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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251

    Looking for MF, residual and lease cash for Fusion Energi Titanium with Nav in Los Angeles. 12K per year, 2 year and 3 year lease options. Thx

    2016 Fusion Energi Titanium - 55% and .75% for 24/12; 47% and .50% for 36/12.

    $6007 lease cash.

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  • tyleryactyleryac Member Posts: 20
    I just left a deposit on a Fusion. SE, AWD, Tech, Luxury.

    $260/Month $1,000 Down 10,500Miles
    Selling price $26,xxx MSRP $33,590
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    tyleryac said:

    I just left a deposit on a Fusion. SE, AWD, Tech, Luxury.

    $260/Month $1,000 Down 10,500Miles
    Selling price $26,xxx MSRP $33,590

    What lease term?

    $260/mo (with tax?) for a $33K car is a good lease deal.

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  • tyleryactyleryac Member Posts: 20
    36 Months
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    tyleryac said:

    36 Months

    Yep, good deal.

    53% residual.

    What state is this? Ford MF is regional.

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  • pbutynskipbutynski Member Posts: 3
    I have a question on how good this deal is.

    2016 Ford Fusion SE w/ Technology Package

    36 Month Lease @ 195/mo. 1250 Down as well as 1K trade in on a non running 2003 Audi A4. Milage @ 10,500/yr

    Residual is $12,127.80.

    Please let me know.

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    pbutynski said:

    I have a question on how good this deal is.

    2016 Ford Fusion SE w/ Technology Package

    36 Month Lease @ 195/mo. 1250 Down as well as 1K trade in on a non running 2003 Audi A4. Milage @ 10,500/yr

    Residual is $12,127.80.

    Please let me know.

    Thanks

    Need to know the MSRP and the negotiated selling price.

    What state? Ford numbers are regional.

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  • pbutynskipbutynski Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    pbutynski said:

    I have a question on how good this deal is.

    2016 Ford Fusion SE w/ Technology Package

    36 Month Lease @ 195/mo. 1250 Down as well as 1K trade in on a non running 2003 Audi A4. Milage @ 10,500/yr

    Residual is $12,127.80.

    Please let me know.

    Thanks

    Need to know the MSRP and the negotiated selling price.

    What state? Ford numbers are regional.
    Hello Michaell,

    Sorry about that I was in a hurry when I first posted. The MSRP was $24,520 and negotiated price was $20,228. This is in California.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    pbutynski said:

    Michaell said:

    pbutynski said:

    I have a question on how good this deal is.

    2016 Ford Fusion SE w/ Technology Package

    36 Month Lease @ 195/mo. 1250 Down as well as 1K trade in on a non running 2003 Audi A4. Milage @ 10,500/yr

    Residual is $12,127.80.

    Please let me know.

    Thanks

    Need to know the MSRP and the negotiated selling price.

    What state? Ford numbers are regional.
    Hello Michaell,

    Sorry about that I was in a hurry when I first posted. The MSRP was $24,520 and negotiated price was $20,228. This is in California.
    53% residual and .50% APR (.00021 MF).

    How much of the down payment and trade equity are being used as down payment to lower the price?

    With your prices, as is, I get $208/mo before tax.

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  • pbutynskipbutynski Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    pbutynski said:

    Michaell said:

    pbutynski said:

    I have a question on how good this deal is.

    2016 Ford Fusion SE w/ Technology Package

    36 Month Lease @ 195/mo. 1250 Down as well as 1K trade in on a non running 2003 Audi A4. Milage @ 10,500/yr

    Residual is $12,127.80.

    Please let me know.

    Thanks

    Need to know the MSRP and the negotiated selling price.

    What state? Ford numbers are regional.
    Hello Michaell,

    Sorry about that I was in a hurry when I first posted. The MSRP was $24,520 and negotiated price was $20,228. This is in California.
    53% residual and .50% APR (.00021 MF).

    How much of the down payment and trade equity are being used as down payment to lower the price?

    With your prices, as is, I get $208/mo before tax.
    Well we sort of had a bad experience with a Sales Manager at the dealership and we ended up speaking with the GM and he gave us the terms of the lease earlier stated as a peace offering so I was just trying to see if that was decent or not.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    pbutynski said:

    Michaell said:

    pbutynski said:

    Michaell said:

    pbutynski said:

    I have a question on how good this deal is.

    2016 Ford Fusion SE w/ Technology Package

    36 Month Lease @ 195/mo. 1250 Down as well as 1K trade in on a non running 2003 Audi A4. Milage @ 10,500/yr

    Residual is $12,127.80.

    Please let me know.

    Thanks

    Need to know the MSRP and the negotiated selling price.

    What state? Ford numbers are regional.
    Hello Michaell,

    Sorry about that I was in a hurry when I first posted. The MSRP was $24,520 and negotiated price was $20,228. This is in California.
    53% residual and .50% APR (.00021 MF).

    How much of the down payment and trade equity are being used as down payment to lower the price?

    With your prices, as is, I get $208/mo before tax.
    Well we sort of had a bad experience with a Sales Manager at the dealership and we ended up speaking with the GM and he gave us the terms of the lease earlier stated as a peace offering so I was just trying to see if that was decent or not.
    If the $195/mo is with tax it is an excellent deal.

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  • bigalpobigalpo Member Posts: 11
    Hi there, I live in Knoxville, TN. Looking at a 2016 Fusion Titanium lease and would appreciate the money factor and current residual. Also, I'm a bit confused, does leasing this car get all the Ford incentives - Friends and family, black Friday cash, etc? Or does leasing get some different incentive. Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!
  • bigalpobigalpo Member Posts: 11
    A couple other things: 36 months, 12k miles and 36 months 10.5k miles is what I'm looking at. Also, does the friends and family discount come out of Ford or out of the dealership? I'm talking to a sales person and they are quoting me dealer invoice for a price which they say is better than friends and family. My impression was I should get friends and family on top of the dealer concession on price. Thanks again!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    bigalpo said:

    Hi there, I live in Knoxville, TN. Looking at a 2016 Fusion Titanium lease and would appreciate the money factor and current residual. Also, I'm a bit confused, does leasing this car get all the Ford incentives - Friends and family, black Friday cash, etc? Or does leasing get some different incentive. Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

    bigalpo said:

    A couple other things: 36 months, 12k miles and 36 months 10.5k miles is what I'm looking at. Also, does the friends and family discount come out of Ford or out of the dealership? I'm talking to a sales person and they are quoting me dealer invoice for a price which they say is better than friends and family. My impression was I should get friends and family on top of the dealer concession on price. Thanks again!

    0.25% APR and 55%/56% residual. $1750 lease cash

    The "Friends and Family" deal is like having A plan (or whatever letter they use). It's a fixed discount. The dealer is compensated by Ford. No negotiation under that. But, ask for that number, and make sure that their offer is cheaper.

    Leasing may give different incentives than purchase. We don't have all of that information, however.

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  • wardt01wardt01 Member Posts: 16
    Hello! can you provide MF and Residual for 2016 Fusion Titanium with AWD. 53202/Milwaukee, 10,500 miles for 24 or 36 months. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    wardt01 said:

    Hello! can you provide MF and Residual for 2016 Fusion Titanium with AWD. 53202/Milwaukee, 10,500 miles for 24 or 36 months. Thanks

    1.50% APR and 65% residual
    0.25% APR and 56% residual.

    $1750 lease cash

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  • jasonteejasontee Member Posts: 9
    Looking for MF and Residual for 2016 Fusion Titanium FWD, 36 months, 15,000 miles in Ohio.

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    jasontee said:

    Looking for MF and Residual for 2016 Fusion Titanium FWD, 36 months, 15,000 miles in Ohio.

    Thanks!

    53% and .50%. $2250 lease cash.

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  • empirestateempirestate Member Posts: 6
    I'm looking to lease a 2016 Fusion Titanium FWD with a gross capitalized cost of 33126.95. It's a loaded out Fusion with all the tech bells and whistles. Pretty much everything. What would be the residual value for it? It's 36 months/15,000 miles in New Jersey. How do you calculate it? What's the difference between "Residual Value" and "Depreciation and any amoritized amounts"? Also... what's a "Rent Charge"?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659

    I'm looking to lease a 2016 Fusion Titanium FWD with a gross capitalized cost of 33126.95. It's a loaded out Fusion with all the tech bells and whistles. Pretty much everything. What would be the residual value for it? It's 36 months/15,000 miles in New Jersey. How do you calculate it? What's the difference between "Residual Value" and "Depreciation and any amoritized amounts"? Also... what's a "Rent Charge"?

    0.25% APR and 53% residual. $2500 lease cash

    Here is a good post on calculating lease payments:
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/12602/general/x/how-to-calculate-monthly-lease-payments/p1

    Residual value is a percentage of MSRP
    Residual is what the car is worth at the end of the lease

    "Depreciation and any amortized amounts" is the CAP cost of the vehicle minus the residual value. It's basically the amount you are paying for the lease, not including the finance portion

    Rent charge = finance portion of the lease. Sometimes this is expressed as the full amount for the term of the lease.

    Those last two, added together, then divided by the number of months will result in your monthly lease payment.

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  • empirestateempirestate Member Posts: 6
    After looking over my lease I noticed some issues with what I originally asked for in the lease terms and what they provided. I'm glad I looked because I would have signed a lease that is based on 36/12,000 instead of 36/15,000. That, and other things (getting the adjusted capitalized cost wrong) is starting to sour me to the idea of leasing.

    Those concerns aside I appreciate your help.

    How do they calculate the "rent" charge? Also... when they do the residual value is it based on the Adjusted capitalized cost or the gross?

    Here's another residual value question... should the residual value of the vehicle be different from the purchase option at the end of the lease? On my lease they are different and it seems odd to me.

    Maybe I should just lay it out there. The numbers below are for 36/12000 with a money factor of 2.5.
    Gross cap. cost: 34925.52 (Agreed on value of vehicle 33126.95)
    Cap. Cost reduction: 5203.03
    Adjusted Cap cost: 29722.49
    Residual Value: 19636.50 (End of lease purchase price option is 20136.50?!)
    Depreciation: 10085.99
    Rent Charge: 2061.85
    Base Payments: 12147.84
    Lease term: 36 months
    Payments: 337.44

    Thanks again...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251

    After looking over my lease I noticed some issues with what I originally asked for in the lease terms and what they provided. I'm glad I looked because I would have signed a lease that is based on 36/12,000 instead of 36/15,000. That, and other things (getting the adjusted capitalized cost wrong) is starting to sour me to the idea of leasing.

    Those concerns aside I appreciate your help.

    How do they calculate the "rent" charge? Also... when they do the residual value is it based on the Adjusted capitalized cost or the gross?

    Here's another residual value question... should the residual value of the vehicle be different from the purchase option at the end of the lease? On my lease they are different and it seems odd to me.

    Maybe I should just lay it out there. The numbers below are for 36/12000 with a money factor of 2.5.
    Gross cap. cost: 34925.52 (Agreed on value of vehicle 33126.95)
    Cap. Cost reduction: 5203.03
    Adjusted Cap cost: 29722.49
    Residual Value: 19636.50 (End of lease purchase price option is 20136.50?!)
    Depreciation: 10085.99
    Rent Charge: 2061.85
    Base Payments: 12147.84
    Lease term: 36 months
    Payments: 337.44

    Thanks again...

    Rent charge is the interest due on the lease .. it uses a number called a "money factor" which equates roughly to the interest rate.

    The residual value is the MSRP multiplied by the residual rate; the buyout amount is probably adjusted ($500) by an additional fee - ask the dealer what that is.

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  • mikec1820mikec1820 Member Posts: 4
    Looking for residual and MF for 2016 Fusion SE and Hybrid SE in Virginia, 24 and 36 months, 10.5k or 12k miles per year
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    mikec1820 said:

    Looking for residual and MF for 2016 Fusion SE and Hybrid SE in Virginia, 24 and 36 months, 10.5k or 12k miles per year

    For 12K/yr. Add 1% for 10.5K

    SE
    2.25% APR and 61% residual
    0.50% APR and 52% residual
    $2250 lease cash

    Hybrid SE
    1.50% APR and 62% residual
    1.75% APR and 53% residual
    No lease cash

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  • robb8888robb8888 Member Posts: 7
    Looking for lease numbers (MF, residual, lease cash available) for a 2016 or 2015 Fusion SE with 2.0L engine (does that make a difference to any of the figures) in Southern California. Thank you very much!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    robb8888 said:

    Looking for lease numbers (MF, residual, lease cash available) for a 2016 or 2015 Fusion SE with 2.0L engine (does that make a difference to any of the figures) in Southern California. Thank you very much!

    Yes.. numbers are different.

    Which term and mileage allowance?

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  • robb8888robb8888 Member Posts: 7
    Sorry -- I'll repost with details. Looking for lease numbers (MF, residual, lease cash available), 36 months, 12K/15K miles per year for a 2015 or 2016 Ford Fusion SE with 2.0T engine, Southern California.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    robb8888 said:

    Sorry -- I'll repost with details. Looking for lease numbers (MF, residual, lease cash available), 36 months, 12K/15K miles per year for a 2015 or 2016 Ford Fusion SE with 2.0T engine, Southern California.

    I'll assume FWD as you are in SoCal. 36/15 numbers:
    2016 - 50% and .50%. $2500 lease cash.
    2015 - no residual information and standard MF (around 5-6%)

    Me thinks the 2016 will be the better deal ... :smile:

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  • joe24joe24 Member Posts: 67
    Looking for MF and residual and any incentives for 2016 SE AWD and Titanium AWD in NJ for 36/12. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    joe24 said:

    Looking for MF and residual and any incentives for 2016 SE AWD and Titanium AWD in NJ for 36/12. Thanks!

    SE AWD - 52%
    Titanium AWD - 55%

    .25% and $2500 lease cash.

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  • sl1288sl1288 Member Posts: 58
    Hello! can you provide MF and Residual for 2016 Fusion Titanium with AWD? Providence, RI 15,000 miles for 36 months. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    sl1288 said:

    Hello! can you provide MF and Residual for 2016 Fusion Titanium with AWD? Providence, RI 15,000 miles for 36 months. Thanks

    0.25% APR and 53% residual. $2500 lease cash.

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  • joe24joe24 Member Posts: 67
    Just signed a deal for Ford fusion 2016 Titanium with AWD that I think is a great deal. MSRP is 37,290. In NJ (7% tax) got the deal for $280/month with only $300 upfront - 36/12. That includes taxes, title/MV and first months. I was able to get 5250 in lease cash. There is 3250 available at year end, 500 holiday, 1000 conquest and 500 college (just need a kid in college). Selling price was 33500, residual 55% and interest rate is 0.25%. MV fees/ bank application fee, doc fee's/other is around 1800. I probably could have squeezed more out ($10 more) but they had the one car we wanted.
  • x_driverx_driver Member Posts: 18
    joe24 said:
    Just signed a deal for Ford fusion 2016 Titanium with AWD that I think is a great deal. MSRP is 37,290. In NJ (7% tax) got the deal for $280/month with only $300 upfront - 36/12. That includes taxes, title/MV and first months. I was able to get 5250 in lease cash. There is 3250 available at year end, 500 holiday, 1000 conquest and 500 college (just need a kid in college). Selling price was 33500, residual 55% and interest rate is 0.25%. MV fees/ bank application fee, doc fee's/other is around 1800. I probably could have squeezed more out ($10 more) but they had the one car we wanted.

    Looks like a great deal. Do you mind telling which dealer in NJ?
  • joe24joe24 Member Posts: 67
    The maple crest dealer in mendham. They were awesome - really nice - limited haggling - very helpful. By far the best one we dealt with. I also think the performance ford in randolph would do a similar deal. The price was 285 and not 280. It also end of year for this deal. I had one dealer in flemington not do it. I used true car to get the selling price. Be careful with true car because it puts the rebates in the selling price and they need to be removed if you are leasing (getting 5,250 in lease cash).
  • ashleigh919ashleigh919 Member Posts: 79
    joe24 said:

    The maple crest dealer in mendham. They were awesome - really nice - limited haggling - very helpful. By far the best one we dealt with. I also think the performance ford in randolph would do a similar deal. The price was 285 and not 280. It also end of year for this deal. I had one dealer in flemington not do it. I used true car to get the selling price. Be careful with true car because it puts the rebates in the selling price and they need to be removed if you are leasing (getting 5,250 in lease cash).

    Wow, is there really that much cash right now? I thought it was about $3000 (I don't have anyone in college, but even if it's $4,750...). I've been fighting with Ford for over a year about my 2014 Fusion, and I just need out of it. I was going to go this weekend to try to get a new car because my specially-ordered 2014 is a lemon, and they know it. :( I pay $347, including financing my NY tax, X-Plan -- Titanium AWD with Navigation, Driver Assist, Sunroof, Heated steering wheel, and ceramic seats, 12,000 miles, 36 months, $500 down (to negate part of the tax -- long story, but in NY, if anything happens to the car, you won't get the tax back, but you'd get the down payment back!).

    Is it anyone at the dealership in particular? Or just the dealership as a whole? I'd like to call them tomorrow before schlepping from White Plains. I work in NJ anyway, so it's not a HORRIBLE inconvenience for me to go to NJ. Thanks! I just need out of this horrific disaster and into either a 2016 Fusion or an Edge. It's sad, because my 2012 was great, and I thought I was upgrading!
  • jthacker48jthacker48 Member Posts: 11
    Can you provide me with the mf, residual, and lease cash for a 2016 Ford Fusion SE on a 24/10 and 24/12?
  • x_driverx_driver Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2016

    joe24 said:

    The maple crest dealer in mendham. They were awesome - really nice - limited haggling - very helpful. By far the best one we dealt with. I also think the performance ford in randolph would do a similar deal. The price was 285 and not 280. It also end of year for this deal. I had one dealer in flemington not do it. I used true car to get the selling price. Be careful with true car because it puts the rebates in the selling price and they need to be removed if you are leasing (getting 5,250 in lease cash).

    Is it anyone at the dealership in particular? Or just the dealership as a whole? I'd like to call them tomorrow before schlepping from White Plains. I work in NJ anyway, so it's not a HORRIBLE inconvenience for me to go to NJ. Thanks! I just need out of this horrific disaster and into either a 2016 Fusion or an Edge. It's sad, because my 2012 was great, and I thought I was upgrading!
    I tried working a deal for Ford Edge with Maplecrest Mendham, but their pricing was higher than other dealers in area and their inventory was rather limited.

    I found the best configuration + color combination, and deal at All American Ford in Old Bridge NJ. I spoke to Ashley over phone, and the deal was done in few minutes. Highly recommend.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659

    Can you provide me with the mf, residual, and lease cash for a 2016 Ford Fusion SE on a 24/10 and 24/12?

    Which state? Ford numbers are regional.

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  • beckman2713beckman2713 Member Posts: 47
    Hello,
    Any numbers on a Fusion SE AWD NY 12k/36months? Any Cash?
    Thank You
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659

    Hello,
    Any numbers on a Fusion SE AWD NY 12k/36months? Any Cash?
    Thank You

    0.25 % APR and $2750 lease cash.

    We don't have the new residuals for Ford, yet.

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  • toyoman8toyoman8 Member Posts: 114
    edited January 2016
    Looking to lease in Virginia 2016 fusion Titsnium 2wd, 36x10, can you give me the RV and MF for the January plz
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    toyoman8 said:

    Looking to lease in Virginia 2016 fusion Titsnium 2wd, 36x10, can you give me the RV and MF for the January plz

    .50% and $2500 lease cash.

    No residuals yet from Ford, this month.

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  • jrod13jrod13 Member Posts: 38
    What are the numbers on a ford fusion 2.0 FWD....24/12, 24/15 and 36/12 and 36/15...also what lease cash is out now. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    jrod13 said:

    What are the numbers on a ford fusion 2.0 FWD....24/12, 24/15 and 36/12 and 36/15...also what lease cash is out now. Thanks

    What trim level is this?

    And, what state? Ford numbers are regional.

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  • jeremyazjeremyaz Member Posts: 39
    Michaell,
    Can you provide the Ford Fusion SE & Titanium lease rate for Arizona. MF, Residual and incentives/cash? Ideally 24/10 or 24/12 but also 36/10 or 36/12 if needed. Your the best. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    jeremyaz said:

    Michaell,
    Can you provide the Ford Fusion SE & Titanium lease rate for Arizona. MF, Residual and incentives/cash? Ideally 24/10 or 24/12 but also 36/10 or 36/12 if needed. Your the best. Thanks!

    SE:
    24/12 - 60% and 2.25% MF
    36/12 - 51% and .50% MF

    $2500 lease cash.

    Add 3% for Titanium trim.

    Add 1% for 10K

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  • jrod13jrod13 Member Posts: 38
    Sorry was asking about the SE in Nj...thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,251
    jrod13 said:

    What are the numbers on a ford fusion 2.0 FWD....24/12, 24/15 and 36/12 and 36/15...also what lease cash is out now. Thanks

    jrod13 said:

    Sorry was asking about the SE in Nj...thanks

    24/15 - 58% and 2.25%
    36/15 - 49% and .25%

    No mention of lease cash.

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  • gakkukengakkuken Member Posts: 3
    Michaell; Can you help me take a look at this deal when you get a chance?

    I live in VA, and here are all the info I have:
    MSRP: 28975
    Sale Price: 22301
    Processing fee: 599
    Tax 1014.17
    Tags 85.50
    Total: 24874.67

    Payment is $201 a month with $2000 down
    Ford can also roll-in the VA personal property tax into payment, which is $38

    Lease term is: 3-years / 36,000 miles

    thanks,
    rod
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