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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,843
    Thanks all. Definitely scary. Have to say, given the events of this week, I’d like to return 2021 for a refund.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    edited January 2021
    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,843

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    Make an offer. 30 degrees seems to be the perfect time to make a deal!
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    @28firefighter - Sorry to hear about your Dad! Please send my best!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,465
    Whhaaaaa?

    I suppose a Lexus is a Japanese Buick, and the ES might be the sweet spot in the range. Congrats!
    lemko1968 said:


    Just bought this Lexus ES350 last month.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,934
    qbrozen said:

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.
    Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    breld said:

    qbrozen said:

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.
    Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!
    I still have to drive it; it's been on their floor 141 days as of today, so I doubt it's going anywhere. I'll bet I was the first potential buyer this week who looked at it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,318

    breld said:

    qbrozen said:

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.
    Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!
    I still have to drive it; it's been on their floor 141 days as of today, so I doubt it's going anywhere. I'll bet I was the first potential buyer this week who looked at it.
    I have a service appointment there Tuesday, just saying... ;)
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,934
    edited January 2021
    So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

    But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

    That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    edited January 2021
    Thought better of it.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,453
    I have only sold to Carvana (2x) but those worked fine. The Acura in September, they paid off the lease within about 3 days. Speaking of which, I got a check in the mail Friday for about $5 from Acura financial. Seems they got a little bit too much paid off, and sent me a refund! Like getting a late Christmas present!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    edited January 2021
    sda said:

    @xwesx , did your wife finally get the Subaru delivered? Happy wife? That might be a dangerous question...happy with the car?

    Thanks for asking, @sda!

    She just picked it up today. It was a long outing for her with her mother in tow, but they made it through it. She said it took her about five minutes to get out of the driveway because she couldn't get the car to go into reverse. Eventually, she had to read through the owner's manual to find that there is some sort of "ring" on the shifter that she must pull in order to allow the car to slip into reverse. I tell you what, drivers these days must be absolute morons if they need a safety ring to keep them out of reverse unless they really want that gear!

    Anyhow, once out of the driveway, they had no more issues. Retrospectively, she mentioned tonight that she thinks it "lacks umph" (this is her, coming from her 174 hp 2.5L Forester). I suggested that she explore the upper end of the tachometer a bit, as she tends to short-shift through the gears. These cars barely make any power under 3,000 rpm, and she'll generally do everything she can to avoid breaking that threshold.

    Also, no pics (yet). She is keeping it all to herself. :(
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    I had to get our Pilot’s emissions testing done (it is due tomorrow). The car wash and city recycling center are on the same street as the Good Year Place that does the emissions testing. $20 to the State of Connecticut and then it was off to the recycling center where I properly disposed of some motor oil, trans fluid, & diff fluid that none of my cars use anymore. Finally it was time to get the Pilot a bath.

    Right next door to the Car Wash is the Hyundai/Genesis dealer. I took a quick look at a couple of G70s on the lot while my Pilot was being dried and the windows cleaned.

    They had a Black/Black G70 2.0T AWD with zero options (save for the black paint) and a $39K sticker. I don’t know what it was missing, but it was sharp looking for a sub $40K sedan. A few spots down they had a $54K G70 3.3T AWD with the Brembros. It was grey with black 5 spoke wheels. It had the quilted leather seats too and I’m sure a slew of other options. Very nice too, but I don’t know if it is $14,000 nicer. I’m sure it is faster, handles better, & stops better.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697

    Well, folks. Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans, right?

    I love our hobby, but please be careful folks.

    Oh, dang. Very sorry, @28firefighter, and best wishes to your dad as he navigates the recovery from the injury and the long road of rehabilitation!
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    tjc78 said:

    Boring day here.. nothing much to do, so I did the right thing (VGG reference!) and froze myself washing both cars and cleaning the garage a bit.

    Pics or it didn’t happen right?

    That is a whole lot of white car! :D

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697

    nyccarguy said:

    I officially hit 30K miles in my Tacoma on the commute home tonight. Every mile I drive it from now until September will cost me $.15 ;)

    Oh oh, bad planning. What made you choose a 30k lease over a 36k?
    That was a 30K, 24-month lease, IIRC. The man drives! :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    fintail said:

    Best wishes to an exceptional recovery for your dad, @28firefighter

    Maybe one pro about my lack of space/tools/skill - I'm unlikely to injure myself, unless I close the hood on my hand or something.

    Yeah, same here. I wouldn't touch the stuff.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697

    Thanks all. Definitely scary. Have to say, given the events of this week, I’d like to return 2021 for a refund.

    We're still in the 30-day return window, so I don't see why that's not possible! ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    lemko1968 said:


    Just bought this Lexus ES350 last month.

    I think @fintail had the right response! That's a shocker! Very nice, and it bends both time and space in front of the car, so you don't need to be moving quickly to make good distance.... and just see what happens when you hit 88 mph! :D

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    edited January 2021
    nyccarguy said:

    Very nice too, but I don’t know if it is $14,000 nicer. I’m sure it is faster, handles better, & stops better.

    Those all sound like good reasons to me! Better go drive one, just to make sure...

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    edited January 2021
    On the topic of short-shifting, I've been driving my wife's Forester for the last couple of weeks, just to even out miles a bit since I'm constantly running errands now for the kids (this used to be her domain!). Our cars once had fairly even miles on them, but I crossed over 102,000 on the Q7 just before swapping to her car, and her car hasn't quite broken the 100,000 mark yet.

    After driving it a couple days, my son says, "This car has a lot more spunk when you drive it." So, I explained to him that most of the power is found in the upper reaches, and to not fear holding the gears a little longer. I am letting him drive most of the time we are in it together, and I think he's actually enjoying the "manual experience" quite a bit better now than when he was under his mother's tutelage. Just don't tell her I said that...

    If it makes her feel any better, he is also quite safety-conscious and is handling the generously slippery roads satisfyingly well.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    breld said:

    So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

    But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

    That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

    Ugh. That would, indeed, be frustrating! To contrast, the Crosstrek dealer sent me the titling paperwork right on time when they shipped the car out on Wednesday. I received it late Friday afternoon, so I'll stop in at Motor Vehicles on Monday to get the license plates, then ship them off to my wife. Maybe I should get her personalized plates... "SLOMOM." Hahahah

    I also found out how much the dealer made on the transaction.... $3K. They paid a scant $15.9 on it back in August.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,239

    breld said:

    qbrozen said:

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.
    Or...if you figure it’s $4-5k higher than my admittedly good deal, you’re getting 46 more hp for a total of 381 and reportedly refined suspension settings. Pretty good bang for your buck!
    I still have to drive it; it's been on their floor 141 days as of today, so I doubt it's going anywhere. I'll bet I was the first potential buyer this week who looked at it.
    Take it out for a test drive somewhere isolated and if the handling is to your liking even with summer tires in 30 degree weather you’re sure to enjoy it when it warms up.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,239
    edited January 2021
    breld said:

    So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

    But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

    That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

    Carvana has a reputation for being a few thousand higher than the traditional dealer, are you saying that cars you’ve bought from them are competitively priced? I like that their cars are supposed to be accident free but I wouldn’t want to pay a lot more for that privledge.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,239
    xwesx said:

    breld said:

    So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

    But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

    That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

    Ugh. That would, indeed, be frustrating! To contrast, the Crosstrek dealer sent me the titling paperwork right on time when they shipped the car out on Wednesday. I received it late Friday afternoon, so I'll stop in at Motor Vehicles on Monday to get the license plates, then ship them off to my wife. Maybe I should get her personalized plates... "SLOMOM." Hahahah

    I also found out how much the dealer made on the transaction.... $3K. They paid a scant $15.9 on it back in August.
    That less than 20% profit compared to the usual 30% or more. You made a good deal.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,019
    xwesx said:

    tjc78 said:

    Boring day here.. nothing much to do, so I did the right thing (VGG reference!) and froze myself washing both cars and cleaning the garage a bit.

    Pics or it didn’t happen right?

    That is a whole lot of white car! :D

    Lol. Good thing my Mom’s RAV wasn’t in the shot. (Not that I’d subject you all to that.).

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    breld said:

    So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

    But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

    That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

    Carvana has a reputation for being a few thousand higher than the traditional dealer, are you saying that cars you’ve bought from them are competitively priced? I like that their cars are supposed to be accident free but I wouldn’t want to pay a lot more for that privledge.
    Deals are not consistent there. Anywhere from great deal to overpriced. Have to evaluate on a case-by-case basis.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,453
    Not sure how closely Carvana actually inspects cars for prior (fixed) damage. As opposed to running a carfax and basing it on that. I think if you read the site they refer to it as no reported accidents (then link to the carfax). Though when you apply to sell the car, I think they run some other type of autocheck. If that comes back clean, they make their offer.

    I assume that once they get the car and you get the money, they just eat anything they find that was not on the reports. And probably don't worry about it, because they aren't likely going back to the seller at that point.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,453
    qbrozen said:

    breld said:

    So we’ve purchased two vehicles from Carvana (and traded in our vehicles as well) and I’d say overall the experience has been very positive with the pricing and the vehicles themselves.

    But their title department (or whatever company they outsource with) stinks. On our first GTI (@kyfdx’s), they ignored my request for self-registration, so I not only lost out on transferring my current plates, but also missed out on the credit due to me on those plates. Now, we’re still waiting on the title complete notice on my wife’s MINI, which is now a week or two past the initial expiration of the temp tag. And, they just fedex’d me documents to sign for the title work on the traded-in MINI. Problem is, they have our old address on the docs (even though they sent them to our current address) and my name on that paperwork, when my wife is the only person on the title of that car.

    That is indeed their weak point if you do a search online. It’s frustrating, but it wouldn’t stop me from buying another car from them if it was the right one at the right price. It’s annoying from a logistical perspective, but it’s up to them to get the title work done.

    Carvana has a reputation for being a few thousand higher than the traditional dealer, are you saying that cars you’ve bought from them are competitively priced? I like that their cars are supposed to be accident free but I wouldn’t want to pay a lot more for that privledge.
    Deals are not consistent there. Anywhere from great deal to overpriced. Have to evaluate on a case-by-case basis.
    I am still ticked I was late on the 2018 V60CC last year. That one was a steal but when I saw it was already pending.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    xwesx said:

    nyccarguy said:

    I officially hit 30K miles in my Tacoma on the commute home tonight. Every mile I drive it from now until September will cost me $.15 ;)

    Oh oh, bad planning. What made you choose a 30k lease over a 36k?
    That was a 30K, 24-month lease, IIRC. The man drives! :D
    You are correct @xwesx . I took a 24 month/15K mile per year lease knowing full well that I would go over. Toyota Financial Service charges $.15 per mile whether you buy up front or prepay. I missed your post @oldfarmer50 , didn’t mean to not respond originally.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    edited January 2021
    qbrozen said:

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.
    It’s like any purchasing decision I make; I won’t buy a car(or motorcycle, or HTS equipment) unless I believe it’s worth the price.
    As an example I wouldn’t buy an M2 Comp if it was priced only $2k less than an M2 CS. It’s not worth the price difference.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    qbrozen said:

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.
    It’s like any purchasing decision I make; I won’t buy a car(or motorcycle, or HTS equipment) unless I believe it’s worth the price.
    As an example I wouldn’t buy an M2 Comp if it was priced only $2k less than an M2 CS. It’s no worth the price difference.
    That’s kind of my point. So you want the CS, but would settle for a Comp for the right price. So why not get the CS?

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130
    tjc78 said:

    Oh my! Prayers for a good outcome and speedy recovery. So sorry to hear.

    +1
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130
    tjc78 said:

    Boring day here.. nothing much to do, so I did the right thing (VGG reference!) and froze myself washing both cars and cleaning the garage a bit.

    Pics or it didn’t happen right?







    Great looking!
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    @28firefighter - any update on your dad and his hand injury?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    @tjc78,
    That fence across the street would definitely be against code around here.
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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    edited January 2021
    xwesx said:

    The man drives! :D

    It's nice to see someone actually driving a vehicle, rather than using it as a display piece. When I was in sales in Western Canada I generally racked up 30K+ annually. I burned through my 12K warranty (remember those?) on my 240Z in about four months.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,714
    Sorry to hear about your dad, @28firefighter. They can truly do some wonderful things with surgery/microsurgery these days.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,714
    lemko1968 said:


    Just bought this Lexus ES350 last month.

    Nice! Believe it or not, that schnoz has grown on me. Especially since those tend to lease really well but alas, the wife says no go.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    qbrozen said:

    qbrozen said:

    So my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
    Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
    If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

    If you'd only buy it if a great deal, maybe it isn't the right car. (?)
    As picky as you are, I think the deal should be icing, not the deciding factor. Just one man's opinion.
    It’s like any purchasing decision I make; I won’t buy a car(or motorcycle, or HTS equipment) unless I believe it’s worth the price.
    As an example I wouldn’t buy an M2 Comp if it was priced only $2k less than an M2 CS. It’s no worth the price difference.
    That’s kind of my point. So you want the CS, but would settle for a Comp for the right price. So why not get the CS?

    My vehicle purchasing budget. I’ve already increased it by $15,000- and I’ll have to bump it even higher to go with a CPO M2C...

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  • coldinohiocoldinohio Member Posts: 170
    are they different sized keys? maybe angle ..
    mjfloyd1 said:

    I forgot to add the most important picture


  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,019
    edited January 2021

    @tjc78,
    That fence across the street would definitely be against code around here.

    Why? It’s a corner property. We ordered a similar fence in white for our entire property. HOA approved it.

    @graphicguy
    Thank you!!!

    @28firefighter
    Sounds like good news!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321

    are they different sized keys? maybe angle ..

    I had the same thought.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    are they different sized keys? maybe angle ..

    mjfloyd1 said:

    I forgot to add the most important picture


    They are the same size. I thought the same thing and put them side by side to check
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    Many places you are not allowed to have a fence over 4 feet tall in front of the house.
    That fence looks like a hazard to me, mostly for pedestrians.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,778

    Many places you are not allowed to have a fence over 4 feet tall in front of the house.
    That fence looks like a hazard to me, mostly for pedestrians.

    In our city, you can't have an enclosed fence in the front of the property, at all.

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