Honda Odyssey Future Models

stickguy

Actually, sounds like you want a Canadian Touring.

nwng

oh, my 90 civic had a lined coin holder as well.......

As with the storage bin underneath, try retrieve a few quarters for the tolls. Let me know if you did not end up in an accident.

05ody

Exacally my point. I mean with the Accord it is in a very convienent place and you do not have to reach down or anything you dont even have to lean forward. Even if I wanted to use the storage bins in the Odyssey, it would be a safety hazzard. I think Honda should look this over because I can think of plenty of places to put the coin holder in the Odyssey.

rajivarora

My wish list:

1 - Make HandsfreeLink Bluetooth available (now on some Acuras) on the Odyssey and Pilot
2 - Provide a Honda Ipod direct connectivity solution. Currently the best direct connection is through the AUX connectors of the RES, or with aftermarket on non-RES models.

jchan2

The Canadian Touring has no PAX????

wharton

I just test drove both the 2005 Odyssey and the Toyota Sienna. The Odyssey had superior handling and performance; however, I believe I must purchase the Sienna due to the fact that I could not get a good driving position due to the steering wheel(!). :mad:

Amen again about the telescoping steering wheel!!!

Does any one know if the 2006 model due out in August has corrected this deficiency? :confuse:

rorr

"The Canadian Touring has no PAX????"

Correct. My theory is it's because Michelin does not make a snow tire to fit their PAX system.

robr2

Correct. My theory is it's because Michelin does not make a snow tire to fit their PAX system.

Hmm - those snowy winters in Vancouver are horrible compared to the balmy, dry ones we get here in New England.

But it wouldn't suprise me.

rorr

Well, yes. But I imagine that, generally speaking, Canadian Hondas will see slightly more snow than American Hondas. All of which is a LOT more snow than I'll see here in central Texas. :P

The only other reason I can think of that the PAX tires are not on the Canadian Touring may be the scarcity of authorized Michelin dealers in Canada to do repairs should the need arise. :confuse:

jchan2

Honda should make PAX optional on the Touring, other than that, the Touring is a perfect match for me.

robr2

Well, yes. But I imagine that, generally speaking, Canadian Hondas will see slightly more snow than American Hondas. All of which is a LOT more snow than I'll see here in central Texas.

It wasn't meant as a dig on you - sorry. Although I'm a long time Honda owner and fan I can see Honda's crazy logic. Just like heated mirrors and a low washer fluid light were standard on Canadian versions of the 99-04 and we couldn't even adapt those to US bound units.

stickguy

big problem is no Canadian infrastructure, and the large distances between dealers (or towns for that matter) in some parts. Also no snows.

sschriber

I love my 95 Odyssey because of it's compactness and all of the associated benefits. I've been frustrated watching the succeeding models grow and grow in size. Yesterday, I was surprised to see what I wanted future Honda minivans to be. Turned out to be a Mazda. Anyone longing for the smaller dimensioned Odysseys of the past should check out the 2006 Mazda 5.

scoffman

Does anyone know if the 2006 Odyessy will have AWD like the Sienna?

regganae

Nope. My dealer told me the only change it will have are the tail lights, and maybe a color change. I ordered an '06 Ody yesterday, and I am waiting for him to notify me when he knows for sure of any color changes, but there will be nothing major being that it was just redesigned last year.

jamesr

I am considering buying an '05 at invoice. What much was the '06? Did you pay MSRP, invoice, or somewhere inbetween?

Thanks.

george66

Would you share where you can buy an '05 at invoice. Family needs one. Thanks.

Kirstie_H

Hi george66,
You'll get a lot more feedback on your potential '05 purchase in our Honda Odyssey: Prices Paid & Buying Experience discussion. It's very active, and members share the pricing that they're seeing all over the country.

kirstie_h
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Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions

06buyer

If Honda is beginning '06 production in August, when do the cars begin to reach the dealers? Does anyone have a historical memory of how much (if any) Honda cuts the prices on the previous year's model when a new model year comes out?

Thanks

rorr

"...how much (if any) Honda cuts the prices on the previous year's model when a new model year comes out?"

If you are looking for manufacturer rebates on unsold '05s, I wouldn't hold my breath.

lstufleb

If you check the official Honda web site they have posted the new prices and standard features.

thegraduate

You are correct in assuming that Honda likely won't produce many (if any) rebates for their automobiles, but individual dealers here in the south are quite prone to negotiationat purchase time. My aunt traded her 2000 model Ody for an 05, got over blue book for the old one and over 2,000 off sticker (around 28,500 for her EX w/cloth). She bought this at Christmas time when the new Odysseys were still "brand 'spankin' new", and many people didn't expect a price redux. I would think that with a good amount of cross-shopping dealers that you could get a good 10% off of MSRP.

tmp888

Even if dealer sells you a vehicle at invoice price (cost to dealer), it still gets 4%-5% of the transaction from the manufacture (it's called dealer hold back). Usually MSRP is about 12%-14% higher than the invoice.

dsrtrat2

Some '07s are coming on the market. Any one heard anything about the next year Ody? Just thought I would try to start this thread up again.

vaskier

I've been looking at Honda and Toyota vans and would like to get the Honda Touring but will not because of the run flat tires, Has anyone heard if they will option the tires and also when the 07's will come out?

ed2000

How about having the option w/Nav and w/o RES? EXL or Touring. Don't really like the idea of letting the kids watching tv on the road, already too much tv at home. :mad:

charlos1

Is there any truth to the rumor that Honda is increasing the size of the Rear Entertainment System Screen for the Odyssey?

dsrtrat2

'07s are at the dealers for some makes and models, I'm just a wondering if anyone has some info on the ODY.

mevande

Dear ed2000;
Too much TV at Home?! Try a vacation w/o DVD for 12 hours and you will change your mind. You won't hear one "are we there yet" I agree for around town, but for medium size drives (2 hours plus) its a godsend! I don't have any Ody, considering one and it will have RES if I buy one. The car I have has DVD (Dual one's mounted on the headrests of the front seats) and 6 and 13 yr old love them on short vacations (weekend trip) or longer, ie 6-8 hours. After 8 hours.. we fly:)

bconsi

Word I got is the '07 Odyssey will be in dealerships in September.

dsrtrat2

From all the tales of woe on the PAX tire system it will be interesting to see if big H uses them on the 2007's.

master1

That's not true. A FULL REDESIGNED Odyssey wont be in Sept.

Maybe a freshened 06 will but not a full redesign.

ekhome

Master1, are you saying the 07 will be a full redesign? Does anyone know? I'm close to pulling the trigger on an 06 now. It would help if I knew the 07 was going to have significant changes. Thanks.

rorr

"That's not true. A FULL REDESIGNED Odyssey wont be in Sept."

hey master1, NOBODY said ANYTHING about a full redesigned Odyssey. You might want to go back and re-read bconsi's post.

The only thing that was stated was that the '07 models would be in the dealership in September.

Beyond that little comment, I agree with you: the '07 models should see a very minor freshening (if any). If I understand Honda's product cycles, they typically run about 4 years between major redesigns. The previous generation ran for 4 years ('01 thru '04), so the current generation should run from '05 thru '08. The earliest I'd expect a full redesign should arrive in the fall of '08 as the '09 model Odyssey.

But it does make sense that there would be a minor freshening mid-cycle......which would be for the coming '07 models.

dudleyr

Actually the previous generation was '99 - 04. Honda uses 5 or 6 year cycles these days. They quit the 4 year cycles in the mid 90's.

Now they typically give a refresh after 3 years and replace after 5 years. Longer for some models. Toyota is about the same.

rorr

Thanks - I stand corrected.

So, if we assume a freshening after 3 years, a freshened Odyssey won't hit until the '08 models.

dsrtrat2

If these critters are coming out in August I would think there should be some guesstimate on a release date. Anyone have a clue??

day54

Does anyone know approximately how much the price will increase for the 2007 Honda Odyssey EX-L? With the new model year, can you still get quotes for under invoice or is this just something that happens at the end of the model year?

davidd3

Apparently just like you, I am in a position of either getting one of the last of the 2006s or one of the first of the 2007s. I believe that the purchase price difference will be huge, but of course we are just guessing what the first of the 2007s will sell for. I have been driving Odys for the past 10 years. About to get another. I have never seen discounts nearly this steep. The price in my area is 500 to 1,500 below, or put another way 3,500 to 4,500 below MSRP. My guess is that you will do well to get half this discount on a 2007 early in the model year. So I'm aiming for a great deal on a 2006. And it could be that the smaller discount will be coupled with an increase in both the MSRP and the invoice, which would create an even wider difference in purchase prices comparing the last of the 2006s to the first of the 2007s.

odiopus

Not sure of the source:

http://www.aussiemotoring.com/?p=176

First time I have seen anything regarding the 07 Odyssey and not sure if this is for U.S Market...

Odiopus

rorr

You'll note that the writeup regarding changes to the '07 Odyssey (Australian market) involve "...revised grille, bumpers and rear lights. Side indicators have also been added to the side mirrors."

You'll also note that the 'Odyssey' pictured is COMPLETELY different from the U.S. market (swingout rear doors like the 1st gen U.S. market Ody instead of sliding doors just to name the first thing I noticed).

I think those changes have nothing to do with the U.S. market.

mdavis99

I'm new to this but can see how it might become addictive....We're trying to decide between buying our leased Acura MDX that we love or turning it in and buying an Odyssey EX-L RES. Our 2nd child is due any day. Few questions:

1. What type of discount should I get on a 2006 vs. a 2007? Trying to decide if I should wait for 2007's especially if they can't find the color I want in an '06.
2. Any thoughts on the MDX vs. the Odyssey? Both have 3 rows of seats..van slightly bigger but not as much as I thought....
3. I read something here about the 2007 having a larger RES screen..Anyone else heard that?

Thanks!
Mike

gtwendt

Comparison - I currently own a MDX and am looking to get an Odyssey instead.

Answer to #1 - cannot help you there.

#2 - Yes they both have 3 rows, but the third row in the MDX is basically useless with kids. We have a 9 month old and since there is no latch system in the center seat we have her seat on the passenger side (one of the reasons). That is side to enter the third row.... Needless to say only way in is through the hatchback - because I am not taking the seat base in and out all the time. I think this would be a problem with the car seat in the center as well. Another issue with car seats is there is not a lot of room between the front seat and the second seat, so the front passenger seat is nearly all the way forward to get her car seat in the second row. Not a great option if you are tall like I am. If the child is in a booster seat all is well with that, but we are not there yet - but you still have the issue of getting to the third seat.

As for storage, there is a good amount in the MDX, but we run out and we only have 1 kid. She does have a large stroller though.

We are looking at the Touring Odyssey, and the wife just loves the power doors and lift gate. She has issues with the MDX lift gate. It is heavy and she cannot reach it that well.

#3 - don't know.

Hope this helps. If you have specific questions, just email me.

mdavis99

Hey, thanks! Sounds like you and your wife have the same discussions as we do. Agree on everything you say.

I think our real problem is giving up the "look" of the MDX and going for the "practicality" of the van. The Odyssey is no doubt very nice on the inside...but it seems a lot of people give us a hard time on giving in to the minivan idea (who cares, right!). It's hard for me to spend more money on a minivan that doesn't look "cool" when I have a perfectly good MDX that costs less and looks good. I know it all sounds pretty stupid....

We have a 3 year old and the MDX has been just fine. However, we have another baby coming any time (induced tomorrow) so the minivan is sounding a little better.

Also struggling with whether or not $20K is an ok price to pay for the MDX (residual value). Trade in is around 18K and retail is around 22K...not sure what the best financial decision is.

Thanks for listening!

gtwendt

Yes it does. We might solve the problem by trading the wife's 3.2TL and get the Odyssey. That way we have both worlds. Something for mom and dad, and something for the family. It is just hard to go back to 2 car payments.

Anyone know if the 07 Odyssey will have bluetooth with the NAVI?

mdavis99

Wow...too strange. We've had this same discussion too as our 2nd car is a 3.2TL...Love Acuras. So, we discussed trading the TL in for the van and keeping the MDX. Problem with that is that I like my TL. Glad to know others have the same issues as I do....

Let me know what you decide...2006 vs. 2007 Odyssey, what to do with MDX, TL, etc. Good luck!

davidd3

Mike,

Here's my 2 cents worth. Hope it's helpful.

"1. What type of discount should I get on a 2006 vs. a 2007? Trying to decide if I should wait for 2007's especially if they can't find the color I want in an '06."

If you are buying, you will get a much better price on the last of the 2006s as compared to the first of the 2007s. There is $500 marketing support (manufacturer to dealer cash), which makes it easy in most places to buy a 2006 Ody at invoice minus $500. Also, there's low interest rate financing - 2.9% up to 36 months and 4.9% up to 60 months.

If you are leasing, then you may as well wait for a 2007. Notwithstanding steep discounts on the last of the 2006s, monthly lease payments are high because the current leasing program is so bad (a market money factor coupled with low residuals). I'm looking for a better lease program when the 2007s come out. At least residuals should be much higher, which should help a lot.

"2. Any thoughts on the MDX vs. the Odyssey? Both have 3 rows of seats..van slightly bigger but not as much as I thought...."

Your eyes must be playing tricks on you. Look at the specs. The Ody has nearly double the roominess of the MDX.
The 3rd row of the MDX is cramped and difficult to access. Not meant for adults or teens.

That said, with only 2 kids, I would think the MDX is spacious enough.

I have 3 kids, 2 of them teenagers. I looked at a whole host of 3-row SUV and crossover alternatives, including the MDX. Those that are in a similar price range to the Ody are much too small. Those that are big enough are prohibitively more expensive and awful on gas. To me, the Ody is the best value and most practical choice.

"3. I read something here about the 2007 having a larger RES screen..Anyone else heard that?"

I have no idea.

It may interest you to know that while I have the RES in my 2004 Ody, I have decided not to get it again on my 2006 or 2007. I found that we didn't get much use out of it and that usage diminished over time. Cool at first. But after the novelty wears off, it is hard to justify this costly ($1,500) option. You could get each kid a handheld DVD player for a small fraction of the cost.

mdavis99

This helps a lot...thanks for your perspective. I just found a black one w/o DVD...perhaps you're right that we could live w/o that....

davidd3

Another consideration, taking into account the high price of gas these days, is that not only does the Ody (especially higher trim levels with VCM) get substantially better gas mileage than the MDX, but the Ody uses regular gas whereas the MDX requires premium gas.

If 4WD is important to you, check out the Sienna because it's still somehow not available on an Ody.

oneils

I'm so confused. Presently, my husband and I have an '05 Pilot and '99 Altima. We are trying to decide which car to trade in for the Odyssey.

We have 2 kids (8 and 2) and 1 on the way. I'm trying to make the most economica sense out of our car situation. The Pilot can fit all 3, but it will be tight. Neither of us are car people, so if the Altima goes out, we will be paying a lot to fix it.

So, what do we do? Trade in the Pilot for the Odyssey and fix up the Altima until it's paid off next year or trade in the Altima which will leave us terribly upside down and get the Odyssey. (The other thing is that I don't like the idea of 2 big cars.)

Any help thinking me through this would be appreciated!