Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

28firefighter

Thanks all. Definitely scary. Have to say, given the events of this week, I’d like to return 2021 for a refund.

roadburner

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

28firefighter

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

Make an offer. 30 degrees seems to be the perfect time to make a deal!

nyccarguy

@28firefighter - Sorry to hear about your Dad! Please send my best!

lemko1968

Just bought this Lexus ES350 last month.

fintail

Whhaaaaa?

I suppose a Lexus is a Japanese Buick, and the ES might be the sweet spot in the range. Congrats!

lemko1968 said:

Just bought this Lexus ES350 last month.

qbrozen

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

breld

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!

roadburner

breld said:

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!

I still have to drive it; it's been on their floor 141 days as of today, so I doubt it's going anywhere. I'll bet I was the first potential buyer this week who looked at it.

corvette

roadburner said:

breld said:

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!

I still have to drive it; it's been on their floor 141 days as of today, so I doubt it's going anywhere. I'll bet I was the first potential buyer this week who looked at it.

I have a service appointment there Tuesday, just saying...

breld

So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

cdnpinhead

Thought better of it.

stickguy

I have only sold to Carvana (2x) but those worked fine. The Acura in September, they paid off the lease within about 3 days. Speaking of which, I got a check in the mail Friday for about $5 from Acura financial. Seems they got a little bit too much paid off, and sent me a refund! Like getting a late Christmas present!

xwesx

sda said:

@xwesx , did your wife finally get the Subaru delivered? Happy wife? That might be a dangerous question...happy with the car?

Thanks for asking, @sda!

She just picked it up today. It was a long outing for her with her mother in tow, but they made it through it. She said it took her about five minutes to get out of the driveway because she couldn't get the car to go into reverse. Eventually, she had to read through the owner's manual to find that there is some sort of "ring" on the shifter that she must pull in order to allow the car to slip into reverse. I tell you what, drivers these days must be absolute morons if they need a safety ring to keep them out of reverse unless they really want that gear!

Anyhow, once out of the driveway, they had no more issues. Retrospectively, she mentioned tonight that she thinks it "lacks umph" (this is her, coming from her 174 hp 2.5L Forester). I suggested that she explore the upper end of the tachometer a bit, as she tends to short-shift through the gears. These cars barely make any power under 3,000 rpm, and she'll generally do everything she can to avoid breaking that threshold.

Also, no pics (yet). She is keeping it all to herself.

nyccarguy

I had to get our Pilot’s emissions testing done (it is due tomorrow). The car wash and city recycling center are on the same street as the Good Year Place that does the emissions testing. $20 to the State of Connecticut and then it was off to the recycling center where I properly disposed of some motor oil, trans fluid, & diff fluid that none of my cars use anymore. Finally it was time to get the Pilot a bath.

Right next door to the Car Wash is the Hyundai/Genesis dealer. I took a quick look at a couple of G70s on the lot while my Pilot was being dried and the windows cleaned.

They had a Black/Black G70 2.0T AWD with zero options (save for the black paint) and a $39K sticker. I don’t know what it was missing, but it was sharp looking for a sub $40K sedan. A few spots down they had a $54K G70 3.3T AWD with the Brembros. It was grey with black 5 spoke wheels. It had the quilted leather seats too and I’m sure a slew of other options. Very nice too, but I don’t know if it is $14,000 nicer. I’m sure it is faster, handles better, & stops better.

xwesx

28firefighter said:

Well, folks. Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans, right?

I love our hobby, but please be careful folks.

Oh, dang. Very sorry, @28firefighter, and best wishes to your dad as he navigates the recovery from the injury and the long road of rehabilitation!

xwesx

tjc78 said:

Boring day here.. nothing much to do, so I did the right thing (VGG reference!) and froze myself washing both cars and cleaning the garage a bit.

Pics or it didn’t happen right?

That is a whole lot of white car!

xwesx

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

I officially hit 30K miles in my Tacoma on the commute home tonight. Every mile I drive it from now until September will cost me $.15

Oh oh, bad planning. What made you choose a 30k lease over a 36k?

That was a 30K, 24-month lease, IIRC. The man drives!

xwesx

fintail said:

Best wishes to an exceptional recovery for your dad, @28firefighter

Maybe one pro about my lack of space/tools/skill - I'm unlikely to injure myself, unless I close the hood on my hand or something.

Yeah, same here. I wouldn't touch the stuff.

xwesx

28firefighter said:

Thanks all. Definitely scary. Have to say, given the events of this week, I’d like to return 2021 for a refund.

We're still in the 30-day return window, so I don't see why that's not possible!

xwesx

lemko1968 said:

Just bought this Lexus ES350 last month.

I think @fintail had the right response! That's a shocker! Very nice, and it bends both time and space in front of the car, so you don't need to be moving quickly to make good distance.... and just see what happens when you hit 88 mph!

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

Very nice too, but I don’t know if it is $14,000 nicer. I’m sure it is faster, handles better, & stops better.

Those all sound like good reasons to me! Better go drive one, just to make sure...

xwesx

On the topic of short-shifting, I've been driving my wife's Forester for the last couple of weeks, just to even out miles a bit since I'm constantly running errands now for the kids (this used to be her domain!). Our cars once had fairly even miles on them, but I crossed over 102,000 on the Q7 just before swapping to her car, and her car hasn't quite broken the 100,000 mark yet.

After driving it a couple days, my son says, "This car has a lot more spunk when you drive it." So, I explained to him that most of the power is found in the upper reaches, and to not fear holding the gears a little longer. I am letting him drive most of the time we are in it together, and I think he's actually enjoying the "manual experience" quite a bit better now than when he was under his mother's tutelage. Just don't tell her I said that...

If it makes her feel any better, he is also quite safety-conscious and is handling the generously slippery roads satisfyingly well.

xwesx

breld said:

So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

Ugh. That would, indeed, be frustrating! To contrast, the Crosstrek dealer sent me the titling paperwork right on time when they shipped the car out on Wednesday. I received it late Friday afternoon, so I'll stop in at Motor Vehicles on Monday to get the license plates, then ship them off to my wife. Maybe I should get her personalized plates... "SLOMOM." Hahahah

I also found out how much the dealer made on the transaction.... $3K. They paid a scant $15.9 on it back in August.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

breld said:

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!

I still have to drive it; it's been on their floor 141 days as of today, so I doubt it's going anywhere. I'll bet I was the first potential buyer this week who looked at it.

Take it out for a test drive somewhere isolated and if the handling is to your liking even with summer tires in 30 degree weather you’re sure to enjoy it when it warms up.

oldfarmer50

breld said:

So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

Carvana has a reputation for being a few thousand higher than the traditional dealer, are you saying that cars you’ve bought from them are competitively priced? I like that their cars are supposed to be accident free but I wouldn’t want to pay a lot more for that privledge.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

breld said:

So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

Ugh. That would, indeed, be frustrating! To contrast, the Crosstrek dealer sent me the titling paperwork right on time when they shipped the car out on Wednesday. I received it late Friday afternoon, so I'll stop in at Motor Vehicles on Monday to get the license plates, then ship them off to my wife. Maybe I should get her personalized plates... "SLOMOM." Hahahah

I also found out how much the dealer made on the transaction.... $3K. They paid a scant $15.9 on it back in August.

That less than 20% profit compared to the usual 30% or more. You made a good deal.

tjc78

xwesx said:

tjc78 said:

Boring day here.. nothing much to do, so I did the right thing (VGG reference!) and froze myself washing both cars and cleaning the garage a bit.

Pics or it didn’t happen right?

That is a whole lot of white car!

Lol. Good thing my Mom’s RAV wasn’t in the shot. (Not that I’d subject you all to that.).

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

breld said:

So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

Carvana has a reputation for being a few thousand higher than the traditional dealer, are you saying that cars you’ve bought from them are competitively priced? I like that their cars are supposed to be accident free but I wouldn’t want to pay a lot more for that privledge.

Deals are not consistent there. Anywhere from great deal to overpriced. Have to evaluate on a case-by-case basis.

stickguy

Not sure how closely Carvana actually inspects cars for prior (fixed) damage. As opposed to running a carfax and basing it on that. I think if you read the site they refer to it as no reported accidents (then link to the carfax). Though when you apply to sell the car, I think they run some other type of autocheck. If that comes back clean, they make their offer.

I assume that once they get the car and you get the money, they just eat anything they find that was not on the reports. And probably don't worry about it, because they aren't likely going back to the seller at that point.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

breld said:

So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

Carvana has a reputation for being a few thousand higher than the traditional dealer, are you saying that cars you’ve bought from them are competitively priced? I like that their cars are supposed to be accident free but I wouldn’t want to pay a lot more for that privledge.

Deals are not consistent there. Anywhere from great deal to overpriced. Have to evaluate on a case-by-case basis.

I am still ticked I was late on the 2018 V60CC last year. That one was a steal but when I saw it was already pending.

nyccarguy

xwesx said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

I officially hit 30K miles in my Tacoma on the commute home tonight. Every mile I drive it from now until September will cost me $.15

Oh oh, bad planning. What made you choose a 30k lease over a 36k?

That was a 30K, 24-month lease, IIRC. The man drives!

You are correct @xwesx . I took a 24 month/15K mile per year lease knowing full well that I would go over. Toyota Financial Service charges $.15 per mile whether you buy up front or prepay. I missed your post @oldfarmer50 , didn’t mean to not respond originally.

roadburner

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

It’s like any purchasing decision I make; I won’t buy a car(or motorcycle, or HTS equipment) unless I believe it’s worth the price.
As an example I wouldn’t buy an M2 Comp if it was priced only $2k less than an M2 CS. It’s not worth the price difference.

qbrozen

roadburner said:

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

It’s like any purchasing decision I make; I won’t buy a car(or motorcycle, or HTS equipment) unless I believe it’s worth the price.
As an example I wouldn’t buy an M2 Comp if it was priced only $2k less than an M2 CS. It’s no worth the price difference.

That’s kind of my point. So you want the CS, but would settle for a Comp for the right price. So why not get the CS?

mjfloyd1

I forgot to add the most important picture

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

Oh my! Prayers for a good outcome and speedy recovery. So sorry to hear.

+1

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

Boring day here.. nothing much to do, so I did the right thing (VGG reference!) and froze myself washing both cars and cleaning the garage a bit.

Pics or it didn’t happen right?

Great looking!

mjfloyd1

@28firefighter - any update on your dad and his hand injury?

explorerx4

@tjc78,
That fence across the street would definitely be against code around here.

28firefighter

Surgeon came in today and removed the bandages and is thrilled. Docs, nurses, and my Dad say the hand looks amazing.

Another day or so in ICU then step down if all is well. No rehab or therapy of any kind for at least 6-12 weeks.

All in all, a miracle of modern medicine...

cdnpinhead

xwesx said:

The man drives!

It's nice to see someone actually driving a vehicle, rather than using it as a display piece. When I was in sales in Western Canada I generally racked up 30K+ annually. I burned through my 12K warranty (remember those?) on my 240Z in about four months.

au1994

Sorry to hear about your dad, @28firefighter. They can truly do some wonderful things with surgery/microsurgery these days.

au1994

lemko1968 said:

Just bought this Lexus ES350 last month.

Nice! Believe it or not, that schnoz has grown on me. Especially since those tend to lease really well but alas, the wife says no go.

roadburner

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

It’s like any purchasing decision I make; I won’t buy a car(or motorcycle, or HTS equipment) unless I believe it’s worth the price.
As an example I wouldn’t buy an M2 Comp if it was priced only $2k less than an M2 CS. It’s no worth the price difference.

That’s kind of my point. So you want the CS, but would settle for a Comp for the right price. So why not get the CS?

My vehicle purchasing budget. I’ve already increased it by $15,000- and I’ll have to bump it even higher to go with a CPO M2C...

coldinohio

are they different sized keys? maybe angle ..

mjfloyd1 said:

I forgot to add the most important picture

tjc78

explorerx4 said:

@tjc78,
That fence across the street would definitely be against code around here.

Why? It’s a corner property. We ordered a similar fence in white for our entire property. HOA approved it.

@graphicguy
Thank you!!!

@28firefighter
Sounds like good news!

ab348

coldinohio said:

are they different sized keys? maybe angle ..

I had the same thought.

mjfloyd1

coldinohio said:

are they different sized keys? maybe angle ..

mjfloyd1 said:

I forgot to add the most important picture

They are the same size. I thought the same thing and put them side by side to check

explorerx4

Many places you are not allowed to have a fence over 4 feet tall in front of the house.
That fence looks like a hazard to me, mostly for pedestrians.

kyfdx

explorerx4 said:

Many places you are not allowed to have a fence over 4 feet tall in front of the house.
That fence looks like a hazard to me, mostly for pedestrians.

In our city, you can't have an enclosed fence in the front of the property, at all.