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  • 77allen77allen Member Posts: 3
    Okay - this is very helpful - thank you!
  • jdwinnycjdwinnyc Member Posts: 12
    Hello, can you provide the MF and residual for a 2016 VW Tiguan R Line 4 Motion for 36 months at 10k miles per year (7500 if offered) in the NYC metro area. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    jdwinnyc said:

    Hello, can you provide the MF and residual for a 2016 VW Tiguan R Line 4 Motion for 36 months at 10k miles per year (7500 if offered) in the NYC metro area. Thank you!

    .00010 and 55% for 36/10. $2250 lease cash.'

    VW does not offer 7500 leases.

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  • jetpilot_mikejetpilot_mike Member Posts: 12
    Hello,
    I'm being offered the following:

    2016 Tiguan SEL with 4Motion

    MSRP - $37,685
    Discount - ($3,548)
    Trade In - ($2,750)
    Etch - $419 (It's some sort of window protection they say they put on "all their cars")
    Taxes - 2,083.64 (OHIO - 6.5%)
    Doc - $250
    Title - 33.50
    Rebates - ($1,000)
    Balance - $33,173.14

    36months/12,000 miles - 53% Residual. .00030 MF -- With $1,000 Down - $348-$358 month

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759

    Hello,
    I'm being offered the following:

    2016 Tiguan SEL with 4Motion

    MSRP - $37,685
    Discount - ($3,548)
    Trade In - ($2,750)
    Etch - $419 (It's some sort of window protection they say they put on "all their cars")
    Taxes - 2,083.64 (OHIO - 6.5%)
    Doc - $250
    Title - 33.50
    Rebates - ($1,000)
    Balance - $33,173.14

    36months/12,000 miles - 53% Residual. .00030 MF -- With $1,000 Down - $348-$358 month

    Thanks!

    MF is marked up - base MF is .00010 on the Tiguan this month.

    Using your numbers, as-is, I get $383/mo with the marked up MF, $372 with the base rate.

    I'd confirm the adjusted cap cost - I don't see an acquisition fee in your details, for example.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 246,876
    @jetpilot_mike Also, tax won't be $2000 on a lease. Ohio collects sales tax upfront on a lease, but it's only applied to the sum of payments (upfront payments + lease payments )

    Should be closer to $1000-$1200

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  • cbuser1cbuser1 Member Posts: 1
    Hi, this may be a dumb question, however is the residual factor applied to the MSRP or the capitalized cost?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 246,876
    cbuser1 said:

    Hi, this may be a dumb question, however is the residual factor applied to the MSRP or the capitalized cost?

    Thanks!

    MSRP

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  • mcil2016mcil2016 Member Posts: 9
    Hello,

    Could you please provide me with the MF & RV for 3 years 36,000 miles for

    2016 Tiguan R-line FWD
    2016 Tiguan SEL FWD

    for Aurora, IL

    Also are there any lease cash and incentive offers going on?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    mcil2016 said:

    Hello,

    Could you please provide me with the MF & RV for 3 years 36,000 miles for

    2016 Tiguan R-line FWD
    2016 Tiguan SEL FWD

    for Aurora, IL

    Also are there any lease cash and incentive offers going on?

    Thanks

    .00010 and 54% (R-Line) or 53% (SEL). $2250 lease cash for both trims.

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  • mcil2016mcil2016 Member Posts: 9
    Thank you for the information.
    I got the following numbers from true car estimate through a dealer for the R line FWD

    Base MSRP: $28700
    Freight Delivery charge: $865
    TOTAL MSRP: $29565

    Certified Dealer MSRP discount: (-$2798)
    VW safety in numbers customer bonus: (-$1000)
    Total savings on MSRP: (-$3798)

    *****Therefore final True car estimate: $25,765*****

    So my questions are

    Would the $2250 lease cash discount also be applied to $25,765 to bring it down further?
    If i want a lease with $0 down my Net cap cost should be: [($25,765 - $2250) + taxes & fees)] ?

    Is this correct?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    mcil2016 said:

    Thank you for the information.
    I got the following numbers from true car estimate through a dealer for the R line FWD

    Base MSRP: $28700
    Freight Delivery charge: $865
    TOTAL MSRP: $29565

    Certified Dealer MSRP discount: (-$2798)
    VW safety in numbers customer bonus: (-$1000)
    Total savings on MSRP: (-$3798)

    *****Therefore final True car estimate: $25,765*****

    So my questions are

    Would the $2250 lease cash discount also be applied to $25,765 to bring it down further?
    If i want a lease with $0 down my Net cap cost should be: [($25,765 - $2250) + taxes & fees)] ?

    Is this correct?

    Thanks

    Can't tell you if the TrueCar quote is for a purchase or a lease; if it's a purchase, then the lease cash won't apply.

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  • mcil2016mcil2016 Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2016
    got it. Thanks

    is there a tool on edmunds.com that i can use to generate a fair quote for a lease?
    Once i have that i can then punch in the RV, MF and lease cash numbers on it to find out if i am getting a fair deal from the dealer.

    Going to the dealer today evening and want to do all the homework so that i don't fall prey to their cons.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    mcil2016 said:

    got it. Thanks

    is there a tool on edmunds.com that i can use to generate a fair quote for a lease?
    Once i have that i can then punch in the RV, MF and lease cash numbers on it to find out if i am getting a fair deal from the dealer.

    Going to the dealer today evening and want to do all the homework so that i don't fall prey to their cons.

    Try this article ....

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html

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  • mcil2016mcil2016 Member Posts: 9
    Thank you so much.
  • mcil2016mcil2016 Member Posts: 9
    I have received this for the FWD 2016 R line.
    Please let me know if this is a good one.

    They told me they are using RV at 54% and MF at .0001

    MSRP/Retail $29,800.00
    Selling Price $28,752.00
    Rebate $3,250.00
    Government Fee $221.00
    Proc/Doc Fee $169.27
    Capitalized Taxes $1,061.00
    Acq. Fee $595.00
    Adjusted Cap Cost $27,327.27

    Total Due at Signing $537.43
    3 yr 36000 miles - $316
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 246,876
    mcil2016 said:

    I have received this for the FWD 2016 R line.
    Please let me know if this is a good one.

    They told me they are using RV at 54% and MF at .0001

    MSRP/Retail $29,800.00
    Selling Price $28,752.00
    Rebate $3,250.00
    Government Fee $221.00
    Proc/Doc Fee $169.27
    Capitalized Taxes $1,061.00
    Acq. Fee $595.00
    Adjusted Cap Cost $27,327.27

    Total Due at Signing $537.43
    3 yr 36000 miles - $316

    I agree with the variables and the calculation. Lease cash is $2250. Assuming another $1000 rebate in there, somewhere?

    Looks like a really good deal. Which state?

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  • mcil2016mcil2016 Member Posts: 9
    IL
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 246,876
    mcil2016 said:

    IL

    Looks really good. You sure you want FWD in the Midwest?

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  • eddieg321eddieg321 Member Posts: 15
    Hi looking to lease a 2016 Tiguan SE AWD for 36/36000 in NJ. Could you please help me with some info? Please provide the mf, rv, how to calculate tax, and any incentives or rebates.
    Thank You In Advance
    EG
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    eddieg321 said:

    Hi looking to lease a 2016 Tiguan SE AWD for 36/36000 in NJ. Could you please help me with some info? Please provide the mf, rv, how to calculate tax, and any incentives or rebates.
    Thank You In Advance
    EG

    MF - .00010
    36/10 RV - 56%
    Lease cash - $2000

    Tax on leases in NJ is applied against the sum of the payments and is collected up front - either you pay it at lease signing or you add it to the capitalized cost.

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  • eddieg321eddieg321 Member Posts: 15
    Thank You, so once I negotiate the price of the vehicle I can deduct the $2000 lease cash off that price? I also need the residual for 36/12. Thanks again
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    eddieg321 said:

    Thank You, so once I negotiate the price of the vehicle I can deduct the $2000 lease cash off that price? I also need the residual for 36/12. Thanks again

    Subtract 1% from 10K residual for 12K.

    Yes, that's how the lease cash ought to work. The dealer, however, is probably building the lease cash into any offer they make you.

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  • jdwinnycjdwinnyc Member Posts: 12
    Hello, can you provide the MF and residual for VW Tiguan SEL 4motion for NY metro for 36 month and 10k miles. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    jdwinnyc said:

    Hello, can you provide the MF and residual for VW Tiguan SEL 4motion for NY metro for 36 month and 10k miles. Thank you!

    .00010 and 54%. $2250 lease cash.

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  • daveyboy92daveyboy92 Member Posts: 6
    How is this deal
    2016 vw tiguan s fwd
    12k miles/36 months ZERO DOWN
    Selling Price $26,025
    Cash Sale Price $24,681
    MF: .00010
    Residual factor 58%
    $1,000 Mnfg Rebate
    $291.00 State DMV-CA
    $8.75 Tire Tax
    $625.00 Acquisition Fee
    $280.61 Monthly Payment (259.82 Base+20.79 tax)

    How does this deal sound? Any help if much appreciated
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759

    How is this deal
    2016 vw tiguan s fwd
    12k miles/36 months ZERO DOWN
    Selling Price $26,025
    Cash Sale Price $24,681
    MF: .00010
    Residual factor 58%
    $1,000 Mnfg Rebate
    $291.00 State DMV-CA
    $8.75 Tire Tax
    $625.00 Acquisition Fee
    $280.61 Monthly Payment (259.82 Base+20.79 tax)

    How does this deal sound? Any help if much appreciated

    What is the sticker price?

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  • daveyboy92daveyboy92 Member Posts: 6
    Hello,

    Sticker Price is $26,025.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759

    Hello,

    Sticker Price is $26,025.

    I get $270/mo before tax.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759

    Here is the salesman quote. How does this look? Based on tier 1 credit. Thanks

    I get the same payment, assuming the tax rate is 8%

    Only way to improve on it is to put more down (which we do not recommend - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled), or negotiate a better selling price.

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  • daveyboy92daveyboy92 Member Posts: 6
    Based on Current price advertised could I apply lease cash option? Student incentive? What could be a competitive negotiation on selling price to offer? Thanks so much!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759

    Based on Current price advertised could I apply lease cash option? Student incentive? What could be a competitive negotiation on selling price to offer? Thanks so much!

    Purchase incentives and lease incentives are not compatible. Student incentives should stack with other lease incentives.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 246,876

    Based on Current price advertised could I apply lease cash option? Student incentive? What could be a competitive negotiation on selling price to offer? Thanks so much!

    There is $1250 lease cash on that vehicle. Assuming the $1000 rebate is from a different program, you should certainly be able to negotiate a bigger discount than $1350.

    Another $600-700 lower would be reasonable. That would lower the payment by $16-$19/mo.

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  • tozihuatanejotozihuatanejo Member Posts: 3
    Hi,

    Looking for assessment on the lease I signed yesterday (April 30) and also MF and RV for 2016 Tiguan SE AWD 36/12 lease.

    MSRP: 34,770
    Sales Price after incentives: 31,770
    Trade in value: 5,000
    Sales tax: 7.375
    Monthly payment quoted by dealer and accepted: $289

    Forgot to ask MF and RV and that was my bad. I can probably find out tomorrow but I never leased before and I know its after the fact but want to check on whether what I got was at least reasonable...thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 246,876

    Hi,

    Looking for assessment on the lease I signed yesterday (April 30) and also MF and RV for 2016 Tiguan SE AWD 36/12 lease.

    MSRP: 34,770
    Sales Price after incentives: 31,770
    Trade in value: 5,000
    Sales tax: 7.375
    Monthly payment quoted by dealer and accepted: $289

    Forgot to ask MF and RV and that was my bad. I can probably find out tomorrow but I never leased before and I know its after the fact but want to check on whether what I got was at least reasonable...thanks.

    .00010 MF and 55% residual. $2000 lease cash.

    $289/mo. is $269/mo, pre-tax.

    To get to that payment, the adjusted CAP cost would have to be about $28,650.

    That is $3120 under the sale price. Leaving $1880 of your $5000 to be accounted for.

    $289 1st payment
    $625 acquisition fee
    + another $965 in charges?

    Some of that $965 might be going for tax on the CAP cost reduction from the trade. Also title/license/doc fees. Find out where your $5K has been allocated.

    There might be an extra $500 of questionable charges in there, but other than that, the deal looks good.

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  • tozihuatanejotozihuatanejo Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the assessment! Very helpful. I spoke to the sales rep and he told me that the $289 includes "everything" (e.g. tax, any fee, etc) and I don't need to pay anything when I pick up the car today, not even the 1st month payment. He did confirm .0001 MF and 55% for RV.
  • tozihuatanejotozihuatanejo Member Posts: 3
    Oh and just to clarify, he also said the $5,000 is covering down payment, taxes, fees, etc. He said he will show me all the details today. I will see how the trade-in is being applied.
  • eddieg321eddieg321 Member Posts: 15
    Hi can I please have the money factor and residual for leasing for the month of May. Looking at 36 months/12000 miles.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    eddieg321 said:

    Hi can I please have the money factor and residual for leasing for the month of May. Looking at 36 months/12000 miles.

    .00005 MF

    What trim? Residual and lease cash are different ...

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  • eddieg321eddieg321 Member Posts: 15
    I am looking at the Tiguan SE 4Motion for 36 months/12000 miles.
    Thank You
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    eddieg321 said:

    I am looking at the Tiguan SE 4Motion for 36 months/12000 miles.
    Thank You

    .00005 and 54%. $2500 lease cash.

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  • daveyboy92daveyboy92 Member Posts: 6
    Just revieved an emailed quote. Although my credit score is well over 710 I was told VW financing might not consider me an "A Tier" candidate because it is my first car. I revelved two quotes from the salesman. Please tell me if these look okay. 

     

    Structure A – 36 Month / 10k miles per year

    $22948.87 – Sale Price 

    $695 – Acquisition Fee

    $279.00 – DMV Fee

    $8.75 – State Tire Fee

    $280.61 – Drive Off’s      

    $239.41 – Monthly Base

    $19.15 – Tax

    $258.56 – Monthly Payment

    (If you want to go to 12k miles per year, add $8.00 per month)

    Rate – 0.00010

    58% Residual Factor

    $15094.50 – Residual 

     

    Structure B – 36 Month / 10k miles per year

    $22948.87 – Sale Price 

    $695 – Acquisition Fee

    $279.00 – DMV Fee

    $8.75 – State Tire Fee

    $280.61 – Drive Off’s      

    $249.07 – Monthly Base

    $19.93 – Tax

    $269.00 – Monthly Payment

    (If you want to go to 12k miles per year, add $8.00 per month)

    Rate – 0.00035

    58% Residual Factor

    $15094.50 – Residual 

     

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759

    Just revieved an emailed quote. Although my credit score is well over 710 I was told VW financing might not consider me an "A Tier" candidate because it is my first car. I revelved two quotes from the salesman. Please tell me if these look okay. 

     

    Structure A – 36 Month / 10k miles per year

    $22948.87 – Sale Price 

    $695 – Acquisition Fee

    $279.00 – DMV Fee

    $8.75 – State Tire Fee

    $280.61 – Drive Off’s      

    $239.41 – Monthly Base

    $19.15 – Tax

    $258.56 – Monthly Payment

    (If you want to go to 12k miles per year, add $8.00 per month)

    Rate – 0.00010

    58% Residual Factor

    $15094.50 – Residual 

     

    Structure B – 36 Month / 10k miles per year

    $22948.87 – Sale Price 

    $695 – Acquisition Fee

    $279.00 – DMV Fee

    $8.75 – State Tire Fee

    $280.61 – Drive Off’s      

    $249.07 – Monthly Base

    $19.93 – Tax

    $269.00 – Monthly Payment

    (If you want to go to 12k miles per year, add $8.00 per month)

    Rate – 0.00035

    58% Residual Factor

    $15094.50 – Residual 

     

    What is the net cap cost, if you aren't paying all the fees with the drive off amount?

    And, what state and tax rate is this?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 246,876
    edited May 2016
    @daveyboy92 Is B if you don't qualify for top tier rates?

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  • daveyboy92daveyboy92 Member Posts: 6
    Yes option B is considered if VW doesn't approve me as a top tier. I have well over 710 credit but first car purchase. 

    Sticker price is $26,025
  • daveyboy92daveyboy92 Member Posts: 6
    0.00035 money factor, 36 mo,$280.61 drive offs, 58% residual factor, 10k miles per year, $15,094 Residual, Total Cap Cost $23,573.87, bring monthly payment to $269.00 including tax.. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759

    0.00035 money factor, 36 mo,$280.61 drive offs, 58% residual factor, 10k miles per year, $15,094 Residual, Total Cap Cost $23,573.87, bring monthly payment to $269.00 including tax.. 

    I get the same payment with 8% tax.

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  • cocomo76cocomo76 Member Posts: 14
    May I please have the MF and residual for 2016 Tiguan se, sel and sel 4motion in Southern California? 36/12. Thank you!
  • cocomo76cocomo76 Member Posts: 14
    What does "lease cash" mean? I saw on an earlier post you said 2500 lease cash. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 247,759
    cocomo76 said:

    May I please have the MF and residual for 2016 Tiguan se, sel and sel 4motion in Southern California? 36/12. Thank you!

    .00005

    SE 54% and $2500 lease cash

    SEL 52% and $2750 lease cash
    cocomo76 said:

    What does "lease cash" mean? I saw on an earlier post you said 2500 lease cash. 

    Lease cash is a factory to dealer incentive. Dealer can choose to pass it along to the customer. Use this knowledge to negotiate your best price.

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