Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

Sandman6472

Marco, I'm from that same area but we lived in Briarcliff Manor, just north of Sleepy Hollow and Tarrytown. Would love to move back there but the price of real estate would kill us. Our house sold last time for $880,000 but it does have a pool now. My folks paid considerably less when we moved in back in the fall of 1957. Westchester is just too pricey for us now with South Florida being very affordable. But I'm about ready to try another part of the country now with some cooler weather and seasons, tired of warm and hot with a couple cool days thrown in there to tease us!

The Sandman

stickguy

I could live year round in Ashville, NC area. that is a good climate, and beautiful area.

stickguy

this seems like it could be a good deal. not even in service for 1 year, and got the TT V6 so plenty speedy. Seems to be reasonably well equipped.

http://www.turnersvilleautomall.com/detail-2017-infiniti-q50-3_0t_premium_awd-used-16744428.html

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice numbers if you wher to buy or lees that car! yes you can do sum Halaging now! if you want to! cant wate to hear what the VW dealer does come back with!

tbirdmarco

@sandman_6472 wow so you used to live not far from there cool! yes the housing prices are way way to much around there now! whair I am is maby bit les but not far off! would love to eventually move sum whair cheeper to as whell but no Florida for me seeing all you have to go threw there with the stormes and extream heat! do any car looking this weekend? have an good rest of the week!

tbirdmarco

@stickguy I am with you on living in NC! eventually want to go and visit Nashvil to as whell and see the Country Musick places that are there! big in to that kind of musick and classic rock!

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice Infinity!

qbrozen

stickguy said:

this seems like it could be a good deal. not even in service for 1 year, and got the TT V6 so plenty speedy. Seems to be reasonably well equipped. http://www.turnersvilleautomall.com/detail-2017-infiniti-q50-3_0t_premium_awd-used-16744428.html

That is only a couple hundred bucks over auction value

kyfdx

stickguy said:

I could live year round in Ashville, NC area. that is a good climate, and beautiful area.

Too much rain.. I'd have to be East of there.

graphicguy

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

this seems like it could be a good deal. not even in service for 1 year, and got the TT V6 so plenty speedy. Seems to be reasonably well equipped.

http://www.turnersvilleautomall.com/detail-2017-infiniti-q50-3_0t_premium_awd-used-16744428.html

That is only a couple hundred bucks over auction value

Q...that's what I was thinking. Why have these dropped in value so much? I got ~$10K more for mine and it was one model year older than this one just 4 months ago.....from a dealer, no less!

stickguy

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

this seems like it could be a good deal. not even in service for 1 year, and got the TT V6 so plenty speedy. Seems to be reasonably well equipped.

http://www.turnersvilleautomall.com/detail-2017-infiniti-q50-3_0t_premium_awd-used-16744428.html

That is only a couple hundred bucks over auction value

Interesting. Still a bit out of my budget range though

pensfan83

stickguy said:

I could live year round in Ashville, NC area. that is a good climate, and beautiful area.

I say the same thing about Raleigh. It's one of a handful of cities we've considered moving to once we're empty nesters.

nyccarguy

sandman_6472 said:

Marco, I'm from that same area but we lived in Briarcliff Manor, just north of Sleepy Hollow and Tarrytown. Would love to move back there but the price of real estate would kill us. Our house sold last time for $880,000 but it does have a pool now. My folks paid considerably less when we moved in back in the fall of 1957. Westchester is just too pricey for us now with South Florida being very affordable. But I'm about ready to try another part of the country now with some cooler weather and seasons, tired of warm and hot with a couple cool days thrown in there to tease us! The Sandman

Sandy - before there price of the real estate killed you, you would literally choke on the taxes.

stickguy

Got a first Jetta #. $23,200 MSRP. Buy for $18,422, or lease for $211/mo. Though should do better since current VW owner. Getting closer!

stickguy

Taxes. Bane of my existence.

28firefighter

What trim level is that for, @stickguy? I would think they can do much better.

iluvmysephia1

When I first read your post, stick guy, I thought it said "Texas, bane of my existence."

stickguy

28firefighter said:

What trim level is that for, @stickguy? I would think they can do much better.

An SE AT. About $5k off is pretty good. Might be some wiggle room in the lease, but still not bad really.

Michaell

stickguy said:

28firefighter said:

What trim level is that for, @stickguy? I would think they can do much better.

An SE AT. About $5k off is pretty good. Might be some wiggle room in the lease, but still not bad really.

I'd say that is darn good, given the additional equipment the 2017 SE has over my 2016 SE.

My lease would have been right around $200/mo, if not for the trade value of the Elantra GT.

stickguy

My target, if I went in person, would be to get below $200. Should be doable in person.

28firefighter

I was thinking sub $200 should do it. Wasn't sure if the sale price for buying was the same as for the lease.

stickguy

Different due to incentives. But below $200 is my trigger point too

pensfan83

That's only another $400 or so...should be reachable.

qbrozen

 So this past weekend marked 16 weeks with the truck. I just did the math and I am pretty much dead on with my yearly allotment of miles. 4600 miles in 16 weeks calculates out to about 14,950/yr.

tjc78

I was just doing the same thing with my Elantra.  It’s almost a year old and still not 6,000 miles out of 10k allowed.  I think I’ll be ok! 

qbrozen

anybody else intrigued by the Continental commercial showing the crazy amount of adjustment on the driver's seat? I want to try one of those out.

tbirdmarco

@nyccarguy yes and the taxes along with the housing prices forgot about that when riting the response to the posting this morning!

tbirdmarco

@qbrozen yes I am want to take an look at one of those soon!

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice numbers on the VW to as whell if you want and that is the car you are in to would go in person! and Hagel! think it is doable for shore!

tjc78

I wonder how many of them actually contribute to real comfort.  There are only so many parts of the seat that can be made to move! 

Mr_Shiftright

I think the Maybach had.....was it 26? settings for the driver's seat. That is very German.

Sandman6472

My twin moved to Ashville but too far west for my tastes. The Davidson/Cornelius area is where I'd like to be but just have to convince the other half. I know hurricanes do come through there but more towards the coast from what I've remembered. But me and Florida have about had it with our romance at this point, doubt I have anymore hurricanes left in me! Honestly, I'm still not 100% back to myself yet, about a month later...still feel like I'm only 3/4 there. A bit irritable and just not behaving like I normally do to be honest, I feel out of sync. And with traveling soon, just want to feel like me again!

The Sandman :@

tbirdmarco

@sandman_6472 we are all hear for you! yes going to take you sum time to be back to your selfe after all you have bin threw have never delt with storms like that. whell we had sandy back hear in 2012 think it was but not like you all get those stormes in Florida! tell the wife you want to go to NC as soon as you can before the next storm! when is the wedding this munth forget when you all are travaling! have an good night off to bed hear work in the morning!

stickguy

so experts (and think you are experts!). Any thoughts on these 2 used cars? And price?

http://www.raffertysubaru.com/used/BMW/2010-BMW-3+Series-Philadelphia-PA-1e5da69f0a0d04fe7162913bd599b056.htm?searchDepth=101:144&utm_campaign=deeplink&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=cars.com

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2009-bmw-3_series-328i-used-16871661.html

roadburner

I like the 2009; much better option set. Average power but very good handling.

stickguy

thanks. A little pricier factoring in the 2 MYs older. But looks nice. Like the colors. Plenty of power for me though. Gotta be faster than a base engine Sonata.

might run up and take a look this week. Need QB to weigh in on the price though! If bought right, should hold value pretty well for a couple of years putting low miles on. I hope.

qbrozen

bad accident in the history of the 2010. Given that, the price is nowhere near reasonable. Maybe a $7k vehicle if repaired right.

'09 seems clean. Manheim pegs it in the high $6k range BUT one with almost identical miles and same color just sold in CA auction for $8k. So price seems fair enough, all things considered.

au1994

stickguy said:

so experts (and think you are experts!). Any thoughts on these 2 used cars? And price? http://www.raffertysubaru.com/used/BMW/2010-BMW-3+Series-Philadelphia-PA-1e5da69f0a0d04fe7162913bd599b056.htm?searchDepth=101:144&utm_campaign=deeplink&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=cars.com http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2009-bmw-3_series-328i-used-16871661.html

I’d ax the 2010 given the accident history. The gray on gray is a pretty color combo.  The drivetrain on the E90 328 is pretty solid.  Some electrical bugaboos can crop up with window switches and the like abs it never hurts to take a good look at the cooling system on an older BMW.  A good Indy shop would do a thorough PPI for you I’m sure. Obviously I love them but as I’m sure you know they can be pricy when things go wrong and around the 80k mark you are going to be looking at some maintenance items if it hasn’t been done already. 

mlevine

I have noticed the past few years that the tires on new cars do not last as long. Even with rotation every 5K or 6 months. Lucky if I get anywhere from 15,000 to 20,000 miles. Often replacement seem to last longer.

xwesx

mlevine said:

I have noticed the past few years that the tires on new cars do not last as long. Even with rotation every 5K or 6 months. Lucky if I get anywhere from 15,000 to 20,000 miles. Often replacement seem to last longer.

True. For most vehicles, they have no incentive to equip with long-lived tires. If anything, they get additional incentives from the tire manufacturers to use the high-treadwear models. Plus, it puts the buyers back in the market for tires much sooner!

benjaminh

My wife's 2013 Accord has c. 45k miles on its original Goodyear tires, and they still look like they have probably a year or two of life left in them. I think the exact replacement tire has a "65,000 mile" tread warranty, and so seems like they are more or less on target.

One puzzling thing is that the OEM Goodyear tires are "V-rated," but looking up the replacement they are only "H-rated." Probably not much of a difference there.....?

But maybe tires for luxury makers are made of higher-performance rubber that wears out more quickly?

benjaminh

Actually, I just found the exact replacement tire, and it is still V-rated.

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andres3

xwesx said:

mlevine said:

I have noticed the past few years that the tires on new cars do not last as long. Even with rotation every 5K or 6 months. Lucky if I get anywhere from 15,000 to 20,000 miles. Often replacement seem to last longer.

True. For most vehicles, they have no incentive to equip with long-lived tires. If anything, they get additional incentives from the tire manufacturers to use the high-treadwear models. Plus, it puts the buyers back in the market for tires much sooner!

What percentage of buyers even make note of the tire brand or model that comes with their OEM brand new car? Probably very low; so the do get "away with it," when they cheap out.

andres3

benjaminh said:

My wife's 2013 Accord has c. 45k miles on its original Goodyear tires, and they still look like they have probably a year or two of life left in them. I think the exact replacement tire has a "65,000 mile" tread warranty, and so seems like they are more or less on target.

One puzzling thing is that the OEM Goodyear tires are "V-rated," but looking up the replacement they are only "H-rated." Probably not much of a difference there.....?

But maybe tires for luxury makers are made of higher-performance rubber that wears out more quickly?

Yes, for some people, tire longevity is of minor concern, but traction, G forces, and braking distances all factor in as much more of a priority. Would hate to rear end someone because I couldn't stop on super hard tires when good tires would have done the job! Of course, it is the driver's responsibility to drive appropriately to the conditions, and hard low traction long lasting tires are a condition to be accounted for!

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice Beamers posted above! gowith the 09 like menny have said above! go and give it an test drive y not!

xwesx

andres3 said:

Yes, for some people, tire longevity is of minor concern, but traction, G forces, and braking distances all factor in as much more of a priority. Would hate to rear end someone because I couldn't stop on super hard tires when good tires would have done the job! Of course, it is the driver's responsibility to drive appropriately to the conditions, and hard low traction long lasting tires are a condition to be accounted for!

Not discounting driver responsibility here.... Long-lasting tires don't equate to low traction. Assurance tires, which rank among the best for "all-season" traction in their category, also have outstanding treadwear characteristics.

mlevine

You can walk around a dealership lot and see different manufacturers tires on the same vehicle. I had a toyota sequoia that had bridgestone tires. Drove another one with Michelin tires. Dealer swapped out bridgestone for Michelin for only a few hundred dollars. Drive much better with Michelin.

stickguy

a few times I have seen that and at least once picked a unit based on the tires. Would also have no problem making swapping wheels a part of the deal (not putting new tires on, actually just switching the wheels and tires from one car to another).

andres3

xwesx said:

andres3 said:

Yes, for some people, tire longevity is of minor concern, but traction, G forces, and braking distances all factor in as much more of a priority. Would hate to rear end someone because I couldn't stop on super hard tires when good tires would have done the job! Of course, it is the driver's responsibility to drive appropriately to the conditions, and hard low traction long lasting tires are a condition to be accounted for!

Not discounting driver responsibility here.... Long-lasting tires don't equate to low traction. Assurance tires, which rank among the best for "all-season" traction in their category, also have outstanding treadwear characteristics.

True, there are exceptions, the Pilot Super Sports are very popular in part because they outlast tires you think would last longer because they have less heat resistance or less traction.

tbirdmarco

@mlevine yes that is so trew! what you did say above! and welcome to the group!