2015 Lexus GS 350 Lease Questions

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    ipickit34 said:

    What are the mf and residual for calif for 10k annual miles at 24/36 months?

    64% / 58% and either .00053 or .00065. $4500 lease cash and complimentary first payment.

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  • ipickit34ipickit34 Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2015
    Thank you!

    Is this a decent deal?

    California
    MSRP: $52,380
    Selling Price:$47,380
    Term: 36 Months
    Mileage: 10K
    MF:.0007
    Acquisition Fee: $700

    Payment: $526
    Tax: 49.97
    Total Payment: $576

    Gross Cap Cost:: 47,380
    Negative trade: -$2891 (returning existing lease early).
    Net Cap Cost: 47,358

    Residual: .58
    Residual Amount: $30,380
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    ipickit34 said:

    Thank you!

    Is this a decent deal?

    California
    MSRP: $52,380
    Selling Price:$47,380
    Term: 36 Months
    Mileage: 10K
    MF:.0007
    Acquisition Fee: $700

    Payment: $526
    Tax: 49.97
    Total Payment: $576

    Gross Cap Cost:: 47,380
    Negative trade: -$2891 (returning existing lease early).
    Net Cap Cost: 47,358

    Residual: .58
    Residual Amount: $30,380

    How much are you putting upfront? Enough to pay off the negative equity?

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  • ipickit34ipickit34 Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2015
    This deal is with zero down paymentt.   $0 drive off. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    ipickit34 said:

    This deal is with zero down paymentt.   $0 drive off. 

    If the Gross CAP is $47380 and the negative equity is -$2891, how is the net CAP cost $47,358? Where did the negative equity go to? Or, is the lease cash paying off the negative equity?

    If you can get $526/mo.+tax on a $52K MSRP car, and also bury negative equity of $2900, then that's a good deal.

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  • ipickit34ipickit34 Member Posts: 4
    yes, lease cash is paying off negative equity. thank you for the help! I pick it up in the morning!
  • ericleasecarericleasecar Member Posts: 1
    I am in Georgia, and the Lexus has a December to Remember program. The ads said for a MSRP 52,045 GS350, they offer $409 monthly payment for 36 months, 10K miles with $1,999 downpay. It includes delivery, processing and handling.

    My question, is it a good offer? What the residual be in GA for 36/10K and what is the MF?

    Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077

    I am in Georgia, and the Lexus has a December to Remember program. The ads said for a MSRP 52,045 GS350, they offer $409 monthly payment for 36 months, 10K miles with $1,999 downpay. It includes delivery, processing and handling.

    My question, is it a good offer? What the residual be in GA for 36/10K and what is the MF?

    Thanks.

    .00065 MF and 58% residual. $4500 lease cash + complimentary 1st payment.

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  • carlgrimcarlgrim Member Posts: 18
    Dear Moderator,

    Please provide me with Money Factor and Residual for a 36/15 and 36/12 Lexus GS 350 F Sport in South Florida

    Thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    carlgrim said:

    Dear Moderator,

    Please provide me with Money Factor and Residual for a 36/15 and 36/12 Lexus GS 350 F Sport in South Florida

    Thank you

    .00065 MF and 55%/57% residual. $4500 lease cash + complimentary 1st payment.

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  • crni123crni123 Member Posts: 67
    Hi guys. You have all helped me before. In need of new 2015 GSF 350. Here is the deal. Please let me know if you this its good or I could do better.

    MSRP: 56904.00
    Price: 50340.00
    Term: 36/15
    Rate: .00065
    residual: 55%
    Acq fee: 700.00
    Doc Fee: 700.00
    out of pocket 980.00 = 1st month, tag transfer, title
    payment 493.00 (6% florida tax included in payment)
  • johnl617johnl617 Member Posts: 38
    Isn't the first payment complimentary? Do they still require you to put that down? That's not a bad deal tho. I am also trying to convince the wife to go from a 2016 RX350 to a 2015 GS350 with Mark Levinson because the new RXs are going at MSRP and its ridiculous.
  • crni123crni123 Member Posts: 67
    edited December 2015
    They told me that the comp 1st payment was for base model. Not sure if that is true. Also didn't know if I could get a better deal. 

  • crni123crni123 Member Posts: 67

    crni123 said:
    They told me that the comp 1st payment was for base model. Not sure if that is true. Also didn't know if I could get a better deal. 


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    crni123 said:

    Hi guys. You have all helped me before. In need of new 2015 GSF 350. Here is the deal. Please let me know if you this its good or I could do better.

    MSRP: 56904.00
    Price: 50340.00
    Term: 36/15
    Rate: .00065
    residual: 55%
    Acq fee: 700.00
    Doc Fee: 700.00
    out of pocket 980.00 = 1st month, tag transfer, title
    payment 493.00 (6% florida tax included in payment)

    I confirm the .00065 MF and 55% residual for 36/15. First payment is complimentary - I see no restrictions on trim level.

    I get $617/mo with your numbers; I'm guessing your cap cost is lower than the price you've given us.

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  • crni123crni123 Member Posts: 67
    i wish i could copy the lease sheet here inany event here is the numbers per the sheet

    price: 50340.00
    term : 36
    rate: .00065
    days: 31
    MSRP: 56904.00
    residual: .55
    Miles: 15000
    cents/miles begin .20
    cents / miles end .25
    acq fee: 700.00
    cash: 980.00
    rebate: 5993.00
    gov fees: 487.00
    taxes: 1384.95
    doc fee: 799.00
    total interest pmt: 6973.50
    adj residual: 31297.20

    payment 493.00

    This is right off the lease worksheet.

    hope you can tell from the numbers above. Good deal, bad deal. The 980 they said was 1st payment, taxes, title ect. and I guess they are screwing me with the comp 1st payment. Was planing to pick the car up Saturday unless you tell me I left money on the table in which case I will talk with them again.

    thank you for all your help
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    crni123 said:

    i wish i could copy the lease sheet here inany event here is the numbers per the sheet

    price: 50340.00
    term : 36
    rate: .00065
    days: 31
    MSRP: 56904.00
    residual: .55
    Miles: 15000
    cents/miles begin .20
    cents / miles end .25
    acq fee: 700.00
    cash: 980.00
    rebate: 5993.00
    gov fees: 487.00
    taxes: 1384.95
    doc fee: 799.00
    total interest pmt: 6973.50
    adj residual: 31297.20

    payment 493.00

    This is right off the lease worksheet.

    hope you can tell from the numbers above. Good deal, bad deal. The 980 they said was 1st payment, taxes, title ect. and I guess they are screwing me with the comp 1st payment. Was planing to pick the car up Saturday unless you tell me I left money on the table in which case I will talk with them again.

    thank you for all your help

    We have most of the info we need.. A straight adjusted CAP cost would be nice, but we can figure that out.

    1) Even though you are making a first payment, it's still covered. It's in that $5993 rebate.

    2) If we add the sale price + acq.fee + gov fees + doc fee (shew.. $799!), then subtract the rebate, we get a CAP cost of $46,333. That results in a payment of approx $468/mo.+tax, or about $496/mo. That's very close to your quote.

    3) The total tax line is for informational purposes. The tax is actually collected monthly on each payment, in Florida. That's why I didn't include it in the CAP cost.

    Looks like a good deal with no markups. Just add that doc fee on to the sale price to get the true selling price of the vehicle. It's a very good deal.

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  • crni123crni123 Member Posts: 67
    Thank you for the informatikn
  • basispresbasispres Member Posts: 1
    Bye Bye BMW, Hello GS350. Seing all your deals here helped me understand where to be so heres mine, done today by Drago at Serramonte (who,for all in the Bay Area I fully recommend, won the deal from a number of closer dealers by playing straight!):

    Base with Options, Bay Area CA

    52380 MSRP
    Cap Cost Reduction 3620
    Multiple Refundable Sec Deposits 2500
    No Acq Fee
    No trade
    Rebates and Credits 4995
    0 drive off except 2500 in refundable deposits.
    453/mo + 41 tax/mo = 495 total/mo
    36/12

    Maybe could've ground a few more bips off but very pleased with this.


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    basispres said:

    Bye Bye BMW, Hello GS350. Seing all your deals here helped me understand where to be so heres mine, done today by Drago at Serramonte (who,for all in the Bay Area I fully recommend, won the deal from a number of closer dealers by playing straight!):

    Base with Options, Bay Area CA

    52380 MSRP
    Cap Cost Reduction 3620
    Multiple Refundable Sec Deposits 2500
    No Acq Fee
    No trade
    Rebates and Credits 4995
    0 drive off except 2500 in refundable deposits.
    453/mo + 41 tax/mo = 495 total/mo
    36/12

    Maybe could've ground a few more bips off but very pleased with this.

    Congrats - looks like a solid deal! Enjoy your new GS.

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  • stev7stev7 Member Posts: 8
    Could you give me the mf,residual, and lease cash available for a 2015 GS 350 AWD with the premium package and cold weather package for a 36 month 10k lease, no cap reduction on Long Island,NY. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    stev7 said:

    Could you give me the mf,residual, and lease cash available for a 2015 GS 350 AWD with the premium package and cold weather package for a 36 month 10k lease, no cap reduction on Long Island,NY. Thanks

    .00065 MF and 58% residual. $4500 lease cash + complimentary 1st payment

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  • 03qx03qx Member Posts: 103
    Hi. Can you post MF and Residual on a 2015 GS 350 base and F sport for a 27 month 15K lease. Also if there are any payment waivers and/or lease cash. Thanks !!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    03qx said:

    Hi. Can you post MF and Residual on a 2015 GS 350 base and F sport for a 27 month 15K lease. Also if there are any payment waivers and/or lease cash. Thanks !!

    .00065 and 60%. $4500 lease cash and complimentary first payment

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  • jobird11jobird11 Member Posts: 2
    Hey Folks,

    Looking to release another GS350 F-sport and looking at a 2015 model due to the 4500 incentive.(Currently have a 2013 GS350 F-Sport coming off of lease end on month) Stopped by a local dealer and they provided some figures and not sure they look all that great. I also have a few questions regarding MSD's, base MF, 1st comp payment as I reviewed on several posts. I will ask post them with lease number they provided. based on 24 months, 10k yr

    MSRP: $ 57,685
    Rebate: $5062.69 ($4500, 562.89)
    Residual 64%
    MF: .00070 ( showed me the Lexus Dec rate sheet since I stated it was .00065 )
    Sales tax: 8.1 %
    Cap cost/sell: $51,796
    Monthy Payment w/ 8.1% tax $562.89

    No fees rolled into payment. that would be paid out of pocket (Doc,Aq..etc)

    MSD's: Stated Lexus stopped a year or so ago accepting MSD's??
    1st month Complimentary: They did not mention this and I see it appears they added a 1st month payment to the rebate cost to achieve the $5062.69

    The deal does not look all that great. Looking for some input.. Many Thanks

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    jobird11 said:

    Hey Folks,

    Looking to release another GS350 F-sport and looking at a 2015 model due to the 4500 incentive.(Currently have a 2013 GS350 F-Sport coming off of lease end on month) Stopped by a local dealer and they provided some figures and not sure they look all that great. I also have a few questions regarding MSD's, base MF, 1st comp payment as I reviewed on several posts. I will ask post them with lease number they provided. based on 24 months, 10k yr

    MSRP: $ 57,685
    Rebate: $5062.69 ($4500, 562.89)
    Residual 64%
    MF: .00070 ( showed me the Lexus Dec rate sheet since I stated it was .00065 )
    Sales tax: 8.1 %
    Cap cost/sell: $51,796
    Monthy Payment w/ 8.1% tax $562.89

    No fees rolled into payment. that would be paid out of pocket (Doc,Aq..etc)

    MSD's: Stated Lexus stopped a year or so ago accepting MSD's??
    1st month Complimentary: They did not mention this and I see it appears they added a 1st month payment to the rebate cost to achieve the $5062.69

    The deal does not look all that great. Looking for some input.. Many Thanks

    The MF could be .00070. The two regions we show are .00053 and .00065, but both of those are regional specials discounted from the base rate.

    What you don't have is the NET Cap cost, after rebate reductions. If $51,796 is the selling price, and the $4500 incentive is subtracted, I get a payment of about $492/mo.+tax, or about $532/mo. That's about a $700 difference. Part of that could be tax on the rebate.

    Lexus still has an MSD program.

    Yes, the complimentary 1st payment is achieved by the extra rebate.

    You could save $60/mo. by going with the 36 month lease.

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  • mrtrancemrtrance Member Posts: 199
    edited December 2015
    Can I get the residuals and MF for 2015 GS350 F Sport for Southern California for 36/10K and 36/12K?

    When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?
  • mrtrancemrtrance Member Posts: 199

    2015 GS350 F sport
    MSRP $56295
    Cap cost $50700
    36mo./10k
    MF .00095
    $432/mo. Including Texas Tax
    Zero down (first payment complimentary)
    MSD $4050

    Good deal? 

    Did you do this deal? What was your drive off fees?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    mrtrance said:

    Can I get the residuals and MF for 2015 GS350 F Sport for Southern California for 36/10K and 36/12K?

    When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?

    58% / 57% and either .00065 or .00053 MF.

    Yes, use the $4500 lease cash to negotiate your best deal. Read back through the last page or two of posts to see what others have been able to achieve. We don't track selling prices.

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  • carleasenewbcarleasenewb Member Posts: 1
    Michaell said:

    2015 GS350 F sport
    MSRP $56295
    Cap cost $50700
    36mo./10k
    MF .00095
    $432/mo. Including Texas Tax
    Zero down (first payment complimentary)
    MSD $4050

    Good deal? 

    $432/mo with tax on a $56K car is more than a good deal. The MSDs really help.
    Which dealership did you get this deal from?
  • jobird11jobird11 Member Posts: 2
    kyfdx said:

    jobird11 said:

    Hey Folks,

    Looking to release another GS350 F-sport and looking at a 2015 model due to the 4500 incentive.(Currently have a 2013 GS350 F-Sport coming off of lease end on month) Stopped by a local dealer and they provided some figures and not sure they look all that great. I also have a few questions regarding MSD's, base MF, 1st comp payment as I reviewed on several posts. I will ask post them with lease number they provided. based on 24 months, 10k yr

    MSRP: $ 57,685
    Rebate: $5062.69 ($4500, 562.89)
    Residual 64%
    MF: .00070 ( showed me the Lexus Dec rate sheet since I stated it was .00065 )
    Sales tax: 8.1 %
    Cap cost/sell: $51,796
    Monthy Payment w/ 8.1% tax $562.89

    No fees rolled into payment. that would be paid out of pocket (Doc,Aq..etc)

    MSD's: Stated Lexus stopped a year or so ago accepting MSD's??
    1st month Complimentary: They did not mention this and I see it appears they added a 1st month payment to the rebate cost to achieve the $5062.69

    The deal does not look all that great. Looking for some input.. Many Thanks

    The MF could be .00070. The two regions we show are .00053 and .00065, but both of those are regional specials discounted from the base rate.

    What you don't have is the NET Cap cost, after rebate reductions. If $51,796 is the selling price, and the $4500 incentive is subtracted, I get a payment of about $492/mo.+tax, or about $532/mo. That's about a $700 difference. Part of that could be tax on the rebate.

    Lexus still has an MSD program.

    Yes, the complimentary 1st payment is achieved by the extra rebate.

    You could save $60/mo. by going with the 36 month lease.

    Thank you for the information on the calculation.
  • mrtrancemrtrance Member Posts: 199
    edited December 2015
    Michaell said:
    Can I get the residuals and MF for 2015 GS350 F Sport for Southern California for 36/10K and 36/12K? When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?
    58% / 57% and either .00065 or .00053 MF. Yes, use the $4500 lease cash to negotiate your best deal. Read back through the last page or two of posts to see what others have been able to achieve. We don't track selling prices.
    I got this quote from a local SoCal dealer. Can you tell me if it is good or should it be lower based on these numbers he gave me? It is for 36/10K.

    MSRP: $57,725
    Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate
    Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees Residual: $33,220 (58%)
    Rebate: $5000
    MF: Not given
    Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax
    Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    mrtrance said:


    Michaell said:

    Can I get the residuals and MF for 2015 GS350 F Sport for Southern California for 36/10K and 36/12K?

    When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?
    58% / 57% and either .00065 or .00053 MF.

    Yes, use the $4500 lease cash to negotiate your best deal. Read back through the last page or two of posts to see what others have been able to achieve. We don't track selling prices.

    I got this quote from a local SoCal dealer. Can you tell me if it is good or should it be lower based on these numbers he gave me? It is for 36/10K.


    MSRP: $57,725

    Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate

    Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees
    Residual: $33,220 (58%)

    Rebate: $5000

    MF: Not given

    Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax

    Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)

    Using your numbers and the base MF of .00060, I get $443/mo after 8% tax is added.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, ask them what they've added.

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  • tkky1970tkky1970 Member Posts: 3
    Can you please tell me the residual and mf on a 36 month GS 350 @ 12K and 15K in Kentucky? Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    tkky1970 said:

    Can you please tell me the residual and mf on a 36 month GS 350 @ 12K and 15K in Kentucky? Thanks.

    .00053 MF and 57%/55% residual. $4500 lease cash + complimentary 1st payment

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  • dnlgonzaldnlgonzal Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2015
    How do you know which money factor to use? I am in the Southern California area looking to lease a 2015 GS F Sport for 36/12. Does that mean I am looking at a 57% residual and a 0.00053 MF?

    Also, what is the MF reduction per MSD? And how many does Lexus allow you to get?

    Thanks in advance!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    dnlgonzal said:

    How do you know which money factor to use? I am in the Southern California area looking to lease a 2015 GS F Sport for 36/12. Does that mean I am looking at a 57% residual and a 0.00053 MF?

    Also, what is the MF reduction per MSD? And how many does Lexus allow you to get?

    Thanks in advance!

    We don't have the West Coast regional numbers.. The money factor will be somewhere between .00053 and .00070. When dealers mark up money factors, it tends to be a lot, so if you are within that range, it's most likely the base number. 57% residual is correct for 36/12

    Lexus MSD: .00008 per deposit X 9 max.

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  • jc13jc13 Member Posts: 3
    Just agreed to terms on a 2015 F-Sport RWD
    MSRP $56,280
    Discount/Rebate $12,240 Adjusted Price - $44,040
    3% tax, $1,397 (North Carolina), plus $213 in other fees and taxes
    Net price - $46,650
    Going to Atlanta to get it (saved a bunch)
    Zero down/ zero out of pocket
    36 months / 12K per year
    $455 month
  • mrtrancemrtrance Member Posts: 199
    edited December 2015
    jc13 said:

    Just agreed to terms on a 2015 F-Sport RWD
    MSRP $56,280
    Discount/Rebate $12,240 Adjusted Price - $44,040
    3% tax, $1,397 (North Carolina), plus $213 in other fees and taxes
    Net price - $46,650
    Going to Atlanta to get it (saved a bunch)
    Zero down/ zero out of pocket
    36 months / 12K per year
    $455 month

    That is a great deal you got there. Did you had to go back and forth to get that selling price on the car or it was afford to you from the beginning? Did you do it through the internet sales department? So they collected your monthly taxes ahead of time correct?

    How come your net price is $46,650? Isn't $44,040+$1397+$213 = $45,650. Where did the extra $1000 get added to net price? Was this the $700 acq fee and taxes on the rebate?

    So the $455 payment is without tax correct since they already collected all the 36 month taxes ahead of time and added it to cap cost?
  • mrtrancemrtrance Member Posts: 199
    Michaell said:

    mrtrance said:


    Michaell said:

    Can I get the residuals and MF for 2015 GS350 F Sport for Southern California for 36/10K and 36/12K?

    When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?
    58% / 57% and either .00065 or .00053 MF.

    Yes, use the $4500 lease cash to negotiate your best deal. Read back through the last page or two of posts to see what others have been able to achieve. We don't track selling prices.

    I got this quote from a local SoCal dealer. Can you tell me if it is good or should it be lower based on these numbers he gave me? It is for 36/10K.


    MSRP: $57,725

    Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate

    Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees
    Residual: $33,220 (58%)

    Rebate: $5000

    MF: Not given

    Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax

    Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)

    Using your numbers and the base MF of .00060, I get $443/mo after 8% tax is added.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, ask them what they've added.

    The dealer is saying net cap cost being used is $47,621 and MF being used is 0.00090. So the net cost has an additional $1121 added to the vehicle price. Also MF seems high to what you have been quoting. Is that base here in SoCal or are they adding on to it?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    mrtrance said:

    Michaell said:

    mrtrance said:


    Michaell said:

    Can I get the residuals and MF for 2015 GS350 F Sport for Southern California for 36/10K and 36/12K?

    When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?
    58% / 57% and either .00065 or .00053 MF.

    Yes, use the $4500 lease cash to negotiate your best deal. Read back through the last page or two of posts to see what others have been able to achieve. We don't track selling prices.

    I got this quote from a local SoCal dealer. Can you tell me if it is good or should it be lower based on these numbers he gave me? It is for 36/10K.


    MSRP: $57,725

    Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate

    Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees
    Residual: $33,220 (58%)

    Rebate: $5000

    MF: Not given

    Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax

    Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)
    Using your numbers and the base MF of .00060, I get $443/mo after 8% tax is added.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, ask them what they've added.

    The dealer is saying net cap cost being used is $47,621 and MF being used is 0.00090. So the net cost has an additional $1121 added to the vehicle price. Also MF seems high to what you have been quoting. Is that base here in SoCal or are they adding on to it?

    Find out what the $1121 represents ... and yes, the MF can be marked up for extra profit.

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  • jc13jc13 Member Posts: 3
    Sorry, typo on my part, $45,650 is net and that includes taxes.
  • mrtrancemrtrance Member Posts: 199
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    Can I get the residuals and MF for 2015 GS350 F Sport for Southern California for 36/10K and 36/12K? When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?
    58% / 57% and either .00065 or .00053 MF. Yes, use the $4500 lease cash to negotiate your best deal. Read back through the last page or two of posts to see what others have been able to achieve. We don't track selling prices.
    I got this quote from a local SoCal dealer. Can you tell me if it is good or should it be lower based on these numbers he gave me? It is for 36/10K.

    MSRP: $57,725
    Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate
    Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees Residual: $33,220 (58%)
    Rebate: $5000
    MF: Not given
    Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax
    Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)
    Using your numbers and the base MF of .00060, I get $443/mo after 8% tax is added. Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, ask them what they've added.
    The dealer is saying net cap cost being used is $47,621 and MF being used is 0.00090. So the net cost has an additional $1121 added to the vehicle price. Also MF seems high to what you have been quoting. Is that base here in SoCal or are they adding on to it?
    Find out what the $1121 represents ... and yes, the MF can be marked up for extra profit.
    Dealer said the $1121 added is $700 Acq fee and DMV fees.
  • kardon1kardon1 Member Posts: 40
    What is the 24/27/33 month residuals?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    kardon1 said:

    What is the 24/27/33 month residuals?

    61% / 60% / 57% - all for 15K miles.

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  • abokhariabokhari Member Posts: 26
    Purchase price question: I need help.
    Shouldn't my offer start from TMV price (which is a few hundred dollars more than the invoice) minus the incentive ($4500)?
    MSRP $54580
    Invoice $50800
    TMV $51342
    TMV-4500=$46842

    A dealer in Maryland offered at $50000 (plus tax, title, and dealer processing fee), which is basically $4500 less than the MSRP.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    abokhari said:

    Purchase price question: I need help.
    Shouldn't my offer start from TMV price (which is a few hundred dollars more than the invoice) minus the incentive ($4500)?
    MSRP $54580
    Invoice $50800
    TMV $51342
    TMV-4500=$46842

    A dealer in Maryland offered at $50000 (plus tax, title, and dealer processing fee), which is basically $4500 less than the MSRP.

    I agree with your approach. The dealer, of course, is trying to maximize their profit.

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  • omadao24omadao24 Member Posts: 14
    Does anyone know the RV / MF for a 2016 F-Sport AWD? 36/12 & 36/15?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    omadao24 said:

    Does anyone know the RV / MF for a 2016 F-Sport AWD? 36/12 & 36/15?

    .00070 MF and $750 lease cash.... but, no residuals, yet.

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  • omadao24omadao24 Member Posts: 14
    kyfdx said:

    omadao24 said:

    Does anyone know the RV / MF for a 2016 F-Sport AWD? 36/12 & 36/15?

    .00070 MF and $750 lease cash.... but, no residuals, yet.
    Thank you. In the Chicagoland area I have 2 dealers saying the RV on a 36/16 is 54%. Does not seem right compared to the 2015 models, does it?
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