Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

tjc78

qbrozen said:

sda said:

In black the CT4 is really sharp. This one was not overly opted out but does have the sunroof and sound and cold weather packages for a total sticker of $37200 which isn't too bad.

Huh. And here I was not even paying attention to it. $43k for one with the TT V6 and most niceties I would want, which puts it about $9k less than my previous 2018 330.

Yeah but that 43K sticker will lease for more than the 50k BMW

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

I can't figure out what the heck model is which on the camaros. I did check Rodo, they do have some LT 1lT models but those aren't V8s. And no where near that cheap! But I have found in the past, when these schemes come up, that the app does not come anywhere near the hack price.

1LT is the turbo 4

LT1 is the V8 (may be seen on line as the 1LZ)

I was always confused by Chevy’s model and trim designations. 1LT, 2LT, LS, LT etc. then on the Camaro there was RS and SS to designate different power trains. Made shopping very frustrating.

And now you can get an SS with the RS package. :b

I know. In the past the RS package was a trim level that could be had on the 6cyl. model. More confusion.

28firefighter

I bet the X3 and Leaf get the axe for the Tesla.

Sandman6472

Enjoyed driving the Tesla, it was fun, but the range and charging issues would be to be worked out before purchase. Just not sure about going electric yet though would be easier having one regular vehicle in the fleet just in case something does go wrong with the charging and or range. Definitely something to think about.
As much as I'd really love to swap vehicles right now, staying put with the current stable as no issues to speak of right now since both leaks have been dealt with. Really do want to check out the new 2022 GTI with the cloth interior and see how it drives. Not really a fan of 18" alloys but seems to be the trend so, we'll just have to see. Now that my driving has gone down by so much, the next vehicle I get will be around many many years I'm thinking so it's gotta be something I really do like.

qbrozen

ab348 said:

qbrozen said:

Huh. And here I was not even paying attention to it. $43k for one with the TT V6 and most niceties I would want, which puts it about $9k less than my previous 2018 330.

No, the CT4 gets the 2.7 Turbo 4 (also seen in the Silverado) as its upgrade engine, unless you pony up for the just-announced Blackwing model. The TT V6 can be had in the considerably more expensive/bigger CT5.

ah, ok. I jumped to a conclusion that it was a 6. Regardless, it is the performance that matters. 0-60 in 4.8, per them.

corvette

One of the YT car guys installed an aftermarket electronically controlled exhaust on his 2020 Mustang GT. During the install, they unplugged a cupholder light. When they tried to start the car, they got a "no key detected" error (even though the key was inside the car). It started when they plugged in the cupholder light.

Reminded me of my Tundra dashboard lighting up like a Christmas tree when I tried running E85--the other systems in the vehicle should continue working even if the emissions system detects an anomaly.

corvette

Also, it appears that the itch that we all seem to have has no boundaries... I've been jonesing to either buy a beater or start looking for a replacement for the Tundra, despite the fact that there's over a year left on its lease. Never mind that I'm having to do a lot of leisure driving to hit the allowed mileage on the Tundra, or the fact that I'm recovering from a foot injury and it would be difficult to physically browse for or do work on a project car right now.

qbrozen

Alright ... this could be interesting. I found a dealer where their website gave me everything up front, applied the proper incentives, applied their advertised discount, spit out the CORRECT lease payment, and let me apply and submit all documents online. If this goes through, I will be FLOORED!!

breld

28firefighter said:

I bet the X3 and Leaf get the axe for the Tesla.

That’s my initial thought and makes the most sense. But trying to be patient and enjoy the X3 as I do like it a lot.

Another thought is the Supra for a Model 3, but as fast as they are, certainly doesn’t capture the same feel as the more traditional fun vehicle.

The obvious path is to wait until the end of the year...be able to evaluate the Tesla against the Mach E and Rivian, get halfway at least on the Leaf lease, and be that much closer to actually realizing any tax credits.

But that’s rational thought.

28firefighter

Godspeed fair X3. We barely knew thee.

xwesx

28firefighter said:

Godspeed fair X3. We barely knew thee.

Not even an inch!

explorerx4

@qbrozen,
Fingers crossed!

tjc78

qbrozen said:

Alright ... this could be interesting. I found a dealer where their website gave me everything up front, applied the proper incentives, applied their advertised discount, spit out the CORRECT lease payment, and let me apply and submit all documents online. If this goes through, I will be FLOORED!!

Interesting! Good luck. It will be fun for the time you have it.

qbrozen

I realized Chevy doesn’t allow transfers in first 6 mos. That will impact potential profit.

graphicguy

28firefighter said:

I promise I’ll give it a rest after this. I’m just so impressed with how well things cleaned up.

I put in some OEM all weather floormats today so this is post-detail with new mats.

Love it. I had an ‘01 330i in those exact colors, complete with i-Drive and manual transmission. Probably the best BMW (out of the 3) I ever owned.

Great car!

graphicguy

@ab348 ....you still have the best Cadillac they’ve made over the last decade...the ATS with the 3.8L V6. Handles great...fast...well equipped.

breld

qbrozen said:

I realized Chevy doesn’t allow transfers in first 6 mos. That will impact potential profit.

Yeah, but 6 months to enjoy it for yourself. Win-win.

breld

Supra service take 2.

I’m sitting in the waiting lounge after just dropping off the Supra at the dealership I actually bought it from.

So this time, it was almost a red carpet type treatment. I pull up, a service advisor comes right up and addresses me by name and assures me the Supra tech is all ready to get the service done.

So (for @roadburner’s benefit if nothing else), I would say as long as you can scout out a good service department, the experience should be fine.

breld

And FWIW, I’m not as anxious as I usually am about making the switch for the Tesla.

For one thing, trade values seems to have really taken a hit compared to the inflated values a few months ago. Anyone else seeing that? Whereas Carvana offers were reflective of “Very Good” KBB values then, they seem to be thousands less than “Good” KBB now.

stickguy

I saw that a week or so ago when I shopped the princesses Jetta.

Maybe you should buy a used Tesla? They seem to depreciate hard. And you won’t have it very long anyway.

You really should buy into a smaller local used dealer that sells high line stuff. You can buy inventory for them, and keep the books. A side hustle, and an endless supply of different cars to drive. Might be cheaper than your current hobby.

breld

I'd be open to a used Tesla, but I'm seeing the opposite of what you are...they seem to hold their value ridiculously well.

28firefighter

The real winner is finding someone who is trying to unload their Tesla lease via lease transfer - oftentimes you can find someone who needs out badly enough that they'll forego the large down payment they made and not ask for any $$ as part of the transfer.

nyccarguy

breld said:

I'd be open to a used Tesla, but I'm seeing the opposite of what you are...they seem to hold their value ridiculously well.

According to the ASKING prices they seem to hold their value ridiculously well.

fintail

Looks like with "G Manufaktur" cosmetic options, I can make a new fintail with a G-Wagen. Mine would be a normal G550 on base wheels, and I'd remove the front braces/bullbar within the first 30 seconds of ownership. Now to convince my employer to double my salary, or find a rich person to order one in this spec and just drive it now and then for 10 years until I can afford it. China blue with a darker blue interior (all blue, none of this black and blue stuff), finally some good color combos, you just have to pay through the nose to get them:

tifighter

breld said:

carnaught said:

breld said:

Since I’ve been a bit obsessed over EVs lately, my wife suggested we go drive an eTron and Model Y. She didn’t have to ask twice.

The Audi impressed us for it’s, uh, Audi-ness. I appreciate that it looks pretty much like the other SUVs in the family, inside and out. Handsome styling, smart and sleek interior. The level of quality of materials and feel is what you’d expect from an SUV with a $70k sticker. And it happens to be all electric. Acceleration is great - overall seems on par with something like an SQ5 but with that smooth immediate torque. The only disappointing thing for me was the regenerative braking - you could use the accelerator pedal to modulate the speed effectively, and that was nice. But you couldn’t actually bring the car to a stop without the brake pedal...so no true one-pedal driving.

We then went to the mall for our 3:00 appointment to test out a Model Y. Nice process - they walk you out to the lot, give you a quick overview, and then send you on your way for an hour.

For me, I appreciate the styling of the Audi worlds better, but I recognize some of that is familiarity. The Tesla is without a doubt advanced and futuristic, but in a sort of generic way...it makes me think of what a director thinks a car should look like 20 years from now...like in Blade Runner or Minority Report, when people don’t care so much about the individual look of a car; it’s just a transport vehicle.

Having said that, driving the Tesla is sublime. I don’t care so much about the 0-60 time, but that immediate acceleration allows you to “place” the car quickly (which a lot of Tesla drivers seem to like to do). And before I handed the keys (figuratively) to my wife, I probably drove 20-30 miles in a parking lot, on the highway and through neighborhood streets...without ever touching the brake pedal. It’s easy to get used to that.

It’ll be interesting to see how the Mach E competes - by all accounts it seems to be faring well. But I do need to find a Ford dealership, or at least a salesperson, who seems interested in the product.

And then the Rivian comes later this year - that may combine the driving characteristics of the Tesla with a more robust design. But their SUV is also 202” long.

So, was your favorable impression of the Tesla enough for you to be on-board with one?

Oh definitely.

A friend of mine just ordered one over the weekend. Grey dual motor. While helping him out with spec, I drove both the LR and Performance Y on Wednesday. It does drive really well, and I think it's the best overall daily Tesla currently makes. Right size, right config, right balance. Also, I didn't feel like the dual motor gave up much to the Performance in the real world, and it rode better too.

When you need a referral code, let me know

breld

tifighter said:

breld said:

carnaught said:

breld said:

Since I’ve been a bit obsessed over EVs lately, my wife suggested we go drive an eTron and Model Y. She didn’t have to ask twice.

The Audi impressed us for it’s, uh, Audi-ness. I appreciate that it looks pretty much like the other SUVs in the family, inside and out. Handsome styling, smart and sleek interior. The level of quality of materials and feel is what you’d expect from an SUV with a $70k sticker. And it happens to be all electric. Acceleration is great - overall seems on par with something like an SQ5 but with that smooth immediate torque. The only disappointing thing for me was the regenerative braking - you could use the accelerator pedal to modulate the speed effectively, and that was nice. But you couldn’t actually bring the car to a stop without the brake pedal...so no true one-pedal driving.

We then went to the mall for our 3:00 appointment to test out a Model Y. Nice process - they walk you out to the lot, give you a quick overview, and then send you on your way for an hour.

For me, I appreciate the styling of the Audi worlds better, but I recognize some of that is familiarity. The Tesla is without a doubt advanced and futuristic, but in a sort of generic way...it makes me think of what a director thinks a car should look like 20 years from now...like in Blade Runner or Minority Report, when people don’t care so much about the individual look of a car; it’s just a transport vehicle.

Having said that, driving the Tesla is sublime. I don’t care so much about the 0-60 time, but that immediate acceleration allows you to “place” the car quickly (which a lot of Tesla drivers seem to like to do). And before I handed the keys (figuratively) to my wife, I probably drove 20-30 miles in a parking lot, on the highway and through neighborhood streets...without ever touching the brake pedal. It’s easy to get used to that.

It’ll be interesting to see how the Mach E competes - by all accounts it seems to be faring well. But I do need to find a Ford dealership, or at least a salesperson, who seems interested in the product.

And then the Rivian comes later this year - that may combine the driving characteristics of the Tesla with a more robust design. But their SUV is also 202” long.

So, was your favorable impression of the Tesla enough for you to be on-board with one?

Oh definitely.

A friend of mine just ordered one over the weekend. Grey dual motor. While helping him out with spec, I drove both the LR and Performance Y on Wednesday. It does drive really well, and I think it's the best overall daily Tesla currently makes. Right size, right config, right balance. Also, I didn't feel like the dual motor gave up much to the Performance in the real world, and it rode better too.

When you need a referral code, let me know

How did you feel the Y's handling, performance and comfort compared to your 3?

If I went with a Y as our daily "utility" car, I actually prefer the no up-charge white, we like the black interior with its wood trim, and for its purpose, I'd be fine with the standard wheels. So there are no compromises for me on the "base" level AWD Y at $49,990 (plus $1,200 I guess for D&H). Pretty good deal, plus at least we get a $2,500 incentive still from CO.

To the extent I would consider going the Model 3 route instead as a replacement for the fun car, I'd at least consider the Performance model. I'm a bit skeptical on the ride quality though on the 20" wheels and sport suspension.

nyccarguy

breld said:

tifighter said:

breld said:

carnaught said:

breld said:

Since I’ve been a bit obsessed over EVs lately, my wife suggested we go drive an eTron and Model Y. She didn’t have to ask twice.

The Audi impressed us for it’s, uh, Audi-ness. I appreciate that it looks pretty much like the other SUVs in the family, inside and out. Handsome styling, smart and sleek interior. The level of quality of materials and feel is what you’d expect from an SUV with a $70k sticker. And it happens to be all electric. Acceleration is great - overall seems on par with something like an SQ5 but with that smooth immediate torque. The only disappointing thing for me was the regenerative braking - you could use the accelerator pedal to modulate the speed effectively, and that was nice. But you couldn’t actually bring the car to a stop without the brake pedal...so no true one-pedal driving.

We then went to the mall for our 3:00 appointment to test out a Model Y. Nice process - they walk you out to the lot, give you a quick overview, and then send you on your way for an hour.

For me, I appreciate the styling of the Audi worlds better, but I recognize some of that is familiarity. The Tesla is without a doubt advanced and futuristic, but in a sort of generic way...it makes me think of what a director thinks a car should look like 20 years from now...like in Blade Runner or Minority Report, when people don’t care so much about the individual look of a car; it’s just a transport vehicle.

Having said that, driving the Tesla is sublime. I don’t care so much about the 0-60 time, but that immediate acceleration allows you to “place” the car quickly (which a lot of Tesla drivers seem to like to do). And before I handed the keys (figuratively) to my wife, I probably drove 20-30 miles in a parking lot, on the highway and through neighborhood streets...without ever touching the brake pedal. It’s easy to get used to that.

It’ll be interesting to see how the Mach E competes - by all accounts it seems to be faring well. But I do need to find a Ford dealership, or at least a salesperson, who seems interested in the product.

And then the Rivian comes later this year - that may combine the driving characteristics of the Tesla with a more robust design. But their SUV is also 202” long.

So, was your favorable impression of the Tesla enough for you to be on-board with one?

Oh definitely.

A friend of mine just ordered one over the weekend. Grey dual motor. While helping him out with spec, I drove both the LR and Performance Y on Wednesday. It does drive really well, and I think it's the best overall daily Tesla currently makes. Right size, right config, right balance. Also, I didn't feel like the dual motor gave up much to the Performance in the real world, and it rode better too.

When you need a referral code, let me know

How did you feel the Y's handling, performance and comfort compared to your 3?

If I went with a Y as our daily "utility" car, I actually prefer the no up-charge white, we like the black interior with its wood trim, and for its purpose, I'd be fine with the standard wheels. So there are no compromises for me on the "base" level AWD Y at $49,990 (plus $1,200 I guess for D&H). Pretty good deal, plus at least we get a $2,500 incentive still from CO.

To the extent I would consider going the Model 3 route instead as a replacement for the fun car, I'd at least consider the Performance model. I'm a bit skeptical on the ride quality though on the 20" wheels and sport suspension.

I happen to like Teslas in red.

breld

nyccarguy said:

breld said:

tifighter said:

breld said:

carnaught said:

breld said:

Since I’ve been a bit obsessed over EVs lately, my wife suggested we go drive an eTron and Model Y. She didn’t have to ask twice.

The Audi impressed us for it’s, uh, Audi-ness. I appreciate that it looks pretty much like the other SUVs in the family, inside and out. Handsome styling, smart and sleek interior. The level of quality of materials and feel is what you’d expect from an SUV with a $70k sticker. And it happens to be all electric. Acceleration is great - overall seems on par with something like an SQ5 but with that smooth immediate torque. The only disappointing thing for me was the regenerative braking - you could use the accelerator pedal to modulate the speed effectively, and that was nice. But you couldn’t actually bring the car to a stop without the brake pedal...so no true one-pedal driving.

We then went to the mall for our 3:00 appointment to test out a Model Y. Nice process - they walk you out to the lot, give you a quick overview, and then send you on your way for an hour.

For me, I appreciate the styling of the Audi worlds better, but I recognize some of that is familiarity. The Tesla is without a doubt advanced and futuristic, but in a sort of generic way...it makes me think of what a director thinks a car should look like 20 years from now...like in Blade Runner or Minority Report, when people don’t care so much about the individual look of a car; it’s just a transport vehicle.

Having said that, driving the Tesla is sublime. I don’t care so much about the 0-60 time, but that immediate acceleration allows you to “place” the car quickly (which a lot of Tesla drivers seem to like to do). And before I handed the keys (figuratively) to my wife, I probably drove 20-30 miles in a parking lot, on the highway and through neighborhood streets...without ever touching the brake pedal. It’s easy to get used to that.

It’ll be interesting to see how the Mach E competes - by all accounts it seems to be faring well. But I do need to find a Ford dealership, or at least a salesperson, who seems interested in the product.

And then the Rivian comes later this year - that may combine the driving characteristics of the Tesla with a more robust design. But their SUV is also 202” long.

So, was your favorable impression of the Tesla enough for you to be on-board with one?

Oh definitely.

A friend of mine just ordered one over the weekend. Grey dual motor. While helping him out with spec, I drove both the LR and Performance Y on Wednesday. It does drive really well, and I think it's the best overall daily Tesla currently makes. Right size, right config, right balance. Also, I didn't feel like the dual motor gave up much to the Performance in the real world, and it rode better too.

When you need a referral code, let me know

How did you feel the Y's handling, performance and comfort compared to your 3?

If I went with a Y as our daily "utility" car, I actually prefer the no up-charge white, we like the black interior with its wood trim, and for its purpose, I'd be fine with the standard wheels. So there are no compromises for me on the "base" level AWD Y at $49,990 (plus $1,200 I guess for D&H). Pretty good deal, plus at least we get a $2,500 incentive still from CO.

To the extent I would consider going the Model 3 route instead as a replacement for the fun car, I'd at least consider the Performance model. I'm a bit skeptical on the ride quality though on the 20" wheels and sport suspension.

I happen to like Teslas in red.

My wife is a fan of a nice red too - she admired the red Model 3 in the showroom. Uh oh!

My 1990 Civic Si was red, and the last red car I owned. Not generally a fan myself, but Tesla's red and Mazda's Soul Red always catch my eye.

roadburner

breld said:

Supra service take 2.

I’m sitting in the waiting lounge after just dropping off the Supra at the dealership I actually bought it from.

So this time, it was almost a red carpet type treatment. I pull up, a service advisor comes right up and addresses me by name and assures me the Supra tech is all ready to get the service done.

So (for @roadburner’s benefit if nothing else), I would say as long as you can scout out a good service department, the experience should be fine.

I’ve asked about the local Toyota dealers on my FB page with mixed results. The dealer I was talking with sold the Nitro Yellow car; as that’s the only color I’m interested in the pressure to pull the trigger is off for now. There is a Toyota salesman on the MKV forum that I monitor who actually owns a Supra; he suggested waiting until March because Toyota “Sales Events” occur on a quarterly basis. He hasn’t tried to steer business towards his own store so I consider his advice to be credible.
So for now it’s still Supra 3.0 Premium vs. M2 Comp- although a nice RWD F-Type or M4 Comp could turn my head if the color, options and price were right.

tifighter

breld said:

tifighter said:

breld said:

carnaught said:

breld said:

Since I’ve been a bit obsessed over EVs lately, my wife suggested we go drive an eTron and Model Y. She didn’t have to ask twice.

The Audi impressed us for it’s, uh, Audi-ness. I appreciate that it looks pretty much like the other SUVs in the family, inside and out. Handsome styling, smart and sleek interior. The level of quality of materials and feel is what you’d expect from an SUV with a $70k sticker. And it happens to be all electric. Acceleration is great - overall seems on par with something like an SQ5 but with that smooth immediate torque. The only disappointing thing for me was the regenerative braking - you could use the accelerator pedal to modulate the speed effectively, and that was nice. But you couldn’t actually bring the car to a stop without the brake pedal...so no true one-pedal driving.

We then went to the mall for our 3:00 appointment to test out a Model Y. Nice process - they walk you out to the lot, give you a quick overview, and then send you on your way for an hour.

For me, I appreciate the styling of the Audi worlds better, but I recognize some of that is familiarity. The Tesla is without a doubt advanced and futuristic, but in a sort of generic way...it makes me think of what a director thinks a car should look like 20 years from now...like in Blade Runner or Minority Report, when people don’t care so much about the individual look of a car; it’s just a transport vehicle.

Having said that, driving the Tesla is sublime. I don’t care so much about the 0-60 time, but that immediate acceleration allows you to “place” the car quickly (which a lot of Tesla drivers seem to like to do). And before I handed the keys (figuratively) to my wife, I probably drove 20-30 miles in a parking lot, on the highway and through neighborhood streets...without ever touching the brake pedal. It’s easy to get used to that.

It’ll be interesting to see how the Mach E competes - by all accounts it seems to be faring well. But I do need to find a Ford dealership, or at least a salesperson, who seems interested in the product.

And then the Rivian comes later this year - that may combine the driving characteristics of the Tesla with a more robust design. But their SUV is also 202” long.

So, was your favorable impression of the Tesla enough for you to be on-board with one?

Oh definitely.

A friend of mine just ordered one over the weekend. Grey dual motor. While helping him out with spec, I drove both the LR and Performance Y on Wednesday. It does drive really well, and I think it's the best overall daily Tesla currently makes. Right size, right config, right balance. Also, I didn't feel like the dual motor gave up much to the Performance in the real world, and it rode better too.

When you need a referral code, let me know

How did you feel the Y's handling, performance and comfort compared to your 3?

If I went with a Y as our daily "utility" car, I actually prefer the no up-charge white, we like the black interior with its wood trim, and for its purpose, I'd be fine with the standard wheels. So there are no compromises for me on the "base" level AWD Y at $49,990 (plus $1,200 I guess for D&H). Pretty good deal, plus at least we get a $2,500 incentive still from CO.

To the extent I would consider going the Model 3 route instead as a replacement for the fun car, I'd at least consider the Performance model. I'm a bit skeptical on the ride quality though on the 20" wheels and sport suspension.

The 3 handles better, and feels quicker. It is something like 400 lbs lighter with the same drivetrain, so no surprise there. But, the Y is more comfortable, rides better and feels noticeably more spacious inside. The dual motor Y I drove had the optional 20” wheels, and I felt the ride quality was very good. Remember the Performance comes with 21”, but also with a stiffer suspension that rides 1” lower then the standard car Corners very flat, but I think it’s too harsh. The standard car on 20” was a good compromise and would be my choice. Agile enough, but still comfortable. Like I said, great daily. If I’m choosing today between Y and 3 for our use case (wife’s daily driver) I’d pick the Y.

tifighter

I realize I should also qualify the “quicker” comment. Unless you are used to driving cars that do 0-60 sub four seconds, the standard dual motor Y is plenty quick. Plenty. It’s still something like a mid 4 second car. And the passing ability with instant torque and no transmission just doesn’t compare to a ICE car. I doubt you’d be disappointed.

Michaell

tifighter said:

I realize I should also qualify the “quicker” comment. Unless you are used to driving cars that do 0-60 sub four seconds, the standard dual motor Y is plenty quick. Plenty. It’s still something like a mid 4 second car. And the passing ability with instant torque and no transmission just doesn’t compare to a ICE car. I doubt you’d be disappointed.

My 10 minute test drive in a Model 3 dual motor absolutely supports that position. My wife, who has always chosen the model of car with more HP, would be giddy if I ever put her behind the wheel of a Tesla.

qbrozen

I apologize for the repeat to those who may have read this elsewhere.
Here is what happened this morn with that Camaro.

Salesperson: Please know that vehicle has actually been sold. Is this the only vehicle you are interested in?
Me: Of course. Nope, your only other unit is too expensive. Thanks.
SP: Please forgive me I have just been informed that the vehicle is not sold but we do not do New Jersey leases here at our dealership.

Ok… so, let’s break this down … your website allows for all the info to make an NJ deal, and when the car is “sold,” you can offer me a different car. But now you can’t work with NJ. Hmmmm… how about this explanation? Your SM realized the discount was screwed up (nearly 10% pre-incentive) and didn’t want to honor the deal. You thought you could bump me into the more expensive model. When I balked, you realized you aren’t getting my business anyway and I would see when the other one is NOT taken down from your site, so you came up with a different excuse. Am I getting warm?

tjc78

Games they play...

28firefighter

this has to be your worst foray yet, @qbrozen.

au1994

As I have said before, in this day and time of available information, it shocks me that dealers still play games. I guess there are still enough uninformed consumers out there to enable it.

Gives me visions of a guy with bad hair and a garish plaid coat asking me ‘what’s it gonna take to get you to buy a car today?’

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

this has to be your worst foray yet, @qbrozen.

Well ... we are talking Chevy dealers here. LOL.
I'll have to figure out how to sum up all the interactions today. If I actually needed a vehicle, I'd probably be frustrated. As it is, I'm simply amused.

pensfan83

qbrozen said:

28firefighter said:

this has to be your worst foray yet, @qbrozen.

As it is, I'm simply amused.

Me too. Keep the stories coming!

fintail

In these days of social media reviews everywhere, amazing that such idiocy exists - just begging to be put on blast.

breld

pensfan83 said:

qbrozen said:

28firefighter said:

this has to be your worst foray yet, @qbrozen.

As it is, I'm simply amused.

Me too. Keep the stories coming!

Agreed.

breld

tifighter said:

I realize I should also qualify the “quicker” comment. Unless you are used to driving cars that do 0-60 sub four seconds, the standard dual motor Y is plenty quick. Plenty. It’s still something like a mid 4 second car. And the passing ability with instant torque and no transmission just doesn’t compare to a ICE car. I doubt you’d be disappointed.

So how does the Model 3 you own and the Model Y you test drove compare to your Model X (different class and purpose I know)?

qbrozen

ok, let's see ... so I relayed the one story. I had 2 other places claim they won't deal with Nj. Well, not totally. So one said they won't work out of state deals, but they said it immediately, so I can respect that. Other one texted me, called me, and emailed me. I repeated my offer, to which he replied with a request for me to fill out a credit app and to confirm my full address.

I gave my address, again, and said I would not fill out the app until we have a deal, but rest assure my credit will not be a problem. A little later, he replies, "I just spoke with my manager. Being that this is a new vehicle, you will have to come to the store."

Funny that took so long to come up. Glad I didn't fill out that credit app. So I thanked him for his time. He then writes back, "so will you be here sometime this week?" LOL! I said "No. I live in NJ. I won't be coming to your store."

explorerx4

@qbrozen,
Lots of dealers are offering to bring the vehicle to you to test drive.

corvette

qbrozen said:

I said "No. I live in NJ. I won't be coming to your store."

I know we live for the thrill of the chase, but this is more of an annoyance than a thrill... Are there any brokers on LH still offering deals on these?

qbrozen

Not sure posting this pic will work, but hopefully y'all can see this exchange. Easier than typing it out. I've cropped out names since I know Edmunds does not like that sort of thing. This was a different dealer, but they use the same purchase/lease tool as the other dealer who claimed it was sold but then it wasn't.

qbrozen

corvette said:

qbrozen said:

I said "No. I live in NJ. I won't be coming to your store."

I know we live for the thrill of the chase, but this is more of an annoyance than a thrill... Are there any brokers on LH still offering deals on these?

Not that I have seen.

Silver lining: wife will be happy I couldn't pull it off.

qbrozen

Oh yeah ... so we have that one SM who ghosted me after I shot holes through his number. Salesperson texts me this evening asking if I got the quote.

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

Also, it appears that the itch that we all seem to have has no boundaries... I've been jonesing to either buy a beater or start looking for a replacement for the Tundra, despite the fact that there's over a year left on its lease. Never mind that I'm having to do a lot of leisure driving to hit the allowed mileage on the Tundra, or the fact that I'm recovering from a foot injury and it would be difficult to physically browse for or do work on a project car right now.

A beater? You could browse my driveway. I have a couple you could have cheap that run ok that you could have fun with. What’s your pleasure, top down cruising, hauling firewood or hauling junk to the dump?

We have a wide selection.

Sandman6472

Hit 66K earlier today...and all is well! At dinner, talked about going electric or maybe a hybrid and got a positive response to both which surprised me. I could do electric quite easily since I don't drive much anymore and if one vehicle were electric, would like the other to be a regular or hybrid engine just for the longer range and if we need it to go see the kids up in Orlando. Charging on the road is getting a bit better as more and more charging stations are coming online but could be an issue some places. And if we did have one, would definitely have to retrofit the garage to accommodate the quicker charger. Think with the regular outlet, a 12 hour charging period is the norm which could be an issue. But, at least there has been some movement in this area as to what comes next.
One tire on the Audi is really in need of a replacement I noticed earlier today. The other three are much newer so have to get on the horn and try to locate that one tire to match the others. Personally, I'd just swap out the others if they're more than half way used to have a matched set or even get two/two and go from there. Told her we'll need to get the car out of the driveway and see where each tire stands tread-wise. I'd rather replace before their time so as not to get that emergency phone call while I'm at work screaming "help"! She would rather wait till it's definitely needed so, that's what we'll do and let the cards fall where they may. I'm much more conservative in certain things and as we all know, I hate any vehicular drama whatsoever!

28firefighter

So. @qbrozen. How many dealers have you burned through today?