2016 Honda Odyssey Lease Questions

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  • jpninerjpniner Member Posts: 38
    So Residual and Money Factor goes up? I was thinking Residual could go down as it gets older.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    JPNINER said:

    So Residual and Money Factor goes up? I was thinking Residual could go down as it gets older.

    Generally, but sometimes the opposite occurs if finance and marketing agree to increase it. Might help move more inventory.

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  • ykp1234ykp1234 Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2016
    Hello. I'm new here but considering leasing a 2016 Odyssey Touring. I'm in the Charlotte, NC area (28273).

    Could anyone advise the MF and Residual for this vehicle? Any incentives (lease cash, etc) available right now? Also, dealer invoice if you have that available.

    Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    ykp1234 said:

    Hello. I'm new here but considering leasing a 2016 Odyssey Touring. I'm in the Charlotte, NC area (28273).

    Could anyone advise the MF and Residual for this vehicle? Any incentives (lease cash, etc) available right now? Also, dealer invoice if you have that available.

    Thanks in advance.

    48% and .00036 for 36 months, 15,000 miles per year. $1250 lease cash.

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  • zootsuit1zootsuit1 Member Posts: 11
    29K on an EX with zero down (except 1st mo, taxes, fees), 361/mo seems right?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    zootsuit1 said:

    29K on an EX with zero down (except 1st mo, taxes, fees), 361/mo seems right?

    What lease term? Miles per year?

    Is $29K the adjusted cap cost? What is the MSRP?

    Need more info to run the numbers.

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  • zootsuit1zootsuit1 Member Posts: 11
    Michaell said:

    zootsuit1 said:

    29K on an EX with zero down (except 1st mo, taxes, fees), 361/mo seems right?

    What lease term? Miles per year?

    Is $29K the adjusted cap cost? What is the MSRP?

    Need more info to run the numbers.
    Sorry should have specified. MSRP is 33450, adj cap is 29k. 36mo, 12k miles
  • zootsuit1zootsuit1 Member Posts: 11
    and tax here is 9.8
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    zootsuit1 said:

    Michaell said:

    zootsuit1 said:

    29K on an EX with zero down (except 1st mo, taxes, fees), 361/mo seems right?

    What lease term? Miles per year?

    Is $29K the adjusted cap cost? What is the MSRP?

    Need more info to run the numbers.
    Sorry should have specified. MSRP is 33450, adj cap is 29k. 36mo, 12k miles
    zootsuit1 said:

    and tax here is 9.8

    I get $342/mo (tax included) with those numbers.

    I would confirm the adjusted cap cost number...

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  • zootsuit1zootsuit1 Member Posts: 11
    Michaell said:

    zootsuit1 said:

    Michaell said:

    zootsuit1 said:

    29K on an EX with zero down (except 1st mo, taxes, fees), 361/mo seems right?

    What lease term? Miles per year?

    Is $29K the adjusted cap cost? What is the MSRP?

    Need more info to run the numbers.
    Sorry should have specified. MSRP is 33450, adj cap is 29k. 36mo, 12k miles
    zootsuit1 said:

    and tax here is 9.8

    I get $342/mo (tax included) with those numbers.

    I would confirm the adjusted cap cost number...
    Will do. How did you get 341? When I plug it into the edmunds calculator I get 361, wonder where they're taking the extra money from...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    zootsuit1 said:

    Michaell said:

    zootsuit1 said:

    Michaell said:

    zootsuit1 said:

    29K on an EX with zero down (except 1st mo, taxes, fees), 361/mo seems right?

    What lease term? Miles per year?

    Is $29K the adjusted cap cost? What is the MSRP?

    Need more info to run the numbers.
    Sorry should have specified. MSRP is 33450, adj cap is 29k. 36mo, 12k miles
    zootsuit1 said:

    and tax here is 9.8

    I get $342/mo (tax included) with those numbers.

    I would confirm the adjusted cap cost number...
    Will do. How did you get 341? When I plug it into the edmunds calculator I get 361, wonder where they're taking the extra money from...
    Often, on-line calculators make assumptions we don't know anything about. I have a home grown calculator; you can build your own:

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html

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  • njsavvybuyernjsavvybuyer Member Posts: 1
    I am planning to lease Odyssey SE later this month or early next month in NJ. What is the current residual % and money factor for SE for 36mo//10k? What are the same numbers for 24/10?

    Also when do the post Labor Day numbers come out? I am assuming it will be sometime this month. I can wait till the new numbers come out to see if it is worth waiting after Labor Day.

    Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604

    I am planning to lease Odyssey SE later this month or early next month in NJ. What is the current residual % and money factor for SE for 36mo//10k? What are the same numbers for 24/10?

    Also when do the post Labor Day numbers come out? I am assuming it will be sometime this month. I can wait till the new numbers come out to see if it is worth waiting after Labor Day.

    Thanks in advance.

    The current Honda programs run through 9/6, so the numbers quoted will be valid for the Labor Day weekend.

    .00036 and 62% (24/10) or 56% (36/10) - that assumes that a 10K lease term is available. For most of the country it is not, but the tri-state area (NY, NJ, CT) seems to be different. If you have to take a 12K lease term, subtract 1% from the residuals provided. $1000 lease cash on the SE.

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  • chillcutchillcut Member Posts: 5
    Could you please provide the MF and Residual for the 2016 EX-L (no Nav) and with Nav for NorCal?
    36/12
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    chillcut said:

    Could you please provide the MF and Residual for the 2016 EX-L (no Nav) and with Nav for NorCal?
    36/12

    .00036 and 55% (w/o Nav) or 53% (w/ Nav)

    $1250 lease cash

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  • hanfam1210hanfam1210 Member Posts: 11
    Would you please provide the MF and residual for a 2016 Odyssey Touring and Touring Elite in Tampa, FL? Also, are there any current lease incentives (cash, etc.) that should we be aware of when negotiating? Thanks so much! You guys rock.
  • hanfam1210hanfam1210 Member Posts: 11

    Would you please provide the MF and residual for a 2016 Odyssey Touring and Touring Elite in Tampa, FL? Also, are there any current lease incentives (cash, etc.) that should we be aware of when negotiating? Thanks so much! You guys rock.

    BTW, 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks so much.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604

    Would you please provide the MF and residual for a 2016 Odyssey Touring and Touring Elite in Tampa, FL? Also, are there any current lease incentives (cash, etc.) that should we be aware of when negotiating? Thanks so much! You guys rock.

    BTW, 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks so much.
    .00036 and 48% for 36/15 on both trims. Add 2% for 12K. $1250 lease cash.

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  • doodiedandoodiedan Member Posts: 15
    Same year/trims as the Tampa poster above, but in Fort Lauderdale area. 36/10. MF, Residuals, and lease cash.
    Thanks!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 272,512
    doodiedan said:

    Same year/trims as the Tampa poster above, but in Fort Lauderdale area. 36/10. MF, Residuals, and lease cash.
    Thanks!!

    Add 3% to go from 36/15 to 36/10.

    All else is the same.

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  • fd3s1994fd3s1994 Member Posts: 3
    Can I get the MF, residuals and any lease cash on a 2016 Touring in Phoenix, AZ, for 24M/12K and 24M/10K

    Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 272,512
    fd3s1994 said:

    Can I get the MF, residuals and any lease cash on a 2016 Touring in Phoenix, AZ, for 24M/12K and 24M/10K

    Thanks.

    .00036 MF and 56% residual for 24/12. $1250 lease cash

    36/12 residual is 50%. Hondas don't lease well at 24 months
    Also, no 10K/yr allowance for Honda.

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  • fd3s1994fd3s1994 Member Posts: 3
    Can I get the same 36/12 and 36/15 for Phoenix, AZ as well?

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    fd3s1994 said:

    Can I get the same 36/12 and 36/15 for Phoenix, AZ as well?

    Thank you.

    50% / 48%

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  • kid4lifekid4life Member Posts: 27
    I have a newbie question. I am looking at a 2016 Touring Elite with MSRP of 46925 and CAP of 41872 and was considering leasing for 36 months 12k miles per year. I have not gone to the dealership yet but I was just wondering - based on MF of .00036 and RV of 50% for 36/12k - what should be lease payments approximate?

    Thank you for your help - I appreciate it.
  • kid4lifekid4life Member Posts: 27
    Also - my state is MA where the tax is 6.75%. Based on my calculations on the edmunds calculator - the lease payments should be $571.xx ?
  • kid4lifekid4life Member Posts: 27
    and most importantly - do i need to negotiate the MF and Residuals with the dealer - sorry for all the obvious questions - but i have not bought a new car for the past 30 years.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 272,512
    kid4life said:

    I have a newbie question. I am looking at a 2016 Touring Elite with MSRP of 46925 and CAP of 41872 and was considering leasing for 36 months 12k miles per year. I have not gone to the dealership yet but I was just wondering - based on MF of .00036 and RV of 50% for 36/12k - what should be lease payments approximate?

    Thank you for your help - I appreciate it.

    $535/mo.+tax

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 272,512
    kid4life said:

    and most importantly - do i need to negotiate the MF and Residuals with the dealer - sorry for all the obvious questions - but i have not bought a new car for the past 30 years.

    Residuals are fixed. We haven't seen many examples of Honda dealers marking up the money factor (not even sure they are allowed).

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  • scoelenscoelen Member Posts: 2
    Hi could I get the Sept lease numbers for SoCal.
    EX-L RES 36/15K lease
    Residual, MF for 1st & Fees and Sign and drive, and One Pay.
    Also is there still the $1250 lease bonus.
    Hoping end of QTR will produce some good deals.

    thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    scoelen said:

    Hi could I get the Sept lease numbers for SoCal.
    EX-L RES 36/15K lease
    Residual, MF for 1st & Fees and Sign and drive, and One Pay.
    Also is there still the $1250 lease bonus.
    Hoping end of QTR will produce some good deals.

    thank you.

    .00001 one pay
    .00052 all others
    $1250 lease bonus
    51% residual

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  • odymom1odymom1 Member Posts: 14
    Are these numbers worse than last month or am I missing something? I've been keeping an eye on the EXL w/res numbers for 3yr/15k and I thought the numbers would be better!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    odymom1 said:

    Are these numbers worse than last month or am I missing something? I've been keeping an eye on the EXL w/res numbers for 3yr/15k and I thought the numbers would be better!

    Residual is the same as last month, but the MF is slightly worse.

    No rhyme or reason why this happens; perhaps Honda thinks the sales of the Odyssey are going well enough to merit a slight bump in the MF.

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  • alfstinky1alfstinky1 Member Posts: 92
    Hello, please post the MF and RES for the EX and EXL no res 36/12 for NJ. Also does the 1250 lease bonus apply to NJ also? Thank you!!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604

    Hello, please post the MF and RES for the EX and EXL no res 36/12 for NJ. Also does the 1250 lease bonus apply to NJ also? Thank you!!

    .00052 MF and 55% for both trims.

    Yes, $1250 is a national incentive.

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  • scoelenscoelen Member Posts: 2
    Didnt know until I got to dealership, new car Vin stamp door manufactured 12/2015.
    Should this affect the overall price of car so far agreed at for 31,935? would this affect resale value of vehicle as a 2015 instead of 2016 after lease by a whole lot? 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 272,512
    scoelen said:

    Didnt know until I got to dealership, new car Vin stamp door manufactured 12/2015.
    Should this affect the overall price of car so far agreed at for 31,935? would this affect resale value of vehicle as a 2015 instead of 2016 after lease by a whole lot? 

    Plenty of 2016 models are manufactured in December 2015 (and earlier)

    Plus, if you are leasing, why do you care?

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  • tywebb1973tywebb1973 Member Posts: 115
    Sept numbers NJ for EX-L and Touring? 3 years, 12K per year.
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    Sept numbers NJ for EX-L and Touring? 3 years, 12K per year.

    .00052 and 55% EXL or 50% Touring. $1250 lease cash.

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  • dbgncsu05dbgncsu05 Member Posts: 2
    Could you please provide the numbers for EX-L w/ RES 3yr/36k in NC?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 272,512
    dbgncsu05 said:

    Could you please provide the numbers for EX-L w/ RES 3yr/36k in NC?

    .00052 MF and 53% residual. $1250 lease cash

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  • odymom1odymom1 Member Posts: 14
    Question about using an out of state dealer, how are the taxes handled if we lease the car out of our home state??  Just wondering if this would be an option since we may be able to get a better deal that way. Thanks!
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    odymom1 said:

    Question about using an out of state dealer, how are the taxes handled if we lease the car out of our home state??  Just wondering if this would be an option since we may be able to get a better deal that way. Thanks!

    Depends on the states - some states collect the sales tax up front as the sum of payments; other states tax the payment monthly.

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  • odymom1odymom1 Member Posts: 14
    Michaell said:
    Question about using an out of state dealer, how are the taxes handled if we lease the car out of our home state??  Just wondering if this would be an option since we may be able to get a better deal that way. Thanks!
    Depends on the states - some states collect the sales tax up front as the sum of payments; other states tax the payment monthly.
    Thanks Michaell.  I believe we pay the tax monthly in Indiana.  Would that make it more complicated?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    odymom1 said:



    Michaell said:

    odymom1 said:

    Question about using an out of state dealer, how are the taxes handled if we lease the car out of our home state??  Just wondering if this would be an option since we may be able to get a better deal that way. Thanks!

    Depends on the states - some states collect the sales tax up front as the sum of payments; other states tax the payment monthly.

    Thanks Michaell.  I believe we pay the tax monthly in Indiana.  Would that make it more complicated?
    Compared to what state?

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  • odymom1odymom1 Member Posts: 14
    Michaell said:

    odymom1 said:



    Michaell said:

    odymom1 said:

    Question about using an out of state dealer, how are the taxes handled if we lease the car out of our home state??  Just wondering if this would be an option since we may be able to get a better deal that way. Thanks!

    Depends on the states - some states collect the sales tax up front as the sum of payments; other states tax the payment monthly.

    Thanks Michaell.  I believe we pay the tax monthly in Indiana.  Would that make it more complicated?
    Compared to what state?

    Probably Missouri or Illinois. I think we will expand our search to those areas if needed. Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 272,512
    odymom1 said:

    Michaell said:

    odymom1 said:



    Michaell said:

    odymom1 said:

    Question about using an out of state dealer, how are the taxes handled if we lease the car out of our home state??  Just wondering if this would be an option since we may be able to get a better deal that way. Thanks!

    Depends on the states - some states collect the sales tax up front as the sum of payments; other states tax the payment monthly.

    Thanks Michaell.  I believe we pay the tax monthly in Indiana.  Would that make it more complicated?
    Compared to what state?

    Probably Missouri or Illinois. I think we will expand our search to those areas if needed. Thanks.


    The leases all go through Honda Finance. They know the sales tax rules for each state. You'll pay Indiana sales tax on the lease. There are dozens of Honda dealers in Indiana. Surely, you can get whatever deal you need in-state?

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  • odymom1odymom1 Member Posts: 14
    kyfdx said:

    odymom1 said:

    Michaell said:

    odymom1 said:



    Michaell said:

    odymom1 said:

    Question about using an out of state dealer, how are the taxes handled if we lease the car out of our home state??  Just wondering if this would be an option since we may be able to get a better deal that way. Thanks!

    Depends on the states - some states collect the sales tax up front as the sum of payments; other states tax the payment monthly.

    Thanks Michaell.  I believe we pay the tax monthly in Indiana.  Would that make it more complicated?
    Compared to what state?
    Probably Missouri or Illinois. I think we will expand our search to those areas if needed. Thanks.


    The leases all go through Honda Finance. They know the sales tax rules for each state. You'll pay Indiana sales tax on the lease. There are dozens of Honda dealers in Indiana. Surely, you can get whatever deal you need in-state?

    Thanks Kyfdx. We are going to focus on Indiana. Our inventory is quite low here so we may not get the deal we are hoping for which is why I thought a short road trip might be worthwhile. It seems the inventory in the other areas isn't any better so we are scraping that idea. We aren't in a hurry, so we will just have to take our time and keep working!
  • odymom1odymom1 Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2016
    Can you confirm the numbers for EXL w/Res 15k/36 months are still the same as below? Is the .00052 money factor the same for both sign/drive and 1st month?

    .00001 one pay
    .00052 all others
    $1250 lease bonus
    51% residual
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 268,604
    odymom1 said:

    Can you confirm the numbers for EXL w/Res 15k/36 months are still the same as below? Is the .00052 money factor the same for both sign/drive and 1st month?

    .00001 one pay
    .00052 all others
    $1250 lease bonus
    51% residual

    Those numbers are all correct.

    No sign and drive program available, this month.

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