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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    @qbrozen wow your son has an good eye for sum nice cars.

    thanks. :)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    Too bad it is only a 350. 
    http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/5990314520.html

    Still...might make a good starting point for some upgrades

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    hate the wheel/tire set on it. Can't stand super skinny sidewalls on old american muscle cars.

    and if you go to look, bring back-up. lots of back-up.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    was out earlier, and got stuck at a light, right behind a red Q50. I believe same color GG just got. I like it in person. Sharp. Not too bright either.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited March 2017
    I could get myself a 5-speed Chevy Spark here in KC for only $11,100. Humm...my own grape-mobile. :p

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,075
    Careful you don't get squashed! :D
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    Spend a little more and get a Sonic.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited March 2017
    I like that it has Android Auto and a 7" display screen with rear-view camera. I could buy an American car once again.

    Made in South Korea by GM-Daewoo. :p

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    My sister finally solved her transportation issues:


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    what are the details? My local guy has a newer but miled up RX incoming. I would not pay the price for it, but perfect colors.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    It's a 2008 RX400h. Blue over grey interior. 120K miles, she paid something like $12K for it.

    I'm sure she overpaid, but she loves it. Nephew #2 is happy, as he gets his Mazda 3 back (ps, he'll be starting his first job soon).

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    That's what a former co-worker has and is fretting over because of the batteries. When they go, they are very expensive and according to him, that looming cost has really depressed resale values.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,843
    Our neighbor recently bought one and loves it. I don't think she can go wrong with it. 
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    ab348 said:

    That's what a former co-worker has and is fretting over because of the batteries. When they go, they are very expensive and according to him, that looming cost has really depressed resale values.

    My sister did say she got an extended warranty - but I wonder if it covers the batteries.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    Michaell said:

    ab348 said:

    That's what a former co-worker has and is fretting over because of the batteries. When they go, they are very expensive and according to him, that looming cost has really depressed resale values.

    My sister did say she got an extended warranty - but I wonder if it covers the batteries.
    Not covering the batteries would be like not covering the engine!
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    Michaell said:
    That's what a former co-worker has and is fretting over because of the batteries. When they go, they are very expensive and according to him, that looming cost has really depressed resale values.
    My sister did say she got an extended warranty - but I wonder if it covers the batteries.
    A warranty on a 120k mile car? Would love to know the details on that one.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,229
    Do not, I repeat, do not buy a Spark! They are just dismal and think after the newness novelty wears off, you will be totally unhappy. Last one I drove had the front tire explode on the expressway which caused over $1250 in damages to it, front bumper was hanging off and vehicle was undriveable. You want a new vehicle, hey, I get it but, your Soul is still a better vehicle. Be smart, save the money and wait another year, possibly two. Then, get a better vehicle that will keep the wife happy and one you will really enjoy. Think if you really take some time and really think here, you'll come to the same conclusion.
    Kinda in the same boat as you are. Really like my current ride but...want something different. And by different, leaning towards a 3 Series BMW. Found one a few weeks back, but just couldn't pull the trigger. They now have a one year newer one, great color combo that I really really like because it isn't a very popular combo. Decent price, decent miles. But, still haven't gone for a test drive and as of Friday, still on the lot. But, even though I do like it, the timing's just off. Not to mention the static I'd get from the wife and one of the kids. Can afford it by just writing a check but, my logical side is just saying wait, wait for the right time.
    As hard as that it, I'm biting the bullet and just going to wait for I know that when the timing is right, I'll find the perfect vehicle and won't hesitate to pull the trigger. And I won't look back, like a couple years ago when I traded into the Golf.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    this one is nice. Like the equipment. Price seems OK for a 2014, but that obviously reflects the steep miles. Probably still too high, but as always, I can never judge that. Probably need to drop a couple grand more to make it worth while. Oh, and become a different color combo.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    Do not, I repeat, do not buy a Spark! They are just dismal and think after the newness novelty wears off, you will be totally unhappy. Last one I drove had the front tire explode on the expressway which caused over $1250 in damages to it, front bumper was hanging off and vehicle was undriveable. You want a new vehicle, hey, I get it but, your Soul is still a better vehicle. Be smart, save the money and wait another year, possibly two. Then, get a better vehicle that will keep the wife happy and one you will really enjoy. Think if you really take some time and really think here, you'll come to the same conclusion. Kinda in the same boat as you are. Really like my current ride but...want something different. And by different, leaning towards a 3 Series BMW. Found one a few weeks back, but just couldn't pull the trigger. They now have a one year newer one, great color combo that I really really like because it isn't a very popular combo. Decent price, decent miles. But, still haven't gone for a test drive and as of Friday, still on the lot. But, even though I do like it, the timing's just off. Not to mention the static I'd get from the wife and one of the kids. Can afford it by just writing a check but, my logical side is just saying wait, wait for the right time. As hard as that it, I'm biting the bullet and just going to wait for I know that when the timing is right, I'll find the perfect vehicle and won't hesitate to pull the trigger. And I won't look back, like a couple years ago when I traded into the Golf. The Sandman :)B)
    You do know that the exploding tire has no relation to the fact it was a Spark, right?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    well, it finally happened. Was surfing around looking at houses online, and found the perfect place. I kept saying I wanted a huge garage with a minimal living space attached. Well, apparently, someone actually built it. Awesome bachelor pad (would have to be, because no way in Hades my wife would go for it!)

    some nice cars too, but I don't think they are included.

    I assume there is enough land to build more house if you want it!

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/616-Corner-Ketch-Rd_Newark_DE_19711_M68874-90919#photo0

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,843
    stickguy said:
    this one is nice. Like the equipment. Price seems OK for a 2014, but that obviously reflects the steep miles. Probably still too high, but as always, I can never judge that. Probably need to drop a couple grand more to make it worth while. Oh, and become a different color combo. http://www.eimports4less.com/detail-2014-bmw-3_series-certified_320i_xdrive_awd_sport_package_navigation-used-15881302.html
    I like the equipment on that. All it needs are xenons or LED headlights. 
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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,229
    Of course, mine happened to have a bad tire. But overall, the Spark is just dismal and think they'll be very unhappy within a very short time. My opinion, but since we both seem to prefer smaller vehicles, just trying to give some advice as I've driven a number of these, brand new ones with the plastic still on the seats, and it was really an awful experience each and every time! Their current Soul is just so much better!!!
    Saw some pics of the new Mini Countryman and really like it. Of course the "S" model is my first choice which is at the top of the price range but, I do plan to get exactly what I want next time and keep it for a longer period of time. Have also read that VW is coming out with a new smaller vehicle, a smaller Tiguan, which would be very appealing. Think I'd go with a new VW over a Mini only if the ride is somewhat better. And if it will ride as well as my current Golf, would be a no-brainer as I think we'll still be in our current house for at least another 5 or so years. So I will still need a vehicle no bigger than 185" or so, which cuts down on the available choices to pick from. Such is life I guess!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    stickguy said:
    this one is nice. Like the equipment. Price seems OK for a 2014, but that obviously reflects the steep miles. Probably still too high, but as always, I can never judge that. Probably need to drop a couple grand more to make it worth while. Oh, and become a different color combo. http://www.eimports4less.com/detail-2014-bmw-3_series-certified_320i_xdrive_awd_sport_package_navigation-used-15881302.html
    I like that car.  Especially for $17K.  Sport Seats are a plus.  Might be a good candidate for one of those warranty voiding chips that seem to be all the rage these days.  I wonder if it has the adaptive suspension.  Anyway to tell @roadburner?

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    I was up in @explorerx4 neck of the woods this weekend for a hockey tournament for my 10 year old son.  Before I left on Friday, the carpeting was laid down and my basement (after getting flooded back in November).

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    @nyccarguy - looks good!

    Well, our kitchen is finished. What an ordeal.

    Monday, the installer was here about an hour - dropped off most of the materials, but had to go to the other side of town to get the rest of the materials and his tools. We agreed that he would show up around 8 on Tuesday.

    Tuesday, no installer. Called our salesperson, called the state level project manager. Never found out why, but the original installed won't be completing my job. Project manager scrambles to find replacement installers (they're subcontractors).

    Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, the installer and his brother work 9-5. Decent progress is made.

    Today, they were here from 9-8 to wrap everything up. My wife, who "doesn't do installation" was gone for the day (two movies, shopping, lunch, hair appointment). Which meant that yours truly, who's not allowed within 10 miles of a design decision, didn't notice when the wrong hardware was installed on the drawers (knobs instead of handles) and the doors above the microwave and refrigerator (handles instead of knobs). Wife comes home, chaos ensues.

    Project manager should call Monday to develop a plan to get everything fixed (there was an incorrectly sized drawer face, as well, that needs to be replaced).

    I'll take and post pictures in the morning, when it's light out.

    To be continued ....

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    sandman, yes, I hear you. Actually, the pursuit of the Chevy Spark is, like the pursuit of the Scion iA from the late spring of 2016, a labor of love from earlier. Honestly I don't know how the '17 Chevy Spark will drive just yet. Might just need ta score a test drive. 

    You are driving me to be even more curious about it, though. A spike in work hours has me thinking different automotive options.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    stickguy said:

    well, it finally happened. Was surfing around looking at houses online, and found the perfect place. I kept saying I wanted a huge garage with a minimal living space attached. Well, apparently, someone actually built it. Awesome bachelor pad (would have to be, because no way in Hades my wife would go for it!)

    some nice cars too, but I don't think they are included.

    I assume there is enough land to build more house if you want it!

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/616-Corner-Ketch-Rd_Newark_DE_19711_M68874-90919#photo0

    Build your whole living space on the 2nd floor, and put in an elevator? Weird.

    But, I'd live there.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    @iluvmysephia1 - I think the point many of us are trying to make is that "different" does not always equate to "better".

    Your Soul is a pretty nice car. Yes, it's a few years old, has some miles on it, and may be lacking in some the features newer cars have. But, it's a good size and very versatile for a one car family, like yours.

    But, getting new for the sake of new seems like a step backward, especially with the Spark and the Versa. I'll admit I have not sat in or driven either of those two, but I did sit in the iA and was pretty impressed with the level of equipment available in a car of that price. And, given that's its a Mazda underneath, I'm fairly confident when I say it will likely be a blast to drive. Spark and Versa? Competent might be all I'll admit to.

    I get the need for wanting something new - heck, that's why this forum exists. We all want something new, or different (just ask @breld!), but we don't want you to have a major case of buyer's remorse.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    stickguy said:

    well, it finally happened. Was surfing around looking at houses online, and found the perfect place. I kept saying I wanted a huge garage with a minimal living space attached. Well, apparently, someone actually built it. Awesome bachelor pad (would have to be, because no way in Hades my wife would go for it!)

    some nice cars too, but I don't think they are included.

    I assume there is enough land to build more house if you want it!

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/616-Corner-Ketch-Rd_Newark_DE_19711_M68874-90919#photo0


    As a single guy, a house like that virtually guarantees you would stay single as long as you lived there.

    Having said that, before I bought my current place I looked at a building lot and considered doing something similar. The difference was that the lot was on a slope so the wall of garage doors would be on the low side and from the other side it would look like a typical house. Likely somewhat more acceptable. That one just looks like a garage with a loft above. I actually met a guy once who had something like that. Rich land developer who also had a car addiction. He invited a group of us to visit one day. He had the big neoclassic mansion but adjacent to it had a 2-storey, 8 (or was it 10?) bay garage with the upstairs being his hideaway. It was a huge space up there with a nicely furnished full living area, kitchen, one big bedroom, and baths both up and down. He said sometimes when he was out tinkering the time got away from him and his wife preferred not to be awakened, so he would spend nights there. Whatever works I guess.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    Here are the after pictures of the kitchen:




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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    stickguy said:
    well, it finally happened. Was surfing around looking at houses online, and found the perfect place. I kept saying I wanted a huge garage with a minimal living space attached. Well, apparently, someone actually built it. Awesome bachelor pad (would have to be, because no way in Hades my wife would go for it!) some nice cars too, but I don't think they are included. I assume there is enough land to build more house if you want it! http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/616-Corner-Ketch-Rd_Newark_DE_19711_M68874-90919#photo0
    Nice. Of course, I'd prefer much more property. Also seems to be quite overpriced. My guess is Mr Bachelor has met his Bachelorette and is reluctant to give up his home and has priced it accordingly. ;)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    Looks nice Michael. Though I would have put knobs on the doors too.

    sadly, that is a tough fix since you will have an extra hole to fill/paint over. But, I'm sure they know how to deal with it.

    Me, I would ask for some $ credited back and live with it. Good luck selling that to your wife.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    Looks fantastic @Michaell

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    Much better than the "before" pics, @Michaell . The hardware issue is vexing. It would be better I think to have pulls on the drawers instead of those knobs. But that means the fronts all have to come off to fix the holes and respray. I would leave the upper cabinet pulls alone.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,596
    stickguy said:

    well, it finally happened. Was surfing around looking at houses online, and found the perfect place. I kept saying I wanted a huge garage with a minimal living space attached. Well, apparently, someone actually built it. Awesome bachelor pad (would have to be, because no way in Hades my wife would go for it!)

    some nice cars too, but I don't think they are included.

    I assume there is enough land to build more house if you want it!

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/616-Corner-Ketch-Rd_Newark_DE_19711_M68874-90919#photo0

    If I was single that house would have my name on it with a garage full of cars and toys. I wonder how hard it will be to sell it as it will have to find a special kind of buyer.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    Last week I started shopping for some stuff for the renovated downstairs space. One of those things was a cheap TV/entertainment stand. I found what seemed to be a good choice at a good price at Walmart online, not available in stores. The order was painless and they promised it to arrive on Thursday. It actually came on Wednesday so that was good. On Friday I decided to assemble it. Opened up the box and there was no hardware at all, not even one screw or washer. I called the supplier as the instructions said and the lady on the other end said I was the second person this week with that same problem, both of us buying from Walmart. Not sure if that means anything or not. She said the hardware package would be shipped direct to me from a California branch of their operation. Cripes!

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,596
    Michaell said:

    Here are the after pictures of the kitchen:




    What a struggle. We had similar challenges when we did a partial refresh of our kitchen
    two years ago. I think we will move to a house that needs nothing next time. I like the look of your remodel.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,596
    nyccarguy said:


    It's amazing how long a project or repair can be drawn out. I know you are relieved to have it almost done. It looks crisp, clean and modern. Very nice!

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,075
    Kitchen re-do looks great, @Michaell!
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    Thanks, everyone. We wanted the same handles that you see on the doors to be on the drawers, as well. They'd have to order a new drawer fronts. I think we will just live with it. It's not the end of the world.

    Wife is (reasonably) happy with the end result. Now, to put everything back - not my job, thankfully, as there is noise that things may go back in different places.

    I'm leaving the house to run errands - I've got major cabin fever after this last week.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    I like that garage/house, I would live there. Sadly, in my area it would cost 100% more, and as I am single without familial assistance, I can't swing an 800K mortgage B)
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,843
    fintail said:
    I like that garage/house, I would live there. Sadly, in my area it would cost 100% more, and as I am single without familial assistance, I can't swing an 800K mortgage B)
    That house would go way more than $800k in your area unless you put it in Snohomish or down towards Federal Way. 
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    Michaell said:

    Thanks, everyone. We wanted the same handles that you see on the doors to be on the drawers, as well. They'd have to order a new drawer fronts. I think we will just live with it. It's not the end of the world.

    Maybe make it sound like it's a big deal, try to pry something extra out of the contractor. "My wife finally agreed to live with the mistake you guys made but now she wants a new backsplash. I think you guys should pay for that since it's your fault." Something like that. ;)

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,934
    @michaell - make sure you and the wife are not only content, but happy with the handles.  You may be dazzled by the overall effect right now, but after a while, you may find yourself wishing you had the original ones picked out.  

    Now's the time to make the fuss.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    my experience with those types of mistakes is that after a short time, you stop noticing. At least I do. Entirely possible that a wife would hold onto the pain and let it fester!

    SDA, I was discussing SC with someone today. The people adopting our foster came down to meet him again and make sure they wanted him. thankfully he decided to make friends and suck them in finally, so they signed the papers and paid the fee. But, they are going on vacation in a few days for a week, so we are babysitting until the 18th.

    anyway, to get to the point (sorry Driver!), we asked where they were going, and seems they now have a 2nd house in SC, and are going down to do work on it. I heard the name of the town (starts with W) but can't remember it. 60 miles from Georgia border, and 1/2 hour from Clemson I think. Probably an extremely pretty area, but I suspect a whole lotta nuttin out there. Might be Walhalla. someplace near there.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    Price dropped on the G37x.  From $22K to $21.8K.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    another 10 price drops and might have something cooking.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    I'll be calling the PM tomorrow. Found another error - we have tilt out drawers under our sink to hold sponges, etc.

    except there aren't any bins in them. Sigh.

    Yes, I'll be pushing for some sort of adjustment.

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