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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    Personally, I think the whole dealership thing needs to be re-evaluated by the manufacturer's. They often more alienate, then inspire buyers. The manufacturers may be better off with small showrooms in retail areas where people can test drive a vehicle and order one directly. The trade in function can really be handled by the Carmax's of the world these days. Manufacturer's can also set up warranty contracts with repair shops they certify. It just doesn't seem essential in today's market to have large, costly dealerships and their often offensive F&I people.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 2,162
    fintail said:

    Paranoid people will pay good money for the false pretense of "safety". Probably big with new hoverparents too.

    It's worse than that. A potentially costly innovation with dubious value? California will have a law mandating it within a year.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,561
    Saw another Uterus today, or probably the same one, garish in white with black wheels and yellow calipers. Makes a AMG G look tasteful.

    I could see idiot safety nannies mandating the blinking CHMSL.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,656
    There's a Urus in the showroom of my Jag dealer. Now, what was traded for a Urus??? Maybe it's the owner's, looking to flip.

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,561
    Got behind an RX with a blinking CHMSL today, and not a minute later then got behind a Corolla with a blinking CHMSL. Most aggravating new feature I can recall, loathsome to the core.
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,534
    I haven’t seen many blinking CHMSL here, but I’m sure we will. I haven’t looked at the dimensions but it looks like the new Corolla is bigger, like the current Civic.

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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    Something tells me that dealer add on blinker will be a problem down the road, especially in damp climates.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,561
    Makes me want to get a hammer out and have fun.

    New Corolla is an every day sight here now. Inoffensive, invisible, just what the demographic wants. Not as "bold" as other Toyolex design monstrosities.
  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    I don't know if Toyota is going to continue to get top dollar much longer. HyunKia is putting out very nice new stuff with a lot more value for the buck and Toyota, as well as Honda, don't have that prior big lead in quality and reliability anymore as others are closing the gap. I recently looked at a new Kia Telluride and it seems to really spank the Highlander and Pilot, both as a vehicle and as a value proposition.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,234
    I have never seen a blinking 3rd brake light.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 161,660
    stickguy said:

    I have never seen a blinking 3rd brake light.

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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    I've mostly seen them out west
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,609
    Are the blinking high-mounted brake lights an actual full assembly or just a different bulb that replaces the OE one?

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 161,660
    ab348 said:

    Are the blinking high-mounted brake lights an actual full assembly or just a different bulb that replaces the OE one?

    I honestly don't know what it is. Probably a kit of some sort

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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    They are some kind of circuit thing that dealers use as another dealer pack to jack up list price. Claim the fast blinking light prevents accidents, but don't really see any validation of that.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,899
    Not sure how effective the blinking brake lights are, kind of remind me of those randomly flashing trailer lights you see behind a semi, at times.
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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    I wonder if some who aren't used to them just stare at them and end up rear ending the car???
  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,561
    They make me think of someone brake checking,
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,609
    Saw a new-style E450 wagon in traffic locally, Selenite Gray outside, black inside. Impressive-looking vehicle though the paint color didn't do much for me. Seriously expensive here, probably well north of $80K in worthless Canadian dollars.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,899
    How about a chrome wrapped Model X? Yes, they do exist.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,561
    You can load em up well past $90K in overvalued greenbacks. Funny, with exchange rate shenanigans and different option groupings, such cars spec for spec are often a bit cheaper north of the border.
    ab348 said:

    Saw a new-style E450 wagon in traffic locally, Selenite Gray outside, black inside. Impressive-looking vehicle though the paint color didn't do much for me. Seriously expensive here, probably well north of $80K in worthless Canadian dollars.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,609
    berri said:

    They are some kind of circuit thing that dealers use as another dealer pack to jack up list price. Claim the fast blinking light prevents accidents, but don't really see any validation of that.

    I think something like this would be far more effective and pleasant to look at.


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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,234
    JC Whitney catalog?

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,609
    Not sure, but since it offers only "acrylon-like fur" and not REAL acrylon I would guess so. :p

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,899
    The idea behind the CHMSL? :)
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 5,284
    Yesterday I saw a new Cadillac XT4 on the road, which I thought was a good looking car.
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  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownPosts: 1,150
    Saw a Maserati Levante yesterday. Not sure why Maseratis are so popular in pickup obsessed North Texas.
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,946
    New Supra in white. Wife was like, that’s a Toyota?

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,561
    BMYota or ToyMW.
  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    Now Fin, your first new Supra name would seem to convey the Supra is a POS , at least in medical terms B)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 167,259
    edited September 2019
    I’d buy one of these.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,234
    Looks look Eva slightly squished Volvo C30. I like it. New scirocco?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 167,259
    Yup

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 24,996
    fintail said:

    Got behind an RX with a blinking CHMSL today, and not a minute later then got behind a Corolla with a blinking CHMSL. Most aggravating new feature I can recall, loathsome to the core.

    I've seen a few of those that blink 3 times and then switch to steady burn. I assumed they were manufacturer OEM on certain models.

    The first car that I saw that did something similar was a Mercedes maybe 15 years ago. The taillights blinked once brighter than normal as the brake pedal was depressed. This is long ago, but it seemed I read something about that occurred if the brake was hit harder than average as in an emergency stop mode.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,656
    kyfdx said:

    Yup

    My first love, I mean, car. Ok, same thing!

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • texasestexases Posts: 9,330
    edited September 2019

    kyfdx said:

    Yup

    My first love, I mean, car. Ok, same thing!
    Same here, mine was a '79, black like this, stripe included:

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,534
    I always liked those, and they even had a plaid interior like the later GTI. I’ve owned multiple VWs from 79-06. I had a good relationship with a VW salesman that I bought or referred to many times. When ever a new model would be introduced he would call or send me a note to come drive it. When the Corrado was introduced and had the supercharged engine I was excited to drive it. It was coarse and not very satisfying to drive and was expecting much more. What a difference the VR6 made!

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,656
    My '78 was white over black, with Recaro seats. I was none too pleased that VW took styling in house for the second gen Scirocco, the exterior was a bit too bulbous for me. The most recent iterations look pretty good, though!

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 167,259
    My biggest regret from 1977, is that I didn't steal $1000, so that I could get a Scirocco, instead of a Cobra II

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  • texasestexases Posts: 9,330
    You can imagine the improvement in driving fun I had, coming from a '72 Duster with a 198 slant 6!
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,656
    kyfdx said:

    My biggest regret from 1977, is that I didn't steal $1000, so that I could get a Scirocco, instead of a Cobra II

    But, Mustang 2, boredom 0!
    I loved my Scirocco, as did rust. So light and tossable. Purty, too.

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 161,660
    kyfdx said:

    My biggest regret from 1977, is that I didn't steal $1000, so that I could get a Scirocco, instead of a Cobra II

    I could've used that same $1000 in 1991 to get a Sentra SE-R, rather than the SE I ended up getting

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,609
    I used to know a girl named Aura Lee who had a 2nd-gen Scirocco. Fun car, fun gal.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,656
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    My biggest regret from 1977, is that I didn't steal $1000, so that I could get a Scirocco, instead of a Cobra II

    I could've used that same $1000 in 1991 to get a Sentra SE-R, rather than the SE I ended up getting
    Bought the ex a '92 Sentra SE-R. Taught her to drive the stick, which carried over to the '95 Saab 900. Alas, that was the last stick for me/us. To this date...

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,234
    same here. $1k might have upgraded me from the 1985 Colt GTS (turbo package, sans turbo) to a GTI or Corolla SR5

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  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownPosts: 1,150
    Saw a TSX A-Spec today in Royal Blue with what looked like red interior. I was behind it at a stop light, so the interior color was a bit hard to see with the tint. Looked sharp.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 161,660

    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    My biggest regret from 1977, is that I didn't steal $1000, so that I could get a Scirocco, instead of a Cobra II

    I could've used that same $1000 in 1991 to get a Sentra SE-R, rather than the SE I ended up getting
    Bought the ex a '92 Sentra SE-R. Taught her to drive the stick, which carried over to the '95 Saab 900. Alas, that was the last stick for me/us. To this date...
    My other choice in '91 was the Civic Si. However, insurance guy told me it would be more expensive than the Sentra.

    In retrospect, I should have convinced the then-wife that we needed to spring for the SE-R

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 12,009


    Old School Silver vs. Modern Silver


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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 12,009


    @fintail cousin to your newer wagon
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 167,259
    Michaell said:

    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    My biggest regret from 1977, is that I didn't steal $1000, so that I could get a Scirocco, instead of a Cobra II

    I could've used that same $1000 in 1991 to get a Sentra SE-R, rather than the SE I ended up getting
    Bought the ex a '92 Sentra SE-R. Taught her to drive the stick, which carried over to the '95 Saab 900. Alas, that was the last stick for me/us. To this date...
    My other choice in '91 was the Civic Si. However, insurance guy told me it would be more expensive than the Sentra.

    In retrospect, I should have convinced the then-wife that we needed to spring for the SE-R
    then-wife

    Bad choices result in bad consequences ;)

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