Jeep Liberty Diesel

winter2

Have you tried "blowing the EGR's nose?"

Here is how you do it.

1. Make sure your CRD is warmed up.
2. Put it in "D" and lockout the overdrive.
3. From a stop or near dead stop floor it and hold the accelerator to the floor until you reach about 60 - 65 MPH. You may see a whole bunch of soot come flying out of the tailpipe.
4. Repeat once or twice more until little or no soot comes out of the tailpipe.
5. Repeat weekly but only once.
6. If you are not using ULSD, add some cetane improver and/or detergent to the fuel. Will help. I have 11K on my CRD and so far so good.

Hope this helps.

modelaford

Whlpny - sounds like you and I have followed similar paths. I traded in an 03' Hemi 1500 for the CRD. I am curious though what sort of problems you had with it, because mine was absolutely trouble free. I mean gas and Oil was all it ever needed - LOTS and LOTS of gas though. Never could get better then 12.5 out of that thing no matter what I did. The CRD has been pretty good to me, but I really miss the truck. Been spending too much time looking at Cummins powered Rams these days. If nothing else, this tiny little CRD has created a Diesel Convert.

nescosmo

Does anyone in Orlando has used ULSD, every where I go all they have is the same old dirty fuel

pttrillium

My experience has been identical to yours. One EGR and updated TSBs. NO other problems and I'm closing in on 30,000 miles. No shudder. I don't have the seat spotting because of leather.

During my trip from MN to SC, I went on the Blue Ridge Parkway for a piece on the return trip. For the 3,000+ mile journey I recall we got 30 mpg.

I feel bad for folks having issues. I'm not even worried about resale because I"m not sellin!

farout

tired old dave: I came to the conclusion that DCX's bed partner Mobil, and the ex lover VM Motori which has been jilted for the MD CRD, refuse to cooperate with each other. How ever DCX does not give a rip for us "test market" buyers as there will be a lot more fish to fry with the 2007 GC CRD. I took the word of V M Motori and put in Shell Rotella 5-40w. I really don't notice any difference except for a quieter idle after 15 seconds after start up.
Dave we did contact the Missouri Att. Generals office. This was a waste of time. All I can see is to bite the bullet.
Last night a deer ran into our CRD and did $2,300. in damages. However the Chrome grill costs only $2.00 more than the green one. My wife wants the chrome one! I am glad the darn deer died! But at least we get a chrome grill.

Farout

farout

smokinclatter: Our son dumped his 5 cylinder after 1 month, the engine dould not pull even 2,500 lbs without over heating. Buyer be ware.

farout

farout

tidester HOST:FOR THOSE OF US THAT DON'T SPELL AS GOOD AS MOST SECOND GRADERS, WHEN WILL THE WORDS NOT SPELLED RIGHT BE IN RED AGAIN?

Farout

farout

goodcrd: I think "fear" often invades us and soon we either fight or flight in our response to"fear" I had someone a long long time ago, in a far far, distant land explain fear to me. F alse
E vidence
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I sometimes read some negative posts and before you know it, I get to feeling negative about my CRD as well.
When I evaluate this CRD against the VW TDI and other diesel vehicles, I don't feel near as bad. Not only that I think that they spent a lot more than I did.
So far I have never been stuck, it's always started, got me where I wanted to go, and for the most part it's been kinda fun as well. I get a kick when someone comes running and shouting "that's diesel". Not only that but it's fun leaving other Liberty's in the dust, as I spin out, and they want to know what I ve done to it.
The thing that gets me down is hearing a dealer say how they are upset with DCX and how they feel left holding the bag for DCX and the way STAR has done such a poor job in tec assistance.
So I expect our CRD to do about the same for next 83,600 miles. If that happens I will be pleased.

We are looking for a camping trailer and we hope to use it a lot in the next 5 years.

Farout (young at heart and eager to go)

farout

stb: why would you want to know how to do something that is against the law?

signed the EPA

farout

carobou1: I miss your flag. Infact I just remembered where is my flag?

Farout

tidester

FOR THOSE OF US THAT DON'T SPELL AS GOOD AS MOST SECOND GRADERS, WHEN WILL THE WORDS NOT SPELLED RIGHT BE IN RED AGAIN?

I believe that's on the fixit list but I don't have a time frame for it. It's great to know some are making good use of our chell specker!

tidester, host

nescosmo

Farout....I hope the damage was not to brutal and sorry about the animal. Some of this peaple do not take care of their vehicle, they think that they have a mule that is why some of the things that happen to them is not because a bad vehicle but because they are brutal to their vehicle. for good or bad DC is always there to take care of the CRD; I am like you ours will last for ever.

tired_old_dave

We are glad that you won and the deer lost. I believed you and the advice from motori. That's my point-we have 18K+ miles of 0w40, and 6K+ of 5w40, through our intake. There is no issue with the new oil with under 2k miles on it. New lower ball joints (will never trust this front end design)and we can't blow its' nose because all we get is redline rpms and very little if any movement. Can't move out in a emergency-can only swerve, or try the brakes. I believe your concern about the 5 cylinder and winter2's concern about 5.3 v8 gas mileage.

I am sick of people going after smokinclatter. If your crd is so great go 4 wheelin with your gift from the german god and don't waste your time telling us about your don't go fast, don't keep up with traffic, 80mpg with the st tires filled to 40psi, and golden nectar for fuel. But wait that sounds just like them. No I am wrong you have just as much right to sing the praises as some to sing a sad song. Mdamick has more mileage than us and waiting to see if the new front tranny pump and another new tc is in the cards.

tired_old_dave

"The thing that gets me down is hearing a dealer say how they are upset with DCX and how they feel left holding the bag for DCX and the way STAR has done such a poor job in tec assistance."

If you remember my posts, heads ought to roll, $10,000 cost for the dealer for crd training, mechanics pay like ford flat rate issues, and dealer scrutiny by dcx for reimbursement. I read a post about an exemption by the epa for this crd to be sold here. With the ccv being disconnected by some, oil in the intake and therefore hopefully through the cataytic converter and out the exhaust(mobil 1 does come out the exhaust it doesn't burn like in a gasser)-I posted (maybe) that the epa, dcx, and vm are in discussions right now. I was hoping the big guns would come to our defense by applying the law. But alas the red states won, whats good for business.

unclebubba

I can't speak to the ULSD in Orlando, however, my cousin in the plains states is an oil distributor explained the ULSD like this. The ULSD is in the pipe line, however, the pipelines are still contaminated with the LSD and will be for some weeks to come. What is coming through the lines is probably around 35ppm diesel due to the contamination, which will eventually be down to 15ppm.
Based on his assessment/explanation of whats happening, what is out there is considerably lower than 500ppm sulfur but can't be sold (obviously) as ULSD.

unclebubba

The last 10,000 miles have been relatively unremarkable, previously on my 05 CRD I had EGR issues. Once this was addressed, twice, things calmed considerably. Just returned a week ago from a trip out to the plains states and had no problems, performance was above previous expereience.

As many problems as are addressed here, this unit has gotten better with miles driven. It will be a year old the end of August. I wish everyone had my dealer service department, they were very responsive to any concern I had and absolutely badgered STAR until a resolution was acheived. Maybe that's it! :surprise: Maybe other dealers just won't deal with STAR as tenaciously as mine has. After all, it's not their car, it's yours! Laziness abounds in this world. You should get more than most give when you've invested so much money into something.

caribou1

farout, I carry the flag of my host country but I buy what suits me best :shades:

new2diesel

Since I started the Transmission trouble tread I think it is only fair that I finish it. Here is the rest of the story. After alot I time, aggrevation and unhelathy blood pressure I did get the repairing dealer and DCX to put me in a rental. As I stated last week, they think the problem is the trans cooler being to small which overheats the fluid and damges the pump. The damaged pump then damages the Torque Converter. The Service manager said they are putting a larger (how will I really know) cooler in it and replacing the pump and torque converter. The parts are taking 7 days to arrive so they won't be here until Friday. I assume this will fix the problem for a while. I also have stated that I have been looking at other vehicles to buy. The choice for me came down to Toyota, Honda and Hyundai after a week of research. Last night I went to make the purchase and trade the CRD (even though it is in for warranty repair), None of the dealers seemed to care that it was in for warranty repairs (that was a good sign). Now here is the horrific news - the trade in was only worth $12,500 -$13,500 yes you read that right. This is a 05 Sport with towing package and other options that I bought new 9 months ago. This is a 50% loss in 9 months. They use the black book for trade-in and went online to do their research. He said there are alot of these on the market, dealers are offering big incentives, and no one wants them. I left the dealer insulted and went to Hyundai where they worked a better deal but not much.

So the good news is I am out from under this beast. Sadly I really liked this vehicle until I started having problems and experienced their don't give a poop attitude. If so many of you think these are such great vehicles then why do they have the worst resale I have ever experienced? It can't be the diesel, just look at VW TDI's. The used ones are selling for about what they paid for them new if you can find one. This vehicle was a good idea but poorly researched and executed and we are the suckers that will pay dearly. If you have a trouble free one you better plan on keeping it and driving the heck out of it because it isn't worth anything on the street. I feel like such a SUCKER! I knew deep down when I bought this that I should not have bought American - I knew it , I knew it, I knew it! I know I will hear back from some of you about the problems with Japanease vehicles - yes I'm realistic, but they (Japanese vehicles) wouldn't be at the top of the list for fewest problems per 100 vehicles if they were not reliable. If anyone out there is considering this vehicle - All I can say is buyer beware - you have been warned. Unfortunately instead of being happy about buying a new vehicle, I feel sick over being robbed by Jeep/Chrysler.

I hope you all can persevere and work through the issues with these vehicles. Like I said, good idea - bad execution. :lemon:
Happy Trails. :sick:

stever

If anyone lives near a CarMax, maybe you can stop by for a couple of hours to get a quote and find out how much they will give you for your CRD.

TMV says an '05 Sport is worth around $18k, but books don't buy cars.

05crdjeep

I feel really bad for anyone who has to trade a year old car off. Ouch.

I have been successful in getting Kelly Blue book (am I allowed to mention that here in TMV land??? :-), private party value or better for every car I've traded (5 cars). The car salesmen usually are beating their heads on the desk blotter by the time I'm done with them. I have found the TMV values to be very accurate as well. On this one I think the less than stellar resale has something to do with this being a Liberty not just the diesel bit.

Here's what I found based only on what I bought, for comparison purposes.

Mine stickered new for $30,400 (I got nearly everything except side air bags and the nav system).
I paid $26,800
Kelly private party price is $21,990
Kelly trade-in price is $18,725
The same exact vehicle with the V6 trade-in: 16,725

The diesel price difference new wasn't more than $1000 but I figure these numbers are guesses at best and it looks like a bad deal no matter what kind of engine you have. I think they are being optimistic about slightly-less amount of depreciation for the diesel (around $1000).

These are lously resale values no matter how you look at it. And it's just plain depressing to think about it.

kphouston

Well now that O5crdjeep just put my day in the crapper. I looked up my 06 crd and they say its worth 22,500 about $5000 off of window sticker for a SUV 1 month old. I will say that this is the first none Ford I have owned in 8 years and it will be the last. I knew it would drop by $1500 to $2000 driving it off the lot but Dang this is a joke

new2diesel

I hate to be the bummer here but I'd be shocked if you got anywhere near $22,500 for it. I seriously doubt you could get muc over $17,000 based on what I experienced. I appraised mine on Kelley, Edmunds, and NADA, printed them out and handed them to the appraiser. They still use the lowest number in the "black book" they can find because they believe they will not sell on their lots. They know that these vehicles have a bad rap and they also know they will be forced to wholesale them at auction based on the black book value. You may get lucky and find a dealer that doesn't do his home work but they won't be in business long if that is how they operate. I was shocked beyond words. I went in telling them I was expecting $18,000 in trade only to hear $12,500 - $14,000. The other dealer really worked with me and I got "$15,500" but that was all smoke and mirrors because of the markup in the sales price of the new vehicle.

The only good news I see in all this is that in 5 years they will still probably be worth the same amount since they are 4x4's. These suckers are pretty much fully depreciated in 1 year. The only worse investment I have ever made was some dot.com stock in 2000! Oh well, its only money!

smokinjoe

Thanks Winter2,
I have heard that referred to a lot but never came across such a detailed explanation. I will sure give it a try. I don't believe we have ULSD yet. I am in Northern IL.
I always uses Stanadyne Performance formula that does have Cetane improver.

Thanks again,
Joe

tired_old_dave

Didn't you read my earlier post-$14K but why don't you try california. we didn't get $7K-$8K off of sticker in feb '05. Why do you think my posts were trying to prevent each of us from taking thousands of dollars of hit each when dcx should take the hit for merchantibility.

smokinclatter-looked at the H3 and came in thru service and found a helpful mechanic who spent some time answering my questions at Classic Hummer in Grapevine, Tx. an '07 3.7 H3 just made it into the list.

05crdjeep

Sorry about that. But run numbers on any car and I think they all look horrible after a year.

We're not taking into account the fact that a Grand Cherokee diesel is coming out and that will make the Liberty look less orphanish.

Additionally, most people don't sell their rigs after a year.

For me, I'd have a hard time parting with this thing, I really like it and it has been remarkably problem free.

steve05

After a little research on resale - I got pretty much the same numbers as everyone else. Here in Michigan there are literally oodles of Libbys on the road. Lots and lots and lots of them. All over the road. This is the simple explanation for a low resale. I really don't think it has much to do with the engine. A co-worker of mine loves hers, at 25K, has never had a problem, never heard any rumors of all these issues, and her husband works for Daimler. I still love mine at 5200 miles, no problems, 25 mpg when I go 62, 22 in the city, I pull a 3500 # trailer with no effort, new iPod adapter from Daimler and new factory sub! B20 last 2 tanks @ 2.959/ gal.

pttrillium

You got the factory iPod adapter?
When did you get it? After or before new vehicle delivery? What sound system do you have (6 disk in dash??) Is the plug thing in the glove box? What could I expect to pay? A friend of mine has a setup in his BMW and I checked the Apple site and it said Jeep had a factory setup available. My dealer was unaware of it.

I'm also wondering if anyone has managed to add UConnect on an 05 or later Liberty after the fact. It is the only option I regret not getting.

Thanks very much.

gerbs

I have a crd build date 4-05. It has 11,596 miles. Filled up tank today $2.94 gal. Gas is at $3.17. Fuel mileage average 30 mpg. This is the first time I got it that high. I usually average 24 mpg. I have had it to the dealer 2 times. Once when I first got it and the cruse did not work. (was not turned on at the factory) and once for the free oil change. I use it to tow my boat and I does it with no problem. I plan on keeping it for at least 10 yrs (which I have for the last 2 of my vehicles), and if you base your cost of owning a vehicle and spread it out over time the depreciation is much less. I researched the vehicle before I bought it and found nothing that came close to it in what I wanted to use it for.
Why is it that some individuals have to convince us that we made a bad decission in buying a crd?
I wonder why I keep looking at the forum and see all negative things that help no one and are not necessary.

siberia

I just did a national search on a very well known car selling website looking for 05 and 06 Jettas and Libertys new and used and found:

291 Jetta TDI $19,880 lowest price

1,952 Jetta non-diesel $14,888 lowest price

385 CRD $18,941 lowest price

4,435 Liberty non-diesel $12,990 lowest price

This site advertises for people and companies that do sell cars. Sure some will deal a little and some will deal a little more. But, for the most part, this talk of low value is just silliness. It's simple economics. The only way your CRD is only worth $15,000 on trade is if you let a dealer take you for it. :surprise:

new2diesel

Gerbs,
Personally I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I have made my decision and will live with it. May I remind you that the purpose of this board is to exchange ideas, information and experiences. The experiences I described in this board are very real. They are the kind of experiences I wish I knew about before I made my decision to buy this vehicle. Knowledge is power. If you don't want to know what is going on with the same vehicle you purchased, just stick you head in the sand and pretend everything is perfect. Grow up and get a sense of reality. Some of these vehicles are good and will be for the life of them. But a disproportinate number are not. If you do have a problem, you will come running back to this board and beg for answers and advice. Trust me on that one. I am very thankful to everyone who has posted here - both positive and negative. It helped me very much as I was left to blow in the wind by Jeep/Chrysler. I hope your day never comes - I don't wish my luck with this vehicle on anyone. Good luck with yours - two months ago I was as happy as you and thought I would keep this until the wheels feel off. Unfortunately the wheels feel off in 9 months and 20,000 miles. Good luck. Everyone else - Thank you all for your advice and open sharing of ideas. I appreciate it. This will probably be my last post since I pick up my next vehicle tomorrow. I will probably drop in from time to time just to see how things are going. I wish you all the best with your CRD's. God Speed and Good luck. New2diesel

dllindsey

I did not give you enough history on the 05 CRD- We have been to three different dealerships for the repairs across LA and MS. It is not a tech problem- it is obviously a manufacturers problem. Forgive my "whining" although I have been without my new vehicle for a total of eight weeks in the first year of ownership.
We have decided not to trade it in due to an $8,000 loss. We have presented the facts of our case to DC and requested an extended warranty package at no additional charge. We'll let you know their reply. DLL

siberia

Smokinjoe, "nose blowing" is the only thing that I disagree on with Winter2.

If you use the button on your gear shift lever, lock the tranny out of over drive and run 55 mph at 2,500 rpm your EGR valve will full open. Then floor it up a steep hill, if you want to, and you will get just as much benefit as the valve closes under heavy load. In 3rd gear with the torque converter locked the ratio is 1:1 and you are safely not using the clutches and gears in the tranny - except for the TC clutch.

If you enjoy wide open throttle through the gears then go ahead. It's just not necessary.

I made it 22k miles on the 1st EGR valve driving easy without "nose blowing." Oddly enough, my EGR valve stuck closed after the third tank of fuel with cetane number improver.

smokinclatter

CAUTION ! CAUTION ! WHINNING AHEAD !!That may be a good idea ( free extended warranty ). I have moved my CRD down in the pecking order to 3rd position (not primary driver ). Which is too bad --I like the way it drives when driving, sounds when running, off road ability when not on the rack. The trade-in and lemmon law presents a large loss-- so I'll forget those options for a while. This will keep the miles down. Mine seems to need big repairs at about the same time the oil changes are due. (every 6500 miles)
I hope you do well with Chrysler Customer Service, my experience is a lot of polite concern until it gets down to doing something. It's like they send you thru one door to a higher up---then thru another door to a hire up--then he sends you thru a door...you look around and you're out in the alley.

tired_old_dave

Siberia, was it you a long time back who first advised not to use caribou1's blow the snots out(apparently used in Europe)? I did the nose blowing once or twice and then I remembered the caution. When I paid to have the tranny fluid changed, I hoped that the mechanic would report on the pan etc. I suspected that the inability to pull full throttle while at highway speed was tranny clutch related and not the TC. But now you have me thinking tc clutch but I thought it was for lockup only.

"Oddly enough,..." that usually gets me the - That's anecdotal.

farout

tired old dave: Hey I sure hope nothing I said makes you upset. I dumped the ST tires when it had just 300 miles on them weak little passenger tires. Those tires are too much to worry about on the roads we live on. Heck I try and keep it down below 96 mph, especially in the school zones. I finally got some real great fuel mileage! I got 39.7 mpg. I put in 8 quarts of cetain booster, and put 60 lbs of air in the tires, and a K&M super air cleaner, a provent, and the new ULSD rated at 53 cetain and 1 gallon og injector cleaner. I pretty much spent $75. in addatives and 20 cents more a gallon for the ULSD, but heck so what if I spent $4.96 a mile to get the 39.7 mpg.
Dave I am fibben just a little, I really only got 38.9 mpg.

Farout

nescosmo

Siberia.... Be aware that by doing that you could blow your glow plugs. It happen to me 2 times.

tired_old_dave

I wish we still had a 12 yr old toyota or something to fall back on. Did that once but got tired of three different everythings. 3rd driving position doesn't exist and never had to worry about it before. Could always jump in either of our vehicles with that late night call about a family member somewhere. That's why the tranny question to siberia. One option is to return to that sympathetic female service writer after the middle of next month and see about a trannysectomy. It would be nice to have a vehicle other than one than burns gas but the equation is complete only if it can get you there.

nescosmo

New2diesel... Knowledge is power you said well if you are considering buying a Hyundai BEWARE, you have been warned. Wish you well.

tired_old_dave

My better half just got a chuckle too and said it was very nice to see your funny side. You are smarter than me. I waited until I spun out to buy tires. I couldn't believe how bad they were (twist into a pretzel?) and then checking the goodyear site, even they had it at or near the very bottom of their own list. You and smokinclatter and maybe us-fix and keep the jeep to keep the trade in loss down but that doesn't stop the monthy payments. I guess I need to run the numbers but guess that all that accomplishes is paying down my own loss and having a vehicle we can't depend on.

farout

Tired old dave; LLoyd Belt (my dealer) told me that DCX is again offering the Liberty CRD classes, as the class fills up the start a new one.
I read onMikes totally free Jeep news the 3.7 and 3.8 are going to be history. How soon is just a guess. They also sorta discribe the 2008 Liberty. Sounds like the Nitro gets the good stuff first.
I asked my tec what they did to my trany, and he said the TC was replaced and some pump. I thought is tas just a filter and some fluid, golly gee goomer at the Mayberry fillin station must of gotten his message to them big boys at DCX....ya think?

Farout (and forever young)

farout

caribou1: what's the most miles (or KM) on a VM Motori you have known of? The Overland Park Jeep says they have seen one with 70,000+ miles on it. We now have 17,400 on ours, diesel is $2.999 a gallon here, unl reg is $2.899 The local school district buys it next year for $2.499, I do not think they pay taxes as we do.

Farout

siberia

Somtimes it helps me to make a list of positives and negatives when re-evaluating a decision.

Positives

Fuel economy - capable of 30+ mpg highway
Diesel is the fuel of the future
Ideal transmission shift points and gear ratios
Towing capacity
Can drop a 500 lb tongue weight on hitch without squatting vehicle
Does not have 3rd row seat
Maneuverability (short vehicle and turning radius)
Firm comfortable seats
Very strong top and structure in rollover
Relatively heavy for a compact SUV
Easy access to spare tire and jack
Does not have independent rear suspension
Window controls in center is a safety feature with small children
Good cargo capacity for short vehicle
Good ride for short vehicle
Simple, capable and versatile 4WD system
Easy to service basic maintenance (access to filters)
Easy to remove EGR valve for cleaning.
Can use diesel exhaust smoke to James-Bond-cloud mid-life crisis Miatas that are following too close – clean exhaust, otherwise
Very solid rattle free vehicle
Diesel engine starts easy and drives well when cold
Rates high in fun to drive category
Personality of 4 cylinder diesel engine – can be heard, but not too noisy relaxing sound
Diesel sound irritates drivers in nearby Lexus requiring window rollup
Limited production could eventually enhance resale value
Microsloth style software updates can improve vehicle reliability and operation without major repairs
No spark plugs
Most of the areas that are likely to rust are plastic
Secret compartment for owner’s manual
Don’t know what top speed is, don’t care
Not everybody has one

Negatives

Cloth seats can water-spot
EGR valve may need to be serviced once in a while
Spare tire interferes with some towing configurations
Apparently attracts deer
Front ball joints need to be inspected maybe more than average vehicle
Limited production could affect some parts availability and cost
Requires synthetic oil but long service interval

farout

new2diesel. Off hand it's the dealer who bought your CRD that robbed you. If you were willing to sell it for so little then the ball is back in your court. The dealer told you what you expected to hear.
I sincerely hope this works out good for you, and this Hyundai lives up to your expectations.

Farout

zachinmi

Can someone explain to me what the complaint is with the stock tires? I have stock tires on mine and find them fine for all uses, including long freeway driving and driving on thick snow and icy pavement (I'm in Michigan). Just wondering.

farout

kphouston: I don't have a clue to how old you are. But most any boy past the 10th grade can tell you that the 1st years depreciation takes at least 25 to 30% off the first year. If you buy a vehicle on a 72 month contract you are up to your eye balls in being upside down as to cash value. With all these rebates and special pricing deals they amount to nothing but a return of an overcharge. Which makes your 1st to 3rd year of ownership a real bad time to trade it in.
There is only one way to beat the vehicle dropping in value......Drive your kids car,or your daddies car.

VEHICLES ARE NOTHING BUT A MONEY PIT!

Farout

siberia

T-O-D, That's a long time back. I think that my argument was that it could be a false economy to run a vehicle wide open through the gears just to save an EGR valve. I don't know if it works or not. I don't think we have seen definitive evidence either way since the EGR valves still fail, stick, or whatever with various styles of driving.

As to the torque converter, I get lockup in 3rd, 4th, and 5th. The inability to pull full throttle for me is that the transmission downshifts before full torque can be obtained in 4th or 5th. Locked up in 3rd gear, I have to stand on it on steep hills to maintain 50 mph (GVW 9800 lbs), but it hangs in there and does not unlock. Not sure if this answers your question.

tired_old_dave

If this was an old mercedes, what was it a 200d, 220d, 240d, that I first saw driven by a travelling salesman then I might agree. He had 200K/300K miles and while it belched smoke, couldn't pull out faster than a turtle, he said it let him cruise the states he covered on cheap diesel.

Someone here posted about the expensive parts after 100k miles and maybe how he might go back to a gasser. For the price of the turbo, one can buy one heck of a motor for a gasser. Comfort, quality of the jack's hollow tube, and the such are of a subjective nature. Even the edsel became valuable after some time had passed. We have lsd, how much of a 4wd is the crd with open dif's that some others have? Nothing is recommended to be added to the front of the crd, even lights(cooling?) let alone a winch. Who else has considered a rear locker and a sfa conversion?

tired_old_dave

Thank you. At 60 or 70 mph flat land, pressing the accelerator to pass, for example, the tach goes to redline and speed increases ~ 1 mph every 2 seconds.

siberia

Nescosmo, thanks for the warning.

tired_old_dave

Go to a goodyear store and ask to see a new unmounted ST. You will immediately see what you have been riding on.