Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

Ky, that cab with a short bed, I might be able to deal with.

I owned one PU for about a year. 1990 Nissan. xtra cab (the one with jump seats) and normal bed (only came 1 size). easy to drive because the cab was car like, but a pain to back up with the tailgate raised. Was probably no longer than the Odyssey.

OK, just checked. Dang. That truck was only 190" long, and 65" wide. Actually shorter than my Sonata, and probably 10" narrower than our RDX. Explains why I had no problem fitting it into the garage!

kyfdx

I think the bed on the one I'm driving is 6'4", and @qbrozen might be 5'6"?

You don't see many 8' beds, except on regular cab XL models.

No way I could get this one into my garage, regularly

stickguy

If I ever went nuts and got one, it would have to live outside.

Michaell

Collector car value? Yay or nay?

http://jalopnik.com/one-of-you-nutjobs-will-actually-pay-125-000-for-this-1796256686

qbrozen

Yes, 5.5' bed.

Overall length is 232" per Ford. No way in hell can it fit in my garage, so now I have an unused garage bay.

Their curb weight table online is screwed up but they show 4560 lb for the 2wd version of mine and 4782 for 4wd with 6.5' bed. So it is somewhere in between those two numbers. Weight is almost exactly the same as wife's minivan but about 2.5 feet longer. Ford really did a heck of a job keeping the weight down.

If only they could apply their learnings to the rest of their lineup. Dropping 400 lb from the Mustang would probably make it competitive with the new Camaro without having to add power.

suydam

unusual to get 2wd. Is that common where you live? 

ab348

Yesterday I saw a mid-to-late '90s F-150 (the first sort of curvy one) that was a regular cab and short bed, probably 6' or so. It looked so small I did a double-take. Don't remember seeing them when new.

js06gv

Trucks are huge these days. My 1995 Silverado extended cab seemed big at the time, but would look small parked next to my current F-150 Supercrew. One benefit that many probably don't realize until climbing into one is the rear seat legroom. It is absolutely limo-like and has more space than anything else I can think of.

corvette

qbrozen said:

..so now I have an unused garage bay. 

What are you going to fill it up with? 

fintail

At 50K, a very possible Yay. At 125K, nay.

If I had money burning a hole in my pocket and ample storage, I would sock one of these away - but I think you can get very nice ones for 50K.

Michaell said:

Collector car value? Yay or nay?

http://jalopnik.com/one-of-you-nutjobs-will-actually-pay-125-000-for-this-1796256686

qbrozen

suydam said:

unusual to get 2wd. Is that common where you live? 

Mine is not 2wd. Common? No, not around here.

ab348

js06gv said:

Trucks are huge these days. My 1995 Silverado extended cab seemed big at the time, but would look small parked next to my current F-150 Supercrew. One benefit that many probably don't realize until climbing into one is the rear seat legroom. It is absolutely limo-like and has more space than anything else I can think of.

Hard to find a pic of one of those '97 F-150s with the regular cab and short bed but this is as close as I could get. The one I saw was 2WD so it sat lower. Almost mistook it for a Ranger, it seemed so small.

roadburner

Michaell said:

Collector car value? Yay or nay?

http://jalopnik.com/one-of-you-nutjobs-will-actually-pay-125-000-for-this-1796256686

Yes, $50k is all the money; that said, finding a decent one is getting more difficult with each passing day.

breld

Q - nice truck! I really like it.

@jpp5862 - it'll be fun car shopping/looking over the next several months. I really like the looks of the new CX-5, but it doesn't surprise me that you found the power underwhelming. Coming from the Touareg, I think you may have a tough time switching to a compact non-luxury SUV. Everyone seems to like the new X1, so that may be a good option.

@michaell - if you did like the Mazda6, seems as though you can find a lightly used one with a manual for a steal. I really like it at first, but last time I had one as a loaner (automatic of course) I was underwhelmed. Personally, I may choose an Accord Sport over the 6 at this point (and certainly when the new Accord comes out - Honda will be releasing more info on July 14th).

I've been racking the miles up on the Durango - had the Albuquerque trip a couple weekends ago; went up to Steamboat Springs impromptu for a couple baseball games for my older boy this past Saturday (about 3.5 hours each way all on Saturday); and we're going down to Mesa Verde National Park in a couple weeks for fun roadtrip - we're staying in...Durango, CO. Oooh! Weird.

graphicguy

fintail said:

At 50K, a very possible Yay. At 125K, nay.

If I had money burning a hole in my pocket and ample storage, I would sock one of these away - but I think you can get very nice ones for 50K.

Michaell said:

Collector car value? Yay or nay?

http://jalopnik.com/one-of-you-nutjobs-will-actually-pay-125-000-for-this-1796256686

Fin...you're being kinder than me. I do think it's collectible. But, it would take well after my bones turn to ash to recoup that $125K. I was thinking $35K-$40K, given it's mileage.

suydam

qbrozen said:

suydam said:

unusual to get 2wd. Is that common where you live? 

Mine is not 2wd. Common? No, not around here.

Oh sorry. I thought you said it was. 4wd is so much more sensible (and easier to justify on grounds of needing a bad weather vehicle!).

breld

Seems like these things come in waves, but there are a few BMWs that have caught our eye:

'01 M3 'vert - low miles

Manual 435xi

E90 wagon - manual

These are all local to us - weird to have a selection of nice used manual beemers.

I really like that Laguna Blue M3 - 39k miles is crazy low, but $25k still seems a bit dear. But I could see the seller getting it if the right person comes along (me?). I imagine a coupe would be gone quickly - the convertible is a harder sell isn't it?

My wife is encouraging me on the 435 as a replacement for both the GTI and Clubman. Either way we'll eventually go down one car, but for now the smartest thing would be to simply sell the Clubman.

And the wagon? It's tempting - M-sport would be better, but a sport manual wagon is still a treasure. The 78k miles is not bad, but it'd be much more tempting with less miles - especially at that price.

qbrozen

435 seller is shooting high. Given what I'm seeing (fully debadged gives me pause), I'd say $31k is about it.

Sandman6472

Q, a bit confused. You now have 5 vehicles for 2 drivers, correct? Would hate to have your insurance bills! I would love an extra vehicle just to have the flexibility but at this point, staying the course.

The Sandman

qbrozen

sandman_6472 said:

Q, a bit confused. You now have 5 vehicles for 2 drivers, correct? Would hate to have your insurance bills! I would love an extra vehicle just to have the flexibility but at this point, staying the course.

The Sandman

Nope. Infiniti was traded on the F150. Still 4 vehicles.

Sandman6472

Do some get driven more than others as assume three are owned outright while one is a lease. Or maybe two are on lease, just don't remember. Could see having an extra if leasing to keep the miles down on the lease.

The Sandman

fintail

We'll need some malaise era high inflation for about 15 years to get it to 125K, yeah.

If I had 50K burning a hole in my pocket, had no other hobby cars to pour it into, and had a place to put it, I would pay that for a mint low mileage TT Supra, but I want it blue with a targa top. Miles would likely remain low, as I might be a little leery driving it - few cars say "steal me" like one of these.

graphicguy said:

Fin...you're being kinder than me. I do think it's collectible. But, it would take well after my bones turn to ash to recoup that $125K. I was thinking $35K-$40K, given it's mileage.

stickguy

Q you list of cars on posts is out of date. Still shows Infiniti and Volvo.

So does your wife drive the LR, and the minivan sits? You seem to have an imbalance. Too many large utility trucks, and not enough small or fun cars!

Mr_Shiftright

Michaell said:

Collector car value? Yay or nay?

http://jalopnik.com/one-of-you-nutjobs-will-actually-pay-125-000-for-this-1796256686

About 1/2 that price would be more than generous. Collectible? Yes. Worth $125K? Maybe in some future Gilded Age.

roadburner

I'm not remotely interested in one, but the Cadillac store in our dealer group is offering a 2017 ATS-V lease that sounds way too good to be true: $509/ month, 10K/year, 39 months, 0 due at signing. Cap Cost: $68,285.

qbrozen

ha. yeah, lots of heavy iron in the fleet at the moment.
Minivan does sit a good bit. Mostly used for weekend jaunts.

kyfdx

suydam said:

unusual to get 2wd. Is that common where you live? 

The one I'm driving is 2WD, and very rare around here. My friend was looking for a replacement for his '96 model, which was regular cab, V-8, 2WD. I talked him out of the V-8, first, then he realized that all the regular cabs were stripper work trucks. Never could talk him out of RWD.

You just can't tell those 65 yr old kids anything.

roadburner

breld said:

Seems like these things come in waves, but there are a few BMWs that have caught our eye:

'01 M3 'vert - low miles

Manual 435xi

E90 wagon - manual

These are all local to us - weird to have a selection of nice used manual beemers.

I really like that Laguna Blue M3 - 39k miles is crazy low, but $25k still seems a bit dear. But I could see the seller getting it if the right person comes along (me?). I imagine a coupe would be gone quickly - the convertible is a harder sell isn't it?

My wife is encouraging me on the 435 as a replacement for both the GTI and Clubman. Either way we'll eventually go down one car, but for now the smartest thing would be to simply sell the Clubman.

And the wagon? It's tempting - M-sport would be better, but a sport manual wagon is still a treasure. The 78k miles is not bad, but it'd be much more tempting with less miles - especially at that price.

I like the 435i xDrive- although I'd much prefer it in RWD. It's optioned pretty well; add the M Performance Power Kit and it would REALLY be a blast!

corvette

kyfdx said:

unusual to get 2wd. Is that common where you live? 

The one I'm driving is 2WD, and very rare around here. My friend was looking for a replacement for his '96 model, which was regular cab, V-8, 2WD. I talked him out of the V-8, first, then he realized that all the regular cabs were stripper work trucks. Never could talk him out of RWD.

You just can't tell those 65 yr old kids anything.

My neighbor bought an extended cab 4WD with the V8 and it seems fine to me, but I've never driven the Ecoboost. 

breld

qbrozen said:

435 seller is shooting high. Given what I'm seeing (fully debadged gives me pause), I'd say $31k is about it.

Huh - I was thinking the 435 was actually the most reasonably priced. Not the cheapest of course, but just the closest to real world pricing. Hard to nail down a "reasonable" price for the 39k mile E46 M3 and a manual sport wagon.

If the pricing on that 435 does indeed start dropping closer to your estimated $31k, that would make a decision easier for sure. I'll keep an eye on it.

breld

roadburner said:

breld said:

Seems like these things come in waves, but there are a few BMWs that have caught our eye:

'01 M3 'vert - low miles

Manual 435xi

E90 wagon - manual

These are all local to us - weird to have a selection of nice used manual beemers.

I really like that Laguna Blue M3 - 39k miles is crazy low, but $25k still seems a bit dear. But I could see the seller getting it if the right person comes along (me?). I imagine a coupe would be gone quickly - the convertible is a harder sell isn't it?

My wife is encouraging me on the 435 as a replacement for both the GTI and Clubman. Either way we'll eventually go down one car, but for now the smartest thing would be to simply sell the Clubman.

And the wagon? It's tempting - M-sport would be better, but a sport manual wagon is still a treasure. The 78k miles is not bad, but it'd be much more tempting with less miles - especially at that price.

I like the 435i xDrive- although I'd much prefer it in RWD. It's optioned pretty well; add the M Performance Power Kit and it would REALLY be a blast!

For my purposes, I wouldn't be against RWD either, though resale here in CO would suffer.

nyccarguy

breld said:

roadburner said:

breld said:

Seems like these things come in waves, but there are a few BMWs that have caught our eye:

'01 M3 'vert - low miles

Manual 435xi

E90 wagon - manual

These are all local to us - weird to have a selection of nice used manual beemers.

I really like that Laguna Blue M3 - 39k miles is crazy low, but $25k still seems a bit dear. But I could see the seller getting it if the right person comes along (me?). I imagine a coupe would be gone quickly - the convertible is a harder sell isn't it?

My wife is encouraging me on the 435 as a replacement for both the GTI and Clubman. Either way we'll eventually go down one car, but for now the smartest thing would be to simply sell the Clubman.

And the wagon? It's tempting - M-sport would be better, but a sport manual wagon is still a treasure. The 78k miles is not bad, but it'd be much more tempting with less miles - especially at that price.

I like the 435i xDrive- although I'd much prefer it in RWD. It's optioned pretty well; add the M Performance Power Kit and it would REALLY be a blast!

For my purposes, I wouldn't be against RWD either, though resale here in CO would suffer.

That would be a great story:

BMW Service Department: Hi Mr @breld. Your 435i Coupe has had it's ///M Performance Power Kit installed and is readay for pickup.

@breld: That won't be necessary. Can you bring the car over to your used car lot? I just traded it in.

BMW Service Department: Are you sure? According to our records, you've only owned the car since the middle of June. It is July 4th weekend!

@breld: I know. I have owned this one for quite a while

xwesx

ab348 said:

js06gv said:

Trucks are huge these days. My 1995 Silverado extended cab seemed big at the time, but would look small parked next to my current F-150 Supercrew. One benefit that many probably don't realize until climbing into one is the rear seat legroom. It is absolutely limo-like and has more space than anything else I can think of.

Hard to find a pic of one of those '97 F-150s with the regular cab and short bed but this is as close as I could get. The one I saw was 2WD so it sat lower. Almost mistook it for a Ranger, it seemed so small.

And, that one isn't even a long bed. This is the 6.5'.

jpp75

breld said:

Q - nice truck! I really like it.

@jpp5862 - it'll be fun car shopping/looking over the next several months. I really like the looks of the new CX-5, but it doesn't surprise me that you found the power underwhelming. Coming from the Touareg, I think you may have a tough time switching to a compact non-luxury SUV. Everyone seems to like the new X1, so that may be a good option.

@michaell - if you did like the Mazda6, seems as though you can find a lightly used one with a manual for a steal. I really like it at first, but last time I had one as a loaner (automatic of course) I was underwhelmed. Personally, I may choose an Accord Sport over the 6 at this point (and certainly when the new Accord comes out - Honda will be releasing more info on July 14th).

I've been racking the miles up on the Durango - had the Albuquerque trip a couple weekends ago; went up to Steamboat Springs impromptu for a couple baseball games for my older boy this past Saturday (about 3.5 hours each way all on Saturday); and we're going down to Mesa Verde National Park in a couple weeks for fun roadtrip - we're staying in...Durango, CO. Oooh! Weird.

You'll have to do some test drives with us, you would have appreciated the wonky sales guy.

I agree with you on the Touareg, I've often thought I would have a hard time finding anything I liked as much as it and so far that seems to be true. It's certainly fun to look though!

Durango is on my list of places to explore sometime when I can get a couple of days away from work, lots of great places to explore here for sure.

28firefighter

@roadburner I have a genius related question for you on the 2016 X1. When we first got the car and my and I configured our respective seat/mirror settings, the car would adjust for each of us as soon as we unlocked the car depending on whose key was by the driver's door.

This seems to have stopped completely and now I need to use the memory seat buttons. Its not a huge deal, but for the life of me cannot figure out what changed. Neither of us has been messing around with those settings at all.

Any idea where we can look to fix it?

tbirdmarco

@breld man you have bin doing a lot of trips very nice!

tbirdmarco

@breld no you will have an nother new toy and sell one soon!

andres3

28firefighter said:

Not where we live, either. Plus my wife's (and my own) earning ability far outstrip the cost of childcare, so fiscally it doesn't make sense for one of us to stay home. I'd love to be able to make that business case. 

If you have triplets or twins, the math gets better to not send them all off to childcare.

tbirdmarco

@breld no you will have an nother new toy and sell one soon!

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M7nV6v6AEbs

andres3

pensfan83 said:

Had my test drive of the Fusion earlier today. Once I'm near a keyboard I'll type up my thoughts. Decent car, awesome power, but the handling leaves a lot to be desired.

That's what happens when you make a car out of "iron age" metal materials.

roadburner

28firefighter said:

@roadburner I have a genius related question for you on the 2016 X1. When we first got the car and my and I configured our respective seat/mirror settings, the car would adjust for each of us as soon as we unlocked the car depending on whose key was by the driver's door.

This seems to have stopped completely and now I need to use the memory seat buttons. Its not a huge deal, but for the life of me cannot figure out what changed. Neither of us has been messing around with those settings at all.

Any idea where we can look to fix it?

There's a setting that on the X1 I think is under "Doors/Keys" in the "Vehicle Setting" menu- "Last Seat Position Automatic" make sure that box is checked for both profiles(keys). You can also open the car with one key and go to "Profiles" (also under "Settings") and note which profile of the top two on the list is checked- switch to the other one and see if anything changes.

28firefighter

ah hah - interesting. I'll try that! I know the Last Seat Position Automatic button is checked for sure, but I bet that profile thing is the problem.

sda

qbrozen said:

Thanks!

Yes, shorty. I ain't that crazy.

Very nice XLT. What is the progress report on the Coronet? pics?

roadburner

28firefighter said:

ah hah - interesting. I'll try that! I know the Last Seat Position Automatic button is checked for sure, but I bet that profile thing is the problem.

The profile function is nice but it can be infuriating if all you have to depend on is the owners manual.

breld

I'm guessing the lime green doesn't sway those of you who dislike the current Civic?

28firefighter

breld said:

I'm guessing the lime green doesn't sway those of you who dislike the current Civic?

Ooof

stickguy

Yours now?

kyfdx

stickguy said:

Yours now?

Can't be... hasn't contacted me about the GTI..

pensfan83

Yeeesh...if I didn't before I sure don't now