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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    crazydeo said:

    Is this a good deal?
    MSRP:$57685
    Sale Price: $51888
    Down: $4800 w/$1800 lease cash included
    Monthly: $482
    36 month with 15k miles a year

    What is the breakdown of the $3000 you are putting in at the beginning of the lease? How much of that is cap cost reduction?

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    crazydeocrazydeo Member Posts: 30
    Michaell said:

    crazydeo said:

    Is this a good deal?
    MSRP:$57685
    Sale Price: $51888
    Down: $4800 w/$1800 lease cash included
    Monthly: $482
    36 month with 15k miles a year

    What is the breakdown of the $3000 you are putting in at the beginning of the lease? How much of that is cap cost reduction?
    $3532.48 for cap cost reduction
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    crazydeo said:

    Michaell said:

    crazydeo said:

    Is this a good deal?
    MSRP:$57685
    Sale Price: $51888
    Down: $4800 w/$1800 lease cash included
    Monthly: $482
    36 month with 15k miles a year

    What is the breakdown of the $3000 you are putting in at the beginning of the lease? How much of that is cap cost reduction?
    $3532.48 for cap cost reduction
    We don't recommend making a cap cost reduction - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money. That works out to almost $100/mo on your payment.

    That said, $582/mo for a car that stickers at almost $58K is not a bad deal.

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    crazydeocrazydeo Member Posts: 30
    Michaell said:

    crazydeo said:

    Michaell said:

    crazydeo said:

    Is this a good deal?
    MSRP:$57685
    Sale Price: $51888
    Down: $4800 w/$1800 lease cash included
    Monthly: $482
    36 month with 15k miles a year

    What is the breakdown of the $3000 you are putting in at the beginning of the lease? How much of that is cap cost reduction?
    $3532.48 for cap cost reduction
    We don't recommend making a cap cost reduction - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money. That works out to almost $100/mo on your payment.

    That said, $582/mo for a car that stickers at almost $58K is not a bad deal.
    Thanks Michaell!!
    BTW, I forgot to update you on the Sale Price, as I managed to squeeze a little more out of them. New Sale Price is $51495. I think I'll go in today and pick it up.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    crazydeo said:

    Michaell said:

    crazydeo said:

    Michaell said:

    crazydeo said:

    Is this a good deal?
    MSRP:$57685
    Sale Price: $51888
    Down: $4800 w/$1800 lease cash included
    Monthly: $482
    36 month with 15k miles a year

    What is the breakdown of the $3000 you are putting in at the beginning of the lease? How much of that is cap cost reduction?
    $3532.48 for cap cost reduction
    We don't recommend making a cap cost reduction - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money. That works out to almost $100/mo on your payment.

    That said, $582/mo for a car that stickers at almost $58K is not a bad deal.
    Thanks Michaell!!
    BTW, I forgot to update you on the Sale Price, as I managed to squeeze a little more out of them. New Sale Price is $51495. I think I'll go in today and pick it up.
    Congratulations ... enjoy!

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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2015
    I just signed 2015 GS350 F Sport AWD on 01/24/15 , Living in NY . this deal included with 1800 cash rebate.
    $609 /Month . all taxes and fee are rolled into monthly payment , paid 1st payment plus DMV cost only
    12k/yr. 36 Month lease . free maintenance service upto 25K

    if sign GS350 AWD $583 /month for 12k/yr, 36 Month

    Dear Kyfdx,
    is this Good deal ? , i saw reviews , my deal costs is higher than others
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    mcb345mcb345 Member Posts: 32
    Question, is anyone being offered selling prices under invoice when the $1800 is included? Since the GS is a slower seller for Lexus I would figure they'd sell the car (or lease) very close to invoice and then with the $1800 it should be under invoice. Has anyone been offered a deal of $1800 UNDER invoice or relatively close to that??
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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    mcb345 said:

    Question, is anyone being offered selling prices under invoice when the $1800 is included? Since the GS is a slower seller for Lexus I would figure they'd sell the car (or lease) very close to invoice and then with the $1800 it should be under invoice. Has anyone been offered a deal of $1800 UNDER invoice or relatively close to that??

    i am sure that selling price is under invoice /ticket price , ex) $55k ticket /invoice ,selling abt $51k including $1800 cash rebate . as far as i know GS 350 is not a slower seller in NY .
    i looked for mid-size sedan , A6, BM 5 , MB E CLass. GS 350 is better deal than others.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    nex said:

    I just signed 2015 GS350 F Sport AWD on 01/24/15 , Living in NY . this deal included with 1800 cash rebate.
    $609 /Month . all taxes and fee are rolled into monthly payment , paid 1st payment plus DMV cost only
    12k/yr. 36 Month lease . free maintenance service upto 25K

    if sign GS350 AWD $583 /month for 12k/yr, 36 Month

    Dear Kyfdx,
    is this Good deal ? , i saw reviews , my deal costs is higher than others

    What are the MSRP and net cap costs?

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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2015
    Dear Kyfdx , Since i lease cars every 2-3 years , I do not ask MSRP or net cap costs. .
    once i get Paper work from dealer , i can provide you exact #s . but MSRP GS F Sport . abt. closest to $58-60K and GS 350 Abt Btwn. $55 & 56K ,


    Comparing above our offers to below
    I saw above review who live in NY , abt same MSRP on GS 350 ,
    He pays $575/Month 10K//27 month

    Net cap costs ? is Sale price ? I should ask you before deal with dealer .
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    nex said:

    Dear Kyfdx , Since i lease cars every 2-3 years , I do not ask MSRP or net cap costs. .
    once i get Paper work from dealer , i can provide you exact #s . but MSRP GS F Sport . abt. closest to $58-60K and GS 350 Abt Btwn. $55 & 56K ,


    Comparing above our offers to below
    I saw above review who live in NY , abt same MSRP on GS 350 ,
    He pays $575/Month 10K//27 month

    Net cap costs ? is Sale price ? I should ask you before deal with dealer .

    You want to negotiate the best selling price and ensure that the money factor is not being marked up on you by the dealer. That will get you the best monthly payment.

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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    Dear Kyfdx,

    I got below Numbers from Dealer today
    GS350 F Sport AWD, MSRP $57,945 Sell Price $53200 Including $1800 Cash Rebate.
    12K/Yr 36month Lease , MF 0.0009% RV: 64%
    $609/Month, Just Month Plus DMV Costs . NY Sales Tax , 8.625% Rolled into Payment
    Upto 25K (5,10,15,20,25k) Maintenance free service


    is this good deal ?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    nex said:

    Dear Kyfdx,

    I got below Numbers from Dealer today
    GS350 F Sport AWD, MSRP $57,945 Sell Price $53200 Including $1800 Cash Rebate.
    12K/Yr 36month Lease , MF 0.0009% RV: 64%
    $609/Month, Just Month Plus DMV Costs . NY Sales Tax , 8.625% Rolled into Payment
    Upto 25K (5,10,15,20,25k) Maintenance free service


    is this good deal ?

    I'm calculating the sales tax as $1642, so the net cap goes to $52,842. I get a payment of $575.99 with those numbers.

    Anything else being added into the net cap cost that we're not accounting for?

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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    Thks KYFDX, Sales tax as $1652 , What's The Net cap ? , How did you get $575.99 THis means
    i should get $576 /Month instead of $609/Month ? Kindly advise me detail Thks
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    nex said:

    Thks KYFDX, Sales tax as $1652 , What's The Net cap ? , How did you get $575.99 THis means
    i should get $576 /Month instead of $609/Month ? Kindly advise me detail Thks

    I added the sales tax to the selling price you provided to get the net cap cost.

    Yes, my calculations show $576/mo. Dealer needs to explain to you how they got $609/mo - or almost $1200 more for the 36 month term.

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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2015
    Dear KYFDX, Kindly recalculate , You net cap costs , you typed above $52842,
    My sell price $53200 Plus tax 1652 then Net Cap $54842 ?

    kindly re-calculate and advise me , really appreciated .
    And advise us your calculation detail . THks
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    nex said:

    Dear KYFDX, Kindly recalculate , You net cap costs , you typed above $52842,
    My sell price $53200 Plus tax 1652 then Net Cap $54842 ?

    kindly re-calculate and advise me , really appreciated .
    And advise us your calculation detail . THks

    Sorry, I must have mis-typed. I am using $54,842 as the cap cost in my calculations.

    There are many lease calculators available on the web .. simply use the numbers provided.

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    arnaarna Member Posts: 15
    Hello

    Ive been told by a broker that I might be able to get a better deal on the gs350 in february but certainly wont do worse. 

    Is he anticipating a change in MF/RV or factory incentive?

    was ready to sign papers today before this curveball.

    I have a current offer for 
    $1k drive off $515/month tax included
    $57,685 msrp
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    arna said:

    Hello

    Ive been told by a broker that I might be able to get a better deal on the gs350 in february but certainly wont do worse. 

    Is he anticipating a change in MF/RV or factory incentive?

    was ready to sign papers today before this curveball.

    I have a current offer for 
    $1k drive off $515/month tax included
    $57,685 msrp

    What is the selling price on your current offer?

    Hard to predict what will happen to the Lexus lease numbers next month.

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    arnaarna Member Posts: 15
    I actually have not asked about the Sale price 
    its 50,000 after the 1800 and whatever is left over from my 1k by my calculations. I forgot to mention 15k lease.



    Michaell said:
    Hello

    Ive been told by a broker that I might be able to get a better deal on the gs350 in february but certainly wont do worse. 

    Is he anticipating a change in MF/RV or factory incentive?

    was ready to sign papers today before this curveball.

    I have a current offer for 
    $1k drive off $515/month tax included
    $57,685 msrp
    What is the selling price on your current offer? Hard to predict what will happen to the Lexus lease numbers next month.

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    arna said:

    I actually have not asked about the Sale price 
    its 50,000 after the 1800 and whatever is left over from my 1k by my calculations. I forgot to mention 15k lease.



    Michaell said:



    arna said:

    Hello

    Ive been told by a broker that I might be able to get a better deal on the gs350 in february but certainly wont do worse. 

    Is he anticipating a change in MF/RV or factory incentive?

    was ready to sign papers today before this curveball.

    I have a current offer for 
    $1k drive off $515/month tax included
    $57,685 msrp

    What is the selling price on your current offer?

    Hard to predict what will happen to the Lexus lease numbers next month.



    $515/mo with tax is a decent lease payment on a car that stickers for almost $58K.

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    arnaarna Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:
    I actually have not asked about the Sale price 
    its 50,000 after the 1800 and whatever is left over from my 1k by my calculations. I forgot to mention 15k lease.



    Michaell said:
    Hello

    Ive been told by a broker that I might be able to get a better deal on the gs350 in february but certainly wont do worse. 

    Is he anticipating a change in MF/RV or factory incentive?

    was ready to sign papers today before this curveball.

    I have a current offer for 
    $1k drive off $515/month tax included
    $57,685 msrp
    What is the selling price on your current offer? Hard to predict what will happen to the Lexus lease numbers next month.

    $515/mo with tax is a decent lease payment on a car that stickers for almost $58K.
    I dont think I could have done much better considering I need the 15k miles.

    thank you for the info. 
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    xruined901xruined901 Member Posts: 52
    With respect to the $1800 incentive, is it normally applied separately on the lease as cap cost reduction, which is then taxed? So for a 7% tax rate, $126 is added to the fees due.

    Or is it possible to ask dealer to work the incentive into the gross cap cost (selling price) so it doesn't get taxed?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336

    With respect to the $1800 incentive, is it normally applied separately on the lease as cap cost reduction, which is then taxed? So for a 7% tax rate, $126 is added to the fees due.

    Or is it possible to ask dealer to work the incentive into the gross cap cost (selling price) so it doesn't get taxed?

    I think it has to be applied as a cap cost reduction, so it is subject to tax.

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    mcb345mcb345 Member Posts: 32
    Anyone know if the $1800 dealer cash is continuing through the month of February or has that info not been released yet?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,343
    mcb345 said:

    Anyone know if the $1800 dealer cash is continuing through the month of February or has that info not been released yet?

    Won't know until later this week... Seems doubtful that it would go away, without some other incentive to offset it..

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    mcb345mcb345 Member Posts: 32
    Checking in to see if the GS February number have come in yet for 36 month 12k and also if the $1800 cash was still available? Thanks.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    mcb345 said:

    Checking in to see if the GS February number have come in yet for 36 month 12k and also if the $1800 cash was still available? Thanks.

    .00070 and $1800 lease cash.

    64% residual for 36/12

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    mcb345mcb345 Member Posts: 32
    Michaell said:

    mcb345 said:

    Checking in to see if the GS February number have come in yet for 36 month 12k and also if the $1800 cash was still available? Thanks.

    .00070 and $1800 lease cash.

    64% residual for 36/12
    Just to confirm, these are national numbers that should be seen in any state correct? Specifically, IL.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    mcb345 said:

    Michaell said:

    mcb345 said:

    Checking in to see if the GS February number have come in yet for 36 month 12k and also if the $1800 cash was still available? Thanks.

    .00070 and $1800 lease cash.

    64% residual for 36/12
    Just to confirm, these are national numbers that should be seen in any state correct? Specifically, IL.
    Funny you should ask. The only information we have is for the central area, which includes IL. Not often are there regional differences, but in this case, you got lucky. :smile:

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    lj7006lj7006 Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2015
    Greetings everyone,
    I am from Southern California and I have just started my search on cars.
    So right now I have gotten some numbers from dealerships.
    24 months 12k miles/yr
    MSRP $57685
    $0 drive off (first payment waived)
    $650 (including 9% LA county tax)
    I am just wondering why are my numbers so high compare to others on the forum as it seems like everyone else from socal is getting low $500 range payment?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    lj7006 said:

    Greetings everyone,
    I am from Southern California and I have just started my search on cars.
    So right now I have gotten some numbers from dealerships.
    24 months 12k miles/yr
    MSRP $57685
    $0 drive off (first payment waived)
    $650 (including 9% LA county tax)
    I am just wondering why are my numbers so high compare to others on the forum as it seems like everyone else from socal is getting low $500 range payment?

    What is the net cap cost of your offer?

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    South BaySouth Bay Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2015
    Hi Michaell, can you please provide residual #s for 24/27/36 months, 10k/year? '15 GS 350 RWD. Thank you
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    South Bay said:

    Hi Michaell, can you please provide residual #s for 24/27/36 months, 10k/year? '15 GS 350 RWD. Thank you

    71% / 70% / 65%

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    mcb345mcb345 Member Posts: 32
    Michaell said:

    mcb345 said:

    Michaell said:

    mcb345 said:

    Checking in to see if the GS February number have come in yet for 36 month 12k and also if the $1800 cash was still available? Thanks.

    .00070 and $1800 lease cash.

    64% residual for 36/12
    Just to confirm, these are national numbers that should be seen in any state correct? Specifically, IL.
    Funny you should ask. The only information we have is for the central area, which includes IL. Not often are there regional differences, but in this case, you got lucky. :smile:
    This is very good news. I was told the MF was .00090 from an OH dealer so I'm assuming they aren't in the same region then but if IL is in fact .00070 then that will likely push me to stay in IL.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,343
    mcb345 said:

    Michaell said:

    mcb345 said:

    Michaell said:

    mcb345 said:

    Checking in to see if the GS February number have come in yet for 36 month 12k and also if the $1800 cash was still available? Thanks.

    .00070 and $1800 lease cash.

    64% residual for 36/12
    Just to confirm, these are national numbers that should be seen in any state correct? Specifically, IL.
    Funny you should ask. The only information we have is for the central area, which includes IL. Not often are there regional differences, but in this case, you got lucky. :smile:
    This is very good news. I was told the MF was .00090 from an OH dealer so I'm assuming they aren't in the same region then but if IL is in fact .00070 then that will likely push me to stay in IL.
    Yes.. .00070 is the special MF for Illinois.. .00090 MF is the national number.

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    treated07treated07 Member Posts: 8
    I stumbled upon this deal, I was wondering roughly how much I could negotiate off of the price and what MF and residuals they are using?? Thanks everyone.


    2015GS350 F SPORTAWD
    $449mo.36mos.
    $3,499due at signing.
    Complimentary Navigation Included
    Excludes official fees, taxes and dealer charges. No security deposit required. 10,000 mile/year limit.
    *Available on approved credit to very well qualified customers through Lexus Financial Services and participating Lexus dealers on a new 2015 GS 350 F Sport AWD. Not all customers will qualify. Offer based on MSRP of $56,670 including delivery, processing and handling. Monthly payment may vary depending on final price of vehicle & your qualifications. You pay $0.25 per mile over 10,000 per year. See dealer for vehicle and lease program details. Must take delivery by 3/2/2015. This offer is available in IL.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    treated07 said:

    I stumbled upon this deal, I was wondering roughly how much I could negotiate off of the price and what MF and residuals they are using?? Thanks everyone.


    2015GS350 F SPORTAWD
    $449mo.36mos.
    $3,499due at signing.
    Complimentary Navigation Included
    Excludes official fees, taxes and dealer charges. No security deposit required. 10,000 mile/year limit.
    *Available on approved credit to very well qualified customers through Lexus Financial Services and participating Lexus dealers on a new 2015 GS 350 F Sport AWD. Not all customers will qualify. Offer based on MSRP of $56,670 including delivery, processing and handling. Monthly payment may vary depending on final price of vehicle & your qualifications. You pay $0.25 per mile over 10,000 per year. See dealer for vehicle and lease program details. Must take delivery by 3/2/2015. This offer is available in IL.

    65% and .00090 for 36/10.

    You should be able to negotiate a better price on your own. And, we don't recommend making a down payment on a lease - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.

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    treated07treated07 Member Posts: 8
    Thanks Michaell
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    lj7006lj7006 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    lj7006 said:

    Greetings everyone,
    I am from Southern California and I have just started my search on cars.
    So right now I have gotten some numbers from dealerships.
    24 months 12k miles/yr
    MSRP $57685
    $0 drive off (first payment waived)
    $650 (including 9% LA county tax)
    I am just wondering why are my numbers so high compare to others on the forum as it seems like everyone else from socal is getting low $500 range payment?

    What is the net cap cost of your offer?
    MSRP $57685
    Selling price $52296
    mf .0009
    residual 40379.50

    These are the numbers that I was given. Actually this quote is from an auto broker which is the best deal I have gotten so far. Dealerships are giving me numbers like $680 otd $1k drive off and wouldn't budge at all. I am wondering if there's something wrong with.

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    lj7006 said:

    Michaell said:

    lj7006 said:

    Greetings everyone,
    I am from Southern California and I have just started my search on cars.
    So right now I have gotten some numbers from dealerships.
    24 months 12k miles/yr
    MSRP $57685
    $0 drive off (first payment waived)
    $650 (including 9% LA county tax)
    I am just wondering why are my numbers so high compare to others on the forum as it seems like everyone else from socal is getting low $500 range payment?

    What is the net cap cost of your offer?
    MSRP $57685
    Selling price $52296
    mf .0009
    residual 40379.50

    These are the numbers that I was given. Actually this quote is from an auto broker which is the best deal I have gotten so far. Dealerships are giving me numbers like $680 otd $1k drive off and wouldn't budge at all. I am wondering if there's something wrong with.

    The selling price and the net cap cost are not always the same thing. Ask the dealer for the net cap cost and have them explain how they got to that number from the selling price.

    Using the numbers you've given, along with the base MF of .00090 and the 24/12 residual of 70%, I get a pre-tax payment of $579.93 and $632.12 after tax.

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    phampauphampau Member Posts: 12
    Can you confirm that the MF is .0007 and not .0009? I know it was .00009 last month before 2/2/15 but not sure after. I am in Alabama/Florida. Thanks, Paul
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,336
    phampau said:

    Can you confirm that the MF is .0007 and not .0009? I know it was .00009 last month before 2/2/15 but not sure after. I am in Alabama/Florida. Thanks, Paul

    The national number is still .00090. The lower MF of .00070 is for Illinois only.

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    phampauphampau Member Posts: 12
    Thank you sir, that is what I was just told by the dealer! Just wanted to confirm
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    MZA212MZA212 Member Posts: 355
    Do you have the FEB numbers for the GS 350 F lease 10k,12k and 15k ?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,343
    mzia said:

    Do you have the FEB numbers for the GS 350 F lease 10k,12k and 15k ?
    Thank you


    .00090 MF and 65%/64%/62% residual for 36 months. $1800 lease cash

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    travispete1travispete1 Member Posts: 46
    Looking forward to new lease programs on gs starting tomorrow
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    travispete1travispete1 Member Posts: 46
    heard that lexus is doing 1st mo payment included now.
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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    Can you confirm that MF and RV for 2015 gs350 f sport 27month 12k and 36 month 12k
    Lexus has new program starting from02/12/15 thks
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    nexnex Member Posts: 9
    Any cash intensive and pomotion..?
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