2013 and Earlier - Mazda6 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • robalakamrobalakam Member Posts: 7
    I couldn't get any of the Mazda dealerships to come to a "reasonable " price for an 03 S with sports package. Also, last night I drove a 6S and the transmission was hesitating and it only had 64 miles. Too bad but maybe in a few years. I got a good price for the 2004 Accord EX -L at $265 below invoice and with extras at 50 % off Honda part costs. It does pay to do your homework and buy the last day of the year.
  • collockcollock Member Posts: 2
    I ended up buying a Silver Mazda6S no options for OTD 20,371. I ended up paying the TMV because I was looking at the OTD Cost and forgot that I should of reduced the OTD by 100 because I was trasnfering the tag so it cost 100 less. That was after I had the bank write the check. I should of gone line on each line item and double checked it. It was my own fault and it did not dawn on me till the next morning. I just wanted to finish it up as soon as possible and everthing at first appeared all right. But still $300 over Invoice plus $124 in closing cost plus 6% sales tax is not bad. Love the car it is fun to drive. The only thing I did not notice untill after I bought the care is the CD reciever. I wanted to put my after market player in the car, but I will have to buy a new dashboard to make it fit. Still it is worth it even though the factory player is good.
  • ezpasserezpasser Member Posts: 1
    Can anyone please let me know if there more than $2,500 rebates available for an '03 6? Dealers
    advertise $6,500 in total rebates and Edmunds has
    $5,500 total(but don't really detail requirements)
    When you go to the dealer they say $2,500, but
    there has to be more. No matter how nice they seem, they'll almost never tell you the full amount you can get in rebates. I'm thinking maybe
    between $4,000-$5,000 ?
  • buggywhipbuggywhip Member Posts: 188
    There's gotta me more than $2500 on a 2003. The dealer is hiding that info. Bring in web printouts.
  • bostongiobostongio Member Posts: 52
    Could Edmunds update their information on Mazda incentives (especially for the 6)? There are no details about exclusions and stuff on this page:

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/mazda/6/100339515/incentives.html- ?vdp=off&setzip=01701&state=MA&tid=edmunds.n.incentiv- esindex.incentives.3.5.Mazda*
  • rponsetirponseti Member Posts: 35
    Can someone tell me why the TMV for the 2004 comes up cheaper than the 2003? Is this accurate?
                                     
    Mazda 6I with Automatic tmv - 2003-$15947 2004-$15896

    That's for zip 70448.

    I'm so confused!!!! I was looking at getting a 2003 because the rebates were so much better. But now I can get a 2004 for less?
  • ramped1ramped1 Member Posts: 159
    Highly unlikely that you will pay more for an 03 than an 04 unless you leave your brain at home before you negotiate.

    Forget the TMV and just use common sense. You should get an 03 for under invoice less rebate. Add the fact that dealers have to be desperate to get 03s off the lot and there is no way you should pay anywhere near what an 04 of the same model will cost.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    Edmunds pricing for the 04 Mazda6 is goofy. It almost looks like they're taking off the old $1000 rebate and then taking off the new $1500 rebate too. This results in a great price, but it's obviously wrong.
  • cheesehead6cheesehead6 Member Posts: 68
    Goofy, yes, but they seem to have fixed it.

    Been getting e-mail bids on an '04 6i MT with a bunch of options from several dealers. Most have come in at about the Edmunds TMV price, leading me to suppose that they are now keying off it.
    I'd like to get a better deal-- more like $300 over invoice or better.

    If you have had a buying experience in the last few months, would you please tell me 1) whether my hopes are unrealistic and 2) what you ended up paying--expressed in dollars over invoice (before incentives & TTL)? I have no idea how well 6s are selling these days and, therefore, no clue as to how hungry the dealers might be

    Any other tips would be gratefully received.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    The last half of last year(2003)Mazda sold about 6000-6500 6's a month. Mazda sold 7,000 6's one month in the summer time.
  • likaglovlikaglov Member Posts: 82
    I'm thinking about buying an 04 M6s-AT with the S-plan. I know the $1500 rebate would come off of that price but what about the owner loyalty rebate? Has that expired or is that in play?

    Any other advice for/against S-plan purchases?

    Thanks in advance!
  • jgagnejgagne Member Posts: 5
    I have been emailing a local dealer about the 6s. She said in her last email that she would be getting back to me on feb 3rd with the new incentives. Anyone have any clue what they might be? Would these be the president day "deals"? I noticed yesterday on the Mazda website they were not listing a $1500 rebate on the "04 6, has it expired? Here at edmunds and at carsdirect it is still coming up as still in effect. The edmunds site says it expires in march. Are the president day "sales" usually worth waiting for? I am eager to get my new 6 but don't want to jump the gun and miss any new incentives mazda might be getting ready to offer.
  • jgagnejgagne Member Posts: 5
    A local dealer is offering me an "03 demo with 6000 miles at invoice, plus the $2500 rebate. I countered with $1000 below invoice plus the rebate. They said thanks buy no thanks, we are at a stale mate right now. The 6 has leather, moonroof, bose stereo, comfort package, side air bags, and floor mats. Is invoice plus rebate a good deal? Is $1000 below invoice plus rebate a good deal? My thoughts are the car is a year old with 6000 miles why should I pay invoice! Am i crazy or should I of offered even less?
  • ramped1ramped1 Member Posts: 159
    Your offer was generous, and your logic is correct. Why pay invoice for a nearly 2-year-old used car? The minute that thing crosses the curb, you are going to lose many thousands in equity. If the car had zero miles, a few hundred under invoice might be acceptable.

    The dealer is trying to get you to bail him out of a bad situation. Don't be tempted. You would be much better off making a deal around invoice on an 04 and taking the $1,500 rebate. Plus, the stain issue is hopefully resolved for the 04 models.

    As far as future incentives, no one, not even the dealers, will know until Mazda makes its announcement. But, considering that it is winter and sales are slow just about everywhere, the rebates should at least be as high as they are now, if not better.
  • jbhogenjbhogen Member Posts: 21
    6000 miles is a lot for a demo, maybe it was a loaner or a return? Price the car out using Edmunds appraisal tool, show the dealer the loss in value, then see what he says.
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    Since it's an '03 w/6k miles, it's a used car and should be priced as such. Run it on the TMV as a used car and see what $ it comes up with.
  • thegreatvudinithegreatvudini Member Posts: 103
    I got my brand new 03 s in September at invoice. Plus, I got the rebate, 0% for 60 mo. and a $250 rebate (RevItUp coupon).
  • jgagnejgagne Member Posts: 5
    Is the Bose stereo worth the price? Is the base stereo in the 6 any good? I test drove a 6 with the Bose system and it sounded great, I havent heard the stock stereo yet though.
  • bullseyejoebullseyejoe Member Posts: 7
    That is my opinion !!!

    I would buy Bose upgrade or aftermarket system.

    I own 2003 Mazda 6s and need to upgrade sound system !!
  • fivesmithsfivesmiths Member Posts: 1
    i have an opp to buy an '03 6i fully loaded the only thing it does NOT have is the homelink on the mirror. It's really tricked out and drives well. It's got 12.5k and has been certified by the mazda dealer. Now I'm not a hard core car guy so I'm looking for a bit of help. I can get out the door on this car with tax, 7.7% for 21k. i also have the opp to get a new '04 altima for the same cost with the only diff in bells and whistles being the premium stereo. I like the handling better on the 6 but the room in the altima is better. Also the 6 suffers from the "stain" . Does the fix work? It really looks like rust to me. I appreciate any input and since this is a mazda board I expect I will get many pro mazda replies , in truth I'm leaning that way but I don't want a white car. If the price is exceptional I can put my dislike for white in the grave. thanks for your input.
  • josh684josh684 Member Posts: 55
    That seems a little pricy, for a 2003...used? I think u can get out the door with a new 04 like that for 22K? Invoice is 22K on those and there is a $1,500 rebate. Does not sound like a good deal to me.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    is the 12,500 miles on a demo car? If its a demo car I would wait a couple months to see if there are more rebates on an 04 6. Thats why I don't like buying used cars because you don't how an owner or select demo drivers take care of the car.

    As far a stain fix goes on the 03 6's the 04's don't have that stain/rust problem. I don't think Mazda has recalled any 03 6's yet for the rust problem which I think would be a courteous thing to do if they did have a recall. Yet in my opinion its another reason to buy an 04 model. I;m not trying to tell you to buy an 04 rather than an 03 6 I'm just giving you my opinion. Its your decision so you have to decide whats best for you.
  • madaxemanmadaxeman Member Posts: 8
    I just put a deposit on 6s AT with the sports package, Bose system and luxury package with moonroof. The quote I received was $23,300. Let me know what you think.
  • jeffm2jeffm2 Member Posts: 16
    That's really the measurement.
  • madaxemanmadaxeman Member Posts: 8
    They are $26,860 and $24,263.
  • redkey1redkey1 Member Posts: 270
    Well, w/ the rebate it looks like you paid 25,800 minus the 2500 rebate. 25,800 is 1300 over invoice which seems high to me. I'd think $500 over invoice minus the rebate would be a good deal. Somewhere around 22,300.
  • likaglovlikaglov Member Posts: 82
    REBATE: The 2004 rebate is $1500, right. I believe the $2500 is only for a 2003 without 1SE. Maybe I'm reading the wrong thread...

    MADAXEMAN: I'm looking at the same car (same MSRP) with S-plan and it looks to me like it will cost $22751 after $1500 rebate. I think $23,300 without S-plan is a good price, $500 over invoice.

    Any chance they will up the rebate for President's day?
  • madaxemanmadaxeman Member Posts: 8
    Thank you for your opinions. Likaglov, what do you mean by the S-plan?
  • likaglovlikaglov Member Posts: 82
    S-plan is a Ford/Mazda program with fixed prices. You must be eligible for it by working for a "partner company". My employer is a partner company for Ford. The price is based off of invoice (actually S-plan is essentially invoice price). There is also an E-plan which is 5% lower, but is only for Mazda employees.

    You'd have to check if your employer (or spouse's employer) participates. I've never seen a list, it was just advertised at my company, so I checked into it.
  • josh684josh684 Member Posts: 55
    Anyone know when new incentives might come out? As of right now there is no customer incentives on 2004's? I want to get a 6 but Im waiting because of the heavy discount on the 2003.

    -Josh
  • rampedramped Member Posts: 358
    Incentives on the 04s (sedans only) is $1,500, or $500 plus low-rate financing. There is also 2.9 percent financing for 60 months. These incentives are listed here at Edmunds and expire March 1. Just click on the new cars and go to the Mazda 6.
  • cheesehead6cheesehead6 Member Posts: 68
    Ramped does indeed point to the incentives currently pending. But there may be parts of the country where they don't apply. About a week ago when I checked on behalf of a friend in the Boston area, Edmunds listed no incentives for his zip code. If Edmunds isn't in error and Josh lives in a "no incentive zone", he wasn't mistaken. He should recheck on Edmunds and double check with Mazda. If the $1500 rebates are available after all, I'd forget about a 2003, bargain hard with a dealer starting around invoice, and go for a 2004.
  • swrobertsswroberts Member Posts: 3
    I just received a quote from the Internet mgr at a local mazda dealership. 2004 6s, manual , options include the sports package, Bose Sound system and the Luxury package.
     $22,647 + Tax and Title extra 0% over 60 months
     or
          $20,642 + Tax and Title extra no special finance rate
  • cmarchcmarch Member Posts: 1
    According to my calculations, the break even rates for the $20,642 loan over various loan periods are (i.e., you will pay $2000 over the life of the loan in interest): 6.1% (36 mos.); 4.6% (48 mos.); 3.7% (60 mos.). Rates beyond these rates for the specify time period will cost you more than $2k!
  • josh684josh684 Member Posts: 55
    $20,642, For a 6s, Sports, Bose and Luxury? Before rebates thats 22,142, Isnt invoice way more than that??
  • swrobertsswroberts Member Posts: 3
    I have the invoice price for the 6s manual, sports package, Bose, and Luxury package at 22,040. This is from Edmonds. He was throwing in 1,500 off or 0.0%. There is no extra fees except Tax and title. Tax is 8 1/4% and he quoted me title at around $95. The car is now sold, I didn't get it. I have another offer of a 2004 Black on Black, with everything in the first car, plus the sports grille, side airbags, locking wheels and moon roof. He offered it to me for $23,731 - $1,500 incentive + (Tax and Title extra). Total cost to me would be roughly 24,100. He also matched my internet load of 3.9% over 5 years.
  • rampedramped Member Posts: 358
    These offers you are receiving seem to be a couple hundred over invoice less rebate. Not bad, not great.

    The question to you is, are you going to be happy with the car? If you are, then a couple hundred here or there scattered over 60 months isn't going to matter much, is it?
  • safetynutsafetynut Member Posts: 5
    I am new to this website and this is my first time posting.

    I am looking at the Mazda 6i and have seen a great price for it by purchasing it through Carsdirect.com. Has anyone purchased a car this way? I have been on a test drive and know what options I want. The dealers in my area do not have a car on the lot with my specifications. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
  • josh684josh684 Member Posts: 55
    Has anyone gotten the car below invoice?, before that rebates that is. I am wondering if I should just ask for invoice or below invoice?
  • brian125brian125 Member Posts: 5,244
    JOSH.... here is my 2 cents.. on buying the mazada 6.. round up 10 to 15 mazada dealers closest to your area ,call each dealership ask for the internet sales manager tell every dealer you talk with that for invoice, plus tax, dmv fee's and out the door you will buy the car as of that moment if he sells you the car for invoice.. when you get a dealer to bit leave him a 500 dollar credit card refundable deposit til he finds, swaps or has to order your car.. invoice pricing on this car is not going to be hard.. my buddy bought in n.y for invoice.. i always buy over the phone i usually wait till the end of the month when dealers need to make there quota's good luck

    23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE

  • brian125brian125 Member Posts: 5,244
    unless a dealer has the car on his lot, cant sell it and really wants to get rid of it he may go alittle below invoice.. but with the 1500 rebate invoice on the 6 is a great deal..

    23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE

  • likaglovlikaglov Member Posts: 82
    I saw a commercial advertising 0% over 60 months, expiring 3/31/04. Has the $1500 rebate also been extended from 3/1 to 3/31? (without the financing, of course). I'm trying to decide if I need to purchase before 3/1 or whether the rebates will be the same or better in March.

    Thanks in advance.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    I have a good friend who bought an Accord using Carsdirect and liked the way it worked. But, you need to have a Carsdirect participating dealer in your area. IMO you can get as good of a deal on your own if you know what you're doing. Dealers can do a "locate" within your region. You can also use the mazdausa.com inventory search with zipcodes in areas you are willing to travel to. Also, Mazda Customer Service may be able to locate a car with the exact options you want. Before I decided to wait for the 5-door, they located several cars for me throughout the US that matched exactly what I wanted.
  • bostongiobostongio Member Posts: 52
    Geez, all I can say is be careful with dealers. Even after having thought I had agreed to a price with a dealer, I got pounded by additional documentation and ad fees I didn't agree to (which nearly doubled the price over invoice we had agreed to).

    Now when I point that out to the dealer, he says, "Well, read the buyer's order, you agreed to it!" Technically, he's right, because that's my signature on the order form. But it leaves a bad taste in your mouth to say you agreed on one price, and then have another $450 in "fees" added onto that price.

    So make sure when you're dealing, you absolutely know what you're actually agreeing to. The dealer who says, "I'll give you the car for $500 over invoice" is lying to you if then tacks on another $450 in these extraneous fees. Plain and simple.
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    Why don't you spell out the "whole story?" it makes for better reading.

    The part about your need to be the first to have the car? or the part about sending emails to the dealer months prior to the order bank being open to make sure you were the first in town to have the new model, insisting that your order get in on the first allocation? or that there was no pricing when you ordered your car and the dealer agreed to $xxx over factory invoice? or that the legit manufacturer ad fee which is charged on every car (and on the factory invoice not a dealer slide in) by the manufacturer is what your complaining about and think it just go away because you don't want to pay it? or the part about the dealer conveyance fee which was clearly spelled out in advance and upfront and you were told it was not going to be waived and you singed the buyers order and agreeded? or the part about you trying to re-negotiate only days before the factory ordered car arrives? or the part about the order being placed months ago and you had plenty of time to cancel before the car was built and the order could have been changed to a car that the dealer wants or needs? or the part about the dealer kept you informed as the the orders progress on a regular basis and you were even infomred the day the car was built. or the part about your email threats if the dealer didnt bow to your pricing deamnds after you already agreeded to a deal months ago? or the part about the dealer sent you the actual invoice the day it arrived at the dealership to confirm the numbers with you and you didnt say anything until a few weeks later? or the part about the dealer being willing to give you and additional discount and it "wasnt good enough" or the part about the dealer being willing to deliver the car to you since you lived 120+ miles away from the dealership for no extra charge....would you like me to go
  • bostongiobostongio Member Posts: 52
    Well, I'll take the high road here and just say, Rich, it wasn't personal, it was business. I felt add-on fees not agreed upon were more important to you than the actual deal, and that's why you lost the deal. Enjoy!!
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    What's a "dealer conveyance fee"? That's a new one to me.
  • bostongiobostongio Member Posts: 52
    That pays for the effort it takes to hand you the keys!!
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    This isnt the place to debate a DOC (documentation) fee / conveyance fee. There are other threads on here that discuss it in length. OTOH, once again bostongio is wrong and trying to whip up a riot by trying to cover up his fully agreed upon deal by deflecting the attention. Our fee is fully disclosed on the buyers order and the consumer signed and agreed to the full terms of the buyers order months ago when the car was ordered. He also tried to negotiate it away then and was told no...He certainly could have passed on the deal, shopped other dealers, haggled better etc.. but he signed the buyers order and sent in a deposit and the car was ordered.
    This wasnt something slipped at delivery.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    I was just wondering what it was. Maybe its the same as what we in the western US call a Doc Fee. In Colorado the dealers are required to post this in the showroom, but in NM you have to pry it out of them. Personally I don't care what it's called, as long as it's known up front and included in the price, and not slipped in at the last minute. It's part of the OTD price.
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