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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 213,997
    Plus, the Mitsubishi makes it worse, with the taillights running across the rear window lower edge...

    The Aztek was ahead of it's time, for sure

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,800
    New unplated Challenger Hellcat widebody parked on the street near me.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,800
    At the dealer now in for service B and winter tire change out. Unusual ones in the showroom - AMG GT43 "coupe", decently optioned, 99K MSRP, and a C63S convertible with a "sold" sign - surprising in this SUV/CUV area.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,800
    Also GLA45, 70K MSRP.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 213,997
    fintail said:

    Also GLA45, 70K MSRP.

    That is hilarious

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 215,548
    kyfdx said:

    fintail said:

    Also GLA45, 70K MSRP.

    That is hilarious
    I couldn't respond, I was so stunned by that.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    Today, a new style Corolla sedan. Front end looks much nicer. Either the first one I have seen, or only one that registered on my brain.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,800
    edited March 2021
    Also a GLC43, 75K MSRP. Didn't see anything else insanely rare on the lot. Only E in stock is the E53 that was there when I visited in November.

    The GLA was pretty loaded, HUD, distronic, 2K wheel option, etc, but still, 70K is a bit dear for something like that.

    Pretty decent dealer experience on my second visit. Finished ahead of promised time, clean modern facility, and the same compliments on the wagon as before.
  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,826
    fintail said:

    Also GLA45, 70K MSRP.

    That’s like 25% in options. Yikes.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,800
    And much wilder when compared to a non-AMG, I think they had a more basic one with a ~42K sticker.
    qbrozen said:



    That’s like 25% in options. Yikes.

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,400
    Reminds me when the A6 had a $6K B&O Audio system option. Probably a good value compared to the lackluster $1K version.

    Then some people think special order option paint is outrageously priced, while others think it's a bargain. Yet others say; why not just wrap it?
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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,826
    My personal issue with options is that the value of many of them is next to nothing when you go to sell it. Beyond the real luxury basics, like leather and moonroof, and beyond performance options, it is money you need to be comfortable knowing Is 100% gone when you sign on the line.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    I have always heard you do better buying the base version of a fancier car, than a loaded up version of a lower line model.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,220
    Jag I-Pace tonight, the BEV. I like it, looked big, yet somehow sleek in motion.

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  • jpp75jpp75 DenverMember Posts: 1,535

    Jag I-Pace tonight, the BEV. I like it, looked big, yet somehow sleek in motion.

    I really like the I-Pace. Last summer before I got the Model3 I drove an Audi eTron, as @breld has noted the driving experience was nice but not what I was looking for, there was a Jag dealer next door and I remembered the IPace and decided to drive one. I loved how it drove, very nimble and tight. I would have gotten one but charging was an issue for me at the time (no ability to charge at home) so the Tesla Supercharger network made my decision for me.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,220
    Most reviews I"ve read have put the I-Pace over the e-Tron, Jpp. Much better driving experience. But, slow charging, which I believe Jag is improving for the '21s, if they ever get here. I'm worried about the marque.

    I had the same issue, nowhere to charge an electric at home. But, moving in with the fiance, I can plug in to her 120 in the garage (s.....l.....o.....w). And, I bought a PHEV, so no worries about running out of electrons.

    I'll consider a 240v when we move next year, in the new home.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    if they are building it to order for you, should see if can just have it built in. In theory, should be cheaper to have it done then.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,220
    stickguy said:

    if they are building it to order for you, should see if can just have it built in. In theory, should be cheaper to have it done then.

    Good point, and question to ask. There is some serious brainpower on this site, beyond mine, obviously.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    New style Kia Sorrento. Not bad looking for a mid-sized CUV.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,250
    I got a REAL close look at a new McLaren - it almost pulled over into me on the drive home from work. As to which model, I don't know, I can't keep all their numbers straight.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,738
    Saw my first new-design Buick Envision at the dealer today. It looks a LOT smaller then the outgoing one, just a bit bigger than an Encore. Pleasant enough design though nothing too groundbreaking.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,800
    Envision still made in China?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 213,997
    Kia Seltos. Top trim.

    Looked inoffensive. I think it's in the CR-V, RAV4 class?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    Size below. Looks bigger than it is. More of a CX3, HRV competitor.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,250
    Followed a Caddy CT4, something about the rear end just doesn't look right to me:
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,738
    The CT4 rear end is a very unhappy design. Only GM could take the best-looking Caddy design, the ATS, and make it the worst (IMO).

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,250
    The CT4 reminds me of the rear of an RX350, another mistake:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,800
    edited April 2021
    At least the CT4 doesn't have the lame narrow floating C-pillar, a really awful fad.

    Saw an electric Mustang sedan on the road.
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,583
    texases said:

    The CT4 reminds me of the rear of an RX350, another mistake:

    There are too many styling mistakes on the RX to count. It may be the ugliest “luxury” SUV out there.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,250
    Oh, I know, but I was just trying to avoid looking at all the others... :s
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 26,689
    texases said:

    Followed a Caddy CT4, something about the rear end just doesn't look right to me:

    It has a set of rear taillights like a Yaris. Nissan and toyota both had low end models that looked, well, cheap.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    Little reminiscent of the 70s era bustlebacks.

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  • tifightertifighter WAMember Posts: 3,303
    I've now seen a number of C8's in the wild. I will acknowledge that the design seems pretty color sensitive, but overall, I'm just not a fan. I admire the capability, but there's just too much going on here for me-

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,250
    I agree. Even calmed down as much as possible with a black paint job and plain silver wheels, it's just too busy

  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 18,098
    I saw my first C8 Corvette today coming at me head on.
    Instantly recognizable as a Corvette.
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 18,098
    Jeep Grand Wagoneer video.
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,583

    Jeep Grand Wagoneer video.

    I can’t watch this video at the moment, but I’ve seen others...

    Escalade and Navigator should be scared.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    That whole class of car befuddles me. Just, why?

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,583
    Because they sell and make money.

    In all honesty it’s a do all vehicle. Tons of cargo and people hauling, can tow anything and still be luxurious. If I had the budget I wouldn’t throw a Navigator out of my garage for the family.

    For just me, I’d prefer a sedan every time.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 18,098
    The biggest thing that is going to hold back the G-W is the ancient engines.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 215,548

    The biggest thing that is going to hold back the G-W is the ancient engines.

    Even if they drop the Hellcat motor into one?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    Michaell said:

    The biggest thing that is going to hold back the G-W is the ancient engines.

    Even if they drop the Hellcat motor into one?
    so a T Rex 4 door?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 18,098
    @michaell,
    Might sell some in the short run, but not too many people are going to be happy with 7-9 mpg in normal driving.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 215,548

    @michaell,
    Might sell some in the short run, but not too many people are going to be happy with 7-9 mpg in normal driving.

    Like the regular 5.7 Hemi will get much better MPG, in something that big. Gotta be 2.5 tons, at least.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 18,098
    Saw a new Rogue, seems much bigger than previous gen.
    Also, a new Elantra, looks much sportier than previous gen.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,826

    The biggest thing that is going to hold back the G-W is the ancient engines.

    Nah. Plenty of companies milk their engines for all they are worth. The Pentastar is only 9 yrs old. The 5.7 hemi dates back about 17-18 yrs. BMW used the M30 for damned near 30 years and nobody complained.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 47,405
    I have seen a few new Elantras. Definitely distinctive styling.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,738

    Also, a new Elantra, looks much sportier than previous gen.

    For whatever reason they are already all over the roads around here. A hard pass from me. More evidence of Hyundai torturing sheet metal without mercy.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 18,098
    From what I understand, for now the options for the G-W is the 5.7 or 6.4, both ancient.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,826

    From what I understand, for now the options for the G-W is the 5.7 or 6.4, both ancient.

    Would you rather a boosted 4-cyl like everyone else? I’m quite happy with my “antique” 5.7. Not sure what I could gain from a newly designed V8. My LT1 is even older, and I certainly won’t complain about that, either. A twin-turbo 6 is nice and all, but doesn’t sound nearly the same, adds complexity, and gains absolutely nothing (despite claim of increased efficiency, real-world results prove otherwise). So, I ask, what would the company gain by designing and engineering another V8?

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