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No, it does not look like that - it looks like the old generation Ody had a baby.....:-)
I disagree, it looks like the old generation Ody still pregnant . lol
I think the new Odyssey is an improvement as well.
We are expecting an official press release from Honda within the next week regarding the 2005 Odyssey.
Just touch that cheap crap and you will see it moves very easily like flimsy plastic. What a total disgrace! Using cheap plastic as "chrome" on a $40K vehicle!
Hell, even a cheap Kia just real chrome on the front grille!
However, I still like the Sienna overall :-)
I'm just disappointed with that slight blimish, which I hope Toyota will fix soon.
1) Just as I fear, they totally screwed up the rear end. Not as bad as the Nissan Quest, but almost as bad. What were they thinking?
2) I don't think the 3rd row windows can be rolled down.
3) Where are the cross-bars? Cheap Honda people! Give us those cross-bars to go along with the roof-rack like Toyota why don't you?
4) I hope the door handles on the Touring model are not black!
5) The NAV screen looks like it's an "8" screen, which is good.
6) No gated shifter, just a dash mounted straight-line shifter. NO!
7) You get 6-Disc CD with the NAV, unlike the Sienna.
8) Looks like the DVD player is located below the coin/cup holder, and you get both NAV and DVD player, which is good.
9) I don't see any woodtrim. NO!
10) Still don't know if the grille will have chrome.
11) Overall, at this point in time without seeing the real deal yet, I still rank the Sienna above the new Ody in terms of looks: no woodtrim, no gated shifter, and terrible rear end.
But the Ody gets higher points with the awesome NAV+DVD player+6-CD changer all in the front dash.
Why do all the Acura vehicles have the gated shifter and none of the Honda vehicles have the gated shifter?
Until the Sienna and Solara, all Lexus had the gated shifter, but all the Toyotas did not.
I hope the Touring w/NAV+RES looks a lot more luxurious than that.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
This is what I think of the new Odyssey:
1. I notice that the outside is a bit "squary". Not good for my tastes.
2. The rear end looks really messed.
3. The interior; buttons everywhere; reminds me of the Quest.
4. A huge navigation system. That's good.
5. No woodtrim; most of the interior is adorn with plastic/rubber. I like the Sienna's woodtrim.
6. Stereo is low. Sienna's is atleast on the way on top of the dash.
7. I notice the seat heaters are REALLY low. Literally above the floor. Not good.
8. No gated shifter. And isn't it a 5 speed?
I still have to see the final production to clarify my judgement but I don't like this one. I'm glad I have a Sienna. It atleast is a bit rounder,
Nicely textured plastic/vinyl is still my favorite.
As to the rear and the black trim outside, I think it might be part of the disguise. The current model has body color trim (on the EX), so highly unlikely they will go back. On the rear, a little tape to hide the details can make a huge difference.
Personally, it looks OK, and of all the aspects of a minivan, the styling of the rear end is pretty far down the list in trerms of importance. The interior and driving dynamics are the most improtant (particularly truning radius). Styling, well it is a big box, and I want maximum utility and visibility, not high style (like the Quest).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I think squarish can work well like BMW SUV or Lexus LX470 SUV.
They should try to make it look like a BMW SUV on the back end. What a shame, unless it's a total disguise thing. The front looks like a lot of mesh metal look. That's okay, but it better have plenty of REAL chrome too.
Yeah, what happend to the Elysion buttons and layout? I was hoping it would look more like the Accord's layout!
I have seen absolutely nothing at this point that would make me want to buy this thing. The NAV looks great, but everything else is very mediocre.
Wouldn't it be funny if these were an elaborate plan to distract everyone from the REAL '05 Odyssey. That would be so funny. If only it were true.
I think everyone should reserve judgement till we see the unmasked photos.
I prefer to reserve judgement until I can see it in person (or at least decent pictures of the real thing). Things like seat somfort and ergonomics really can't be told until you get in and play with the darn thing.
Again, I don't mind if it doesn't set the world on fire, if it means I get a good deal sooner than I would otherwise.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I think many of us have heard rumors that the '05 Ody would just "blow" everyone away in terms of looks and functionality. But based on these spy pics, it's very disappointing only because many of our expections are set so high.
I hope all the negative impressions, including my own, will go away once the real deal appears.
I still like the gated shifter of the Sienna a lot better, though. I don't think they will change the position and type of shifter in the finished product, do you?
But I am very glad Honda has given the Ody a HUGE (possibly 8 inch) NAV screen and bigger DVD movie screen (about 9" according to a source on Odyclub who has seen the new Ody with her own eyes).
That will show Toyota and hopefully, Toyota will copy that in the 2006/2007 Sienna.
We will just have to wait another week or so to pass judgement on the finished product.
One thing which really disappoints me, though, is that they can't get the damn cupholders right! In my Accord, the cupholders have four spring-loaded "grabbers" that keep your drink in place no matter how skinny the cup is (or in my wife's case, the standard-size bottle of Arrowhead water). Doesn't look to be the case here, which means that the water is going to constantly be shaking around.
Other than that, I like the new look. Not sure why everyone is complaining about the rear end, it looks MUCH better than my Accord...
We will be coming out of a previous generation ('99) Nissan Quest, so I'm sure the room and comfort will be a nice improvment, even if not up to some folks expectations. I do like the Sienna in many ways, but there are a few things that I would change. Not important enough necessarily to not buy it, but nothing IMO is perfect.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Example: Just look at the Sienna's instrument cluster. I love it. It's simple, clean and neat. 3 nice gauges with light blue color. Then, the shift indicators is messing up the whole thing! I prefer the Camry gauges due to it's clean design.
Besides that, I think it's not so safe that you don't have to press the button on the shifter. It's much easier for children to move your car, or accidently put the shifter in reverse/neutral...
I never liked Honda interiors. The current Odyssey is soooooooo plain, on black background, We definitely need some wood and chrome inside! I don't like the Ody steering wheel either.
I told you before, guys: Do not expect the new Ody to blow everything away! This will never happen! After some competitors, especially Toyota, tried hard to put in most everything in the redesigned Sienna, it's hard to beat. Sure, they can add some stuff here and there, but no more blowing away anymore.
Anyway, Andrew: Think this way: Honda is not crazy! They never was! So they probably made it as good as possible. We have to wait and try it out, see detailed pictures, and read some reviews from actual testers.
The painted handles and the faked ovals under them are intended to throw off the observer.
The handles, the fender arches and the wheels will likely be colored as one would expect, as will be the large black plastic section on the rear hatch. So expect body color on all these and silver rims.
The cars are complete, but trim and details may be slightly different. I suspect most will be happy with how they turn out.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=249535
IIRC, when I looked at the Pilot, the EX w/o NAV had the radio in the spot where the NAV was located on upper level models, as described above. I'm not a big NAV fan, but from some of the tests I've seen on motorweek, some companies integrate the radio controls into one of the NAV screens. Is that a possibility here?
Well, we shall soon see.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
With the Sienna I know I get better reliability, a proven engine (3.3 V6 is the same as RX330, highlander), smooth ride, good acceleration, better interior, pre-wired for DVD (will get aftermarket DVD if I go with Sienna)
The VCM fuel savings for those 6K miles:
assuming a 15% improvement due to VCM.
non VCM (sienna) would give 26mpg highway
VCM fitted Honda would give 30 mpg highway
For 6K miles with VCM: 200 gallons/yr
For 6K miles with non-VCM: 230 gallons/yr
Total savings per year: 30 gallons or 60 bucks.
Total worries with this bleeding edge technology : plenty.
your mileage may vary!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
If someone drives a lot on trips, and a van is usually the designated trip car, they could double your savings, more if you drive >12k miles.
If you keep your van for 7 years, that's $840, or enough to buy an extended warranty for 7/100 and ease those worries away completely! Voila.
The warranty covers everything else, basically, and you get better range for those long trips.
Plus they've had it in the HCH, and do you really expect Honda to pull a GM V8-6-4 with this?
All I'm saying is that there are pros and cons.
-juice
Second year, the next 150,000 new vans saves 4,500,000 gallons and the original saves another 4,500,000 gallons for a total of 9,000,000 gallons.
Third year is 13,500,000 gallons saved and so on.
All I can say is wow!
-juice