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  • cellicecellice Member Posts: 53
    Interested in lease rates for 2016 Kia Sorento SX v6 and SXL v6 AWD. I'm interested in both 24 and 36 month at 10K

    I appreciate help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    cellice said:
    Interested in lease rates for 2016 Kia Sorento SX v6 and SXL v6 AWD. I'm interested in both 24 and 36 month at 10K I appreciate help!
     What state is this for? Kia numbers are regional. 

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  • cellicecellice Member Posts: 53
    Michaell said:


    cellice said:

    Interested in lease rates for 2016 Kia Sorento SX v6 and SXL v6 AWD. I'm interested in both 24 and 36 month at 10K

    I appreciate help!

     What state is this for? Kia numbers are regional. 

    MD
  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    Looking for info for Charlotte, NC. 24 month 12k and 15k miles. Two different options on the Kia website, what should I negotiate? I want to put zero down, I have 800+ credit:

    2016 Sorento (Model #73422)
    $1,999 due at lease signing including
    $269 first monthly payment,
    $1,135 capitalized cost reduction,
    $595 acquisition fee, plus tax, title, license and registration fees, dealer conveyance fee, processing fee or optional service fee and any emission testing charge.
    No security deposit required.
    Offer shown total lease payments are $8,186.
    residual value of $18,492.80.
    12,000 miles/year
    $400 termination fee
    MSRP $28,895,
    includes freight, excludes taxes, title, license, additional options and retailer charges



    2016 Sorento (Model #73222)
    1,999 due at lease signing including
    $252 first monthly payment,
    $1,152 capitalized cost reduction,
    $595 acquisition fee, plus tax, title, license and registration fees, dealer conveyance fee, processing fee or optional service fee and any emission testing charge.
    No security deposit required.
    Offer shown total lease payments are $7,795.
    residual value of $16,798.90.
    12,000 miles/yea
    $400 termination fee.
    MSRP $27,095
    includes freight, excludes taxes, title, license, additional options and retailer charges).
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    mcmayber1 said:

    Looking for info for Charlotte, NC. 24 month 12k and 15k miles. Two different options on the Kia website, what should I negotiate? I want to put zero down, I have 800+ credit:

    2016 Sorento (Model #73422)
    $1,999 due at lease signing including
    $269 first monthly payment,
    $1,135 capitalized cost reduction,
    $595 acquisition fee, plus tax, title, license and registration fees, dealer conveyance fee, processing fee or optional service fee and any emission testing charge.
    No security deposit required.
    Offer shown total lease payments are $8,186.
    residual value of $18,492.80.
    12,000 miles/year
    $400 termination fee
    MSRP $28,895,
    includes freight, excludes taxes, title, license, additional options and retailer charges



    2016 Sorento (Model #73222)
    1,999 due at lease signing including
    $252 first monthly payment,
    $1,152 capitalized cost reduction,
    $595 acquisition fee, plus tax, title, license and registration fees, dealer conveyance fee, processing fee or optional service fee and any emission testing charge.
    No security deposit required.
    Offer shown total lease payments are $7,795.
    residual value of $16,798.90.
    12,000 miles/yea
    $400 termination fee.
    MSRP $27,095
    includes freight, excludes taxes, title, license, additional options and retailer charges).

    Those aren't offers; they are promotions. You should be able to do better with good negotiation.

    Also, we don't recommend making a cap cost reduction on a lease - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose the money.

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  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    I asked the dealer for a quote for a 24 months, zero down, 15k miles on the base model Kia Sorento. He replied with $359.99 a month. Can you tell me the rates for a 15k mile, 24 month base model 2016 Sorento (Model #73422)? I am waiting on his reply for the numbers he used for this quote.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    edited February 2016
    mcmayber1 said:

    I asked the dealer for a quote for a 24 months, zero down, 15k miles on the base model Kia Sorento. He replied with $359.99 a month. Can you tell me the rates for a 15k mile, 24 month base model 2016 Sorento (Model #73422)? I am waiting on his reply for the numbers he used for this quote.

    What state is this? Kia numbers are regional.

    What trim level is this? LX? What engine? FWD or AWD?

    EDIT - you want to negotiate the selling price for a lease, just like you would for a purchase.

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  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    NC, LX trim, 4 cyl, FWD.
  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    I've got three responses from 3 dealers:
    Dealer #1:
    $3500 lease cash, 0.00074 MF, $27820 MSRP, $16692 Residual, 15k miles/yr, and $500 down. He said $469/ mth..This doesn't add up to me... thoughts?
    Dealer #2:
    $2000 rebate, residual value $15572, idk MSRP, idk MF, 15k miles/yr, zero down, $530's a month.
    Dealer #3
    Zero down, 15k miles/year, 24 months, $359/month.

    So, with the lack of information from the dealers, I'm looking at a $359 to $530 swing...wow.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    mcmayber1 said:

    NC, LX trim, 4 cyl, FWD.

    24/15 lease numbers are .00074 and 60%, $3500 lease cash.

    36/15 numbers are .00054 and 55%, $2000 lease cash.

    You want to negotiate the best selling price for the lease; the only two variables are the price and the MF (dealer is allowed to mark it up by as much as .00040 for extra profit).

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    mcmayber1 said:

    I've got three responses from 3 dealers:
    Dealer #1:
    $3500 lease cash, 0.00074 MF, $27820 MSRP, $16692 Residual, 15k miles/yr, and $500 down. He said $469/ mth..This doesn't add up to me... thoughts?
    Dealer #2:
    $2000 rebate, residual value $15572, idk MSRP, idk MF, 15k miles/yr, zero down, $530's a month.
    Dealer #3
    Zero down, 15k miles/year, 24 months, $359/month.

    So, with the lack of information from the dealers, I'm looking at a $359 to $530 swing...wow.

    No enough information to evaluate any of those offers.

    You'll need the MSRP and the selling price or net cap cost from each dealer. Then we can plug those numbers in with the MF and residual (see post above) to calculate a payment.

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  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    ...then I'm assuming the numbers they worked out were using MSRP as the net cap cost....Question: does any lease cash come off the net cap cost after it is negotiated? So a MSRP of $30k, negotiated down to $26k, and lease cash of $2k. My net cap cost would be $24k?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    mcmayber1 said:
    ...then I'm assuming the numbers they worked out were using MSRP as the net cap cost....Question: does any lease cash come off the net cap cost after it is negotiated? So a MSRP of $30k, negotiated down to $26k, and lease cash of $2k. My net cap cost would be $24k?
    That is correct. 

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  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    Here's what I have going... $16335 residual (60%), .00074 money factor, $21819 cap cost (which is 93% of $27225 msrp minus $3500 lease cash). 24 month 15k miles per year.total with tax ($300 for SC) tag and title (roughly $45) and dealer fee ($699) payment is 321.71. Does this come out right?

    Where is there to negotiate?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    mcmayber1 said:

    Here's what I have going... $16335 residual (60%), .00074 money factor, $21819 cap cost (which is 93% of $27225 msrp minus $3500 lease cash). 24 month 15k miles per year.total with tax ($300 for SC) tag and title (roughly $45) and dealer fee ($699) payment is 321.71. Does this come out right?

    Where is there to negotiate?

    Are you paying the taxes and fees up front, or are you adding them into the cap cost?

    As it stands, I get $257/mo for 24 months using those numbers.

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  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    Adding the taxes and fees to the cap cost. So around $1000
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    mcmayber1 said:

    Adding the taxes and fees to the cap cost. So around $1000

    Which would add about $42/mo to your payment, or $299/mo. Closer, but still about $450 difference.

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  • cbo2016cbo2016 Member Posts: 2
    Can you provide numbers for 2016 SX V6 AWD, 36/10, in Iowa? Also, I am getting an offer of $430 per month with only 1st payment down. Msrp is $41295 and selling price of $35323. Does Kia Financial offer MSDs?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    cbo2016 said:

    Can you provide numbers for 2016 SX V6 AWD, 36/10, in Iowa? Also, I am getting an offer of $430 per month with only 1st payment down. Msrp is $41295 and selling price of $35323. Does Kia Financial offer MSDs?

    .00095 and 60%. $2000 lease cash.

    I get $350/mo plus tax with those numbers.

    What is the net cap cost?

    Kia does not offer MSDs.

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  • mcmayber1mcmayber1 Member Posts: 10
    Reporting back with what I ended up with.
    I appreciate your help. 
    Sticker price $29845
    Msrp $27225 (LX 4cyl)
    24 month 15,000 miles per year
    Negotiated price $24919 plus $3500 lease cash
    Cap cost $21419
    60% residual $16335
    MF  .00074
    Zero down other than 1st months payment
    Fees added to cap cost:
    $595 acquistion fee and $699 dealer fee. Tax tag title registration.
    $304 a month. 
  • samny1samny1 Member Posts: 125
    Hi,

    Could you please give me the RV and MF on a Sorento EX V-6 AWD with premium package for 36 months at 12K in NY? Is there a difference in the numbers if it is an EX without the V-6?

    Thanks,

    Stephen
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    mcmayber1 said:

    Reporting back with what I ended up with.
    I appreciate your help. 
    Sticker price $29845
    Msrp $27225 (LX 4cyl)
    24 month 15,000 miles per year
    Negotiated price $24919 plus $3500 lease cash
    Cap cost $21419
    60% residual $16335
    MF  .00074
    Zero down other than 1st months payment
    Fees added to cap cost:
    $595 acquistion fee and $699 dealer fee. Tax tag title registration.
    $304 a month. 

    Congrats - looks like a solid deal.

    Enjoy your new Kia!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    samny1 said:

    Hi,

    Could you please give me the RV and MF on a Sorento EX V-6 AWD with premium package for 36 months at 12K in NY? Is there a difference in the numbers if it is an EX without the V-6?

    Thanks,

    Stephen

    EX V6 AWD - .00080 and 59%
    EX 4-cyl AWD - .00044 and 57%

    $2000 lease cash.

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  • plovelettaploveletta Member Posts: 17
    Hi can you tell me if this is a good deal, my credit score is in 620 range. Could get a better deal if I had a cosigner with the same credit score but more payment history? Also what would the mf be for credit score of 646? I am thinking of waiting until my credit score increases.

    2016 Sorento SX AWD V6
    Msrp 40,100
    Negotiated price: 32586
    Down payment $4000 plus 1st month $389
    Monthly payment $389
    36months/12,000 miles/yr
    Money factor: 0.00319
    Residual: 60%
    They will throw in 3 years of free oil change service

    Just found out I have to pay first month payment on top of the downpayment, I thought it would've been included.

    Thank You for your help !

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177

    Hi can you tell me if this is a good deal, my credit score is in 620 range. Could get a better deal if I had a cosigner with the same credit score but more payment history? Also what would the mf be for credit score of 646? I am thinking of waiting until my credit score increases.

    2016 Sorento SX AWD V6
    Msrp 40,100
    Negotiated price: 32586
    Down payment $4000 plus 1st month $389
    Monthly payment $389
    36months/12,000 miles/yr
    Money factor: 0.00319
    Residual: 60%
    They will throw in 3 years of free oil change service

    Just found out I have to pay first month payment on top of the downpayment, I thought it would've been included.

    Thank You for your help !

    What state is this? Kia numbers are regional.

    We don't recommend making a down payment on a lease; if the car is stolen or totaled, the money is lost.

    Lease inception costs include the first payment, bank fee, dealer fee and any DMV or license costs.

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  • plovelettaploveletta Member Posts: 17
    Sorry this is  N.Y... 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177

    Hi can you tell me if this is a good deal, my credit score is in 620 range. Could get a better deal if I had a cosigner with the same credit score but more payment history? Also what would the mf be for credit score of 646? I am thinking of waiting until my credit score increases.

    2016 Sorento SX AWD V6
    Msrp 40,100
    Negotiated price: 32586
    Down payment $4000 plus 1st month $389
    Monthly payment $389
    36months/12,000 miles/yr
    Money factor: 0.00319
    Residual: 60%
    They will throw in 3 years of free oil change service

    Just found out I have to pay first month payment on top of the downpayment, I thought it would've been included.

    Thank You for your help !

    Sorry this is  N.Y... 

    36/12 lease numbers for the SX AWD V6 are .00079 and 59%. .00319 MF for tier 7 (620-639).

    646 credit score would lower the MF to .00199.

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  • samny1samny1 Member Posts: 125
    Michaell said:

    samny1 said:

    Hi,

    Could you please give me the RV and MF on a Sorento EX V-6 AWD with premium package for 36 months at 12K in NY? Is there a difference in the numbers if it is an EX without the V-6?

    Thanks,

    Stephen

    EX V6 AWD - .00080 and 59%
    EX 4-cyl AWD - .00044 and 57%

    $2000 lease cash.
    Thank you.
  • vlady15vlady15 Member Posts: 25
    Hi, can you tell me residual, MF, and any lease cash available for 2016 Sorrento SXLimited 6cyl AWD. State: Maryland

  • vlady15vlady15 Member Posts: 25
    vlady15 said:

    Hi, can you tell me residual, MF, and any lease cash available for 2016 Sorrento SXLimited 6cyl AWD. State: Maryland

    I forgot to mention, this is for 36/10k or 36/12k lease.
    Also does kia allows MSD?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    vlady15 said:

    vlady15 said:

    Hi, can you tell me residual, MF, and any lease cash available for 2016 Sorrento SXLimited 6cyl AWD. State: Maryland

    I forgot to mention, this is for 36/10k or 36/12k lease.
    Also does kia allows MSD?
    36/12 numbers - .00062 and 55%. Add 1% for 10K.

    $3000 lease cash.

    Kia does not have an MSD program.

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  • jdwinnycjdwinnyc Member Posts: 12
    Hello, can you provide the MF and residual for metro NYC (and northern NJ) for a 2016 Kia Sorento Limited 4cyl Turbo, 36 months, 10k miles per year.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    jdwinnyc said:

    Hello, can you provide the MF and residual for metro NYC (and northern NJ) for a 2016 Kia Sorento Limited 4cyl Turbo, 36 months, 10k miles per year.

    I'll assume AWD, based on your location.

    .00010 and 54%. $3000 lease cash.

    Numbers expire today, 2/29/16

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  • tmacpolotmacpolo Member Posts: 6
    I am at work, so I don't have all the numbers but I have been offered 0 down, 300 per month for 36 mo. On a 2016 Kia Sorento. Live in as. 12k miles yr. 27700 Msrp.  Does this sound like a good deal or do you think I can get them lower. They are pushing to do deal today as national ad is thru feb and its the last day of the month
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    tmacpolo said:

    I am at work, so I don't have all the numbers but I have been offered 0 down, 300 per month for 36 mo. On a 2016 Kia Sorento. Live in as. 12k miles yr. 27700 Msrp.  Does this sound like a good deal or do you think I can get them lower. They are pushing to do deal today as national ad is thru feb and its the last day of the month

    We would need to know the selling price or net cap cost to figure a payment.

    What trim level? Engine? AWD or FWD? So many variations of the Sorento, all of which have different lease numbers.

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  • tmacpolotmacpolo Member Posts: 6
    Sorry, don't have all the numbers but it is an lx, msrp 27700. White tan seats
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    tmacpolo said:

    Sorry, don't have all the numbers but it is an lx, msrp 27700. White tan seats

    I-4 or V6? FWD or AWD? What state?

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  • tmacpolotmacpolo Member Posts: 6
    Sorry, I don't know how to add this to the first two messages but the selling price/net cap cost is 23671.50. Front wheel drive 4 cylinder 
  • tmacpolotmacpolo Member Posts: 6
    Arizona
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    36/12 for Sorento LX FWD I-4 - .00054 and 57%. $2000 lease cash, which you can use to lower the selling price of the vehicle.

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  • tmacpolotmacpolo Member Posts: 6
    is lease cash the rebate? He said that was included in the price he quoted
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    tmacpolo said:

    is lease cash the rebate? He said that was included in the price he quoted

    Lease cash can be treated like a rebate and used to discount the transaction price further.

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  • tmacpolotmacpolo Member Posts: 6

    Do we know what the residuals (12k per year, 10 as well if it is an option), rebates and money factors are yet moving forward now that February has passed.  If not, when are they typically released.  If they are not out, are the numbers from Feb. still good for a few days? The vehicle I am inquiring about is a Kia Sorento, FWD, automatic, 4 cyl, LX.  White with tan cloth interior. MSRP 27,700.

  • ashenmoralityashenmorality Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2016
    I appreciate the hard work you guys do to help us out! I know its soon, but can I ask for the Residual, MF, and rebates for 24 months on a 2016 Sorento SXL AWD V6 and then the turbo 4 (both with tech package) for 12k miles. Sorry in Denver, CO
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    tmacpolo said:

    Do we know what the residuals (12k per year, 10 as well if it is an option), rebates and money factors are yet moving forward now that February has passed.  If not, when are they typically released.  If they are not out, are the numbers from Feb. still good for a few days? The vehicle I am inquiring about is a Kia Sorento, FWD, automatic, 4 cyl, LX.  White with tan cloth interior. MSRP 27,700.

    We have some numbers for Kia in March ... but, only certain regions. What state is this?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177

    I appreciate the hard work you guys do to help us out! I know its soon, but can I ask for the Residual, MF, and rebates for 24 months on a 2016 Sorento SXL AWD V6 and then the turbo 4 (both with tech package) for 12k miles. Sorry in Denver, CO

    No CO numbers yet for March, sorry.

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  • wpb5wpb5 Member Posts: 17
    Hi guys,
    Can I please have MF, RV and cash rebates 36/12 lease, EX V6 FWD , state of Florida,
    Thank you 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,177
    wpb5 said:

    Hi guys,
    Can I please have MF, RV and cash rebates 36/12 lease, EX V6 FWD , state of Florida,
    Thank you 

    Sorry, no Florida numbers yet for March.

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  • familyguy12familyguy12 Member Posts: 5
    Hi!

    Are March numbers available yet for Sorento SX V6 AWD for 36mo/12K/year and 24mo/12K/year leases in Washington state? Top tier credit.

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,873

    Hi!

    Are March numbers available yet for Sorento SX V6 AWD for 36mo/12K/year and 24mo/12K/year leases in Washington state? Top tier credit.

    Thanks!

    .00108 MF and 60% residual. $2000 lease cash
    .00063 MF and 65% residual. $3000 lease cash

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