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2015 Nissan Pathfinder Lease Questions

PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 9,184
edited April 2015 in Nissan
This discussion was created from comments split from: 2014 Nissan Pathfinder Lease Questions.

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  • albe3albe3 Posts: 65
    Check this out. Too high I believe

    Vehicle: 2015 NISSAN PATHFINDER 2WD 25115 4dr Wgn S
    Stock #:
    VIN:
    Miles: 0
    PURCHASE OPTION
    Vehicle Price: $30,765.00
    AutoNation Savings: - $1,778.00
    Customer Rebate: - $2,500.00
    AutoNation Price: $26,487.00

    Sales Tax (estimate): + $1,849.31
    Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $295.00
    Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $6.50
    Dealer Service Fee: + $699.95
    Balance Due (estimate): $29,337.76
    No Trade-In
    LEASE OPTIONS
    Cash Due 36 months
    Rebates: $2,425
    12,000 Miles
    $0 $393
    $600 $374
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 116,804
    albe3 said:

    Check this out. Too high I believe

    Vehicle: 2015 NISSAN PATHFINDER 2WD 25115 4dr Wgn S
    Stock #:
    VIN:
    Miles: 0
    PURCHASE OPTION
    Vehicle Price: $30,765.00
    AutoNation Savings: - $1,778.00
    Customer Rebate: - $2,500.00
    AutoNation Price: $26,487.00

    Sales Tax (estimate): + $1,849.31
    Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $295.00
    Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $6.50
    Dealer Service Fee: + $699.95
    Balance Due (estimate): $29,337.76
    No Trade-In
    LEASE OPTIONS
    Cash Due 36 months
    Rebates: $2,425
    12,000 Miles
    $0 $393
    $600 $374

    I get $371.92 with your numbers, so a bit less than the dealer quote of $393. They might be inflating the MF on you for a bit of extra profit.

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  • albe3albe3 Posts: 65
    Does anyone have new numbers ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    albe3 said:

    Does anyone have new numbers ?

    2015 Pathfinder S 4X2, 36mo, 12K/yr.

    .00003 MF and 51% residual

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  • albe3albe3 Posts: 65
    Thx so how much Im lookintg now?
    Pathfinder S MSRP $31,160
    Sales Price $26487 TRUECAR (I will deal with dealer later :) )
    36 month 10 K
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 116,804
    albe3 said:

    Thx so how much Im lookintg now?
    Pathfinder S MSRP $31,160
    Sales Price $26487 TRUECAR (I will deal with dealer later :) )
    36 month 10 K

    $295.59/mo pre-tax.

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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaPosts: 180
    Can you please run the numbers for me assuming top tier credit: 2015 Pathfinder SL AWD w/ tech package, 36 mo. lease, 12k miles, zero down. Cap cost $35,000. plus california tax 8.75%.
    The sale price would be $34,100, I'm adding into the cap cost the acquisition fee for the lease.
  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaPosts: 180
    I pointed out to a dealer that they were inflating their MF even though I have top tier credit. His response? The MF goes up when it's a zero down deal. Does that sound right? the dealer then goes on to say honesty is the best policy.
  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaPosts: 180
    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.


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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaPosts: 180
    kyfdx said:

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.

    The MSRP is 41,080; sale price is 34,100; net cap cost is $36,572
    36mo 12k lease with zero down.

    what's your reply to a dealer saying the MF goes up with a zero down lease?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 116,804

    kyfdx said:

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.

    The MSRP is 41,080; sale price is 34,100; net cap cost is $36,572
    36mo 12k lease with zero down.

    what's your reply to a dealer saying the MF goes up with a zero down lease?
    We only have one MF for Nissan; dealer is allowed to mark up the MF for more profit. Perhaps they are couching that mark up as a "zero down" thing.

    Perhaps another Nissan dealer will be more transparent?

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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaPosts: 180
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    one more lease question regarding a Nissan Pathfinder. One dealer is giving me both the purchase price and the cap. cost for the same car for 36 mo 12k lease zero down. The spread is $2,472. When I ask them to explain the fees included in that spread I get the "come on down and we'll explain everything - full transparency!" sales pitch. They too are using a MF of .00003 which agrees with your numbers but are using a 50% residual. That's the second dealer here in the Bay Area to use 50% as the residual for a 2015 Pathfinder SL with Tech Package - AWD. You insist the residual is 54% as set forth by Nissan Credit and they insist the residual is 50%. Who's right? The thought of paying $2,472 fee for the lease option is a huge disincentive.

    2015 Pathfinder SL 4X4, 36mo, 12K/yr: .00003 MF and 50% residual. These are the March numbers.

    Can't calculate the payment without the MSRP. I can't answer the $2472 question for you.... only the dealer can explain those numbers.

    The MSRP is 41,080; sale price is 34,100; net cap cost is $36,572
    36mo 12k lease with zero down.

    what's your reply to a dealer saying the MF goes up with a zero down lease?
    We only have one MF for Nissan; dealer is allowed to mark up the MF for more profit. Perhaps they are couching that mark up as a "zero down" thing.

    Perhaps another Nissan dealer will be more transparent?
    can you help me learn how to do the math when the cap cost is $36,572 and the mf is .00003; 36 mo lease zero down?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    @‌saratogasteve

    $41080 MSRP
    $36572 CAP
    $20540 residual (50% of CAP)

    Depreciation: (36572 - 20540) /36 = $445.33/mo.
    Finance: (36572 + 20540) X .00003 = $1.71/mo.
    Depreciation + Finance = pre-tax payment $447/mo.

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  • saratogastevesaratogasteve San Jose, CaPosts: 180
    wanted to say I gave up on leasing a Pathfinder and purchased a Highlander. I was drawn to the Pathfinder because it was heavily discounted according to TrueCar pricing and the MF according to the moderator here was decent. But every quote I ever got either failed to meet the purchase price I was seeking and/or jacked up the MF despite having an 800+ credit rating. Some dealers would just say "come on down and we'll work it out" blah blah blah. Because the Pathfinder has reliability issues, leasing made sense to me, but because no one would sharpen their pencil - not even close, I moved on.
  • miguelnjmiguelnj Posts: 2
    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    miguelnj said:

    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks

    .00003 MF and 51% residual for 36/12.

    39/12 is not a viable term for this model.

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 180
    kyfdx said:

    miguelnj said:

    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks

    .00003 MF and 51% residual for 36/12.

    39/12 is not a viable term for this model.
    May I have these numbers for 2015 pathfinder S ?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    spidpooy said:

    kyfdx said:

    miguelnj said:

    Can I have the residual and MF for April on a 2015 pathfinder sv 4x4. 36mo/12k and 39mo/12k. Thanks

    .

    May I have these numbers for 2015 pathfinder S ?

    4X4? .00003 MF and 53% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 180
    Thanks @kyfdx , Do you have numbers for 4x4 2015 pathfinder SL as well ? Looking for 36/12 and 24/12 ... Please let me know how much should I add on RV for 10K terms. SL with Tech package has the same RV and MF like SL ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    spidpooy said:

    Thanks @kyfdx , Do you have numbers for 4x4 2015 pathfinder SL as well ? Looking for 36/12 and 24/12 ... Please let me know how much should I add on RV for 10K terms. SL with Tech package has the same RV and MF like SL ?

    .00003 MF and 50%/58% residual for 12K/yr.

    I don't think that Nissan offers a 10K/yr option, but if they do, the residual will be 1% higher.

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  • Looking for May residual numbers for Platinum and SL 15k/36 or 39 whichever looks better. Actually looking to buy about 20k miles...also what does your crystal ball think about June numbers :)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124

    Looking for May residual numbers for Platinum and SL 15k/36 or 39 whichever looks better. Actually looking to buy about 20k miles...also what does your crystal ball think about June numbers :)

    .00003 MF and 48% residual (Platinum) or 49% residual (SL).

    Subtract 2% for RWD model.

    No guesses on next month.

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  • chosen010chosen010 Posts: 2
    I was told today that residual was calculated off of MSRP not CAP. Is this incorrect?

    About to try to work a deal on a 2015 2x4 Platinum...
    Am I really looking at a 46% Residual??????
    kyfdx said:

    @‌saratogasteve

    $41080 MSRP
    $36572 CAP
    $20540 residual (50% of CAP)

    Depreciation: (36572 - 20540) /36 = $445.33/mo.
    Finance: (36572 + 20540) X .00003 = $1.71/mo.
    Depreciation + Finance = pre-tax payment $447/mo.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 116,804
    chosen010 said:

    I was told today that residual was calculated off of MSRP not CAP. Is this incorrect?

    About to try to work a deal on a 2015 2x4 Platinum...
    Am I really looking at a 46% Residual??????


    kyfdx said:

    @‌saratogasteve

    $41080 MSRP
    $36572 CAP
    $20540 residual (50% of CAP)

    Depreciation: (36572 - 20540) /36 = $445.33/mo.
    Finance: (36572 + 20540) X .00003 = $1.71/mo.
    Depreciation + Finance = pre-tax payment $447/mo.

    Residual is always calculated off the bottom number of the window sticker (including destination).

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  • chosen010chosen010 Posts: 2
    So, help me understand please sir...

    Depreciation should be (CAP - Residual) / 36 but in the math I quoted the Residual was calculated at 50% of CAP and not 50% of MSRP or the bottom line of the window sticker which is MSRP + Destination and Dealer Add Ons...

    right?

    Also, can you confirm the Residual percentage on the 2015 4x2 Platinum?(I see RWD and AWD, and maybe RWD is universal for 4x2, but the Pathfinder is FWD)...

    Much Thanks!
  • mrrepomrrepo Posts: 2
    Looking for MF and Residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL 4X4. Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    mrrepo said:

    Looking for MF and Residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL 4X4. Thanks.

    .00003 MF and 57% residual

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  • kretchmerkretchmer Posts: 1
    Looking for MF and residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL Premium 4x2 with tech package
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    kretchmer said:

    Looking for MF and residual for 36/12 for Pathfinder SL Premium 4x2 with tech package

    .00003 MF and 56% residual

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

    Edmunds Moderator

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