Honda Odyssey Future Models

user777

i'm probably the only one that thinks the spy photo and the green image look very similar - enough that i wouldn't even say that one looks any better than the other. what blows me away is that the image and the photo orientation are so similar...

chance?

i wouldn't be able to infer what some of you are speculating from this photo. but, i like the side mirror...it looks more aero-dymanic than the ones on my '03.

it could all be a deception. ;O

player4

Which one are you talkin bout? the one that my friends did or the one that a guy from ODYCLUB made?

jchan2

the one your friend made. I couldn't see the ODYCLUB one.

jim1462

After looking at the photo, the front end reminds me of the 05 Chrysler(bulged hood and slanted grill). I hope Honda adds chrome around the perimeter of the grill. I am disapointed that Honda did not hide the rear door sliding groove.Would have been a big plus for overall style.

  I will probably buy an early 05 EX-L Touring. I think the Touring will be an upscale EX-L with, Black Leather interior available with certain exterior colors, upgrade wheel/tire package,sunroof, electronic stability control, tire pressure monitor(s),power right passenger seat,power rear hatch, and an upgrade audio system, I am guessing it will cost at least $3k over an EX-L.I hope the Touring package will include Fog lights(are you listenig Honda)

ceric

I think someone mentioned this earlier. By looking at the picture more carefully, I think it makes a lot of sense.

Someone complained that the door rail is still visible. My hypothesis is that the 3rd row windows may not be fixed like current Odyssey. If you look carefully, it seems like they can be rolled down (may not be completely due to space occupied by rear wheels). If 3rd row windows can be roll down, then you cannot hide the door rails beneath those windows. Anyone agree?

player4

I agree with u ceric, i dont really care if its hidden or not but also if u think bout it the right thing to do was to HIDE the door rail but i think Honda didnt do it because there might be a 3rd row roll down window and that would be awesome!!Now i think there is one because if u think back in 99 when Honda introduced the ODY it had the FIRST minivan with fold flat third row seat, and i think that Honda is still gonna keep doing lots of FIRTS with this new ODY such as FIRST 3rd row roll down windows and more. Im not saying that there IS a roll down window BUT theres POSIBILITY!!

iceman03

better shadow detail

ac00lra

Yeah!!! I like it. Can someone also use PhotoShop or whatever tool to add the roof racks, make the mirror the same color as the body color, and maybe change it to some other color?? :-) Hehe. Just a thought. But I think it looks much better than I expected after see that green van pic.

hwyhobo

Could I name one minivan which I think looks better? I thought I was clear. Yes, I think the green one looked much better. It had more interesting and graceful lines. The heavy front snout on the latest one is plain ugly and ungraceful. Honda picked up the worst styling cues from Chrysler and Mazda.

In fact, I think the current Odyssey looks much better.

jchan2

can we also add some alloy wheels for the EX model (obviously this is the LX model) and body colored door handles? hehe.

aabb

I started out thinking it has the Sedona/Windstar/Chrysler look, but if you look carefully it has the honda sophistication elements in it. perhaps it is not apparent in the masked and non-roof rack version we are looking at. I think it grows on you. I am starting to like it now. If it had third row power windows, I would buy it instead of the Sienna.

andrewtran71

I really can't judge the overall looks, but the front view curves look great. There may be chrome on the grille, but how much we don't know, and that will certainly determine how the front will end up looking. The Pilot has no chrome lines that I can see, and I think it looks ugly. The MDX does not have any chrome lines either. So we will see.

ceric

is the narrow opening of the sliding doors. Side by side comparison in autoshow, I found the opening to be at least 2 inches narrower than Odyssey's. I think it has something to do with the fact that the door rail is under window (it limits the length of movement). Anyone observed that?

tinyb

anybody notice the 4th window. The 3th window can definitely roll down!

user777

since when does a spy take only one pic? i bet there are other pics available. so who has the $$$ for the others to be coughed up?

lok888

I hope this is another Honda's FIRST. But looking back to Elysion with the same sliding door design, there is no 3rd row roll down window. But if this is the case, how do they hide the power window motor and regulator on the side with the fuel door?

raydahs

Another possibility regarding the doors, if you look at the Odyssey profile, it has the ability to have the only second row windows that could roll down completely (an industry first). So if they put the track farther down, it would leave the option of having the windows rolled down with the door open (glass is heavy, better C of G). With that possibility, the rear windows might be 1/2 or 3/4 roll down due to the Gas filler tube location.

Nobody has mentioned the fact that sitting behind the Van is a pretty good sized trailer which looks to be hooked to the Ody based on the squat at the rear. Some people are crossing over from SUV's to Vans due to the same cargo capability (see the Tahoe sitting next to it), better Gas mileage and cheaper Insurance. Hopefully, thier addressing the lack of a Factory installed Trans cooler and such. Which could be why the grill has a larger opening, to allow more air into a larger radiator? That's one thing that turned me off from the current Oddy and Pilot, you pay over 30K for a new vehicle only to let some yahoo at the dealer rip the whole front end off, to install the necessary equipment.....not me!

The 05 Ody front end debate reminds me of the 95 Civic Coupe (which I owned at the time) and the 96 redesigned Civic. I was soooo relived when I saw the first pics of the 96 with the "Frog eye" like headlights. They should have just put the new TL front end on the Ody, but either way people will get used to it. I saw the Sienna for the first time and reminded me of a Ford Focus on steroids, but I got over it.

This thing will no doubt win all the awards and will reign again as champ.

lok888

I follow your theory on possibility of 3rd row roll down windows. In fact, no auto marker has tried it yet. We will see. My question is are we going to see a rear power window (on the rear liftgate) on minivan like 4Runner or rear glass hatch on many SUVs? I think it would be great for getting small items but too dangerous for rear passengers.

raydahs

I thought about that. The only concern I would have about 3rd windows rolling down is: if you had all the windows rolled down the rear lift gate glass might act like a parachute, how would the air flow through the cabin to eliminate some of the wind buffeting problems other makes are having or is that the solution to that? So logically the rear gate should be able to go down ala 4Runner. Until you factor in the possibility of exhaust gases coming back into the cabin at lower speeds would be bad. Unless they limited the opening to a few inches, that's a tough one.

As a kid, my Dad had a Ford LTD wagon we towed the race car with. I can remember gasses coming into the cabin back then, but these days with all of the legal junk going on, it's probably not worth it for a manufacturer to try it. Someone would find a way to sue. But if anyone could figure it out it would be Honda, afterall they can build robots;)

defucius

there are some spy pics on vtec.net:

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=247095

defucius

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defucius

Anybody can see where the radio is in the 3rd picture? I don't see a place to insert a cd...

raydahs

So much for the theory of the first pic hooked to a trailer, but post 1624 shows a very nice 2" trailer adapter, good job Honda, nice wheels too!

Third window still a mystery.

The Radio looks similar to the Quest. Don't know how well that will go over.

player4

OOOOHHH!! i love the interior!!! and also the back doesnt look bad at all!! the door rails Honda did not hide them but they where smart enough to like start a line from the front all the way to the back to kinda hide the door rails! Good one Honda!!

pcrispy

Anyone notice that the rims in the top pic (from the rear) are different than the original spy shot and the side shot. Is this a different vehicle or am I crazy. Don't answer that.

danno

No amber rear turn signals - step backwards in safety IMHO.

player4

OK, the different rims the one with the big rims and roof rail adn moonroof adn back up sensors according to TOV its the "Touring" model adn the one without the roof rails and wheel covers according to TOV is the "LX" model. also notice the drivers window switche in the 3rd pic, you can see 3 button going down, so i would guess 1st row, 2nd ow, adn 3rd row power doen windows. is anybody with me??

defucius

As a matter of fact, I think there are at least two, maybe three differenct vehicles. One has roof rail, one does not. The wheels are different as well.

03lxv8

In the picture of the upscale model what are those lumps on the rear roof? The other model doesn't have them. Opening rear hatch maybe?

player4

The curren Honda Odyssey got the amber rear turn signals when it went through the facelift (in 2002 i beieve) so when this new ODY gets the facelift it will probably get the amber signals. there sno need for amber turn signals to me IMO cars look better with red or white turn signals not amber.

player4

I know what u are talking about, those lumps that are side to side of the stop light on the top where the rear spioler is. I do not know what they are. good eye!!

danno

No amber rear turn signals - step backwards in safety IMHO.

texlnghorn

If you look closely at the 1st shot, it looks like another ody in the upper right corner. Maybe thats our LX model.

lok888

Wow! More good pictures. I see the clear rear turn signal lens. It could be with a amber light bulbs. It doesn't have to be a amber colored lens. And you can replace the bulbs with hype white with Euro look. Anyway, please no red rear turn signals like the '99 and '00 models.

However, can't see any reason this will have a power 3rd row roll windows? They are too big, even only can roll down 1/2 or 2/3. The sliding door windows seem a bit small, or maybe the tape on C pillar.

Can you see the rear license plate what state is it? The third photo (far right) has sunroof, DVD navigation (looks like the one from Accord) and shift level at front console.

Overall, my impression is most things are expanded a little bit from the current design. I have no disappointment but I am not too excited, maybe the VCM engine performance.

player4

On the right top handside of the license plate you can see something like a lil bubble hanging down, that is the Camera adn the model that tha CAM is in, its the Touring model adn since it had the NAVI theres no doubt about that, the MDX has an standard camera that comes with the NAVi, so probably Honda is gonna do the same thing with the Odyssey if u get Navigation System, you also get the Rearview Camera.

lok888

Good observation. I thought it was a keyhole for the rear door. Or maybe I am right. Maybe this one has no rearview backup camera yet. I thought it is a bit bigger than the one in the picture.

andrewtran71

The NAV screen looks huge too just like the Accord's and MDX's NAV.
Overall, the looks is extremely similar to the '04 Ody. I think Honda did a fantastic job conservatively and intelligently modifying just enough to make it look even better. Can't wait to see the finished product.

andrewtran71

It may be too early to say this, but I have a very good feeling it may be the best looking minivan on the market.
I wonder why they taped the fenders and side moldings?
could it be chrome they are hiding?

andrewtran71

So far the only slight disappointment I see is the rear end of the Ody. I think the rear bumper sticks out too much--looks a little wierd, but might grow on me later. But I think overall, it looks very, very good.

andrewtran71

I don't know, man. I still think Honda screwed up the rear end.
When looking from the side view, the Sienna's rear look so much better IMO.

aabb

I can see a conversation mirror and the rear view mirror sure has some electronic display as the rear view mirror mounting appear to be built to carry wires.
Instrument panel shifter is too close to AC ducts, it would stay warm/cold due to the air flow in the drive position.
I think the CD player slot is below the LCD display, below the AC vent.
Three zone AC controls appear to be below the music system.

I really like the package. especially the hood profile/bump. Has a Mercedes look.
Are the wheels bigger than 17 inches?

jchan2

The license plates are Ohio Bicentennial manufacturer plates. I see many Ohio tags where I live, and this one seems to be a 2002-2003 edition of the Ohio license plate. (they switched over the design for 2004)

poisson

I absolutely love it. I think Honda has infused enough sportiness into the design to keep it the best looking minivan (we have a 2003 which I think is quite sharp).
Here are some of my miscellaneous observations:

1) "In the picture of the upscale model what are those lumps on the rear roof?". The right hump is the right roof rack. The middle one is most likely a satellite radio antenna.

2) The passenger side of the dashboard appears to have an upper glovebox.

3) The steering wheel incoporates integrated buttons unlike the current add-ons. looks nice.

4) the turn signals appear to have amber bulbs

5) the EX wheels are definitely AT LEAST 17". I actually saw a brand new 2004 Odyssey with 17" Honda wheels. They looked similiar to these. They don't appear to be available at the dealer (at least per the Honda website) so I am not sure how they go them.

6) The 3rd window - something is odd about it. I actually do think it might roll down. The reason I think this is that there is the same rubber seal along the top and bottom as the middle window (which we know go down). On the current Odyssey, the second and third window are flush mounted with the seal underneath the glass.

7) The back end looks great - I think it extremely aggressive looking and I like the large 'shelf' Honda has built into the bumper.

8) the separate High/Low beam looks sharp

9) the van has a nice teardrop shape. See the side profile and notice how the rear window top slopes down and the bottom slopes up.

I can't wait to see it in person. I like the fact that the current Odyssey CONTINUES to win minivan competitions and the new one is just around the corner. Honda is poised to dominant for years to come....

poisson

One other thing - the back section of the 2nd window appears to be a taped up fixed window. I say this because of the apparent bubbles in the tape and the fact that if it weren't, that would be one big pillar.

alex2

I know that I'm kind of late, but I am minivan shopping right now, and basically it's either the Sienna or the Ody. But before I make my choice, I want to know, Where can I view pictures of the 2005 Ody? I went to future vehicles, and all they basically showed was a partially camoflauged front end of the new Ody. If there are any other pictures of the new 2005 Ody, please let me know. Those pictures may delay my decision. Also: Is it just me or does the front end of the new Ody kind of resemble the soon-to-be-released 2005 Acura RL?

andrewtran71

There are no other pictures of the new Ody that we know of. These 4 pictures are spy photos and the final product will hopefully look better all nice and clean without any tapes and such.

Yeah, the front end also reminds me of the '05 RL, but the back end bothers me a bit right now. It may grow on me like the Accord did, but time will tell.

http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/247095/05ody_bp-03.jpg

http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/247095/05ody_bp-02.jpg

http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/247095/05ody_bp-04.jpg

http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/honda/odyssey/100396379/photos- .html?tid=edmunds.f.photos.vdpheaderphoto..0.Honda*

ceric

Hi Andrew, I am surprised that you are bothered by the rear end. I think it looks similar in style to that of Sienna other than the fact that the Sienna has the tail lights right below the rear glass, which I am not a big fan of. Besides, I dislike red signal lights. They are not as safe as amber ones. With the tapes on, it look good to me. Overall, I would say the new Odyssey beats Sienna in the "look" department.

One thing I dislike about Sienna is the narrow opening of the sliding doors. At autoshow, side by side comparison, this became clear to me. My guess is that it could be a result of hiding door rails under 3rd row windows (not enough length for door movement). Whoever wants to buy Sienna may want to pay attention to that.

The new Odyssey is some van to look forward to. Whoever wants one, better put down their deposit because the over-MRSP frazy would probably happen again. Why? Honda usually do not have enough production volume for new vehicles unlike Toyota. That usually drives up the sales price initially.

jchan2

I'm luckier because I have a 2002 van that can still keep on going until the prices come down and I can get a 2006 or 2007 model.

shellymeister2

After trying to guage the dimensions of the new Ody (without much success), I'm thinking that the new Ody is possibly a tad shorter (maybe an inch or 2) but it might be a couple of inches taller.

    Honda has done this taller thing before with the MDX/Pilot. When the Pilot was being introduced, it was promoted as being larger than the MDX. Well, in the end it turned out that it was TALLER than the MDX (but not longer) so that the interior space volume measurements would show an increase over the MDX.

     I think Honda will be able to lay claim to having the largest interior of any Minivan on the market simply by raising the roof.

    We'll see............