than it looks on maps. We put 1750 miles on our Saab from Trollhattan to Oslo, Lillehammer, Tandallan, Upsalla, Visby, Copenhagen, Skagen and Gothenburg. In 2002, we put 1900 miles on a 530i from Munich to Lucerne, Dijon, Paris, Cherbourg, Wexford, Tramore, Enis, Dublin, Sheffield and London.

Scandanavian countries are big on photo radar (they do warn you) and random sobriety checks (and I think their limit is 0.05). If you try the akavit, do not drive for awhile, especially if you also do the beer chaser.

hgeyer

Regarding your break-in question. I'd say to try to adhere to the break-in specs in your manual. If I recall (I had an E46 330 from 2002), that means keeping it under 90 mph and RPMs under 4,000 for the first few hundred miles - it may be slightly different for your car.

I'll admit that I took my car to 125mph after about one hundred miles. I made sure to keep the RPMs under 4,000 and my car didn't implode. Others may have a differing opinion, but the Autobahn is too damn tempting. If you want to drive fast, you may want to rent a car for a day if you're uncomfortable about damage to your vehicle.

selm

I just got back last night from my ED experience and I don't think I will ever buy a car any other way! You could tell that Harms and BMW had done this so many times that it was second nature for them. Both companies were more effecient and professional than any other car buying experience I have encountered. Ok, enough endorsement.

I picked up my Jet Black 325i with the sport package as the only option with black letherette. I was concerned that I would not like a car with that few options, that I would regret not getting the aluminum trim, and that the manual seats would be far worse than the power. Now that it is mine, I am so glad that I did not spend the money on all the other options, because it still feels sporty and luxurious, and was so much fun to drive and has everything you would want. The seats were easy to operate and I never adjusted them after my initial seating.

I feel almost bad for my car that it has to come back to crowded So Cal as she just loved the mountain roads of the alps, and the autobahn. I adheared to the break-in period in the manual <100 mph and <4500 rpm all of the time except for a time or two where I needed the added rpms to avoid trouble. This car does 95 like no other. I can't imagine driving this car at 65 on the freeway, its just not right! For anyone that has any reservations about driving in Germany, don't! This was my first time and I had a good map, my wife was an excellent navigator, and the signs and roads in Germany are flawless.

Hear was my itinerary:
Saturday (Sept 10) and Sunday in Munich. I would highly recommend the walking tours Munich offers and the various bus tours. I learned so much and it made the city come alive.
Monday - Picked up the car and drove to herinchimsee and then to Salzburg.
Tuesday - Did the Sound of Music tour and saw a classical concert in Salzburg.
Wednesday - Drove to Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau. After those castles, I went to a town called Oberstaufen. There is nothing to do there, but the drive was magnificent as it is in the alps and I took a few planned detours. I spent about 6 hours in my car that day but it was broken up by the castles so it didn't feel like too much.
Thursday - Stayed in Rothenburg o.d. Tauber. A charming medieval town where I got all of my shopping done. At 8:00, I saw the Night Watchman's tour, which was very entertaining. It is not as good as the ghost tour I experienced in York, UK, but was still very good.
Friday - Had to drop off my car. Stayed the night in Munich and flew home Saturday as the Oktoberfest crowd had arrived and that is just not my style.

All in all, an unbelievable experience that I would recommend.

-Selm

khoon

Our trips to the BMW center may have overlapped! I picked up a 525Xi on 9/9. I agree with you - its a great experience - I'm already toying with the idea of doing it again - soon!

Harms informed me that it would take 4-6 weeks for the car to get here (NYC), and that's their standard line. Have you heard what the average wait is to pick up the car in the New York area? The BMW Owner's Circle site says my car is still awaiting shipment.

selm

I will be doing it again as my wife says that is how she wants to get her next car. She wants the steel blue 3 series but they don't offer that color anymore. Hopefully they bring that color back in the next couple of years.

I don't know about time to NYC as mine has to go through the Panama canal. They are feeding me the line of 6-8 weeks, but the Harms representative told me that I was lucky in that my car was leaving Munich the afternoon I dropped it off. I am hoping 6 weeks is all as my Infiniti now drives like a pickup truck after tasting the 3!

nyccarguy

Did you buy or lease? Congrats on tha car...Beautiful!

selm

I leased this one as I have the terrible habit of getting sick of my cars after a couple of years. Somehow, I think that I wont have that issue with this one so it is very possible I might buy it out at the end.

nyccarguy

do you mind disclosing the terms of your lease? Mileage, months, cap cost... and total payment.

selm

Well unlike most people on these forums I didn't get the deal of the century. I did a 30000 mile, 36 month lease. I put no cap cost reduction but did pay the acquisition fee. So my total out of pocket was about 1800 (acq. fee + govt fees + security deposit + 1st months payment). They marked up the mf a little, and marked up the acq. fee a little bit so my "effective" price was MSRP (32595) less the ed discount less $500. My payment is 395 pre tax. This was pre-price increase and was under the June-August program.

Regards,
Selm

cth

I recently canceled European Delivery of a 760Li.

The reason I did so was because BMW, NA asked me to agree to terms that I thought were one sided and unfair.

The objectionable language is as follows:

No Liability For Collateral Expenses
BMW,NA shall not be liable for any expenses incurred by the customer in connection with the Customer's journey to the place of delivery including, but not limited to, travel, meals, accommodations, telephone calls, and the like while at the place of delivery; or penalties or cancellation fees for missed hotel and transportation reservations;or for increased costs of traveling in Europe or journeying from the place of delivery to the customer's residence regardless of whether any or all of such expenses may have been caused by BMW, NA's delay in delivery, non-delivery, or the customer's non-acceptance of the vehicle.
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If one pauses to think that for this cause to be invoked, you have a customer who paid for the car in advance and was promised delivery on a certain date, made travel arrangements, arrived at the factory and was unable to pick up his or her car. The clause above says not only can you not hold BMW accountable, they have no obligation to even pay for a phone call or taxi back to your hotel.

I go to the trouble to post this in hopes that other customers can be better informed than I was.

And yes, I am familiar with the European delivery program because I bought the most enjoyable car I have ever owned (a 1995 740iL) under that program.

In the most recent case, I got the final terms and conditions to sign after I had ordered the car, made travel arrangements, and paid for the vehicle.

I marked through the objectionable clause on the agreement, and got a call the next morning from the manager of European delivery. She told me the reasons for the clause and said they have a pool of 5 cars that they reserve in case of problems. The reasons she gave are failure of final quality inspection and foul-ups in paperwork. She noted that a woman had showed up at the factory the day before (9/14/2005), and did not have a car. The reason she did not was that after the order was made and the delivery date set, the dealer did not send in the final paperwork (probably the same &#147;Terms and Conditions&#148; BMW asked us to sign late in the process.) So BMW, NA canceled the order. Imagine how you would have felt if you had ordered the car, paid for it, planned a great vacation and been at the mercy of the company for any help in salvaging the situation, because you agreed beforehand no matter how badly the company erred, they had no obligation to you (note above, not even for a phone call to get you back to your hotel). If the example she gave was supposed to increase my comfort level, it missed the mark.

If BMW is going to take care of its customers who have a problem not of their making, why wouldn&#146;t they be explicit in saying what steps they can take in the unlikely event the customer&#146;s car is not ready? Secondly, why wouldn&#146;t BMW present the terms and conditions they want the customer to agree to early in the process (such as on the company&#146;s website under the European Delivery section) or in the initial order documents? Doing so would have saved me and BMW some heartache because I never would have ordered the car.

This approach to doing business is inconsistent with my image of the company.

khoon

I can relate to your disappointment with BMW's ED legalese! I too cringed when I reviewed the document and had exactly the same sentiments as yours. However, I took a leap of faith and enjoyed the ED experience immensely (as have several others). I wonder whether Mercedes and the others use similar draconian language in their agreements.

But I'm with you - its shameful how blatantly they seek to handicap you legally after you've decided to purchase their product.

khoon

Can someone comment on how long it takes BMW-NA to process and release the car to the dealer after it arrives at the port? My car is scheduled to arrive in NJ on Sept. 30th. I live in NJ and my dealer is here as well. The official line from BMWNA is that it takes them approx. 2 weeks to inspect and process the car before they hand it over to the dealer. I find this time frame a bit unrealistic.