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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Is this a decent deal?
California
MSRP: $52,380
Selling Price:$47,380
Term: 36 Months
Mileage: 10K
MF:.0007
Acquisition Fee: $700
Payment: $526
Tax: 49.97
Total Payment: $576
Gross Cap Cost:: 47,380
Negative trade: -$2891 (returning existing lease early).
Net Cap Cost: 47,358
Residual: .58
Residual Amount: $30,380
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If you can get $526/mo.+tax on a $52K MSRP car, and also bury negative equity of $2900, then that's a good deal.
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My question, is it a good offer? What the residual be in GA for 36/10K and what is the MF?
Thanks.
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Please provide me with Money Factor and Residual for a 36/15 and 36/12 Lexus GS 350 F Sport in South Florida
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MSRP: 56904.00
Price: 50340.00
Term: 36/15
Rate: .00065
residual: 55%
Acq fee: 700.00
Doc Fee: 700.00
out of pocket 980.00 = 1st month, tag transfer, title
payment 493.00 (6% florida tax included in payment)
I get $617/mo with your numbers; I'm guessing your cap cost is lower than the price you've given us.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
price: 50340.00
term : 36
rate: .00065
days: 31
MSRP: 56904.00
residual: .55
Miles: 15000
cents/miles begin .20
cents / miles end .25
acq fee: 700.00
cash: 980.00
rebate: 5993.00
gov fees: 487.00
taxes: 1384.95
doc fee: 799.00
total interest pmt: 6973.50
adj residual: 31297.20
payment 493.00
This is right off the lease worksheet.
hope you can tell from the numbers above. Good deal, bad deal. The 980 they said was 1st payment, taxes, title ect. and I guess they are screwing me with the comp 1st payment. Was planing to pick the car up Saturday unless you tell me I left money on the table in which case I will talk with them again.
thank you for all your help
1) Even though you are making a first payment, it's still covered. It's in that $5993 rebate.
2) If we add the sale price + acq.fee + gov fees + doc fee (shew.. $799!), then subtract the rebate, we get a CAP cost of $46,333. That results in a payment of approx $468/mo.+tax, or about $496/mo. That's very close to your quote.
3) The total tax line is for informational purposes. The tax is actually collected monthly on each payment, in Florida. That's why I didn't include it in the CAP cost.
Looks like a good deal with no markups. Just add that doc fee on to the sale price to get the true selling price of the vehicle. It's a very good deal.
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Base with Options, Bay Area CA
52380 MSRP
Cap Cost Reduction 3620
Multiple Refundable Sec Deposits 2500
No Acq Fee
No trade
Rebates and Credits 4995
0 drive off except 2500 in refundable deposits.
453/mo + 41 tax/mo = 495 total/mo
36/12
Maybe could've ground a few more bips off but very pleased with this.
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Looking to release another GS350 F-sport and looking at a 2015 model due to the 4500 incentive.(Currently have a 2013 GS350 F-Sport coming off of lease end on month) Stopped by a local dealer and they provided some figures and not sure they look all that great. I also have a few questions regarding MSD's, base MF, 1st comp payment as I reviewed on several posts. I will ask post them with lease number they provided. based on 24 months, 10k yr
MSRP: $ 57,685
Rebate: $5062.69 ($4500, 562.89)
Residual 64%
MF: .00070 ( showed me the Lexus Dec rate sheet since I stated it was .00065 )
Sales tax: 8.1 %
Cap cost/sell: $51,796
Monthy Payment w/ 8.1% tax $562.89
No fees rolled into payment. that would be paid out of pocket (Doc,Aq..etc)
MSD's: Stated Lexus stopped a year or so ago accepting MSD's??
1st month Complimentary: They did not mention this and I see it appears they added a 1st month payment to the rebate cost to achieve the $5062.69
The deal does not look all that great. Looking for some input.. Many Thanks
What you don't have is the NET Cap cost, after rebate reductions. If $51,796 is the selling price, and the $4500 incentive is subtracted, I get a payment of about $492/mo.+tax, or about $532/mo. That's about a $700 difference. Part of that could be tax on the rebate.
Lexus still has an MSD program.
Yes, the complimentary 1st payment is achieved by the extra rebate.
You could save $60/mo. by going with the 36 month lease.
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When negotiating the price of the car we should take into consideration the $4500 discount plus any other discount they might typically have on the car correct? So on a car with MSRP of $57K can we expect to get a selling price down to $50K-$51K in SoCal?
Yes, use the $4500 lease cash to negotiate your best deal. Read back through the last page or two of posts to see what others have been able to achieve. We don't track selling prices.
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Thank you for the information on the calculation.
MSRP: $57,725
Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate
Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees Residual: $33,220 (58%)
Rebate: $5000
MF: Not given
Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax
Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)
MSRP: $57,725
Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate
Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees
Residual: $33,220 (58%)
Rebate: $5000
MF: Not given
Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax
Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)
Using your numbers and the base MF of .00060, I get $443/mo after 8% tax is added.
Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, ask them what they've added.
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Also, what is the MF reduction per MSD? And how many does Lexus allow you to get?
Thanks in advance!
Lexus MSD: .00008 per deposit X 9 max.
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MSRP $56,280
Discount/Rebate $12,240 Adjusted Price - $44,040
3% tax, $1,397 (North Carolina), plus $213 in other fees and taxes
Net price - $46,650
Going to Atlanta to get it (saved a bunch)
Zero down/ zero out of pocket
36 months / 12K per year
$455 month
How come your net price is $46,650? Isn't $44,040+$1397+$213 = $45,650. Where did the extra $1000 get added to net price? Was this the $700 acq fee and taxes on the rebate?
So the $455 payment is without tax correct since they already collected all the 36 month taxes ahead of time and added it to cap cost?
MSRP: $57,725
Savings: $10,775 incl. Rebate
Vehicle Price: $46,500 Net after Rebate + Fees
Residual: $33,220 (58%)
Rebate: $5000
MF: Not given
Monthly: $540 includes 8% tax
Drive off: $999 (just Acquistion Fee, DMV fees)
Using your numbers and the base MF of .00060, I get $443/mo after 8% tax is added.
Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, ask them what they've added.
The dealer is saying net cap cost being used is $47,621 and MF being used is 0.00090. So the net cost has an additional $1121 added to the vehicle price. Also MF seems high to what you have been quoting. Is that base here in SoCal or are they adding on to it?
Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, ask them what they've added.
The dealer is saying net cap cost being used is $47,621 and MF being used is 0.00090. So the net cost has an additional $1121 added to the vehicle price. Also MF seems high to what you have been quoting. Is that base here in SoCal or are they adding on to it?
Find out what the $1121 represents ... and yes, the MF can be marked up for extra profit.
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Shouldn't my offer start from TMV price (which is a few hundred dollars more than the invoice) minus the incentive ($4500)?
MSRP $54580
Invoice $50800
TMV $51342
TMV-4500=$46842
A dealer in Maryland offered at $50000 (plus tax, title, and dealer processing fee), which is basically $4500 less than the MSRP.
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