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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    jman216 said:

    Michaell said:

    jman216 said:

    Could you please provide residual and MF for a 2016.5 CX-5 (AWD) in Chicago area? 36ms at 12K/yr. Thanks!

    What trim level?
    Grand Touring. Thanks!
    62% and .00049

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    wilkey711 said:

    Michael.... In CA... 2016 or 2016.5 cx5 GT... Can you tell me May residual and MF...? ... Thankyou

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • wilkey711wilkey711 Member Posts: 2
    Oh... 36 m 12k miles
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    wilkey711 said:

    Michael.... In CA... 2016 or 2016.5 cx5 GT... Can you tell me May residual and MF...? ... Thankyou

    wilkey711 said:

    Oh... 36 m 12k miles

    I'll assume FWD as you are in CA.

    2016 - 60% and .00001.$700 lease cash
    2016.5 - 63% and .00049

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  • essdubyaessdubya Member Posts: 23
    Can someone please comment and advise on this lease quote I received from a dealer today for a 2016.5 AWD Touring with Moonroof quote and see if there's room for negotiation. I think it seems a little high.

    Queens NY

    MSRP: 29,250 <----however, I saw the MSRP on KellyBB as 28,545 as of May 10, 2016
    Dealer proposing price of: 28,750
    10K miles
    Residual: 18,700
    Money Factor: 0.00049
    0 down

    Due at signing (taxes,fees): 2,161
    Monthly payment: 299
    Lease terms: 36 months

    Can I negotiate 1500-2K down from the MSRP?
    I can realistically afford a monthly payment (0 down) of around 250-275 a month. Is that reasonable to negotiate for?

    Thanks!






  • essdubyaessdubya Member Posts: 23
    Also forgot to add that they don't include free scheduled maintenance/oil changes
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    essdubya said:

    Can someone please comment and advise on this lease quote I received from a dealer today for a 2016.5 AWD Touring with Moonroof quote and see if there's room for negotiation. I think it seems a little high.

    Queens NY

    MSRP: 29,250

    .00049 and 64%. I get $302/mo, so pretty close to the dealer quote.

    My guess is KBB isn't including the destination charge in their MSRP.

    I don't track pricing, so can't tell you if you can get more than $500 off sticker.

    However, to get from $300/mo to $275/mo, you'll have to negotiate almost $1000 off the price. And another $1000 to get to $250/mo

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  • essdubyaessdubya Member Posts: 23
    Thank you so much Michaell !!!
  • teaseywolvteaseywolv Member Posts: 2
    Could someone please look over these numbers for me?

    In Michigan, 2016.5 AWD Touring with Moonroof/Bose package

    MSRP: 28,545
    Discounted price: 27,670
    Document: 210
    Sales tax: 1672.80
    License and title: 23
    Subtotal: 29,575.80
    Incentives: -580
    Total: $28,995.80

    Residual: 64%
    Money factor: .0049

    Due at signing $1403
    Monthly: $320
    Lease terms: 36 months, 10000 miles

    The reason I ask is because a different dealership in Michigan (same car, similar numbers) offered $279.85 per month, $1392.85 due at signing (includes $1000 down and first monthly payment). I seem to be missing something here.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288

    Could someone please look over these numbers for me?

    In Michigan, 2016.5 AWD Touring with Moonroof/Bose package

    MSRP: 28,545
    Discounted price: 27,670
    Document: 210
    Sales tax: 1672.80
    License and title: 23
    Subtotal: 29,575.80
    Incentives: -580
    Total: $28,995.80

    Residual: 64%
    Money factor: .0049

    Due at signing $1403
    Monthly: $320
    Lease terms: 36 months, 10000 miles

    The reason I ask is because a different dealership in Michigan (same car, similar numbers) offered $279.85 per month, $1392.85 due at signing (includes $1000 down and first monthly payment). I seem to be missing something here.

    Your numbers give me a payment of $321/mo, so pretty close to the quote.

    However, I thought sales tax on leases in MI were applied to the monthly payment, not to the entire selling price. Looks like the dealer as mixed purchase and lease information in the same quote.

    If I back out the tax amount from the total, I get $274/mo plus tax; if the tax rate is 6% (guess on my part), then the payment is roughly $290/mo.

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  • teaseywolvteaseywolv Member Posts: 2
    Is there any reason why one dealer would tax the vehicle price and another would tax just the monthly payments within the same state? I believe you are correct that the cars here should be taxed on the monthly payments.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718

    Is there any reason why one dealer would tax the vehicle price and another would tax just the monthly payments within the same state? I believe you are correct that the cars here should be taxed on the monthly payments.

    No.. both dealers have to calculate the tax the same way. The dealer showing full tax is just trying to obfuscate the actual price paid on the lease.

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  • essdubyaessdubya Member Posts: 23
    Hi @teaseywolv just for comparison, I was able to negotiate a deal today for the same model/trim (2016.5 AWD moonroof) as you for $270/month, 0 down, 2000 taxes/fees (NY requires upfront tax be paid) for 36/10k. hope that helps!

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  • acura_na2acura_na2 Member Posts: 16
    Can i get the MF and Residuals for 2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring for Texas?
    TIA!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    acura_na2 said:

    Can i get the MF and Residuals for 2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring for Texas?
    TIA!

    .00049 MF and 59%/61% residual for FWD/AWD for 36/15.

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  • acura_na2acura_na2 Member Posts: 16
    thank you!!
  • acura_na2acura_na2 Member Posts: 16
    oh wait, do they have a 36/12 or 36/10 in terms of the mileage allowed? If so, what is the corresponding MF and residuals
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    acura_na2 said:

    oh wait, do they have a 36/12 or 36/10 in terms of the mileage allowed? If so, what is the corresponding MF and residuals

    Add 2% or 3% for 12K/yr or 10K/yr

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  • tigerheeltigerheel Member Posts: 18
    Going shopping tomorrow. Can you please give me the latest numbers and incentives for a
    36/10K and 24/10K for the Grand touring AWD. In Kentucky
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    tigerheel said:

    Going shopping tomorrow. Can you please give me the latest numbers and incentives for a
    36/10K and 24/10K for the Grand touring AWD. In Kentucky

    .00049 MF and 63% residual
    .00307 MF and 83% residual

    That's one high residual to go along with a giant money factor on the 24 month term.

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  • jacalykerjacalyker Member Posts: 20
    I'm afraid I may not have enough info.

    On a 2016.5 Sport with MSRP of 24,550, I was offered 21,000, after all incentives. Using your info for a 36 month, 15,000 mile lease, I'm coming in around $220 on a zero down where I pay inceptions. Dealer comes up wth 265. . Can you figure out who's right, or what additional expenses are being added?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    jacalyker said:

    I'm afraid I may not have enough info.

    On a 2016.5 Sport with MSRP of 24,550, I was offered 21,000, after all incentives. Using your info for a 36 month, 15,000 mile lease, I'm coming in around $220 on a zero down where I pay inceptions. Dealer comes up wth 265. . Can you figure out who's right, or what additional expenses are being added?

    Which state?

    AWD or FWD?

    It's possible that some incentives quoted aren't available for a lease.. Also, there is tax.

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  • jacalykerjacalyker Member Posts: 20
    Florida
    FWD
    Tax is payable monthly and reflected in my $220
    The 21000 was their number, and they keep all incentives and rebates
  • nico1985nico1985 Member Posts: 1
    Looking at a lease for the 2016.5 AWD grand touring in NC, 36/12

    MSRP 33480
    Cap costs 33080

    Getting quoted $398 a month with $0 down
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    edited May 2016
    jacalyker said:

    I'm afraid I may not have enough info.

    On a 2016.5 Sport with MSRP of 24,550, I was offered 21,000, after all incentives. Using your info for a 36 month, 15,000 mile lease, I'm coming in around $220 on a zero down where I pay inceptions. Dealer comes up wth 265. . Can you figure out who's right, or what additional expenses are being added?

    jacalyker said:

    Florida
    FWD
    Tax is payable monthly and reflected in my $220
    The 21000 was their number, and they keep all incentives and rebates

    .00049 MF and 60% residual

    $192/mo.+tax, with those numbers.

    Ask for the adjusted CAP cost. If it's different from $21,000, then ask why.
    "Inceptions" is a broad term. Find out what you are paying at signing, and what else has been added to the $21,000 that's in the lease.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    nico1985 said:

    Looking at a lease for the 2016.5 AWD grand touring in NC, 36/12

    MSRP 33480
    Cap costs 33080

    Getting quoted $398 a month with $0 down

    .00049 MF and 62% residual.

    I get $375/mo.+tax.

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  • tigerheeltigerheel Member Posts: 18
    Need some thoughts on this offer from the dealer: CX-5 GT AWD

    retail 30,770

    Sales price 29,000

    Doc fees 559

    Cap taxes 24

    Acquisiton fee 595


    Gross Cap cost 30,519 (something is missing here -- does not add up?)

    Cash down 400 (which includes first lease payment)

    net cap cost = 30,119


    thoughts?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    tigerheel said:

    Need some thoughts on this offer from the dealer: CX-5 GT AWD

    retail 30,770

    Sales price 29,000

    Doc fees 559

    Cap taxes 24

    Acquisiton fee 595


    Gross Cap cost 30,519 (something is missing here -- does not add up?)

    Cash down 400 (which includes first lease payment)

    net cap cost = 30,119


    thoughts?

    Ask the dealer what the $314 difference is.

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  • tigerheeltigerheel Member Posts: 18
    difference is 341 the first payment -- so put in one place -- then taken out another place (slightly higher with 400) so basically thats the deal and added $59
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    tigerheel said:

    difference is 341 the first payment -- so put in one place -- then taken out another place (slightly higher with 400) so basically thats the deal and added $59

    Ah, I see.

    I didn't see a lease term or miles per year ... what are they?

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  • tigerheeltigerheel Member Posts: 18
    36 mo. 10K 342 per month
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    tigerheel said:

    36 mo. 10K 342 per month

    I get $334/mo before tax with those prices (.00049 MF and 63% residual for 36/10)

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  • carprevizcarpreviz Member Posts: 17
    Hi,

    Can I please get the MF and Residual for 2016.5 CX5 Grand Touring for California.

    36/12k and 36/15k

    Are the lease incentives the same for May as they are in June?

    Thank You!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    carpreviz said:

    Hi,

    Can I please get the MF and Residual for 2016.5 CX5 Grand Touring for California.

    36/12k and 36/15k

    Are the lease incentives the same for May as they are in June?

    Thank You!

    FWD: .000049 MF and 61%/59% residual

    If AWD, add 2%

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  • carprevizcarpreviz Member Posts: 17
    carpreviz said:

    Hi,

    Can I please get the MF and Residual for 2016.5 CX5 Grand Touring for California.

    36/12k and 36/15k

    Are the lease incentives the same for May as they are in June?

    Thank You!

    Is that .000049 with four 0's? or 3 0's?

    and are these numbers the same for the Touring (not Grand Touring)?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    carpreviz said:

    carpreviz said:

    Hi,

    Can I please get the MF and Residual for 2016.5 CX5 Grand Touring for California.

    36/12k and 36/15k

    Are the lease incentives the same for May as they are in June?

    Thank You!

    Is that .000049 with four 0's? or 3 0's?

    and are these numbers the same for the Touring (not Grand Touring)?

    oops.... typo.. 3 zeroes. Generally, a money factor never goes beyond five digits after the decimal. Good catch!

    For FWD, add 1% for Touring. .00049 MF

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  • tigerheeltigerheel Member Posts: 18
    In case this could help anyone else -- here is the deal I got today on a 2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring:

    MSRP is 30,770.

    I walked out with final price of 29,641. This includes everything -- processing, doc fees, acquis fee -- everything

    Selling price before fees was $28568
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  • acura_na2acura_na2 Member Posts: 16
    Is there any lease incentives in June? I thought I read somewhere there was a $700 incentive. I am located in Houston, TX.
    This is my first Mazda, and I have to admit, there is not a lot of wiggle room with the Mazda dealers. Most are 5-7.5% down from MSRP. Are other seeing the same in this region?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    acura_na2 said:

    Is there any lease incentives in June? I thought I read somewhere there was a $700 incentive. I am located in Houston, TX.
    This is my first Mazda, and I have to admit, there is not a lot of wiggle room with the Mazda dealers. Most are 5-7.5% down from MSRP. Are other seeing the same in this region?

    No lease incentives on the 2016.5 CX-5.

    $700 available on the 2016 CX-5

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  • reajr72reajr72 Member Posts: 1
    Hello, can you provide MF and RV for the 2016.5 CX-5 AWD Grand Touring for NC? 36/12.And thank you for being here and helping us all...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    reajr72 said:

    Hello, can you provide MF and RV for the 2016.5 CX-5 AWD Grand Touring for NC? 36/12.And thank you for being here and helping us all...

    62% and .00049

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  • nicks4nicks4 Member Posts: 79
    Can I get the MF and RV for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 AWD Grand Touring for:

    36 Months 
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    Thank you 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    nicks4 said:

    Can I get the MF and RV for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 AWD Grand Touring for:

    36 Months 
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    Thank you 

    .00049 MF and 62%/60% residual

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  • nicks4nicks4 Member Posts: 79
    edited May 2016
    Sorry to ask again but I am also considering these other three versions of the CX-5:

    2016.5 CX-5 AWD Touring
    36 Months
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    2016.5 CX-5 FWD Touring
    36 Months
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    2016.5 CX-5 FWD Grand Touring
    36 Months
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    Thank you very much for providing this information.
  • nicks4nicks4 Member Posts: 79
    Just making sure you show my question above. Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    nicks4 said:

    Sorry to ask again but I am also considering these other three versions of the CX-5:

    2016.5 CX-5 AWD Touring
    36 Months
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    2016.5 CX-5 FWD Touring
    36 Months
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    2016.5 CX-5 FWD Grand Touring
    36 Months
    12 & 15K per year
    In Virginia

    Thank you very much for providing this information.

    36/15 numbers:
    AWD Touring - 61% and .00049
    FWD Touring - 60% and .00049
    FWD GT - 59% and .00049

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  • vinz2016vinz2016 Member Posts: 2
    Can you please provide the MF and Residual for 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 AWD Grand Touring in NJ.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,288
    vinz2016 said:

    Can you please provide the MF and Residual for 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 AWD Grand Touring in NJ.

    60% and .00049 for 36/15

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