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2015 Nissan Pathfinder Lease Questions

PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAMember Posts: 9,372
edited April 2015 in Nissan
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  • albe3albe3 Member Posts: 83
    Check this out. Too high I believe

    Vehicle: 2015 NISSAN PATHFINDER 2WD 25115 4dr Wgn S
    Stock #:
    VIN:
    Miles: 0
    PURCHASE OPTION
    Vehicle Price: $30,765.00
    AutoNation Savings: - $1,778.00
    Customer Rebate: - $2,500.00
    AutoNation Price: $26,487.00

    Sales Tax (estimate): + $1,849.31
    Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $295.00
    Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $6.50
    Dealer Service Fee: + $699.95
    Balance Due (estimate): $29,337.76
    No Trade-In
    LEASE OPTIONS
    Cash Due 36 months
    Rebates: $2,425
    12,000 Miles
    $0 $393
    $600 $374
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212
    albe3 said:

    Check this out. Too high I believe

    Vehicle: 2015 NISSAN PATHFINDER 2WD 25115 4dr Wgn S
    Stock #:
    VIN:
    Miles: 0
    PURCHASE OPTION
    Vehicle Price: $30,765.00
    AutoNation Savings: - $1,778.00
    Customer Rebate: - $2,500.00
    AutoNation Price: $26,487.00

    Sales Tax (estimate): + $1,849.31
    Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $295.00
    Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $6.50
    Dealer Service Fee: + $699.95
    Balance Due (estimate): $29,337.76
    No Trade-In
    LEASE OPTIONS
    Cash Due 36 months
    Rebates: $2,425
    12,000 Miles
    $0 $393
    $600 $374

    I get $371.92 with your numbers, so a bit less than the dealer quote of $393. They might be inflating the MF on you for a bit of extra profit.

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  • albe3albe3 Member Posts: 83
    Does anyone have new numbers ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    albe3 said:

    Does anyone have new numbers ?

    2015 Pathfinder S 4X2, 36mo, 12K/yr.

    .00003 MF and 51% residual

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  • albe3albe3 Member Posts: 83
    Thx so how much Im lookintg now?
    Pathfinder S MSRP $31,160
    Sales Price $26487 TRUECAR (I will deal with dealer later :) )
    36 month 10 K
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212
    albe3 said:

    Thx so how much Im lookintg now?
    Pathfinder S MSRP $31,160
    Sales Price $26487 TRUECAR (I will deal with dealer later :) )
    36 month 10 K

    $295.59/mo pre-tax.

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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaMember Posts: 186
    Can you please run the numbers for me assuming top tier credit: 2015 Pathfinder SL AWD w/ tech package, 36 mo. lease, 12k miles, zero down. Cap cost $35,000. plus california tax 8.75%.
    The sale price would be $34,100, I'm adding into the cap cost the acquisition fee for the lease.
  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaMember Posts: 186
    I pointed out to a dealer that they were inflating their MF even though I have top tier credit. His response? The MF goes up when it's a zero down deal. Does that sound right? the dealer then goes on to say honesty is the best policy.
  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaMember Posts: 186
    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.


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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaMember Posts: 186
    kyfdx said:

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.

    The MSRP is 41,080; sale price is 34,100; net cap cost is $36,572
    36mo 12k lease with zero down.

    what's your reply to a dealer saying the MF goes up with a zero down lease?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212

    kyfdx said:

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.

    The MSRP is 41,080; sale price is 34,100; net cap cost is $36,572
    36mo 12k lease with zero down.

    what's your reply to a dealer saying the MF goes up with a zero down lease?
    We only have one MF for Nissan; dealer is allowed to mark up the MF for more profit. Perhaps they are couching that mark up as a "zero down" thing.

    Perhaps another Nissan dealer will be more transparent?

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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaMember Posts: 186
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.

    The MSRP is 41,080; sale price is 34,100; net cap cost is $36,572
    36mo 12k lease with zero down.

    what's your reply to a dealer saying the MF goes up with a zero down lease?
    We only have one MF for Nissan; dealer is allowed to mark up the MF for more profit. Perhaps they are couching that mark up as a "zero down" thing.

    Perhaps another Nissan dealer will be more transparent?
    can you help me learn how to do the math when the cap cost is $36,572 and the mf is .00003; 36 mo lease zero down?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    @‌saratogasteve

    $41080 MSRP
    $36572 CAP
    $20540 residual (50% of CAP)

    Depreciation: (36572 - 20540) /36 = $445.33/mo.
    Finance: (36572 + 20540) X .00003 = $1.71/mo.
    Depreciation + Finance = pre-tax payment $447/mo.

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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaMember Posts: 186
    wanted to say I gave up on leasing a Pathfinder and purchased a Highlander. I was drawn to the Pathfinder because it was heavily discounted according to TrueCar pricing and the MF according to the moderator here was decent. But every quote I ever got either failed to meet the purchase price I was seeking and/or jacked up the MF despite having an 800+ credit rating. Some dealers would just say "come on down and we'll work it out" blah blah blah. Because the Pathfinder has reliability issues, leasing made sense to me, but because no one would sharpen their pencil - not even close, I moved on.
  • miguelnjmiguelnj Member Posts: 2
    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    miguelnj said:

    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks

    .00003 MF and 51% residual for 36/12.

    39/12 is not a viable term for this model.

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Member Posts: 182
    kyfdx said:

    miguelnj said:

    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks

    .00003 MF and 51% residual for 36/12.

    39/12 is not a viable term for this model.
    May I have these numbers for 2015 pathfinder S ?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    spidpooy said:

    kyfdx said:

    miguelnj said:

    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks

    .

    May I have these numbers for 2015 pathfinder S ?

    4X4? .00003 MF and 53% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Member Posts: 182
    Thanks @kyfdx , Do you have numbers for 4x4 2015 pathfinder SL as well ? Looking for 36/12 and 24/12 ... Please let me know how much should I add on RV for 10K terms. SL with Tech package has the same RV and MF like SL ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    spidpooy said:

    Thanks @kyfdx , Do you have numbers for 4x4 2015 pathfinder SL as well ? Looking for 36/12 and 24/12 ... Please let me know how much should I add on RV for 10K terms. SL with Tech package has the same RV and MF like SL ?

    .00003 MF and 50%/58% residual for 12K/yr.

    I don't think that Nissan offers a 10K/yr option, but if they do, the residual will be 1% higher.

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  • tankerdrivertankerdriver Member Posts: 13
    Looking for May residual numbers for Platinum and SL 15k/36 or 39 whichever looks better. Actually looking to buy about 20k miles...also what does your crystal ball think about June numbers :)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042

    Looking for May residual numbers for Platinum and SL 15k/36 or 39 whichever looks better. Actually looking to buy about 20k miles...also what does your crystal ball think about June numbers :)

    .00003 MF and 48% residual (Platinum) or 49% residual (SL).

    Subtract 2% for RWD model.

    No guesses on next month.

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  • chosen010chosen010 Member Posts: 2
    I was told today that residual was calculated off of MSRP not CAP. Is this incorrect?

    About to try to work a deal on a 2015 2x4 Platinum...
    Am I really looking at a 46% Residual??????
    kyfdx said:

    @‌saratogasteve

    $41080 MSRP
    $36572 CAP
    $20540 residual (50% of CAP)

    Depreciation: (36572 - 20540) /36 = $445.33/mo.
    Finance: (36572 + 20540) X .00003 = $1.71/mo.
    Depreciation + Finance = pre-tax payment $447/mo.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212
    chosen010 said:

    I was told today that residual was calculated off of MSRP not CAP. Is this incorrect?

    About to try to work a deal on a 2015 2x4 Platinum...
    Am I really looking at a 46% Residual??????


    kyfdx said:

    @‌saratogasteve

    $41080 MSRP
    $36572 CAP
    $20540 residual (50% of CAP)

    Depreciation: (36572 - 20540) /36 = $445.33/mo.
    Finance: (36572 + 20540) X .00003 = $1.71/mo.
    Depreciation + Finance = pre-tax payment $447/mo.

    Residual is always calculated off the bottom number of the window sticker (including destination).

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  • chosen010chosen010 Member Posts: 2
    So, help me understand please sir...

    Depreciation should be (CAP - Residual) / 36 but in the math I quoted the Residual was calculated at 50% of CAP and not 50% of MSRP or the bottom line of the window sticker which is MSRP + Destination and Dealer Add Ons...

    right?

    Also, can you confirm the Residual percentage on the 2015 4x2 Platinum?(I see RWD and AWD, and maybe RWD is universal for 4x2, but the Pathfinder is FWD)...

    Much Thanks!
  • mrrepomrrepo Member Posts: 2
    Looking for MF and Residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL 4X4. Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    mrrepo said:

    Looking for MF and Residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL 4X4. Thanks.

    .00003 MF and 57% residual

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  • kretchmerkretchmer Member Posts: 1
    Looking for MF and residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL Premium 4x2 with tech package
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    kretchmer said:

    Looking for MF and residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL Premium 4x2 with tech package

    .00003 MF and 56% residual

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  • tec7tec7 Member Posts: 11
    looking for MF and residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL 4x4 in Ohio.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    tec7 said:

    looking for MF and residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL 4x4 in Ohio.

    .00003 MF and 57% residual

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  • aman27aman27 Long Island, NYMember Posts: 50
    Hi,

    Can you provide MF & Residual on a 2015 SV Pathfinder 36mo x 15k ?

    The offer I am getting is 2015 Pathfinder SV MSRP $34800 36 x 15k for $350/month with $1700 up front which includes 1st month, DMV, Bank Fee, Cap Cost.

    Is this a fair deal ?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    aman27 said:

    Hi,

    Can you provide MF & Residual on a 2015 SV Pathfinder 36mo x 15k ?

    The offer I am getting is 2015 Pathfinder SV MSRP $34800 36 x 15k for $350/month with $1700 up front which includes 1st month, DMV, Bank Fee, Cap Cost.

    Is this a fair deal ?

    .00003 MF and 55% residual

    It looks pretty decent. Which state and what is the tax rate? Does that include tax?

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  • aman27aman27 Long Island, NYMember Posts: 50
    edited July 2015
    I am in NY (8.625%) yes includes taxes which are rolled into the payment
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    aman27 said:

    I am in NY (8.625%) yes includes taxes which are rolled into the payment

    Looks really good, then

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  • tec7tec7 Member Posts: 11
    Thank you! what about 36/12 for Pathfinder Platinum 4x4 in Ohio?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    tec7 said:

    Thank you! what about 36/12 for Pathfinder Platinum 4x4 in Ohio?

    .00003 MF and 57% residual

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  • tec7tec7 Member Posts: 11
    Thanks a lot!!!
  • tec7tec7 Member Posts: 11
    Is 24/12 SL/Platinum still 62%?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212
    tec7 said:

    Is 24/12 SL/Platinum still 62%?

    Nope, 59% this month.

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  • tec7tec7 Member Posts: 11
    thanks!
  • cheftcheft Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2015
    thanks so much for this service, my wife was able to negotiate a deal on an infinity q50s awd that would not have been able in a million years thanks to the tools provided on this forum. 

    if I have received a quote of 
    msrp 46490
    cap cost 38882
    for a 2015 pathfinder 4wdsl what kind of money factor/ residuals can I expect to be standard/non inflated for 24/36/39 12/15. 
    Michigan and 6 %
    what at kind of payments should I be looking at and what kind of out of pockets with those costs. thanks again Michaell for the service that you and Edmunds provide!!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212
    cheft said:
    thanks so much for this service, my wife was able to negotiate a deal on an infinity q50s awd that would not have been able in a million years thanks to the tools provided on this forum. 

    if I have received a quote of 
    msrp 46490
    cap cost 38882
    for a 2015 pathfinder 4wdsl what kind of money factor/ residuals can I expect to be standard/non inflated for 24/36/39 12/15. 
    Michigan and 6 %
    what at kind of payments should I be looking at and what kind of out of pockets with those costs. thanks again Michaell for the service that you and Edmunds provide!!
    24 and 39 month programs not viable this month. .00003 and 54% for 36/15; add 2% for 12k

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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Member Posts: 65
    Hi what are the 36/12 numbers for 4WD Platinum in So Cal? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212

    Hi what are the 36/12 numbers for 4WD Platinum in So Cal? Thanks!

    56% and .00003

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  • cardsdoccardsdoc Member Posts: 4
    What are leasing number for platinum 4x4. Cleveland Ohio. 36 months 12k. Thanks. 
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 212,212
    cardsdoc said:
    What are leasing number for platinum 4x4. Cleveland Ohio. 36 months 12k. Thanks. 

    56% and .00003

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  • bfactor84bfactor84 Member Posts: 27
    edited July 2015
    looking for July MF, incentives and residuals on SL and Platinum @ 36/10 - 4 x 2 in south florida (33324)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 212,042
    bfactor84 said:

    looking for July MF, incentives and residuals on SL and Platinum @ 36/10 - 4 x 2 in south florida (33324)

    .00003 MF and 56% residual for all 2015 Pathfinders. 36mo, 12K/yr.

    I don't think that Nissan does 10K/yr

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