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25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
And really, how much service does a brand new car need anyway?
I hear some private companies are offering more affordable Subscriptions but the vehicles are lease-returns and can be 2-3 years old.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
I could see people here in Bellevue leaving the kayak on year round to look active and exciting, however.
I'd take a $600/month subscription, all in, on a nice lease return S-class or G-wagen.
A 3 year old S-class depreciates to around 60K, but I would still take one for the right deal. The G depreciates a lot slower.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
When's the car show in Vegas?
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
I'm sure MB of Bellevue will only cringe a little when I walk into their showroom...
Selfishly I'd probably be an advocate for NAIAS in Detroit because it's within driving distance....or a 1 hour flight but Las Vegas is always fun too
I'm sure we all look like our avatars in real life.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
familyturkey.25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
First, it feels like it's The Return of the Wagon!. In addition to the totally sexy Jaguar XF SportBrake, there was an S90 CrossCountry, the Buick Regal TourX, the Panamera Turismo, and even BMW trotted out a 3-series wagon as part of their display. Seems like the family vehicle du jour of years past is making a return. Not a moment too soon! @jpp5862 and I commented to one another how much we like the wagon shape. My fascination goes all the way back to the 80's, when I was digging the Plymouth Colt Wagon.
Next up, is the proliferation of hatchbacks, sportbacks, whatever. 5 doors galore populated the floor - A5, 4-series GT, Regal Sportback, VW Arteon. As much as I like the concept of a luxury hatch, I'm beginning to wonder who these are designed for. Generally more money than the sedan upon which they are based, and perhaps a bit more useful, but really?
Like @breld noted, the VW display was chock full of neat stuff. First was the 2019 Jetta - a pre-production model, so you couldn't get inside, but it was the same dark grey color as my current Jetta SE. At first, it looks pretty big - there was a Passat parked behind it, and they looked similar in size. After a while, that goes away. Then you notice the styling - or, more specifically, all of the lines on the car. On the hood, on the sides, I'm kinda surprised there were any on the roof. After studying it for a while, I will officially say - the jury is out. I liked it at first glance, then I started to not like it. Still, great value for the money. The Arteon was also displayed - again, no interior access. This is one handsome vehicle (despite my observations about the luxury hatch segment in general above). But, fully loaded we all thought this would price out above $40K. Could be a tough sell. I continue to like the Atlas for its 'no nonsense' look. And, the GTIs got a fair amount of attention.
Next to VW was the Mazda stand, and with it a new 2018 6, with the 2.5T engine from the CX-9. Detuned a bit (227HP, 310Torques), but I suspect plenty for the size of vehicle. Too bad it's only offered on the top trim levels.
What else caught my eye? Oh, the Jaguar E-Pace was there - both @jpp5862 and I derided the wheel design as looking too much like wheel covers from a 90's Hyundai. And, it's small. Way small. I'd much rather have the Arteon than this thing, if I had to choose between the two, assuming they are priced competitively.
Also sat in a new 2019 QX50 - this is the one my daughter really wants for her next ride. For all the talk about millennials not being interested in cars, my daughter is the exception. Two MINIs for her so far, and now this. First thing both @jpp5862 and I noticed when we sat down (I in the drivers seat, he in the passenger seat) was just how comfortable the seats were. I'll admit I don't have a lot of seat time in cars with good thrones in them, so it's hard to make a comparison, but my posterior-ometer was pretty pleased. Decent sized in both the front and back seats. I'll have to get her out to the dealer and see what she thinks of it, live and in person. But, there are examples that are priced at purt-near $60K!
Standing in the Porsche section, looking across the aisle to both Audi and BMW, I was standing next to @breld, gesturing:
(point at SQ5) - "had that"
(point at S3) - "had that"
(point at S4) - "had that"
(point at 5-series) - "had that"
(point at i3) - "have that"
(point at 4-series GT) - "had that"
etc.
Beyond Buick, we didn't look at much of the domestic brands. There was a "Bullitt" Mustang behind ropes that we ogled towards the end of the show.
The Guilia is quite striking, and so was the Stelvio. There was a Levante there, as well, if an $87K mid-sized sporty SUV is your thing.
A good time was had by all - though, I do have to tell a car-related story about the dinner I had with @jpp5862.
We chose a place close to downtown, in an arts district, but also semi-sketchy. Turns out there is a parking garage next to the restaurant with an automatic door (no tickets needed - this was free, but secure, parking). I pull in, find a spot, and find my way to the street.
After dinner, we try to figure out how to get back into said parking garage. The door I exited from was locked form the outside. The automatic door was down - as it should be - with no obvious way to get in. There was a door with a keypad next to the big door, but neither of us had a code.
Back to the restaurant we go - only to be told that at the bottom of our receipts was the 4-digit code we could use to gain entry. Sheesh!
Lesson learned.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
The nightmare continues on into day 36...and counting!!!
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
as to millenials, in my family sample of 2 (26 and 22), the son is obsessed with looking at fancier stuff to replace his 1 YO A3, and my daughter is very fond of cars and can't wait to do some looking when she gets home after graduation. Oh, and her BF that just got himself a silverado.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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I just looked, it's 1.5 miles from the restaurant to the bus station. We didn't know that at the time last night, and would probably have told you it was much further.
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Come to think of it, the Seattle show is usually in mid-November. Not the most exciting show though, I've had a more interesting time in Vancouver - weirdo Canuck models, and the pricier (non-exotic) cars are more likely to be open to sit in.
Saw and sat in one just like this locally at the Volvo dealer. It seems that all the local dealers (and the one pictured) have the two-toned white/black R-Design model with black interior, orange carpeting. I wanted to like this car a lot, but was somewhat underwhelmed. There were lackluster hard surfaces on the dash and door panels, the carpeting was very flat, except the color, amd reminded me of industrial indoor/outdoor carpeting. The nav., information screen was vertical, as with other Volvos, and the a/c vents were long, thin ones. For $47k, there are a lot of formidable competitors. In all fairness, since I did not drive the car, maybe I was truly missing something. I prefer the looks of the XC60’s much more, and not a fan of the XC40’s C-pillars. My initial impression of the XC40 is...meh.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2015-porsche-boxster-roadster_s-used-17449391.html
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
they run the numbers.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
https://www.subaruofcherryhill.com/used/Volkswagen/2008-Volkswagen-Eos-Cherry+Hill+NJ-7af828cd0a0e0ae97cafcbc6fe8bf03c.htm?searchDepth=46:48
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I was looking at the Porsche website on Tuesday (everyone kept asking me what I want for my birthday, so I had to tell them something). After building a few different 911s, Macans, Caymans, & Boxsters, I did a quick CPO search. Every Boxster that was listed for under $45K had close to or over 50K miles on it or was at least 7 years old.
I know there’s no such thing as a “cheap” Porsche, but that base Cayman I posted for Shifty that was on jalopnik the other day looks like a good price. For the price of a Civic Si, you can have a Mid Engined Cayman.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Porsches of the failin IMS breed are somewhat inexpensive...until repair time.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
A new iPad if the wife determines that I calculated wrong and we are, in fact, Rich.
Oh, I get a colonoscopy too. The ultimate birthday experience (1 week early). My actual bday activity is taking the new car in for it’s first oil change.
Living the dream baby!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S