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Thanks to everyone on this forum for sharing their buying experiences so I had a better idea of what to expect. Especially to Laurasdada.
Can't wait to pick up my new car. (Don't know exactly when that'll be yet since I got my financing from Eloan and the dealership won't release the car until the check clears. Oh well, can't be more than a week.
I'll share whatever info you want. Send private email; I don't have yours available (listed private).
While it was necessary for us to visit each dealer to confirm that, in fact, the their e-mail responses gave a good indication of how they would be to deal with.
So, our experience really confirms what you said. Some dealers are reluctant to deal by e-mail and, if they are, they will probably be the kind that use the old sales tactics. I hestitate to say that any dealer not forthcoming in an e-mail response should be disregarded, but I would tend to think that.
I totally agree with rewarding sales reps who are straightforward, knowledgeable & pleasant to deal with. Once we knew we were dealing with someone like that and had a reasonable price, we readily agreed to the deal.
Happy Motoring!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Yes, I bought the car there ONLY because of price. As far as being a customer at a dealership of the luxury division of Honda is concerned, they were very unprofessional, engaged in deceptive business practices, did not abide by their original terms, and fed me alot of lies about things and when confronted- they "simply did not care" because they said "you got a good deal didn't you?"
Sorry, but I would have rather spent a few hundred dollars more at the next dealership and be treated fairly as opposed to the way they treated me. Unfortunately, as you are probably already aware, dealers in Florida are pretty stingy when it comes to dealing on these cars.
On a lighter note, I strongly recommend Acura of Orange Park and/or Gettel Acura as alternatives i.e. if you are willing to drive there.
Hope this clarifies my statement.
Also, do a search for my posts because you might have read my FIRST post in regards to the dealerhsip and not the follow up one's. That might be the source of the confusion :confuse:
Blue
They probably will not tell you about it.
Thanks
Another dumb question, people have mentioned TTL-I'm guessing "total, tax and license", is this correct? :confuse:
Thanks!
I was just about to finance with Eloan at 5.65% but I applied for financing at Honda after reading your post and actually got 5.44% And going with Honda instead of Eloan means I don't have to wait until the financing check from Eloan clears before picking up the car. I'm picking it up on Sat. Can't wait!!
Thanks!!!
How much can I bargin to get off sticker on Acura's? I refuse to pay sticker price for anything considering I am paying cash and I don't give a hoot about APR's.
Would the dealer be will to go $30,000 even for the car?
My understanding of what "TTL" means is tax, tag and (state) licensing fees, but I could be wrong. :confuse:
For those that don't want to scroll back, the deal is 35,000 OTD price in Virginia with free oil changes, state inspections, and wheel locks thrown in.
Price $32790.00 including destination,mudguards and wheel locks.
Very easy transaction emailed back and forth a few times very responsive.
Drove down to the dealer this after noon in and out in 2 hours.
Highly recommend this dealer I was skeptical at first if they were really going to give me that price becouse all the other dealers said they would not do the deal but they did.
It differs in each state, however.
It's easiest to understand Car+TTL+?doc/other broken down.
Plus included mudguards and wheel locks?
How, exactly did you get that?
Are you sure it wasn't an 05??
You are probably correct in assuming that you will take a large loss, if you try to trade in a six-month old car.. especially one that is has just had a lot of body work..
If it were me, I'd just keep driving it.. Generally, a car isn't going to be any less "safe", if the body work is properly done..
I'm not sure of the insurance laws of your state, but since another party is at fault, you may be able to pursue a "diminished value" claim, that would help you recoup more than just the repair cost.
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kyfdx
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The transaction was fast and the internet managers were great to deal with very fast replys and pricing that was about 500.00 better than the others.
Highly recommend this dealer.
Thanks for the help in this forum
I just got lucky I guess and yes it's a 2006
So far the internet sales guy has opened with an offer of $33,772 + $615 destimnation +$117 dealer processing or a total of $34,504. Doesn't sound that great compared to others.
Think I will press for $33,000 even & see if I can get it.
Wish me luck
That's an average price. Good would be $34K, and great would be at or below $33,500 IMO...
Good luck!
One trick is to only deal with the Internet sales managers and only communicate with them via email. This forces the dealer to give you a written offer that you can very easily forward on to other dealers to beat. I know everyone out there is going to want to know who gave me this price so here is a list of the dealers that I was negotiating with and a quick run down.
Joe Rizza – an initial offer of 33,295 including the destination via a return email from the Acura web site (Best initial offer)
Ed Napleton – Beat Rizza’s price by 200 dollars, but I personally had a falling out with this dealer and I do not recommend them. Very shady they tried to add 100 dollars towards the end of a deal, I walked out!!!
Continental Acura – Matched Ed Napleton’s price and included mudguards 33,095. They were very nice and professional also straight forward, although not happy about letting one go with “all the meat off the bone”
McGraff Acura – Also would match the price of 33, 295 in writing.
Joe Rizza - would sell me the car for 33,015 on a 2nd offer but they were in a higher sales tax area and overall it was not the best deal for me. I ended up purchasing the vehicle from the dealer that was closest to my house and in a lower sales tax bracket. But I do recommend them.
So the bottom line is that dealers in the Chicago area are very competitive and will barging the price if you have the time and patience. Overall, I spent about three days corresponding via emails only and two days actually dealing in person. Good luck!!!
One last note buy the accessories later, Many Acura parts counter will match Internet prices or about 20% off. I was able to get the wing spoiler, body side molding, all weather mats, and a truck tray all 20% off. Just install them yourself and save!!!
In addition the dealer sold me the zero deductible 6 year/120 mile extended warranty for $1300. This saved me another $310. In case you don't know this, the extended warranties can be purchased with 10% down and up to 12 interest free monthly payments for the remaining balance. The monthly payments must be placed on a credit card. Still you are not having to write a check immediately and you get to use Honda Financial's money for a year.
I did all my negotiation via internet sales manager and phone prior to finalizing the deal and reviewing the car at the dealership. No games or hidden costs. Great dealer in Metro Detroit area. He has about 10 remaining 05 TLs and is willing to seek out others for trade at nearby dealers in the tri state area.
Any comments or questions are welcome.
I am in Chicago also shopping around for a 06 TL with nav. I agree with you about STAYING AWAY from Napleton. They are very shady and intimidating in negotiating so I walked out. So far, the best deal I got is from Joe Rizza and Arlington at 36500 otd, but I think I can still do a little better. Would you mind sharing want color combo you got?
Thanks.
The dealer was a jerk could hardly speak english,knew nothing about the car, and cut up Lexus on the entire test drive.
Why am I not getting below MSRP???????? This is insulting considering I am paying Cash for the car no financing what so ever.
I guess the Infiniti is looking better everyday.
Did you finally buy the TL? If so (if you don't mind), where and what was your OTD price?
Thanks.
Your technique may be the problem. It would be very unlikely to have a dealer give you a car at invoice, as generally they would make no money on the deal unless there are dealer incentives. If you contact dealerships via email and ask for their best price, I suspect you will be offered somewhere between $1,000 and $1500 off MSRP. The '06's just arrived as you know and it would be almost unheard of to get one for invoice or even close to invoice.
It is my understanding that the dealerships don't really care these days if you pay cash or finance. In fact, they usually prefer people to lease the car as they can fudge some numbers to get a better profit.
Good luck with your search.
I went in with a fixed price and didn't budge with my local dealer. It was a fair offer (not invoice!) but in the end still a "take it or leave it" offer. The *&^*$'s left it (and profit) on the table. They are, however misguided I may think it is, entitled to do so. It depends sometimes on the dealer and perhaps how much competition there is too and whether they think you'll be back or change your mind??
That's why california and, apparently, Chicago (with many dealers/competition) do better pricing-wise.
Thanks.