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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,159
    More BMW number magic - the '30i' is for the turbo 4 2.0 liter engine, replacing the '28i' designation. This to combat MB's C300 with a similar engine.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,470
    What do BMW's "28" and "30" designations signify?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,800
    it is all so awful. I pine for the days when their numbers made sense.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,159
    ab348 said:

    What do BMW's "28" and "30" designations signify?

    For example, last year's 228i is this year's 230i, both with the same 2.0 liter turbo 4. It's a change for marketing reasons.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,800
    ab348 said:

    What do BMW's "28" and "30" designations signify?

    They USED to signify the displacement of the engine under the hood. A 325i has a 2.5 liter engine, etc.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,159
    edited September 2016
    But even in the pre-turbo era BMW played number games. At one point the '325i' had a 2.8 '323i' had a 2.5 l NA 6 engine, but they wanted to separate it from the '330i'.

    edited- @qbrozen has it right, it was the 2.5l engine. And yes, this was minor, compared to the turbo-induced major number games now being played by BMW and MB.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,800
    But I don't believe that really started until the e90 era. The one exception I recall was the e46 323 with the 2.5. And I think some of the 318 models were a bit scattered.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,183
    texases said:

    ab348 said:

    What do BMW's "28" and "30" designations signify?

    For example, last year's 228i is this year's 230i, both with the same 2.0 liter turbo 4. It's a change for marketing reasons.
    More horsepower, this year, I think. 248 vs. 240

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I spied someone loading some gear into a new BMW X6.

    Not to my tastes.

    To each his own of course.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,955
    A sliver Chevy RWD police car. It was unmarked, but silver like the state police have here in CT.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,814
    I can top that. Today in Philly (on the Ben Franklin bridge) a Smart car police car. weirdest thing I ever saw.

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  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    fintail said:

    Saw a new Volvo S90 on the road today. It wasn't far from the dealer, not sure if there's a connection. Also a no-grille Tesla.

    We sold our S90 a month or so ago. We have three in stock right now all inscription T6 AWD models on is a Demo.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,800
    Whoa!! It's BR, everybody!!

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  • fushigifushigi Member Posts: 1,459
    stickguy said:

    I can top that. Today in Philly (on the Ben Franklin bridge) a Smart car police car. weirdest thing I ever saw.

    Probably used by the meter maids, er, traffic enforcement division.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    fushigi said:

    stickguy said:

    I can top that. Today in Philly (on the Ben Franklin bridge) a Smart car police car. weirdest thing I ever saw.

    Probably used by the meter maids, er, traffic enforcement division.
    "You are under arrest. For your safety and mine, I'm going to strap you to the roof".
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Hey long time no see.

    Any Chinese-built LWB models yet, aka nobody asked the question (on this continent) but Volvo answered?

    british_rover said:



    We sold our S90 a month or so ago. We have three in stock right now all inscription T6 AWD models on is a Demo.

  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    fintail said:

    Hey long time no see.

    Any Chinese-built LWB models yet, aka nobody asked the question (on this continent) but Volvo answered?



    british_rover said:



    We sold our S90 a month or so ago. We have three in stock right now all inscription T6 AWD models on is a Demo.

    We have sold several S60 Inscription models and if you want the highest level of equipment than you have to get an inscription.

    You cannot get a platinum trim regular S60 anymore as of 2016 model year.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Is that's the Chinese built LWB, Inscription?

    I have yet to see one, the only odd duck LWB I have seen is an Infiniti.
    british_rover said:


    We have sold several S60 Inscription models and if you want the highest level of equipment than you have to get an inscription.

    You cannot get a platinum trim regular S60 anymore as of 2016 model year.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Today I saw a Model X with a trailer hitch and a front plate. Talk about a unicorn.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,470
    A new-looking Audi A7 3.0T parked outside a medical clinic - probably the doc's car. Dark blue. Man, they are a good-looking machine.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,814
    2017 Golf Wolfsburg. VW simplified the models this year on the Golf, and the WB has a ton of nice features now standard, for a pretty good price. Almost like taking an SEL, adding some safety stuff, and chopping $4k off the price.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,210
    ab348 said:

    A new-looking Audi A7 3.0T parked outside a medical clinic - probably the doc's car. Dark blue. Man, they are a good-looking machine.

    My primary care physician was thinking about getting one of these.

    Ended up with an A6 with the TDI.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,470
    Michaell said:

    ab348 said:

    A new-looking Audi A7 3.0T parked outside a medical clinic - probably the doc's car. Dark blue. Man, they are a good-looking machine.

    My primary care physician was thinking about getting one of these.

    Ended up with an A6 with the TDI.
    Poor devil. ;)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Oddball today - BMW X5 xDrive40e - with a typical cringeworthy driving performance as one expects from such a car in downtown Bellevue.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,210
    fintail said:

    Oddball today - BMW X5 xDrive40e - with a typical cringeworthy driving performance as one expects from such a car in downtown Bellevue.

    I suspect you'll be seeing more of them - lots of dealer cash and good lease deals on them.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    It is an odd duck...a real porker and only 14 miles range on electric. Probably performs well, though.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,814
    I drove a hyrbid X5 at the drive event a few weeks ago. was pretty quick with just the 2.0t 4. But definitely a barge.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    2016 Toyota Tacoma, pretty blue, special order with a six foot bed. Belongs to company who flew to Dallas to pick it up - it's going to supplement her 1990 Mazda B2600 with 240,000 miles on it. The salesperson quit so the order got cancelled back in the Spring and then the dealership got sold over the summer and when she finally tracked them down for a status report, the truck had just come in. Luckily they hadn't sold it out from under her. No hurry to buy it, it's not like the Mazda was ever going to die. She drove it up to Alaska and back this summer. :)

    She didn't have a good reason to buy it in Dallas other than the fact that she wanted to visit friends there and then drive home to Arizona via our place and catch up with us.

    Didn't order any extras other than a towing package, but she's amazed by the intermittent wipers, the backup cam and especially loves the cruise control.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Saw a new grille-less Tesla S today, wearing a front plate! Not a common sight here. Of course, it was making a right turn from a straight only lane, because Bellevue.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Saw a brand new unplated white fairly basic looking Corolla today - going straight through a turn only lane. Nearly directly in front of the police station. Welcome to Bellevue.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,210
    fintail said:

    Saw a brand new unplated white fairly basic looking Corolla today - going straight through a turn only lane. Nearly directly in front of the police station. Welcome to Bellevue.

    As a host, I should know this - but, where did the "Inconsiderate Drivers" thread go to?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    I wish I could explain it. It stopped rising to the top of the list when receiving a new post, and quickly vanished.
    Michaell said:



    As a host, I should know this - but, where did the "Inconsiderate Drivers" thread go to?

  • fushigifushigi Member Posts: 1,459
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/2746/general/x/inconsiderate-drivers-share-your-stories-etc#latest
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,470
    fintail said:

    Saw a brand new unplated white fairly basic looking Corolla today - going straight through a turn only lane. Nearly directly in front of the police station. Welcome to Bellevue.

    A couple of Sundays ago when I was driving home at night from the boonies I was on a 2-lane road with a speed limit that varied from 40 to 50mph. For about 15 minutes I was stuck behind a Corolla that never exceeded 35mph, and most of the time stayed at 30. There is something about Corollas that attracts that kind of driver it seems.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Around here, they are popular with some drivers, and I won't say more. Also seem to have more bumper scuffs and sometimes Camry dents which might not paint a good picture of the demographic.

    It's a thing

    ab348 said:


    A couple of Sundays ago when I was driving home at night from the boonies I was on a 2-lane road with a speed limit that varied from 40 to 50mph. For about 15 minutes I was stuck behind a Corolla that never exceeded 35mph, and most of the time stayed at 30. There is something about Corollas that attracts that kind of driver it seems.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    There it is, Doesn't seem to rise to the top when receiving a new post. I wonder if it offended some inconsiderate drivers :)
    fushigi said:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/2746/general/x/inconsiderate-drivers-share-your-stories-etc#latest

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,814
    I love the Camry dent site

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,210
    fintail said:

    Saw a brand new unplated white fairly basic looking Corolla today - going straight through a turn only lane. Nearly directly in front of the police station. Welcome to Bellevue.

    As a host, I should know this - but, where did the "Inconsiderate Drivers" thread go to?
    fintail said:

    There it is, Doesn't seem to rise to the top when receiving a new post. I wonder if it offended some inconsiderate drivers :)


    fushigi said:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/2746/general/x/inconsiderate-drivers-share-your-stories-etc#latest

    Yes, that's it. I can understand why we wouldn't want to promote this discussion...

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Don't want to trigger the special snowflakes and send them running to their safe spaces B)
    Michaell said:


    Yes, that's it. I can understand why we wouldn't want to promote this discussion...

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Not a new model, but the Safeway nearest to me has a new Ghibli parked in the foyer area for some kind of promotion. Welcome to Bellevue.

    I also noticed construction on a combination REI/Trader Joes/Home Goods has just completed near me. No doubt I will be able to see all the latest models of Subaru and Prius there, along with the latest trends in beards and popular dogs B)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Probably a coupon promotion. Accumulate 10 billion stamps, something like that. B)
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,812
    The new Infiniti Q60 coupe. Dark metallic blue. Looks pretty nice, maybe a little heavy on the chrome on the one I saw, at least.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,955
    A new GMC Acadia. Very similar size to an Explorer.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,470
    I looked at a new Acadia on a dealer lot. Size is much more realistic, no longer such a tank. I liked that about it and the overall exterior look, but was very disappointed by the dashboard design and controls though. The dash design is just kind of clunky looking, and the steering wheel buttons are covered with a rubbery membrane and so are not distinct buttons on the surface. You just know that over time that membrane will crack/tear.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,470
    Anecdotal observation: I am seeing a lot of new Civic sedans on the roads up here so it is obviously selling very well. But it seems that maybe 80% of them that I see are painted black. In fact today I was behind a blue one and that struck me as maybe the first I had seen in that color. Seeing all the disjointed angles on that rear end, maybe that is why black is popular because it makes them less obvious.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    Judging by turn signal use on even newer models, I am not sure Range Rover has detached itself from BMW. If only there was an inconsiderate driver's thread ;)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,814
    was out shopping earlier, and a white Ridgeline drove past the store. I like the way it looks.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,728
    fintail said:

    ... If only there was an inconsiderate driver's thread ;)

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5257871/#Comment_5257871

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,647
    edited October 2016
    The nannies have apparently made a secret decision that the old thread was offensive to sensitive inconsiderate drivers, and made it inactive - new posts don't update it.

    For new cars, saw a new Volt this morning - I see them now and then.

    A friend said he looked at a new Continental yesterday - claims the sticker was almost 90K.
    imidazol97 said:



    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5257871/#Comment_5257871

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Could be the depreciation opportunity of a lifetime B)
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