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  • mdubdroid3mdubdroid3 Member Posts: 28
    Salesperson just thought I was crazy asking about the $5k lease cash lol. Would these unadvertised lease cash deals just be Incorporated into the "sales" prices for a quote and just not specifically called out? I saw an SXL, $42k MSRP, 38k online quoted selling price, am I really thinking I'll be able to get another $5k off with the lease cash? Just slightly confused how they work. Thanks! 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250

    Salesperson just thought I was crazy asking about the $5k lease cash lol. Would these unadvertised lease cash deals just be Incorporated into the "sales" prices for a quote and just not specifically called out? I saw an SXL, $42k MSRP, 38k online quoted selling price, am I really thinking I'll be able to get another $5k off with the lease cash? Just slightly confused how they work. Thanks! 

    Ideally, that's how is should work .... negotiate your best price, then apply the lease cash. That incentive doesn't come out of the dealers pocket, so they should be willing to pass it along to you.

    Remember that there are different incentives for purchase vs. lease, so the online price may include those incentives that wouldn't be eligible.

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  • brandytabbrandytab Member Posts: 9
    edited May 2016
    Hi! Looking at Sorento SLX 2WD V6. MSRP 42805 Sales Price: 37968 inc 210.00 doc fees. Not including taxes and etc.

    Also let's look at SX 2WD V6. MSRP: 38300 Sales Price: 35608, same as above inc 210 doc fees.

    Interested in payment, if possible? 24month lease OR 36 month lease is fine at 12/yr. Can I assume that I can figure the lease cash into the payment to arrive at a final payment?

    Located in Michigan.

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    brandytab said:

    Hi! Looking at Sedona SLX 2WD V6. MSRP 42805 Sales Price: 37968 inc 210.00 doc fees. Not including taxes and etc.

    Also let's look at SX 2WD V6. MSRP: 38300 Sales Price: 35608, same as above inc 210 doc fees.

    Interested in payment, if possible? 24month lease OR 36 month lease is fine at 12/yr. Can I assume that I can figure the lease cash into the payment to arrive at a final payment?

    Located in Michigan.

    Thanks!

    Sedona is the minivan; did you mean the Sorento?

    36/12 numbers:
    FWD SX V6 - .00137 and 58%. $3400 lease cash
    FWD SXL V6 - .00136 and 54%. $5100 lease cash

    24/12 numbers:
    FWD SX V6 - .00118 and 63%. $4500 lease cash
    FWD SXL V6 - .00125 and 59%. $6500 lease cash

    Lease cash can be used to offset the up front costs of the lease, or to lower the negotiated price.

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  • js06gvjs06gv Member Posts: 460
    This one may have been missed......

    Looking at Optima and Sorento. I just posted in Optima forum. Looking at SX & SXL, both 2-seat 2.0T FWD, at 36/12. If lease cash is much better at 24/12, may consider that too. Thanks @Michaell.

    Edit, I just remembered SX is v6 only. Let's add EX 2.0T to the mix and also quote SX v6.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    js06gv said:

    This one may have been missed......

    Looking at Optima and Sorento. I just posted in Optima forum. Looking at SX & SXL, both 2-seat 2.0T FWD, at 36/12. If lease cash is much better at 24/12, may consider that too. Thanks @Michaell.

    Edit, I just remembered SX is v6 only. Let's add EX 2.0T to the mix and also quote SX v6.

    24/12 numbers:
    SX V6 FWD - .00134 and 63%. $4500 lease cash
    EX 2.0T FWD - .00135 and 61%. $4500 lease cash
    SXL 2.0T FWD - .00129 and 58%. $6500 lease cash

    36/12 numbers:
    SX V6 FWD - .00154 and 58%. $3400 lease cash
    EX 2.0T FWD - .00151 and 56%. $3500 lease cash
    SXL 2.0T FWD - .00142 and 53%. $5100 lease cash

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  • njmatthewnjmatthew Member Posts: 12
    Do you have the numbers for the AWD SX, EX, and SXL in NJ? 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    edited May 2016
    njmatthew said:

    Do you have the numbers for the AWD SX, EX, and SXL in NJ? 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks!

    Which engine type - 3.3L V6 or 2.0T 4-cyl?

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  • njmatthewnjmatthew Member Posts: 12
    both. thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    Michaell said:

    njmatthew said:

    Do you have the numbers for the AWD SX, EX, and SXL in NJ? 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks!

    Which engine type - 3.3L V6 or 2.0T 4-cyl?
    njmatthew said:

    both. thanks!

    36/12 numbers:

    EX 2.0T - .00128 and 57%. $3500 lease cash
    EX V6 - .00132 and 59%. $3000 lease cash
    SX V6 - .00141 and 59%. $3400 lease cash
    SXL 2.0T - .00125 and 54%. $5100 lease cash
    SXL V6 - .00138 and 55%. $5100 lease cash

    Subtract 2% for 15K

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  • euphony010euphony010 Member Posts: 26
    edited May 2016
    Hello, 

    Can I get the MF and residual for both 2.0t and 3.3 v6 SXL AWD with Tech package? Northern VA area. 15k miles. Will the 24 month term ever beat 36 mos with the additional dealer cash above? 

    Theres a 2.0t dealer demo (never titled) in the area with 6k miles marked down pretty heavily. Will that affect the residual or how many miles they'll allow? 
     
    Thanks!!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250

    Hello, 

    Can I get the MF and residual for both 2.0t and 3.3 v6 SXL AWD with Tech package? Northern VA area. 15k miles. Will the 24 month term ever beat 36 mos with the additional dealer cash above? 

    Theres a 2.0t dealer demo (never titled) in the area with 6k miles marked down pretty heavily. Will that affect the residual or how many miles they'll allow? 
     
    Thanks!!

    24/15:
    2.0t - .00130 and 57%. $6500 lease cash
    V6 - .00144 and 58%. $6500 lease cash

    36/15
    2.0t - .00142 and 51%.
    V6 - .00153 and 53%
    $5100 lease cash

    You would have to run the numbers for both lease terms to see which is better.

    On the demo unit, the residual would be adjusted downward on a per mile basis. It is somewhere in the neighborhood of $.15-$.25 per mile

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  • euphony010euphony010 Member Posts: 26
    Michaell said:

    On the demo unit, the residual would be adjusted downward on a per mile basis. It is somewhere in the neighborhood of $.15-$.25 per mile

    Dealer refused to lease the demo. Claimed it had been marked as manager demo car for over a year, that the warranty had already started, and it's a complete pain in the [non-permissible content removed] for the dealer to get Kia to sell it as a new lease. I found a new identical car that's competitively priced at another dealer, so I'm not going to push it.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250

    Michaell said:

    On the demo unit, the residual would be adjusted downward on a per mile basis. It is somewhere in the neighborhood of $.15-$.25 per mile

    Dealer refused to lease the demo. Claimed it had been marked as manager demo car for over a year, that the warranty had already started, and it's a complete pain in the [non-permissible content removed] for the dealer to get Kia to sell it as a new lease. I found a new identical car that's competitively priced at another dealer, so I'm not going to push it.
    Apparently Kia isn't as used to leasing demos as other brands.

    But, probably for the best that you start with a low mileage unit.

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  • juubeekjuubeek Member Posts: 25
    Please post MF, residual and lease cash for Georgia:

    SXL V6 FWD 36/12
    SX V6 FWD 36/12
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    juubeek said:

    Please post MF, residual and lease cash for Georgia:

    SXL V6 FWD 36/12
    SX V6 FWD 36/12

    SXL V6 FWD 36/12 - .00152 and 54%. $5100 lease cash
    SX V6 FWD 36/12 - .00154 and 58%. $3400 lease cash

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  • earhereearhere Member Posts: 6
    edited May 2016
    Hi,

    Could i please have the following info?

    MF, residual and lease cash for:

    2016 LX AWD with 3rd row seat and convenience package

    -or-

    2016 LX V6 AWD

    36/12
    New Jersey

    Thanks !
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    earhere said:

    Hi,

    Could i please have the following info?

    MF, residual and lease cash for:

    2016 LX AWD with 3rd row seat and convenience package

    -or-

    2016 LX V6 AWD

    36/12
    New Jersey

    Thanks !

    LX 2.4 AWD - .00132 and 59%. $3300 lease cash
    LX V6 AWD - .00133 and 61%. $2600 lease cash

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  • earhereearhere Member Posts: 6
    Thanks. Do these lease cash offers also work for 2017 models?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985
    earhere said:

    Thanks. Do these lease cash offers also work for 2017 models?

    No

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  • jimmyohiojimmyohio Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    earhere said:

    Hi,

    Could i please have the following info?

    MF, residual and lease cash for:

    2016 LX AWD with 3rd row seat and convenience package

    -or-

    2016 LX V6 AWD

    36/12
    New Jersey

    Thanks !

    LX 2.4 AWD - .00132 and 59%. $3300 lease cash
    LX V6 AWD - .00133 and 61%. $2600 lease cash
    Does the $2,600 lease cash apply on the LX V6 FWD as well as the AWD?
  • jimmyohiojimmyohio Member Posts: 3
    I am going in tomorrow to negotiate a new Sorento lease. Could use some advice. Ultimately I would like to end up with a payment in the $350-375 range for a 3 year/12,000 mile per lease. Based on some early research it seems that I am most likely looking at an LX. I want the V6 engine for sure. I am also hoping to do a sign and drive (roll everything into the lease). The MSRP on an LX FWD with V6 is around $30,300. Local dealer is advertising their best price as $28,380. If we subtract the $2,600 lease cash from this we are at $25,700. Adding tax, fees, etc is my target payment of $350-375 feasible?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985
    edited May 2016
    jimmyohio said:

    Michaell said:

    earhere said:

    Hi,

    Could i please have the following info?

    MF, residual and lease cash for:

    2016 LX AWD with 3rd row seat and convenience package

    -or-

    2016 LX V6 AWD

    36/12
    New Jersey

    Thanks !

    LX 2.4 AWD - .00132 and 59%. $3300 lease cash
    LX V6 AWD - .00133 and 61%. $2600 lease cash
    Does the $2,600 lease cash apply on the LX V6 FWD as well as the AWD?
    Yes

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985
    jimmyohio said:

    I am going in tomorrow to negotiate a new Sorento lease. Could use some advice. Ultimately I would like to end up with a payment in the $350-375 range for a 3 year/12,000 mile per lease. Based on some early research it seems that I am most likely looking at an LX. I want the V6 engine for sure. I am also hoping to do a sign and drive (roll everything into the lease). The MSRP on an LX FWD with V6 is around $30,300. Local dealer is advertising their best price as $28,380. If we subtract the $2,600 lease cash from this we are at $25,700. Adding tax, fees, etc is my target payment of $350-375 feasible?

    .00134 MF and 60% residual. $2600 lease cash.

    If $25,700 was the CAP cost, then $268/mo.

    But, their best price might include purchase incentives that aren't applicable to a lease.

    Still, $350-$375 should be achievable on that model.

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  • earhereearhere Member Posts: 6
    Thanks for all the great info here. I have another question:

    Residual and MF for a 2017 LX AWD with convenience package and 3rd row seat.
    48/12 in NJ
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    earhere said:

    Thanks for all the great info here. I have another question:

    Residual and MF for a 2017 LX AWD with convenience package and 3rd row seat.
    48/12 in NJ

    4-cylinder or V6?

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  • jimmyohiojimmyohio Member Posts: 3
    kyfdx said:

    jimmyohio said:

    I am going in tomorrow to negotiate a new Sorento lease. Could use some advice. Ultimately I would like to end up with a payment in the $350-375 range for a 3 year/12,000 mile per lease. Based on some early research it seems that I am most likely looking at an LX. I want the V6 engine for sure. I am also hoping to do a sign and drive (roll everything into the lease). The MSRP on an LX FWD with V6 is around $30,300. Local dealer is advertising their best price as $28,380. If we subtract the $2,600 lease cash from this we are at $25,700. Adding tax, fees, etc is my target payment of $350-375 feasible?

    .00134 MF and 60% residual. $2600 lease cash.

    If $25,700 was the CAP cost, then $268/mo.

    But, their best price might include purchase incentives that aren't applicable to a lease.

    Still, $350-$375 should be achievable on that model.
    Kia is offering $1,500 customer cash on the Sorento. Can this be used on a lease in addition to the lease cash or is the $1,500 strictly for purchases?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    jimmyohio said:

    kyfdx said:

    jimmyohio said:

    I am going in tomorrow to negotiate a new Sorento lease. Could use some advice. Ultimately I would like to end up with a payment in the $350-375 range for a 3 year/12,000 mile per lease. Based on some early research it seems that I am most likely looking at an LX. I want the V6 engine for sure. I am also hoping to do a sign and drive (roll everything into the lease). The MSRP on an LX FWD with V6 is around $30,300. Local dealer is advertising their best price as $28,380. If we subtract the $2,600 lease cash from this we are at $25,700. Adding tax, fees, etc is my target payment of $350-375 feasible?

    .00134 MF and 60% residual. $2600 lease cash.

    If $25,700 was the CAP cost, then $268/mo.

    But, their best price might include purchase incentives that aren't applicable to a lease.

    Still, $350-$375 should be achievable on that model.
    Kia is offering $1,500 customer cash on the Sorento. Can this be used on a lease in addition to the lease cash or is the $1,500 strictly for purchases?
    Our guess is that the $1500 is for purchases only and can't be combined with the lease cash.

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  • earhereearhere Member Posts: 6
    Michaell said:
    Thanks for all the great info here. I have another question: Residual and MF for a 2017 LX AWD with convenience package and 3rd row seat. 48/12 in NJ
    4-cylinder or V6?
    4 cylinder. Thanks. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    earhere said:


    Michaell said:

    earhere said:

    Thanks for all the great info here. I have another question:

    Residual and MF for a 2017 LX AWD with convenience package and 3rd row seat.
    48/12 in NJ

    4-cylinder or V6?

    4 cylinder. Thanks. 

    .00125 and 52%. $2500 lease cash

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  • cooklawcooklaw Member Posts: 7
    May I please have the mf, residual and lease cash 36/12 on the Sorento SXL for Texas.
    3.3L V6 FWD

    The 2017s are on the lot now here. I saw car connection said lease cash was now $4K on the SXL. Fine print said could not be combined w $1500 but could be combined w military, grad and loyalty. Didn't see the loyalty incentive anywhere but the veteran and grad cash are on their site. I'm guessing holdback has increased as well because my local dealer is advertising $5K off standard MSRP and then adding $1500 cash back on top of that for purchase.

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985
    cooklaw said:

    May I please have the mf, residual and lease cash 36/12 on the Sorento SXL for Texas.
    3.3L V6 FWD

    The 2017s are on the lot now here. I saw car connection said lease cash was now $4K on the SXL. Fine print said could not be combined w $1500 but could be combined w military, grad and loyalty. Didn't see the loyalty incentive anywhere but the veteran and grad cash are on their site. I'm guessing holdback has increased as well because my local dealer is advertising $5K off standard MSRP and then adding $1500 cash back on top of that for purchase.

    Thanks

    .00152 MF and 54% residual. $5100 lease cash

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  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    Hi everyone! Can I get the numbers on a 2016 Sorento SX 2.0T AWD and the V6 models in MA for 24/12 and 36/12? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    raymos24 said:

    Hi everyone! Can I get the numbers on a 2016 Sorento SX 2.0T AWD and the V6 models in MA for 24/12 and 36/12? Thanks!

    Only the V6 is available on the SX trim level.

    24/12 - .00124 and 64%. $4500 lease cash
    36/12 - .00141 and 59%. $3400 lease cash

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  • zac31zac31 Member Posts: 19
    edited June 2016
    Can I get the numbers for Kia Sorento 2016 3.3 EX. 12/36 South NJ. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985
    zac31 said:

    Can I get the numbers for Kia Sorento 2016 3.3 EX. 12/36 South NJ. Thank you.

    Assuming AWD?

    .00132 MF and 59% residual. $3000 lease cash

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  • mdubdroid3mdubdroid3 Member Posts: 28
    can i get June numbers for EX/SX RWD/AWD 24/10 and 36/12 for Bay Area?? Thanks!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985

    can i get June numbers for EX/SX RWD/AWD 24/10 and 36/12 for Bay Area?? Thanks!!

    Assuming V-6 for the EX
    24/12, as no 24/10 option is available.

    EX FWD:
    .00115 MF and 63% residual. $4000 lease cash
    .00130 MF and 58% residual. $3000 lease cash
    EX AWD:
    .00118 MF and 64% residual. $4000
    .00132 MF and 59% residual. $3000
    SX FWD:
    .00118 MF and 63% residual. $4500
    .00137 MF and 58% residual. $3400
    SX AWD:
    .00124 MF and 64% residual. $4500
    .00141 MF and 59% residual. $3400

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  • packerfan79packerfan79 Member Posts: 14
    Looking for MF, residual and lease cash for EX v6 and SX v6 awd in Wisconsin. thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985

    Looking for MF, residual and lease cash for EX v6 and SX v6 awd in Wisconsin. thanks.

    36/12:

    EX: .00132 MF and 59% residual. $3000 lease cash
    SX: .00141 MF and 59% residual. $3400 lease cash

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  • packerfan79packerfan79 Member Posts: 14
    Also came across a remaining 2016 SXL in Wisconsin. Can you provide mf/rv and any lease cash for the SXL? Thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250

    Also came across a remaining 2016 SXL in Wisconsin. Can you provide mf/rv and any lease cash for the SXL? Thanks again.

    I'll assume AWD.

    .00138 and 55% for 36/12. $5100 lease cash.

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  • bdudish23bdudish23 Member Posts: 16
    What does the lease cash consist of?  Are these hidden dealer incentives?  I don't see these listed on the Kia website or local dealer sites.  Are they the same in NY?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    bdudish23 said:

    What does the lease cash consist of?  Are these hidden dealer incentives?  I don't see these listed on the Kia website or local dealer sites.  Are they the same in NY?

    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive; dealer can choose to pass it to the customer, in whole or in part.

    Use the knowledge to negotiate your best deal.

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  • murr555murr555 Member Posts: 5
    Hello, I would really appreciate your thoughts on the following deal in upstate NY for the following lease on a 2016 LX AWD.

    36 months
    15,000 miles per year

    MSRP = $33,145
    Selling price = 31,742
    Taxes = $2,784
    registration & fees = $148

    $3,000 COD
    $316.28 per month

    Thanks for the help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    murr555 said:

    Hello, I would really appreciate your thoughts on the following deal in upstate NY for the following lease on a 2016 LX AWD.

    36 months
    15,000 miles per year

    MSRP = $33,145
    Selling price = 31,742
    Taxes = $2,784
    registration & fees = $148

    $3,000 COD
    $316.28 per month

    Thanks for the help!

    The tax amount seems high - in NY, tax is applied to the sum of the payments, not the entire selling price.

    And, is this the 4-cylinder or the V6? Numbers are different.

    I'd ask the dealer for a full accounting of the $3K due at signing .. the acquisition fee and first payment need to be accounted for, as well.

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  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    Hi Everyone! I am going to be negotiating a 2016 2.0T SXL AWD soon for my father and wanted to know the numbers for 24/12 (I don't think Kia does a 24/10) and 36/10 & 12.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,985
    raymos24 said:

    Hi Everyone! I am going to be negotiating a 2016 2.0T SXL AWD soon for my father and wanted to know the numbers for 24/12 (I don't think Kia does a 24/10) and 36/10 & 12.

    KIA has regional numbers. Need to know which state.

    And, you are correct, 12K/yr is the lowest allowance on a 24 month lease.

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  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    kyfdx said:
    Hi Everyone! I am going to be negotiating a 2016 2.0T SXL AWD soon for my father and wanted to know the numbers for 24/12 (I don't think Kia does a 24/10) and 36/10 & 12.
    KIA has regional numbers. Need to know which state. And, you are correct, 12K/yr is the lowest allowance on a 24 month lease.
    My apologies! I am in Massachusetts. 
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