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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I've seen more than a few of those driving around also.

    Subaru needs to find more plant capacity because demand for the Impreza outstrips supply. The model actually passed the Forester to be their #2 seller so far this year (of course a new Forester is coming soon).

    They should start building one or both of those here. They are expanding SIA now.
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    Does Subaru still make the Outback?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's still their best seller, #2 is the Impreza and #3 the Forester.

    Forester used to outsell the Impreza by 3 to 1! Sales really took off with the current generation, I guess there was pent-up demand for a truly fuel efficient AWD car.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,172
    I need a little help figuring out what it was I saw today (Happy Thanksgiving to all by the way).

    I was headed into work this after noon and had a model for Honda I've never seen before cross in front of me at a light. It looked like an Oddy and Fit is shape but a little smaller than the CRV. I looked online and the only thing I can find that came close was the FR-V (which is no longer made). I tried to catch a glimp of the back but only saw blue / white plates and no nametags. I know it was a new model because it still had window tags and white plastic wrap on it.

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,204
    edited November 2012
    A new Lexus (LS460?) went by me and I was struck by how good it looked. No more imitation Mercedes, it had it's own clean, strong look which is odd because the big Mercs look very Asian these days. I wonder if they make the big Lex in any color but silver? ;)

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    I too saw a new LS today, with the Exner grille. I don't think it is a new car, just a much needed facelift. Gives it more presence, I guess.

    Also a new Escape.
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,562
    What surprises me is how similar the different Lexus models look now. They used to be much more distinctive from each other.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 23,569
    the side view is OK, but man, that face is butt ugly.

    Lexus may regret trying to go away from their core values and audience.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,204
    What surprises me is how similar the different Lexus models look now. They used to be much more distinctive from each other.

    I noticed that yesterday at the AZ Auto Show. I couldn't tell an ES from a GS.

    Some other impressions from the AZAS:

    -The new Mercedes SL looks much better than in photos, seems to have gotten a little smaller (no it wasn't an SLK).

    -There were too many white cars on exhibit. It's true that white is a favored color in sun-blasted Arizona but if you were going to live here year-round you sure wouldn't want a black interior which most of them had! All the BMWs shown were white despite the fact that half the Bimmers in metro Phoenix (mine included) are black.

    -The new Audi S7 and A4 Allroad are really nice, especially with orange-brown leather.

    -The Caddy ATS looks nice inside and out. The XTS is too big but nicely styled. I particularly like the way they extended the tailights to create faux fins.

    -The Ford Mondeo Fusion got bigger. I'm not sure why they need the Taurus, the Fusion looks just as big inside.

    -I didn't care for the styling of the C-Max at all, looks kinda blimpy IMO.

    -The Mustang felt really big when I sat in one.

    -OTOH the new Porsche Boxster (981) fit me like a glove, nicely compact but with plenty of cockpit space but the steering wheel rim was too thick.
    The Boxster was noticeably nicer looking than the 911 'vert it was parked next to.

    -I was hoping Jag would show the new F-Type but there was no sign of it. :cry:

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Could be a JDM Ody van, I've seen one with diplomatic plates around me. They're smaller than our Ody, better looking too.

    Having said that, smaller than a CR-V? I think you must've seen the FR-V as you expected. Here's the older, boxy one: 127_2_p.html

    Was that it?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I've been seeing a lot of GSs, probably a dozen this week.

    I'm sure the family resemblance is intentional, but for me, I would have made the IS and GS look sporty, and kept the LS and ES more conservative.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Next door neighbor has the 3rd generation model, then got a 2nd gen model for his daughter. Then a friend just got a new LX (replaced a Tribute), and another friend just picked one up on Sunday (replaced an Odyssey).
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    Champagne-colored 2013 Chevrolet Malibu on PA Turnpike.
    Black Dodge Charger on Tabor Avenue near Levick in NE Philly.
    Black Chevrolet Volt on Bingham Street near Unruh in NE Philly.
    Light blue Toyota Camry on Bingham street near Hellerman in NE Philly.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    Caddy dealer has about 20 XTS right now. Saw a white Dart on the Dodge lot. Nothing else of interest.

    Local motorcycle cops appear to have new rides - I know they had BMWs (perfect for Bellevue, surprised the city doesn't have a fleet of 5er cop cars) once, now appear to be Yamaha, big maybe FJR1300 or something.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    How can you not notice a broken down car that delayed me for about an hour near Chain Bridge?

    Worse, he broke down on the bridge, but they moved it to the DC side, causing a huge backup. :sick:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    Not new cars, but saw two MB sedans with matte black paint this morning. Looks terrible when dirty - as if the [non-permissible content removed] effect of a matte black 5 year old S-class isn't enough.

    Saw yet another Infiniti Minivan - must have sold 20K of them within 10 miles of me alone.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    More than the R-class?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    Compared to the Infiniti? R seems to be a relatively rare bird anywhere - not many people bought into the idea of what looked like a Pacifica for twice the price.

    Or for the douchey set, na, it's almost an invisible car, way too subtle for that group, even in AMG trim.

    I have a crazy R-Class idea - I wonder if it is long enough, with rear seats removed, to fit a bike. As I have the motorcycle itch, I have considered ways to haul a bike, as I can't exactly fit it in either of my cars, even with the fintail's spacious trunk. But a diesel R, with some kind of ramp or pulling system, would be a pretty unique toy hauler. Low enough to not be cumbersome, rare, boring enough to not attract attention.

    On the new car front, saw another Exner (I think that's what I will name them) GS on the road, initial sales anyway should be quite healthy.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    GS is at 4 times the rate of the old one, roughly.

    More importantly it shows up on the charts.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    I would expect even more than 4x. Who actually bought a 2012 GS, and what was wrong with them?

    The Germans need competition, that segment can become beige very quickly, as the new 5er has shown.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm just happy to see a Lexus selling that isn't the RX or ES.

    They're doing a motorsport model of the LS.

    What's gotten in to them lately? :D
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,562
    I can't imagine a bike short enough to fit in an R, upright, at least...
  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    So the motorsport model can now compare with the base models of the competition. Sadly, that base iso-tank LS has a following.

    I think Toyota finally got tired of the motoring world (validly) complaining about their boring products. Profits are good, but image is nice too.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    Hmm didn't think of that, maybe I remember it looking taller than it is (been ages since I have noticed one on the road).

    The idea of some non-pickup low step up hauler for a bike, that isn't a trailer, has some appeal.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    Not bad, even has the right wheels. Just needs a rear cover to keep the bike dry.

    Hmm...maybe an R-class interior could be hollowed out to give more height. This daydream is becoming expensive.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 23,569
    tad on the short side I would think.

    If you really wanted something, an actual viable option is a Transit Connect. No, not quite up to your normal standards for a DD, but it least it can actually haul the bike!

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • fintailfintail Posts: 40,331
    Hmm, that might work. Wonder when we'll ever get it in a diesel...although I guess the new age gas engines aren't too bad.

    Would solve storage issues too, to keep the bike in a vehicle, as my building has a mere one spot per unit, and I've already cringed at parking the bike against the wall and crowding the car in front of it.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 57,778
    Do the seats fold down in an R-Class?

    If so, I bet a bike would fit...


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