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  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    That link you posted over in the Lincoln Motor discussion mentioned that Acuras were noisy. I thought that issue was just with the Hondas. Guess some people think all their vehicles have too much cabin noise?
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    The previous TL was a nice looking car too. New one - weird, and they can get expensive.

    Hmm I was under the impression TSX wagon was V6 only, I see it isn't. The 4 actually has more appeal somehow, maybe out of fear of V6 transmission issues in older Honda models.

    I think the RL will need to be more eye catching to make the segment take notice. The tech is nice, but if it doesn't look like a step up from a TL...hard sell. I wouldn't bank on that home run.

    Like you say, Acura isn't seen as a make, because too often it isn't - too many models are fancy Hondas. I am not sure if the brand even exists outside of NA and China yet.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hmm, not me. I don't think I even follow that thread.

    I have noticed Hondas have a bit more road noise, the last rental Accord was like that. The brand new one supposedly fixes that, dunno.

    I think mostly it's because Honda/Acura are compared to Toyota/Lexus and the latter are the masters of NVH control.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Poor Infiniti, though, they've invested more in unique platforms and done most of the right things, yet they do less volume than Acura.
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  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Oops, it was Gregg_vw. :blush:

    gregg_vw, "Where Is Ford taking the Lincoln Motor Company?" #3857, 5 Dec 2012 8:11 am
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    One behind the other, this AM.

    Boy, the XTS looks loooo-ong. I like it, though.

    What I noticed about the GS is how big the greenhouse is.

    Nice to see windows making a comeback after a dark period of that "chopped" look.

    You can actually see out of cars again now.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    No prob, sounds like something I could have said. :shades:
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    Infiniti is also offered (I hesitate to say "sold") as a brand in more locations, which adds cred to me anyway.

    Biggest issue with that brand to my eyes is styling, and I don't like the V6 exhaust drone.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Drone isn't bad inside. Does sound raspy from the curb, though.

    Let's keep in mind the M5 pipes in fake engine sounds, and this is common practice.

    Even the Miata got it in 2009 (that and styling had me rushing to buy a 2008).

    What have we come to when engine sound tracks are all lip-synched? :cry:
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    A good fake sound or a bad real sound. Tough choice.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Both bad choices. Please, don't even make me pick. :cry:

    A 3rd bad choice - no sound (certain Lexus hybrids).

    We need balance in this thread so every one please watch this Hennessey Venom GT video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=turV3v9RYeU

    The drive-by at 0:23 might give you goose bumps.

    I don't represent the public, either, especially since I consider my ND Miata "too refined". :D
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Rz0UX4mzm44

    But I still want an F-Type instead.
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  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,277
    New JGC SRT-8, what a great looking rig...
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,786
    Toyota iQ - very roller skate looking
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Parallel parked outside.

    Then saw probably the first 500L I've seen in the flesh. Why didn't they just call it the 600?
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  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    ...my first Dodge Dart in "the wild." This was a black one somebody at work bought.
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  • iwant12iwant12 Posts: 269
    Finally spotted a new Fusion this week. It was white and looked really sharp, front, back, sides, really a great looking car. Too bad about the recalls, though.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I didn't get the memo, but apparently it's 5 series day, as I saw 3 new ones.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    Some end of year lease blowouts maybe - I've seen commercials for under $500
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think BMW and M-B are battling to win the sales crown.

    They really shouldn't give cars away like that. Luxury should be exclusive.

    So many pretenders in my zip code live paycheck to paycheck and go for those cheap leases, it's sad. No wonder there were so many foreclosures.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    I think I have seen C-class for something like $269 or 289 now - but albeit that's with something like 4K down, and it isn't exactly a loaded car.

    There's so much brand equity, they can get away with the downward movement, at least for awhile. I've also seen some cheap Infiniti lease commercials (aging G) and Lexus seems to have lowered prices a little too.
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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,862
    mbusa.com is showing C250 for $349 with $4143 at signing for 30 months.
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  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    Yeah, and the mileage allowances are ridiculously low.

    "Hey, what are you doing at the bus stop? Why aren't you driving the new 3-Series you just leased to the office?"

    "Uh, I used-up all my mileage for the year and it's only February."
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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,922
    From my looking lately I am now on the email list from the local BMW dealer.

    Just got one yesterday with their come on ads. 328xi for $349/39 with $3,500 down. And a 5 series for $449 (I think the same term).

    so doing my quick and dirty conversion, roughly $450 + tax and nothing but DMV stuff out the door, and you can be styling in a new BMW.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,922
    Mileage on those is usually 10K/year. For some of us, that is still enough!

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    Local special was ~4K, 24 months, low mileage, something around 269-289. But the local dealer sometimes does have sweetheart deals - over the summer had an E350 with similar down and terms for 489 - not even an end of year deal.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    I could deal with that. I don't put that on both my cars combined. Any eventual next car for me might be something like that, if I suspect the deal is good enough.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,639
    Similar terms here were on a 535i for 489, I think. Not a bad deal. You're probably just barely covering depreciation.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 63,207
    BMW 5-series has a special 24-month lease... Cheap, considering the short term...

    Can't agree with it being sad that you can lease a BMW or Mercedes cheap... That's the only way I can drive one.. Screw "brand image"... they are cars..

    And, I've got stellar credit, thank you! ;)

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,786
    a new Interceptor Utility.
    and a brief conversation while I was waiting for my wife to finish her goodbye's.
    I was stopped in the road at the and of a driveway, with my right turn signal on.
    The funny thing was the cop was from my town, but I was in the next town over.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
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