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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    2008 BMW 335 convertible: BMW of Chattanooga TN
    2014 MB GL350: MB of Westchester OH (Cincinnati)
    2016 Audi RS7: Audi Hunt Valley, Cockeysville MD
    2017 Honda Accord: Ed Martin Honda, Indianapolis IN
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,342
    Fields BMW(Chicago): 318ti
    Cross Motors: Wrangler
    Sam Swope: BMW X3
    Sam Swope: BMW 328i
    BMW of Cincinnati North: M235i
    BMW of Louisville: i3

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    edited January 2017
    Mercedes-Benz of Bellevue (E250)
    Private seller in a small PNW town (fintail)
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,187
    28FF: The copy I signed/dealer retained had numbers on it, but I didn't take note. I was late for a date...
    MJFloyd: You get around!

    Jaguar/Land Rover of Sudbury: Sudbury, MA
    BMW of Boston: Boston, MA
    Lexus of Norwood: Norwood, MA

    Although, legally, I no longer have an interest in the BMW or Lexus.. B)

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,690
    edited January 2017
    Well, now I feel the outcast! Most of my vehicles didn't come from a dealership when I purchased them. I'll see if I can remember where they did come from, though.....

    Carter Subaru - Shoreline, WA (this is my only dealer purchase in current lineup)
    ------
    I think my '08 Forester came from Auto Service Company (now Kendall), Fairbanks, AK; I bought from second owner via PP.
    C20 came from Beyerl Chevrolet - somewhere in Pennsylvania. I bought from original owner in 1997 via PP.
    E100 sorta came from an LA area dealer, at least the part my father bought new in 1971. He gave it to me in 1991.
    F250 was bought new from Worthington Ford (now Kendall as well), though this was 11/1975, so I think the Anchorage Ford dealer was not even purchased by Worthington at that point. My grandfather gave the truck to me in 2007.

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    xwesx said:

    Well, now I feel the outcast! Most of my vehicles didn't come from a dealership when I purchased them. I'll see if I can remember where they did come from, though.....

    Carter Subaru - Shoreline, WA (this is my only dealer purchase in current lineup)
    ------
    I think my '08 Forester came from Auto Service Company (now Kendall), Fairbanks, AK; I bought from second owner via PP.
    C20 came from Beyerl Chevrolet - somewhere in Pennsylvania. I bought from original owner in 1997 via PP.
    E100 sorta came from an LA area dealer, at least the part my father bought new in 1971. He gave it to me in 1991.
    F250 was bought new from Worthington Ford (now Kendall as well), though this was 11/1975, so I think the Anchorage Ford dealer was not even purchased by Worthington at that point. My grandfather gave the truck to me in 2007.

    The dealer in PA is Baierl Chevrolet - just outside Pittsburgh. I only know them because they were a named sponsor for a period of the Peterson Events Center on Pitt's Campus.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    edited January 2017
    error
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    error, wish we could delete

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    edited January 2017
    O'Regans GM - ATS
    Bob McDonald Chevrolet-Oldsmobile (defunct) - Cutlass

    Both of those in Halifax, Nova Scotia

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,267
    Park Place Lexus, Plano, TX
    David McDavid Honda, Frisco, TX
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    2011 BMW - private sale
    2006 BMW - used from BMW of Dayton (aka Evans)
    1995 BMW - private sale

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,072
    DeCoskey Buick/Chevy, Ohio
    Bunnin Chevrolet, Santa Barbara, California
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • jpp75jpp75 Member Posts: 1,535
    Carolina VW, Charlotte, NC - Touareg
    Parkway Volvo, Wilmington, NC - S60
    Car Pros - Rock Hill, SC - Pathfinder
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Viva Kia -  El Paso, TX

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,299
    2012 Nissan Murano - Carmax
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,974
    Burns Buick/GMC RT 70 Marlton NJ
    Burns Hyundai RT 70 Marlton NJ

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Golf/Gunther VW Coconut Creek FL
    Audi/Audi of Coral Springs/Coral Springs FL

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    28FF: The copy I signed/dealer retained had numbers on it, but I didn't take note. I was late for a date...
    MJFloyd: You get around!

    Jaguar/Land Rover of Sudbury: Sudbury, MA
    BMW of Boston: Boston, MA
    Lexus of Norwood: Norwood, MA

    Although, legally, I no longer have an interest in the BMW or Lexus.. B)

    I'm not afraid of driving for a good deal...
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    The X1 was an @mjfloyd1 moment. I submitted an offer to a dealer 3 hours away figuring there was no way they would accept because it was so low. They did and I had to scramble to get it!
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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    My two are easy, both purchased within the last 6 days!

    Greenway Mazda, Houston -- used 2016 Chrysler Town and Country

    Momentum Volkswagen, Houston -- new 2017 Passat R-Line

    I can give a solid thumbs up to Momentum Volkswagen, and the salesman I dealt with. Friendly, courteous, knew the car, honored the online advertised price, gave me exactly the amount for my trade that @qbrozen said I should get.

    Greenway Mazda, not so much. The sales process was all right, a lot of back and forth, but all right. After the sale, not so much. The salesman could not find the second key for the T&C, said he would find it on Monday and call me. He never called, so I called him on Monday afternoon. "I'm going to go look for that right now and call you back."

    Wednesday morning, I called the dealership, asked for the GM, and left a message on his voice mail. 10 minutes later the salesman finally calls me back and says they don't have a second key. I don't think I'll be recommending them.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,538
    henryn said:

    My two are easy, both purchased within the last 6 days!

    Greenway Mazda, Houston -- used 2016 Chrysler Town and Country

    Momentum Volkswagen, Houston -- new 2017 Passat R-Line

    I can give a solid thumbs up to Momentum Volkswagen, and the salesman I dealt with. Friendly, courteous, knew the car, honored the online advertised price, gave me exactly the amount for my trade that @qbrozen said I should get.

    Greenway Mazda, not so much. The sales process was all right, a lot of back and forth, but all right. After the sale, not so much. The salesman could not find the second key for the T&C, said he would find it on Monday and call me. He never called, so I called him on Monday afternoon. "I'm going to go look for that right now and call you back."

    Wednesday morning, I called the dealership, asked for the GM, and left a message on his voice mail. 10 minutes later the salesman finally calls me back and says they don't have a second key. I don't think I'll be recommending them.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    The X1 was an @mjfloyd1 moment. I submitted an offer to a dealer 3 hours away figuring there was no way they would accept because it was so low. They did and I had to scramble to get it!
    Only 3 hours? 
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    Hey @stever it is not a Tercel, but it is pretty close.

    25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,589
    jpp5862 said:

    Carolina VW, Charlotte, NC - Touareg
    Parkway Volvo, Wilmington, NC - S60
    Car Pros - Rock Hill, SC - Pathfinder

    I bought my wife's new '99 Passat 1.8t at Carolina VW in '99

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,589
    henryn said:

    My two are easy, both purchased within the last 6 days!

    Greenway Mazda, Houston -- used 2016 Chrysler Town and Country

    Momentum Volkswagen, Houston -- new 2017 Passat R-Line

    I can give a solid thumbs up to Momentum Volkswagen, and the salesman I dealt with. Friendly, courteous, knew the car, honored the online advertised price, gave me exactly the amount for my trade that @qbrozen said I should get.

    Greenway Mazda, not so much. The sales process was all right, a lot of back and forth, but all right. After the sale, not so much. The salesman could not find the second key for the T&C, said he would find it on Monday and call me. He never called, so I called him on Monday afternoon. "I'm going to go look for that right now and call you back."

    Wednesday morning, I called the dealership, asked for the GM, and left a message on his voice mail. 10 minutes later the salesman finally calls me back and says they don't have a second key. I don't think I'll be recommending them.

    henryn said:

    My two are easy, both purchased within the last 6 days!

    Greenway Mazda, Houston -- used 2016 Chrysler Town and Country

    Momentum Volkswagen, Houston -- new 2017 Passat R-Line

    I can give a solid thumbs up to Momentum Volkswagen, and the salesman I dealt with. Friendly, courteous, knew the car, honored the online advertised price, gave me exactly the amount for my trade that @qbrozen said I should get.

    Greenway Mazda, not so much. The sales process was all right, a lot of back and forth, but all right. After the sale, not so much. The salesman could not find the second key for the T&C, said he would find it on Monday and call me. He never called, so I called him on Monday afternoon. "I'm going to go look for that right now and call you back."

    Wednesday morning, I called the dealership, asked for the GM, and left a message on his voice mail. 10 minutes later the salesman finally calls me back and says they don't have a second key. I don't think I'll be recommending them.

    Congrats on the Passat. Tell us more, color, etc. I am still partial to VWs even though I have two Hondas currently in the driveway.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,299
    edited January 2017
    henryn said:
    My two are easy, both purchased within the last 6 days! Greenway Mazda, Houston -- used 2016 Chrysler Town and Country Momentum Volkswagen, Houston -- new 2017 Passat R-Line I can give a solid thumbs up to Momentum Volkswagen, and the salesman I dealt with. Friendly, courteous, knew the car, honored the online advertised price, gave me exactly the amount for my trade that @qbrozen said I should get. Greenway Mazda, not so much. The sales process was all right, a lot of back and forth, but all right. After the sale, not so much. The salesman could not find the second key for the T&C, said he would find it on Monday and call me. He never called, so I called him on Monday afternoon. "I'm going to go look for that right now and call you back." Wednesday morning, I called the dealership, asked for the GM, and left a message on his voice mail. 10 minutes later the salesman finally calls me back and says they don't have a second key. I don't think I'll be recommending them.
    They should pay for a second key and programming it. You will get dinged when you trade it in if you don't have it. 
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    corvette said:


    henryn said:

    My two are easy, both purchased within the last 6 days!

    Greenway Mazda, Houston -- used 2016 Chrysler Town and Country

    Momentum Volkswagen, Houston -- new 2017 Passat R-Line

    I can give a solid thumbs up to Momentum Volkswagen, and the salesman I dealt with. Friendly, courteous, knew the car, honored the online advertised price, gave me exactly the amount for my trade that @qbrozen said I should get.

    Greenway Mazda, not so much. The sales process was all right, a lot of back and forth, but all right. After the sale, not so much. The salesman could not find the second key for the T&C, said he would find it on Monday and call me. He never called, so I called him on Monday afternoon. "I'm going to go look for that right now and call you back."

    Wednesday morning, I called the dealership, asked for the GM, and left a message on his voice mail. 10 minutes later the salesman finally calls me back and says they don't have a second key. I don't think I'll be recommending them.

    They should pay for a second key and programming it. You will get dinged when you trade it in if you don't have it. 

    I agree that I need a second key, but I'm not going to squabble with them. Pointless exercise, very unlikely to win, and just not worth the hassle. I found an OEM key from highly rated seller on ebay for $39 shipped, and have it coming my way. Reading in the Chrysler minivan forums, I can expect to pay $50 to $75 to a dealer to program it.

    It's interesting, the conventional wisdom seems to be to go to a locksmith instead of the dealer. I tried 3 locksmiths here in Houston. The first would not give me a price until he came out, and that would cost me $20. The second wanted $190, and the third said it would be $240 to $280, depending.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,508
    Wait a minute! @henryn - did you just casually mention a Passat R punch? Details please!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    gotta pay attention these days Bradd. Punches flying fast and furious (well, not for me!).

    He traded the F150 in on a killer deal on the R line. so 2 punches and turned over the whole fleet in about a week. Even Breld can't pull that off!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,299
    henryn said:

    I found an OEM key from highly rated seller on ebay for $39 shipped, and have it coming my way.

    Is there a "backup" metal key inside that you can get cut to fit?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    corvette said:
    I found an OEM key from highly rated seller on ebay for $39 shipped, and have it coming my way.
    Is there a "backup" metal key inside that you can get cut to fit?
    Yes

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • js06gvjs06gv Member Posts: 460
    Optima - Classic Kia of Carrollton
    Mustang - Park Cities Ford Dallas
    F-150 - Five Star Ford Carrollton
    Trans Am - private seller (he purchased new @ Vista Ridge Pontiac Carrollton)

    It took me typing this to realize that 3 of my 4 cars all came from a common city, and one in which I've never lived!

    2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,123
    -1998 Mustang Cobra Convertible-private seller
    -2016 Cadillac CTS-Wyler Cadillac
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • jeffb0101jeffb0101 Member Posts: 53
    2012 Honda Accord- Richards Honda- Baton Rouge, La

    2015 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5

  • tommister2tommister2 Member Posts: 393
    Camry and Tundra - Mechanicsville Toyota
    Pilot - West Broad Honda
    Wrangler - private sale
    2011 Toyota Camry, 2014 Jeep Wrangler, 2017 Honda Civic Coupe, 2019 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid XSE, 2021 Toyota Tundra, 2022 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Tesla Model 3
  • sb55sb55 Member Posts: 658
    BMW of Peabody, Mass. (535d)
    Handy Chevrolet, St. Albans, VT (Silverado)
    Colonial Mazda, Danbury, CT (Miata)

    2025 Toyota Crown Signia Hybrid, 2022 Ram 2500 Laramie 6.4 Hemi, 2007 Mazda MX-5 Miata PRHT

  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    @qbrozen hear you on that do the same to as whell. evan tho have one of the cars that I like now. have an good weekand to all.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    All local here in the Denver area:

    VW Jetta - McDonald VW
    BMW 428 - CO's BMW
    MINI Clubman - Mini of Loveland
    Dodge Durango - Groove Subaru

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    Okay, so here's a funny search that I may be helping with for one of my wife's friends.

    She currently drives a bright yellow PT Cruiser, and she's finally ready to move on.

    So, here are the requirements:

    Yellow exterior (or maybe another bright color)
    Heated seats
    AWD
    Around $20k

    That's it. :)

    Quick look on cars.com:
    • Jeep Renegade
    • Fiat 500x
    • Nissan Juke
    • Mini Countryman
    • Subaru Crosstrek (if orange is acceptable)
    I'll likely question the need for AWD, since that opens up possibilities like the Kia Soul and Honda Fit.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    breld said:
    Okay, so here's a funny search that I may be helping with for one of my wife's friends. She currently drives a bright yellow PT Cruiser, and she's finally ready to move on. So, here are the requirements: Yellow exterior (or maybe another bright color) Heated seats AWD Around $20k That's it. :) Quick look on cars.com:
    • Jeep Renegade
    • Fiat 500x
    • Nissan Juke
    • Mini Countryman
    • Subaru Crosstrek (if orange is acceptable)
    I'll likely question the need for AWD, since that opens up possibilities like the Kia Soul and Honda Fit.
    Soul was the first one that popped into my head. 
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,974
    Same here, Soul 

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2017
    Crosstrek or Soul or Juke---the others are just trouble if bought used out of warranty.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576
    Schumacher Mercedes Benz, Scottsdale
    Bell Honda, Phoenix
    Liberty Buick, Peoria, Az.
    Audi North Scottsdale
  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,072
    Kia Soul. Hands down. 
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    Consensus reached. Your job is done, @breld
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    I always liked these from a functional standpoint. Perfect combo of size, utility and driving experience. This one is pretty, miles low, but no way am I going near a 15 YO VW, certainly not a complicated one like this. Too bad there are not many newer alternatives with the same practicality.

    http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2002-volkswagen-passat-4dr_wagon_glx_v6_4motion_automatic-used-15981124.html

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    my usual trolling of cheap utility. Found this one. Miles a bit high, but sounds maintained, and looks good. Knock some $$ off and in the $2K range, could do worse for an around town mule! Plus I always liked these.

    https://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5962354379.html

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    cheap enough. but pretty sure with these, the cover charge is just the beginning.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    stickguy said:
    I always liked these from a functional standpoint. Perfect combo of size, utility and driving experience. This one is pretty, miles low, but no way am I going near a 15 YO VW, certainly not a complicated one like this. Too bad there are not many newer alternatives with the same practicality. http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2002-volkswagen-passat-4dr_wagon_glx_v6_4motion_automatic-used-15981124.html
    I love these. Still think they look good 15 years later. 
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