Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

tbirdmarco

@tjc78 lollollol

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice nice we shall see what that dealer comes back with to as whell!

Michaell

tjc78 said:

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

I probably should try the one car deal. Just pretty sure it would be short lived.

will wait to see if I get a too good to pass up offer this week on a Jetta. If not, can wait until month end and try again. Not like I need a 3rd car here for the next month!

One reason to go cheap cheap cheap of course is a year from now, can start working on the wife to upgrade her car instead. If she gets tired of riding around in a Jetta!

My wife is not a big fan of the Jetta - she's uncomfortable riding in it.

When - or if - I replace it, I'll have to get her to ride along to see if she's comfortable.

My wife is funny about our Elantra.   She likes to drive it (wishes it had a better stereo) but hates to ride in it.  Kinda weird.  Last night we were driving back from the shore (in the Elantra) and I mentioned next time I want something a little bigger and she mentioned a second SUV... “a smaller one (like your Moms, RAV4)”. I quickly sure if that’s gonna be your car and replace the Enclave. That conversation ended quickly.  

You need to update your signature line!

kyfdx

Member needs advice:
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Mr_Shiftright

stickguy said:

can you imagine driving that on a CA freeway? Might be relegated to the bike lanes.

No, don't do that. Don't ever do that. I suppose if you were on the flats you could survive for a few exits.

tifighter said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I always wanted one of those but they are exceedingly hard to find. Might have to go to Paris.

Well, you could have settled for the Panhard parked near it-


But I know it doesn't have the same connection for you.

True, but that Panhard is also an interesting car!

ab348

"Hi, NAPA? I need a Panhard rod. What kind of vehicle? For my Panhard, of course. Hello? Hello?"

Mr_Shiftright

Well in that case you'd join the POCA (Panhard Owners Club of America)--- I just made that up, by the way.

I'm sure there is some squirrelly little guy somewhere who has a garage full of old used Panhard parts.

pensfan83

Michaell said:

I was fortunate enough to have lunch with @kyfdx on Wednesday while I was in Cincinnati. Was talking about my plan to not replace the Jetta when the lease was up, then get something fancy (CPO lux brand) when the Subaru was paid off.

He suggested that I should take the payment savings from the Jetta and put it towards the Subaru loan.

Brilliant! That way, I'd only have to live without a vehicle for about a year, rather than 18 months.

I convinced my wife, after she was smitten with the MB SUV's, that our best course of action is to also bank our savings from the Nissan once it's paid off in June until at least 2019. We already know we're likely going with an SUV and we'll probably look at a CPO lux brand as well.

tjc78

Michaell said:

tjc78 said:

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

I probably should try the one car deal. Just pretty sure it would be short lived.

will wait to see if I get a too good to pass up offer this week on a Jetta. If not, can wait until month end and try again. Not like I need a 3rd car here for the next month!

One reason to go cheap cheap cheap of course is a year from now, can start working on the wife to upgrade her car instead. If she gets tired of riding around in a Jetta!

My wife is not a big fan of the Jetta - she's uncomfortable riding in it.

When - or if - I replace it, I'll have to get her to ride along to see if she's comfortable.

My wife is funny about our Elantra.   She likes to drive it (wishes it had a better stereo) but hates to ride in it.  Kinda weird.  Last night we were driving back from the shore (in the Elantra) and I mentioned next time I want something a little bigger and she mentioned a second SUV... “a smaller one (like your Moms, RAV4)”. I quickly sure if that’s gonna be your car and replace the Enclave. That conversation ended quickly.  

You need to update your signature line!

Forgot all about that ! Done!

Michaell

Well, fall seems to have lasted about a week here in Colorado.

About 6" of snow is predicted - starts tonight, ending tomorrow afternoon.

The Outback OEM Bridgestones are pretty much used up after 22,000 miles, and it's likely time to get them replaced.

I've started to do some research (daughter is driving this week, and the MINI got new tires a year ago).

So many choices - passenger tires, SUV tires, dedicated winter tires, etc.

All I know is that I don't want to get the OEM tires again.

Not soliciting advice here, just needing to vent. But, feel free to contribute, anyway.

iluvmysephia1

The Outback OEM Bridgestones are pretty much used up after 22,000 miles, and it's likely time to get them replaced.

Yikes - that's quickly for wearing out, man.

suydam

iluvmysephia1 said:

The Outback OEM Bridgestones are pretty much used up after 22,000 miles, and it's likely time to get them replaced.

Yikes - that's quickly for wearing out, man.

It sure is! Even for a new car.

ab348

That's been my experience with most of the new cars I've had. Even if a reputable make/model of tire, it seems they just wear out quickly. Perhaps the tire mfrs produce a different tire with the same name for OEMs.

FWIW, I had a set of Michelin X-Ice tires on the Regal that I would happily have driven on 12 months a year. Quiet, good ride and handling, excellent in the winter, better than the Pilots that came on it.

stickguy

IIRC subaru owners have hated the Bridgestone they used for years. My sons 2014 Jetta had them too, and were pretty mediocre.

tjc78

I had Bridgestone Turanza EL400 on my 2006 Avalon. Bald at 27K. What a crappy tire.

Michaell

I'll be curious if the Ecopia's on my Jetta will last my lease, even with the small number of miles I am putting on it.

roadburner

iluvmysephia1 said:

The Outback OEM Bridgestones are pretty much used up after 22,000 miles, and it's likely time to get them replaced.

Yikes - that's quickly for wearing out, man.

I got over 32K miles out of the OEM Michelin PSS tires on my 2 Series- and that included 3 HPDE days as well as one Test and Tune night at the local 1/8 mile drag strip.
No complaints here...

tjc78

I love Michelin tires, I've never had a problem with any of them. The Michelins on my 04 Grand Marquis has 50000 miles and still were no where near the wear bars

28firefighter

I've heard great things about the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I also have the Continental ExtremeContact DWS on the GTI which I absolutely love.

The Contis seem well suited to the GTI because it helps mitigate a lot of the GTI's overwhelming desire to spin its front wheels on wet roads if you try and take off too aggressively.

ab348

tjc78 said:

I love Michelin tires, I've never had a problem with any of them. The Michelins on my 04 Grand Marquis has 50000 miles and still were no where near the wear bars

Same here, nothing but excellent experiences and they are always my first choice. I am tempted to say I'm a Michelin man but don't want to open myself up for jokes that I resemble Bibendum.

au1994

The X6 has Pirelli Verde (?) as the stock tires. They’ve got about 19k on them now and will not make it past 25k. Agree on Michelin’s and will look there for replacements. 

Michaell

au1994 said:

The X6 has Pirelli Verde (?) as the stock tires. They’ve got about 19k on them now and will not make it past 25k. Agree on Michelin’s and will look there for replacements. 

Verde is Spanish for "Green" - guessing it's some sort of Eco tire.

iluvmysephia1

The 2017 Subaru Impreza 2.0i is trod with Continental 16" tires. The tire and pop-on hubcap look good to me but the car really looks better in 18" tires and wheels.

pensfan83

The Goodyear Eagle RS-A's were gone on my Fusion at roughly 18K miles and the Pirelli Cinturatos on the A4 were done at around 20K miles. The Pirelli's were fine for handling but treadwear wasn't their strong suit. I replaced them with a set of Continentals and they were well suited for the car. Sadly I only drove on them for about 9 months before I turned the car in

iluvmysephia1

As you pan down on that 2018 Subaru Impreza 2.0i rear view of the same car, note that the taillights bulb out in the top shot. In the top shot the viewer is slightly above the taillight assembly.



The above are the 16" Continental's on the 2.0i base model 2018 Subaru Impreza.

au1994

pensfan83 said:

The Goodyear Eagle RS-A's were gone on my Fusion at roughly 18K miles and the Pirelli Cinturatos on the A4 were done at around 20K miles. The Pirelli's were fine for handling but treadwear wasn't their strong suit. I replaced them with a set of Continentals and they were well suited for the car. Sadly I only drove on them for about 9 months before I turned the car in

Awesome. Cinturantos are what is on the X1

Michaell

au1994 said:

pensfan83 said:

The Goodyear Eagle RS-A's were gone on my Fusion at roughly 18K miles and the Pirelli Cinturatos on the A4 were done at around 20K miles. The Pirelli's were fine for handling but treadwear wasn't their strong suit. I replaced them with a set of Continentals and they were well suited for the car. Sadly I only drove on them for about 9 months before I turned the car in

Awesome. Cinturantos are what is on the X1

We put Cinturantos onto the daughter's MINI last year. So far, so good.

pensfan83

From some of the Audi boards I frequent from time to time most folks had seen14K-16K on their OEM Pirelli's. Of course climate, road conditions, driver habits, etc. all play a role too.

The Acura has Michelins and I'm hoping to get through this lease without having to buy a set of tires, or at least pay for the entire cost of replacement. Acura builds in a $750 allowance for excessive wear and tear into their leases. Lease another Acura and it climbs to $1,500, which would more than cover the cost of new tires.

andres3

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

@graphicguy my sister in laws steep dad has an 2006 GTO red with black interior! rode in it once when he got it used back in 2009 got it with 12k on it sad part is I don't think he evan put on 1k in miles on the car since 2009 in all this time he has had it por car. he has muny to spend and keeps that car in the garage and got an cerappy old Sentria to driv to work and has an nother Toyota Carola to drive daly. he also got an infinity g35 all wheel drive few munths before he got the GTO back in 2009 from the auction fully loaded has still under 30k on it no joke not shore on that one how mnny miles he ut on sinc he has had it all these yars! sad for boath cars! he has no kids so hoping my older brotgher gets the GTO one day the guy wont live for ever! told my dad to bye the infinity from him!

If I have a nice car I'm not able to withhold driving it! I can't withstand it.

My TTS already is approaching 18K miles shortly, and I haven't daily driven it since about 8,500 miles. It gets called up for the commute grind about 1-day per week, especially if I had a weekend where I didn't' get to drive it. A true weekend warrior for the most part.

roadburner

28firefighter said:

I've heard great things about the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I also have the Continental ExtremeContact DWS on the GTI which I absolutely love.

The Contis seem well suited to the GTI because it helps mitigate a lot of the GTI's overwhelming desire to spin its front wheels on wet roads if you try and take off too aggressively.

I just put a set of Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires on the ti; so far I've been very impressed. They seem to have about the same level of dry grip as the Dunlop Star Specs that they replaced.

andres3

So I got to drive the "Roval" course at Fontana Speedway for the first time Sunday. It was the Roval mixed with the infield road course, which I don't know the exact length of, but I believe it was about 88 MPH average for a 2 minute lap.

They use transponders to keep accurate lap times. During the last session of the day, they had already collected transponders, so I have a feeling my fastest lap times (probably by a good second), were not recorded. So my fastest recorded lap time was just about 2:01.28.

I was a bit of a chicken on the steep banked portion of the Nascar track. It is just a weird eerie feeling being able to go triple digits on a turn just because you have steep banking on your side. By the last session I hit my high of 140 MPH though on the straighter portion of the oval, and of course didn't hold it for long as that's the point where you have to decide just how fast you trust your down-force to keep you from going into that big wall at the top. I would quickly shave down to 110-120 MPH and that was the fastest I could stomach on the steeply banked portion.

It was a Speed Ventures gig, but there are a lot of scary walls on that track!

andres3

28firefighter said:

I've heard great things about the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I also have the Continental ExtremeContact DWS on the GTI which I absolutely love.

The Contis seem well suited to the GTI because it helps mitigate a lot of the GTI's overwhelming desire to spin its front wheels on wet roads if you try and take off too aggressively.

Spinning front wheels? What's that? AWD convert here!

Maybe @breld has experienced those spinning front wheels in his Type R?

28firefighter

Doesn't bother me in the least now that I have decent tires. I think next go around I'll probably shoot for the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S variant.

xwesx

stickguy said:

this makes absolutely no sense, but I am strangely attracted to this one.

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2008-cadillac-cts-4dr_sedan_rwd_w_slash_1sa-used-16894055.html

It's just your inner old man. There's no shame in it!

tbirdmarco

@andres3 I am with you if you have an nice car! drive drive drive it! glad you had an nice time at the track yesterday!

stickguy

It would tick me off royally if I had to put new tires on a car, just to go vet it back. Thankfully not an issue with the sonata, they still look like new at 21k miles.

pensfan83

I hear you...and I agree, but unfortunately I didn't have much choice. They were around 4/32 at the time the state safety inspection was done last December, passable but pretty much done in terms of grip and traction.

au1994

pensfan83 said:

I hear you...and I agree, but unfortunately I didn't have much choice. They were around 4/32 at the time the state safety inspection was done last December, passable but pretty much done in terms of grip and traction.

Not sure if it’s the same with Audi but with BMWs you have to replace with and OE or equivalent brand. No cheaping out of your just a few months from turn in.

andres3

28firefighter said:

Doesn't bother me in the least now that I have decent tires. I think next go around I'll probably shoot for the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S variant.

It's funny. Having the FWD A3 is what got me to research the hell out of tires, all tires, all brands, all models. I must have read a million user reviews too. I wanted something stickier so I could get more power down to the pavement rather than shedding rubber on the pavement.

pensfan83

The guide they sent for lease turn only notes for Quattro equipped vehicles they must be the same brand, size, and rating.

nyccarguy

Hey guys from the airport in very rainy Atlanta, GA.  I've been here since Saturday AM.  My wife's cousin got married last night.  It was a sweet ceremony and a nice, intimate crowd of maybe 50 people.  Our flight was supposed to take off at 12:08 pm.  It has been delayed due to the weather & now isn't set to depart until 3:02 pm.

I rented a 2016 or 2017 Camry SE.  White with a black cloth interior.  Overall I was impressed with the car.  It rode very smoothly.  The seats were comfortable.  After 31K very rough rental miles, the car was tight as a drum with no squeaks or rattles.  With a V6, this car would be a very enjoyable daily driver.  The 4cyl is far from a powerhouse, but got up to speeds of 75+ without hesitation.  The suspension is definitely more taut than my Legacy.  I paired my phone to the Bluetooth very easily while sitting at a long traffic light.  If I had known I was going to buy snow tires for the Legacy, I might have taken a Camry over the Legacy.

andres3

nyccarguy said:

Hey guys from the airport in very rainy Atlanta, GA.  I've been here since Saturday AM.  My wife's cousin got married last night.  It was a sweet ceremony and a nice, intimate crowd of maybe 50 people.  Our flight was supposed to take off at 12:08 pm.  It has been delayed due to the weather & now isn't set to depart until 3:02 pm.

I rented a 2016 or 2017 Camry SE.  White with a black cloth interior.  Overall I was impressed with the car.  It rode very smoothly.  The seats were comfortable.  After 31K very rough rental miles, the car was tight as a drum with no squeaks or rattles.  With a V6, this car would be a very enjoyable daily driver.  The 4cyl is far from a powerhouse, but got up to speeds of 75+ without hesitation.  The suspension is definitely more taut than my Legacy.  I paired my phone to the Bluetooth very easily while sitting at a long traffic light.  If I had known I was going to buy snow tires for the Legacy, I might have taken a Camry over the Legacy.

The SE Camry is supposed to be the "sport" Camry, hence the tautness.

nyccarguy

@andres3 - I thought the "sporty" Camry was the XSE.

roadburner

au1994 said:

pensfan83 said:

I hear you...and I agree, but unfortunately I didn't have much choice. They were around 4/32 at the time the state safety inspection was done last December, passable but pretty much done in terms of grip and traction.

Not sure if it’s the same with Audi but with BMWs you have to replace with and OE or equivalent brand. No cheaping out of your just a few months from turn in.

I've had several lessees take their BMW to Billy Bob's Coin Laundry, Tanning Salon, and Expert Tire Service for tires before a lease return. All too often the newly installed tires aren't run-flats and as a result the lessee gets dinged for upwards of $1,200. Of course that doesn't apply to M cars as well as newer BMWs that have conventional tires fitted from the factory.

xwesx

Probably the best advice for lessees with RFTs: Buy tires you want to use at the start of your lease, then put the original RFTs on the car prior to turn in!

tbirdmarco

@nyccarguy nice on having an good time at your wifes cusons wedding! and nice rite up on the rental car you all had! had my cusions wedding last night was an tinny bit upstate New York past the Bronks in sleeply hollo terry Town aria that is whair my cusions now wife is from! good time over all! we whent yesterday afternoon since they had the Seromony at an nice state park overlooking the Hutson river! could not see any of that and the nice views lollollollol but was an good time over all. the after party was at an beare making place was a lot of fun and I don't drink beare much anymore had bunch of other drinks and prefer Whine! off from work today back to work tomero! have an safe flight home!

tbirdmarco

hoping next weekand to hit up sum car dealers and sit in an bunch of stuff with one of my cusions! long long over do! my car is still at the shop cumming along sloly! small shop so is y taking so long! and I am not rushing them! car show time is over for this year!

stickguy

nyccarguy said:

@andres3 - I thought the "sporty" Camry was the XSE.

SE is the sporty one, with a little stiffer suspension, and lower profile tires. The XSE is just a luxury version of the SE. Think of an SE as a sporty version of the LE, and XSE as the sporty version of the XLE. Sporty being a relative concept.

corvette

The Tahoe has sprung a leak of windshield washer fluid. It happened right after I used the rear washer, so I suspect the hose blew off near the tank. Took me most of my free time tonight to figure out how to get access to the tank.

stickguy

got some #s back today from one of my dealer contacts. Pretty good offer on a 2018 Elantra sport. MSRP $24,135. Can buy it for $20,500, plus tax and tags. Or $23,000 with 0% financing, a losing proposition.

Can lease it for $266/mo. 36/36000. a total of $1,000 at inception (basically covering 1st, DMV, and a little bit of tax). Not awesome, but respectable.

waiting to hear back from 2 VW dealers to compare. Though at some point, if I decide to go that way, will just wander over to one of them and settle in for a little grinding, and make something happen!