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Don't take it personally. There are tons of people who see it your way as opposed to seeing it my way.
Yeah thats true. I was told there is a little difference when you buy from your dealer. $225 in my case, that too covered by the auto financing doesn't really bother me much. When you buy from a dealer, then they will not give you less than $1000 for 7 yr/100000 miles. May be I am wrong, I donno.
Also, I'm still debating whether I NEED 4WD. We sometimes get quite a bit of snow but always managed with only FWD.
As for the AWD, is it safer even in the rain, and the extra value you will get when trading or selling it, makes it worth it. Same with the leather seats.
Always remember to check out in a 100 mile radius or so. Living where you do, I would also check KC and Overland Park, KS. Sometimes driving a little, saves you lots!
It's automatic transmission doesn't have a manual mode and it doesn't have a power driver seat. Did you look at Acura RDX or Mazda CX7?
They tried to push extra warranty, and GAP insurance, But I didn't take it.
I think you can get a good deal if you are persistent enough.
When we went to sign papers and give the deposit, the salesman came back to us and said there had been a mistake.
He gave us the price quote for a 2006, not 2007. I had the price quote paper in my hand, it said clearly 2007!
My husband immediately stood up and walked out the door. I don't know exactly what I said but I'm sure it wasn't nice. I was so angry, my cheeks must have turned beet red! The dealer said there was nothing he could do. Well,we drove off and I glanced over and saw the sales man running after our car. My husband stopped he though we might have left something there, but the salesman begged me to come inside and talk to his manager. To make a long story short, they we going to honor the original price quote but we declined. We didn't want to deal with salesmen and dealerships that do business like this. We drove off. We felt that even if we signed a contract for the price agreed upon, who is to say we would ever see the car. They said they would locate one and it would take a couple of weeks. We didn't trust them.
I guess I've learned my lesson - if it seems too good to be true, it is!
Today, I went locally (Mike Piazza Honda, Langhorne,PA) and put a deposit on my new 2007 EX 4WD CRV. $23,439 with destination. Not that bad - $1,206 under MSRP.
Planet Honda in Union, NJ - don't trust them!
Good deal for you.
Good Luck MNF
I still don't think this is all too great of a deal.
They are set on that price. They are however giving me $11,000 for a 2003 Windstar SEL fully loaded.
Any Suggestions?
Using the internet, I looked all over Houston and in Dallas for a deal, and Honda of Clear Lake was $900 lower than the other offers, even after the window etching cost.
I had to wait 2 weeks for my car, but this was fine. It had 7 miles on it when I picked it up, so no one was out "test driving" it before giving it a chance for a proper break-in. :shades:
After the deal was struck, the rest of the transaction was flawless.
It doesn't work. Not even for Corvettes where the owner pays a special fee for delivery at the Bowling Green (factory) museum. You still have to pay the destination fee just as if you had picked it up at your local dealer as well!
:mad:
By MICHELLE BRUNETTI For The Press
(Published: November 12, 2006)
The state has sued two owners of vehicle dealerships for alleged violations of the state Consumer Fraud Act and Motor Vehicle Advertising Regulations, claiming they harmed consumers by failing to disclose information, engaging in deceptive advertising, and failing to cancel contracts or pay off loans on trade-in vehicles.
The lawsuits were filed in state Superior Court in Camden and Union counties against the Berlin-based Chevrolet 73 and Chevrolet 73 Bargain Corral dealerships; and against Timco, Inc., owner of Planet Honda in Union County
Here is the link to the entire article:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/business/story/6926227p-6789421c.html
That is a fantastic price for a LX 2WD. For a new model, it just goes to show you what a sham "invoice" prices are.
I wanted to releate my experience with Fort Bend Honda (Gillman) of Rosenburg (Houston, TX area). On Black Friday. I went down to have my daughter test drive the CR-V. They only had 1 CR-V and after our drive, I was given a price of $22300 for a LX 2WD. I told them I only wanted to pay $400 over invoice.
They said no way so we left.
Ten minutes later I got a call on my cell phone and they informed me the manager said they could do the deal. I went back after lunch and found out that the deal had to include etching and sealant at $295 more (supposedly their cost). I should have walked out, but I was too tired from Black Friday morning shopping and did not necessarily want to drive out the Clear Lake Honda to see if they could do better. My daughter also had to pick a third choice color, silver, as supposedly they had no blue or reds coming in.
Anyway, it was $20,351 (including destination) with a drive out price of $21851 after TTL (about $700 above invoice) for a CR-V 2WD LX. I would suggest everyone list both sales price and drive out price. Edmunds lists about $20,800 for what others are paying in my area.
After your fantastic price, I wish I had held out for a bigger discount (they were not super busy). I have already signed a Buyer's Sales Order (no deposit left though), so I guess I am committed to getting this car.
Next time, I will just set a drive-out price and let the dealer worry about whether to take it or not. Goodluck to everyone else. Unlike me, do not trust whatever the salesman says (See sweesie's posting), get it in writing, and stick to your guns.
At first I thought they made a mistake and quoted me a price for the 2006 model but the quote said 2007. I went to the dealer and sure enough they honored the price. They did not have the color I wanted (silver), however they had one inbound. I put down a deposit and got the final price in writing (no add-ons whatsoever). Competition is fierce in the LA area so I'm sure that was a huge factor in the price. Enjoy your car!
Can you please send me the dealers name and phone number?? Also I would appreciate if you can give me the exact number which he gave you and your name as well, so that i can refer your name........
Thanks
Pavan.
The Ex-l is a popular vehicle (I think, I have also read that the supply situation of these vehicles is not good as production is hammered out. But you can't always believe what you read)
Solicit bids from 20-30 dealers toward the end of the month. Flexibility on colors and options is also helpful. Only one out of 8-12 dealers truly needs to sell a car to make his #'s EOM so 20-30 solicitations could provide about 13 responses and 2-5 true eager beavers. The fax method I find more useful although emails are easier for most people. The honda dealer locator makes this a snap. This is truly a competitive bidding situation. If not acceptable try again next month.
Your situation seems to be easier with no trade. Try to finance thru your own sources. The best deal you can get surveying all the shops within 400 miles is by definition a good deal.
The CRV wholesales about 6k from list 1st year, so even with $2000 off (400 under invoice) they are by no means giving it away.
Also, if you're into extended warranties honda is one of the few nameplates that seems to let their dealers compete on the internet. The hondacare warranty from myhondawarranty.com (Saccuci Honda) internet price is about $1100 for the 8yr/120k. Please don't get taken for 2000+ at the time of sale like so many do.
Happy Hunting
-Jim
So compared to me you did very well.
Although you are right about the negotiated price, I disagree with the statement "OTD price is meaningless".
Actually, OTD price is everything as that is what one has to pay to get the car. By working with a OTD price, you cut out the dealer's tatic of high priced add-ons and can remove some of his profit is some of the fees he adds on. Juding from mptlptr's price and jfritsh's comment ("The CRV wholesales about 6k from list 1st year"), there is lots of give in their price if they REALLY want to sell the car. That's why I suggested listing both for a true comparison.
An additional problem I see here in using the OTD price is that people often have a trade-in wrapped into that price. One more factor that we cannot universally understand without a lot more info, such as value, equity, etc. Not everyone has that same situation obviously. Someone may have an OTD price with a trade, someone else without, etc. I can tell you that I see a lot of people quoting what look like good OTD prices, only to find that there's a trade wrapped into it. Upon running the numbers, it looks like a lousy deal.
So, when people come here to compare their price with others nationwide, they either need to give the OTD price with all the details that go into it (which is probably not appropriate here) or give the effective selling price of the vehicle. That is the only way we can make a direct comparison, apples to apples.
Now as far as using OTD as a tactic with the dealer, that is fine, but makes it real easy for them to take advantage of the buyer. I much prefer to negotiate a hard price on the vehicle, a hard price on the trade, haggle over fees if necessary, and let my spreadsheet or calculator do the math for the OTD price. By only working the single OTD price, the buyer is more likely to give in one place but get taken in another. I encourage all buyers to make sure they understand each major component that goes into the OTD price, if they plan to use that as the negotiating point. It's important.
Your analysis might be appropriate for the Pilot and Accord sites as well since I've found it difficult to analyze the OTD figures provided there by people who seek comparisons. Thanks again and you made your contribution at 6am too. Take care. Ralph
Could you please forward the contact information of salesman you dealt with in Clear Lake Honda
to my mailbox in carspace? Thanks.
Personally, I don't want to drive 300 miles (one way) to strike a deal.
But if price different is around $1500-$1800 then maybe I'll still go for it.
2007 HONDA CR-V AWD - LX
MSRP - $22,395.00
YOUR PRICE - $20,900
+$1,358.50 - TAX
+$ 259.00 - LISCENSE
+$ 83.75 - TITLE AND DOC
TOTAL COST OUT-THE-DOOR = $22,601.25
Good deal?