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For 2015 gs and gs f sport thks
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I spoke to a local dealer he said 2300 goes to cap reduction 700 bank fees and the u need 1816 on top for taxes. Is this a good deal?
And, the national or regional deal uses a selling price you should be able to beat with decent negotiation skills.
Negotiate the selling price just like you would for a purchase, watch out for any hidden fees, and make sure the dealer isn't inflating the money factor on you (.00090 this month for the GS).
Up front costs would include first month's payment, bank fee, license or registration costs, and, depending on where you live, sales tax.
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69% and 64%
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I'm just starting my search for a GS 350 F-Sport RWD in the Southern CA area. Got a quote from dealer and want to see if the math works out or if they're somehow sneaking in additional fees/costs?
12k/year for 36 months
MSRP: $55,105
Initial price reduction $2,647
"Selling price" $52,458
Options $359
Sub-Total $52,817
Fees $562.75
Sales Tax $4,234.08
Balance Due $57,613.83
Monthly payment $594.07
Residual 64%
Money Factor 0.00110 (I don't know why, but this is higher than the 0.0009 that is going around in this forum)
When I do the math, using selling price of $52,458, monthly payment should be $574. Am I missing something?...how'd they get $594.07. Also, the sales tax that is shown as a line item, is that divided over the 36 months of term of the lease (so am I paying a portion of that over 36 months)? Sales tax in my area is 8%.
Finally, is this a good deal or is there room to bring down the negotiated price? Thank you all for your help/advice/input.
Tax rules vary by state.. Which one?
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California applies sales tax to the monthly payment - not sure why there is a line item that quotes $4200 in sales tax. Dealer might think it's a purchase?
As noted, the MF is marked up on you. Politely but firmly explain that you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. Work with a second Lexus dealer - the competition will only help you get the best pricing and terms.
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.00090 for all terms
24 months 70%
27 months 69%
36 months 64%
Add 1% for 10K miles per year.
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Our last few new purchases have been BMWs and the general rule of thumb for negotiating sales price is invoice plus, generally $500-$1000 based on model. What's the strategy with Lexus? I assume there are dealer incentives that go against invoice?
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NEW HERE! LOOKING FOR HELP
LEXUS GS 350 CRAFTED LINE F
MSRP 59,575
INVOICE 56,636.00
10k miles a year 33 months no money down just dmv fee bank fee due at signing (typical)
here in NYS
512 a month
Is this a good price?
I love the crafted line
Thanks, obvi the first month free promo is going towards cap cost reduction
any other ways to get this lower, dealer is telling me that LEXUS does NOT allow MSD
I have read they do
Thoughts
Much appreciated
Cannot do MSD in NY.
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Do you bring up the MSD's during the negotiation of the sales price or only when you're talking to the finance dept? Also does anyone know how much MF each MSD lowers? I've read .0001 and I've also seen .00008. The MF is already .0007 so I'm curious as to what is the lowest MF it can be lowered to.
Thanks for the all the info guys.
The lowest MF allowed by Lexus after MSDs is .00001
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Right?
I have not leased a lexus yet I currently have a 2013 G37x
I have heard others leasing in Jersey using MSD and registering the car in NY
Help!
So you already have a low price on the car
It definitely helps the money factor
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2015 GS 350 AWD
MSRP: 55415
36/15
Cap cost: 52075.52
Taxes: 1877.00
Acq fee: 700
Gross cap cost: 54652.52
The $1800 dealer cash was used as cap cost reduction.
Residual: 65%
MF: 0.0007
Amount due at lease signing or delivery
Cap cost reduction: $1800 (dealer lease cash)
First monthly payment: $514.63 (credit 1st monthly payment promo)
Refundable security deposit: $5175
Title fees: $95
License fees: $101
Acq fee: N/A (rolled into cap cost)
Document fee: $168.43
Electronic filing fee: $25
Total: $7879.06
$1800 + $514.63= $2314.63 to be paid by dealer as above
Net amount due at signing: $5564.43
Preliminary monthly payment was $574.80. This was higher because they charged the tax on the 9 MSD's I put down. I put down $575 * 9 for a total of $5175.
This lowered the MF to 0.00001 (the lowest it can go) and brought the payment to $514.63.
From looking at the deals online it looks like people are getting even lower sale prices in CA but after going around to 3-4 dealers back and forth, this was the best I could do in my area.
The sales manager was knowledgable about the MSD's but the finance guy had apparently never done it in the 8 years he's been there. They all kept saying since the MF is so low, why bother? But as you can see the savings are $60.17 *36 months= $2166.12 over the course of the lease. $2166.12/$5175= 41.8% return.
For anyone who has questions about this and is in the Chicagoland area, I'll be happy to answer anything.
Not trying to be rude but your numbers are just slightly off on your MSD savings. Its actually $60.17*35 (your first month was free regardless of payment/MSD).
Your MSD should have been your payment AFTER the new rate, rounded to the nearest $25. Thus, $525*9= $4725 (at least that how it worked for my lease).
Are you sure your Residual was 65% on 36m/15k?
Residuals are 67% and 62%
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.00090 MF. $1800 lease cash. Complimentary 1st payment
70% and 65% residual.
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Also I wanted some help regarding Taxes. When leasing a Car in South Florida do you pay the same amount in taxes as if you were buying the Car? Example if the Car sells for 50K * 6% = $3,000 in Taxes?
Please let me Know
Florida taxes the monthly lease payment.. so, if your payment is $500+tax, then the post-tax payment will be $530.
Any CAP reductions (downpayments, rebates, etc) paid upfront are taxed upfront, as well.
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We don't have any info on leasing 2014 Lexus models. I would expect the lease terms to be poor, though.
I don't have the Lexus MSD program info, unfortunately. Most makes require a minimum of .00005 or .00001 for the MF, though I'm not sure of the Lexus Finance minimum.
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Term36
Base Payment495.78
Total Payment535.45
Purchase Option36,918.40
MSRP57,685.00
Est. Miles Per Year12,000
Disposition Fee350.00
Excess Mileage Charge0.25
Amount Due at Signing
1st Month Payment535.45
Fees & Insurance594.75
Upfront Taxes95.20
Total Inception Fees1,225.40
Rebate as Cap Reduction1,110.05
Total Drive Off2,335.45
How Inception Fees are Paid
Rebate as Drive Off1,225.40
Total Credits1,225.40
Remaining Due (Still Owed)0.00
Total Cash Required on delivery 0.00
out of 3 dealers this is the best deal i got can u tell me 0 drive off 535.45 a month 36m 12k is it a good deal or can i get better.
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The residual should be correct, at least from what I've saw from the other quotes and posts in this thread.
1.) Can you provide me the MF and Residuals.
24 mos/15k
27 mos/15k
36 mos/15k
2.) What is the best price I could negotiate with a dealer? (Most Reasonable Price)☺
At minimum, should I aim for 15% off the MSRP? In this case it would be $51,071.40
3.) I do not plan to put any money down. Can you tell me what costs I will have to cover once we come to terms on a deal? (Acq. Fee, Tax, Title, etc.)
4.) Can you provide a payment break down using the 15% off price?
5.) Lastly, what negotiation approach do you recommend? Go to the dealer or send an email to multiple dealers providing the numbers I’m looking for?
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
.00090 MF and 68%/67%/62% residual
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$449 mo. x 36 mos. for 10K
The offer is based on the MSRP of $56,415.
What is the MF and Residual being used? I am trying to determine how the payment was calculated.
Thanks