Honda Odyssey Future Models

davidd3

I think we need more info before offering suggestions. In particular, it would be helpful to know at least the following:

1. Your 1999 Altima. Do you own it or lease it? In either case, what is the monthly payment and how much longer do you have to go? How many miles does it have? What kind of costly repairs are you anticipating?

2. Your 2005 Pilot. Do you own it or lease it? In either case, what is the monthly payment and how much longer do you have to go?

dsrtrat2

Before deciding on the Touring model be sure to read the thread on PAX tires.

davidd3

"Before deciding on the Touring model be sure to read the thread on PAX tires."

Excellent point!

Too bad there's some nice features (such as power hatch) that you can only get on the Touring model which comes with those PAX tires.

Could be another reason to wait for the 2007s, though I do not know if Honda is making any changes in these respects (be it either more features available on the EX trim line, or get-flat tires on the Touring model).

rorr

"Could be another reason to wait for the 2007s, though I do not know if Honda is making any changes in these respects (be it either more features available on the EX trim line, or get-flat tires on the Touring model)."

I wouldn't count on Honda having an option of 'normal' non-RFTs on the Touring anytime soon. I've heard scuttlebutt that if anything, Honda will be expanding the 'availability' (ie: standard equipment) of PAX tires on some Accords and the Acura RL (for either '07 or '08 models).

A better bet might be Honda offering the power rear hatch to the EX-L. But I haven't heard anything to that effect either.

davidd3

If run flat tires are referred to as "RFTs," let's refer to normal tires as "GFTs." "GFTs" stands for get flat tires.

dsrtrat2

Jt sounds like there are a lot of people who are in need of some good poop on the '07s. Any one out there with reliable data?

oneils

Well. . .thank you for responding. To answer your questions:

1. We own the Altima. However, it's probably under one of th worst loan plans known to man. The payments are under $300 and it will be paid off sometime next year. It has about 122k miles and I have no idea what type of repairs to expect.

2. We own the Pilot. The monthly payment is $450 with a really good interest rate, but I think I did it for 5 years - thinking that at some point we would just pay more on the principal but of course that has yet to happen. We have about 4 more years to go. . .

davidd3

My suggestion is to maintain the status quo for a while after the new baby and see how it goes. The Pilot can fit your 3 kids, though it wouldn't be the first choice of vehicles for most people with 3 kids (myself included). Re-evaluate next year when you get the Altima paid off. If you want to trade the Pilot in on an Odyssey (which probably makes the most sense), do it at a time when the trade in value of your Pilot equals or exceeds the balance owing on your loan. It will probably take about 3 years into your 5 year loan. Trading it in right now would probably be a very costly proposition.

Segwaying back to the topic of this forum, I think that you should wait for a future Odyssey.

gtwendt

I hear what you guys are saying about the RFT's. My wife likes the jumpseat for the middle of the second row on the EX-L better than the no option for that on the Touring. I sure wish they would do this for the EX-L in '07
1 - Bluetooth handsfree on the NAV system
2 - Powerlift hatch
3 - 110 power ports in the back

Or Give the option of no RFT on the Touring - but add the bluetooth handsfree to the NAV.

samnoe

All of the above, but simplify the climate controls for all (but the LX). The LX is just a pleasure to use with simple rotary dials, but from the EX and up (the automatic version) is just annoying.

gene00

Almost my exact wishlist.

My preferred configuration would be an EX-L plus(ranked in order of importance):
nav w/ bluetooth (integrated hands-free phone = big deal for me)
memory seat
power tailgate
upgraded stereo
110v ports

i.e. a Touring w/o Pax or 2nd row center console.

tmedema

I would love Honda to offer their 07 Touring model with
the plus one seat as well as the entertainment system optional which my wife prefers books rather than T.V..
for the children
We will trade in our 06 EXL Odyssey if you can pull this off. Honda, are you listening?

Also How about a Touring model for the 07 Pilot including an
extended sky roof and upgraded stereo for starters?
or can Acura offer an 8 seat version like the Pilot?

Best regards,

I Luv Hondas

Honda are you listening

dsrtrat2

If Honda is listening it won't make it this model year. Don't know the lead time required to make any changes, but I'll bet a bunch it is longer than a couple of months.

scottmt

No planned changes on 07's. In fact, if you visit a dealership and look near the business manager's office, you might find a box of NEW 07 brochures - exactly the same as the 06 brochures. That is not to say that a 07/1/2 model might not emerge with some enchancements.

sma3

Early reports from those with an '07 Ody brochures at another site are
that updates are minimal for 2007... another complete joke from Honda.

I can't believe yet another year of no Bluetooth on the Ody.

I did not check that this was accurate... but one user summarized the
'07 changes as:
TPMS on all levels, but only tire specific on Touring
Lazy Susan removed from storage area - except Touring
Telescopic and tilt steering - all levels?
different gear ratios? hence epa mpg lowered by 1
two new colors to replace Sagebrush and Redrock, Nimbus Grey and Dark
Cherry Pearl

nowakj66

Telescoping wheel is significant. I am glad to see Honda adding telescoping wheels to the CR-V, RDX, and Odyssey this year.

davidd3

Information on the 2007 Odyssey can now be found at Honda's website. Based on a quick glance, it looks as though there is a $400 price increase and very few changes - a couple of different color choices and a telescopic steering column, all as noted in previous posts.

stickguy

about what they change in th e3rd year of a new model.

I keep hearing about this new tranny too, not that it would listed on their site I don't think.

Still, the telescopic wheel is a nice addition. It is one thing that our '05 really needs.

chirp

The '07 Touring MSRP is $300 higher, however the Day/night Mirror and Back-up assist which were standard on the '06 are now options to the tune of $279 and $598 respectively. Anyone shopping for a Touring should take note of that change. I have an '06 Touring and both of those options are mandatory for me.

gene00

The "Body-Colored Parking Sensors (front/rear)" are still listed under Standard Features for the 2007 Touring. Don't know why park assist would also be listed under accessories, unless the sensors are there, just not hooked up. That would be lame. BTW - have a day/night mirror on our BMW & I hate it. Just tinges green when headlights hit it from the rear, doesn't dim nearly enough. Would prefer if the 07 Touring didn't have it.

chirp

Perhaps there is a gltch with the "build it" program and the parking assist is included. The day/night mirror works great and you can turn it off with the push of a button. The cargo net(all of $45) appears to be an option as well. The '06 came with the cargo net.
Just seems like Honda is carefully stripping some of the goodies away from the '07 Touring to make it appear the price change is minimal from year-to-year.

pmickle

In addition to the previously mentioned changes to the 2007 Odyssey, I would also like to point out that a Grey Interior is now standard in the Ocean Mist Metallic Touring, and that the color that is replacing Sage Brush Pearl, Nimbus Grey Metallic, comes standard with an Olive Interior on all of the trim lines, as opposed to the 2005 and 2006 Sage Brushes that came with a choice of Ivory or Olive. I also found that most of the Odysseys that came in Sage Brush Pearl had an Ivory Interior. I looked really hard to find one with the Olive, and it looks so much BETTER than Ivory. It hides the dirt better and the biggest thing that I hated on the Ivory, was that the top half of the dashboard was still black with the same brushed silver beneath it. The combination did not look good at all with the bright Ivory color beneath it. I thought that it was rather cheap looking. I also liked the idea of having the less common combination. And not that anyone really cares, but the weight on each trim line has increased by:
LX..............................................................................- ................................................................6 Pounds
EX..............................................................................- ................................................................0 Pounds
EX-L............................................................................- ...............................................................4 Pounds
Touring.........................................................................- ............................................................44 Pounds

I just thought that you might be interested.

georgey

When will the Odyssey get on board with Sienna regarding the AWD ???? Does anyone know????

blackexv6

Probably never. Honda builds cars for the majority & 4WD minivans are definitely the minority in sales volume.

zanmark

I bought a new '07 Ody in November because we are expecting twins in May. I bought the EX-L because I just couldn't see the price premium for the Touring especially being forced into the run-flat tires. My question is if i can get the power liftgate installed in the EX-L or is it built in at the factory. I REALLY want this and almost bought the Toyota but their pricing is whacked! Anyone know if I can get this?

stickguy

not practical, although theoretically you probably could get the liftgate added.

IMO, the cheapest way to get the power gate now is to trade in the EX-L!

georgey

Does anyone know if the Touring Edition is a better Drive than the EX model? I've heard there a difference... Please fill me in...

blackexv6

Depends on what you mean by drive better? DO you mean handling or ability to take road shock?

I drove both the models & found the Touring to be much stiffer on road imperfections. The PAX tires are the main difference - The EX has taller sidewalls which soak up bounces better than the lower profile PAX tires. I've found this same situation with the Honda Accord LX & EX (LX had taller profile tires & rode much better).

I've heard the Touring also has a different front sway bar for handling.

If you are looking for a great "handling" van either one is a good choice - just depends if you want to spend the extra couple thousand for the Touring. If you want a smooth, quiet highway ride with little road shock - look at the Toyota Sienna or another manufacturer.

panmax

If you are seriously considering Touring, be sure you can stand or can afford $1200 for a set of 4 replacement tires and $1600 for a set of 4 snow tires if you need them. Yes, that is really the price. Prices are high, availability and choice low. Only Michelin makes Pax. Only Pax tires fit on Pax rims. Also, very few tire stores service, repair or replace Pax. Few have the attachment to align a Pax car. Dealers are hit and miss. Some cannot repair or replace Pax. And on a weekend, Pax tire service may be unavailable. Michelin and Honda may promise everything but something this new has gaps in real world application and service. There are Pax posts here and elsewhere. Be sure you want all the good and bad features of Pax.

jchan2

The only way for you to get the Power Liftgate without incurring a major expense is to trade it in for an 07 Touring.

And I doubt Honda will ever offer an AWD minivan- they'll just leave that small niche market to Toyota and build models for, perhaps, 90% of minivan buyers.

singh073

In Japan the Odyssey and other Honda Minivans already have AWD as an option! You will definitely see that as a option here in the States sometime soon.

Also for those looking for what the next Odyssey may look like check out Honda's Website in Japan. You will see features from this vehicle called the Honda ELYSION morph over to the next Generation Odyssey.

Honda Elysion

jchan2

that right before the 2005 Odyssey redesign, everybody thought that it would look a lot like the Elysion, yet the Odyssey turned out to be a completely different automobile.

ultfamcar

New to this forum and considering an Odyssey EX-L or Touring. Any news or updates on mid-year refreshening or news on 2008?

Thanks!
Charles

jchan2

Vtec.net is pretty confident that PAX will become optional on Touring models, although that strikes some people as a decision that doesn't make sense, as Honda dealers with the PAX equipment are growing daily.

sahildesai

Does anyone think Honda will make 8 seats as an option for 2008 rather than having the "link" plus 1 that it has today? We are expecting our third child in Aug, and currently drive a 2003 Odyssey LX. Would like to get a three seater second row... would be most happy with a split 60/40 second row instead of three different chairs.. I guess most of the Honda designers are not family men/women with three children..Might have to look at the 8 seater Sienna. I absolutly do not like the looks of the Sienna....

odyarchitect

I doubt it. We have a 06 ODY EX-L and love it (and compared it to the Toyota). We use the 8th chair (clearly the middle/least desirable seat) as the last possible option. We pack 3 (preferrably smaller bodies) in the back BEFORE getting out the middle seat. The middle seat doesn't slide at all so that person is subject to what happens to each chair on the sides and can get into a real lack of elbow room. I prefer to put a child in that seat (that loves the view of the RES, doesn't care about legroom, and it short so they don't block the view of the ones from the back row). Of course we really only use the 8th chair on trips anyway - of which we've done a few now.

Again, I love the Honda ODY...

The gap between the seats is pretty wide making the rear bench pretty accessible/usable. A friend of mine has 4 kids (with a Sienna) and he says they use the 2+2+2 arrangment most of the time anyway.

Can't you just hear it "stop touching me"!

hockeyfool

We have actually had a different experience . . . There are two girls (8 & 10 yo) in our neighborhood that car pool with our 8 yo daughter in our '07 ody. No 1 girl wants to sit in the far back so we put in the center seat. Now they fight over who sits in the center because it has the best view! Even when we are driving with only my daughter in the van, she still chooses to sit in the center.

odyarchitect

Actually, when we load up 7-8 people for trip, my 6-year-old PREFERS the middle seat too. He prefers the best view too.

From my experience, the only complaints about the middle seat come from an adult. It's not so much the sitting experience, it's the coordination with the 2 seats beside them.

On a tangent to this, does it frustrate you that when you lean & slide the middle seats forward to access the rear seat (by lifting the lever on the top of the seat) and the go to slide them back into place, the seat back is leaning too far forward? If I had a nickel for everytime I had to reach down and recline the seat for someone... Adults seem to be baffled/confused by this more than kids.

dbt

You can see part of the grille of the 2008 Odyssey in the following picture (behind red 2008 Accord Coupe):
Spy shot of Accord, with 08 Odyssey behind it

carfun888

Looks like PAX tires on that Accord!!

If that is the case then the Ody Touring won't be droppping them for 08.

dbt

It's looking like the Touring itself is dropped for 08.

See HondaPreview.com

(also some confusion on no current ordering info on NAV, but speculation is that the new nav will debut on Accord with Ipod integration, and then make it available on Ody)

dbt

I may be jumping the gun here: dealers have not been given a model code for the 08 touring as of now, but just as the Nav may come later, so may the Touring.

jchan2

If they dropped the Navigation and Touring models, were people not buying them, or was Honda simplifying trim lines, like Toyota did last year with the Sienna?

And if they're on hiatus, what's causing the delay? Dropping both don't make sense; as the PAX equipment is getting around to more Honda dealers...

I'm betting they shuffled the equipment around and added more content to the LX model...

vader7

Best pic yet of 2008 Odyssey next to 2008 accord:

noworyz

http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/jcf/spyphotoID/6070703.001/honda/2008-honda-odyssey-facelift-spotted

carfun888

That's a Touring (front and rear sensors) with PAX rims/tires. Looks like those wishful thinkers predicting their demise are probably Toyota salesmen

aditya_sen

Hi,

Any idea what's different about the 2007 Odyssey as compared to the 2006 models? I was wondering whether to buy a new 2007 model or a used 2006 one.

Any URLs listing the year-wise feature comparisons for the Odyssey would be great.

Thanks!

Karen_S

There is a Vehicle Comparison tool over on the Edmunds.com site. Perhaps that would be helpful to you.

bobber1

The 07's got a new transmission which is the same design as the Ridgeline. It's supposed to be a little "beefier". It's one of the reasons I got an 07. I think pretty similar other then that.

robr2

Best pic yet of 2008 Odyssey next to 2008 accord:
http://flickr.com/photos/jalopnik/696995100/>

That's a copyrighted picture - hope you're not hosting it yourself.