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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 137,767
    Looks great from the outside; it's the inside that is disappointing, in my mind.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Maybe the only one in red?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 145,540
    fintail said:

    Maybe the only one in red?

    Yeah surprising. You could fit an 8 foot ladder in that thing.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 24,105
    Actually I see a good number. I recall seeing two today.

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  • jpp75jpp75 DenverPosts: 1,426
    Michaell said:

    Looks great from the outside; it's the inside that is disappointing, in my mind.

    I still remember the one we sat in the auto show, the interior was so disappointing compared to the exterior. GM really needs to step it up with their interiors all around.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    edited December 2019
    I think I've seen maybe not many more than two total of the Buick wagon ever. Even more uncommon than an MB wagon, which probably costs on average 2.5x more.

    GM once again taking a normal Euro market car and marketing it as near-lux, shades of the Catera (hopefully more reliable).
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 137,767
    fintail said:

    I think I've seen maybe not many more than two total of the Buick wagon ever. Even more uncommon than an MB wagon, which probably costs on average 2.5x more.

    GM once again taking a normal Euro market car and marketing it as near-lux, shades of the Catera (hopefully more reliable).

    Isn't 2020 the last year for the Regal? I know Opel is part of PSA now, and they are joining up with FCA, likely next year.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    That's right, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the Holden/Opel/Vauxhall badged versions. China apparently might keep it, however. The PSA thing is pretty weird, unlikely partners, not sure if I see the "synergy", as drones would say.
    Michaell said:


    Isn't 2020 the last year for the Regal? I know Opel is part of PSA now, and they are joining up with FCA, likely next year.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 137,767
    fintail said:

    That's right, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the Holden/Opel/Vauxhall badged versions. China apparently might keep it, however. The PSA thing is pretty weird, unlikely partners, not sure if I see the "synergy", as drones would say.


    Michaell said:


    Isn't 2020 the last year for the Regal? I know Opel is part of PSA now, and they are joining up with FCA, likely next year.

    It is true. Read somewhere about the demise of the Commodore nameplate down under.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 145,540
    Spotted another Regal TourX, yesterday. They don't stick out so much in gray..

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Saw a 6er GT in traffic yesterday, so they sold one!
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,437
    I found myself driving over one of our mountain passes in the X, along with an Urus and a Cayenne Turbo. It felt like there should have been some magazine comparison going on or something.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Sounds like the valet line at Bellevue Square (just need a Bentayga and AMG G) B)
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,551
    Blue Porsche Taycan. On the dealer floor, very sharp. What the Panamera should look like. Locked, no Monroney.

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,156
    Yesterday, someone test driving a black Fiata convertible with the top down.
    New record high temp of 68 degrees.
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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,551
    Two! Jag I-Pace.

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Saw one of the upper-middle Caddy SUV/CUVs that kind of looks like a Volvo XC90.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Saw a new Escape on the road today. Not as offensive in person as in pics, probably because over time we are being numbed to yet another cloned CUV.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 137,767
    fintail said:

    Saw a new Escape on the road today. Not as offensive in person as in pics, probably because over time we are being numbed to yet another cloned CUV.

    I've seen a couple recently, as well. I'll admit it's a nice contrast to the sharp angles of the RAV4.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,797
    The nearby Ford dealer had a bunch of 2020 Escapes parked next to a bunch of 2019s. You could tell they were different but I can’t say the new one looked better. Some aspects were, some weren’t.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,208
    I saw an Escape tonight too. I think I actually prefer the RAV4 this generation. Mainly because I prefer a CUV to be a little boxy, for better space utilization in the cargo area.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Faux floating C-pillar on the RAV4 triggers me, and not in a good way. The Toyota corporate face does it no favors, either. Maybe not a surprise, I prefer the first gen, back when cars could be cheeky and fun.
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,571
    Now that I have to look at a RAV all the time in front of my houses (Mom’s) it’s really not that offensive. It’s also light years ahead of the previous one in terms of the ride and drive.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,208
    And looks. I might take a drive in a hybrid version if the wife likes it at the car show. Too bad they get crazy expensive for a nicely equipped one. Also looking at crv hybrid when they come out. But also pricey.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • texasestexases Posts: 9,051
    I’m also considering the RAV4 hybrid. I worry about Honda’s bad record with hybrids.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    CRV aint pretty, but I think I would prefer it. That C-pillar is just so dumb, I wouldn't be able to stop looking at it, and would probably paint it body color myself. Fortunately, I am not a bloggermom with sensible vehicle size tastes/retired 70 year old teacher/dad who has completely lost his freedom, so one isn't on my radar :)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Saw a black Rolls-Royce Cullinan today - what would Marie Antoinette drive? If the guillotines are (finally) ever dusted off, those things will be like a beacon.
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,046
    fintail said:

    CRV aint pretty, but I think I would prefer it. That C-pillar is just so dumb, I wouldn't be able to stop looking at it, and would probably paint it body color myself. Fortunately, I am not a bloggermom with sensible vehicle size tastes/retired 70 year old teacher/dad who has completely lost his freedom, so one isn't on my radar :)

    As much as the CRV is not a looker, it has great space management for its size and is comfortable and drives well. They have solid resale as well.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,797
    The CRV’s turbo engine woes would concern me. Many older models up here suffered from premature rust out so badly that Honda had to buy them back. So who knows...

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,208
    I was monitoring the gas in oil issue but not seen anything lately. So hopefully resolved, and pretty isolated anyway. I am curious about the differences for the hybrid too. But definitely something to consider. Not an issue really if we lease though!

    I think it is pretty good looking, for what it is, and really like the interior. Nice seats, plenty of features, and good cargo room. Just have to see how it drives!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,838
    fintail said:

    Saw a black Rolls-Royce Cullinan today - what would Marie Antoinette drive? If the guillotines are (finally) ever dusted off, those things will be like a beacon.

    I like the sound of guillotine for a car name. LOL.
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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,046
    ab348 said:

    The CRV’s turbo engine woes would concern me. Many older models up here suffered from premature rust out so badly that Honda had to buy them back. So who knows...

    I hear you. Rust and turbo woes I think are more of a northern cold climate issue. Rarely do we see rust in this area unless the vehicle is not local. Sun damage to paint and interior is more common. Often a one or two year old CRV isn’t much cheaper than buying new.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,208
    it has been a long time since worrying about rust was even on my new car consideration checklist. Just doesn't exist any more.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,797
    stickguy said:

    it has been a long time since worrying about rust was even on my new car consideration checklist. Just doesn't exist any more.

    Clearly not the case in climates that use road salt, for certain makes.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 24,105
    edited January 23
    qbrozen said:

    I like the sound of guillotine for a car name. LOL.
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    Or "the cutting edge" of auto luxury.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    6er GT in white and a new style G-Wagen in white, I think it was a G63 (from a distance), seems harder than ever to find a non-bling G.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    edited January 26
    As I am about to mark 10 months in the wagon, it finally happened - a near twin parked near me:



    Not identical, as it is an E400 with sport trim, but similar enough. No shock, this was at Whole Foods (where I wanted to buy a $4 container of cheese I can't find elsewhere - and they were out, because of course). I see ab348 was there too.

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,571
    fintail said:

    As I am about to mark 10 months in the wagon, it finally happened - a near twin parked near me:



    Not identical, as it is an E400 with sport trim, but similar enough. No shock, this was at Whole Foods (where I wanted to buy a $4 container of cheese I can't find elsewhere - and they were out, because of course). I see ab348 was there too.

    I’ve yet to see an identical white S60 to mine. I did see a burgundy Momentum trim a few days ago.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    I have yet to see my twin either - the wheels on my car will make that fairly difficult as they were an extra cost option that doesn't seem to be the most popular (but I like the design a lot, suits the car). I recall going through nationwide inventory when I got the car, and didn't find anything completely identical when it comes to interior trim and options.
    tjc78 said:



    I’ve yet to see an identical white S60 to mine. I did see a burgundy Momentum trim a few days ago.

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,571
    When I was shopping there weren't many white on white Inscriptions. Not a high take rate I'm sure.

    Love the wheels on your wagon. Similar to my car.


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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Your car is in a great color combo, I wish the white/porcelain colors on MB were more common - I love the brown in mine, but white on white would have been pretty awesome, too.

    Those wheels are also nice, a pretty design without the false pretense of sport. I don't want an aggressive design, I don't need to pretend to be exciting.
    tjc78 said:

    When I was shopping there weren't many white on white Inscriptions. Not a high take rate I'm sure.

    Love the wheels on your wagon. Similar to my car.


  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,046
    fintail said:

    As I am about to mark 10 months in the wagon, it finally happened - a near twin parked near me:



    Not identical, as it is an E400 with sport trim, but similar enough. No shock, this was at Whole Foods (where I wanted to buy a $4 container of cheese I can't find elsewhere - and they were out, because of course). I see ab348 was there too.

    fintail said:

    As I am about to mark 10 months in the wagon, it finally happened - a near twin parked near me:



    Not identical, as it is an E400 with sport trim, but similar enough. No shock, this was at Whole Foods (where I wanted to buy a $4 container of cheese I can't find elsewhere - and they were out, because of course). I see ab348 was there too.

    If I was a betting man, yours is the clean one at the far left.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Yep. The wheels on my car are only available on "luxury" trim cars, which might be 1:10 of the production mix, if that.
    sda said:


    If I was a betting man, yours is the clean one at the far left.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Saw a new style G-Wagen in white, just after a final run style G also in white with the rare "night package" (black trim on fenders and roof). Both AMG of course, so hard to find a non-AMG model.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 145,540
    Bentley Bentayga

    Meh..

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,551
    Yes, I've seen a few of the Bentayga, totally meh-worthy. I'd go Urus... Or, DBX when available. Of course, Powerball win first.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Went to Whole Foods again in search of a $4 piece of cheese never in stock, and saw 2x E wagons - one was the same I posted before, and also a dark blue one with ID plates. I suppose the car fits the store. Not new, but also saw an Eclipse Cross on the road, not a rental! Could have been an ex rental, or someone actually bought a new one.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    Saw a Caddy XT5 "400", apparently they are badging for torque now.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,156
    400 is a torque measurement, but not FT/LBS.
    Maybe newton meters?
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,093
    I believe it is n/m, yes. First time I have noticed the badge.
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