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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,591
    breld said:

    oldfarmer50 said:

    breld said:

    Right in our backyard, @michaell.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3ROv1l8K/2009-mazdaspeed3

    I found one near me too.

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/cohoes-2003-mazda-protege-mazdaspeed/7264657739.html

    I briefly considered one of these when I made my first new car purchase in 22 years but eventually went with the Eclipse since it had the same 263 hp.

    It’s amazing how that horsepower seemed great back in the mid 2000s but now that would be considered kiddie car power.
    That is seriously cool.
    +1

    Is the price correct?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,700
    Probably close if it is clean and rust free.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    oldfarmer50 said:

    breld said:

    Right in our backyard, @michaell.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3ROv1l8K/2009-mazdaspeed3

    I found one near me too.

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/cohoes-2003-mazda-protege-mazdaspeed/7264657739.html

    I briefly considered one of these when I made my first new car purchase in 22 years but eventually went with the Eclipse since it had the same 263 hp.

    It’s amazing how that horsepower seemed great back in the mid 2000s but now that would be considered kiddie car power.
    Check it out. If no rust, throw a low offer, then flip it on BaT. ;)

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,446
    Every Protege that I've seen is eaten up by rust in the wheel well arches and rocker panels.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,700
    Low enough miles that if it was always a summer toy, might be ok. But it certainly needs a good PPI.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,412
    stickguy said:

    I like the protege. A touch pricey but might be worth it if a PPI is good. Especially looking underneath. Too bad it’s black though.

    Those were real rust buckets up here. Mazda still carries that reputation among many locally although I understand they have improved that aspect recently. Would need a very detailed inspection while up on a lift.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,360
    stickguy said:

    I like the protege. A touch pricey but might be worth it if a PPI is good. Especially looking underneath. Too bad it’s black though.

    Pricey? Edmunds says it’s priced double what it’s worth.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,360
    kyfdx said:

    Every Protege that I've seen is eaten up by rust in the wheel well arches and rocker panels.

    Every car PERIOD in this area is eaten by rust if driven in winter. That Mazda was evidently bought at a local dealer if you believe the license plate bracket. A lot of cars here that are toys are stored for the winter. That’s what I do with mine, even the 21 year old hooptie.

    The ad says the hood was repainted. I’d want to know why.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,604
    Oof that stinks. If it wasn't a lease, I wouldn't fix it - it's a truck! It needs a little battle damage :)
    nyccarguy said:

    @oldfarmer50

    Yes it is a lease. I will fix it.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,604
    Power has increased with weight. I swear a new Civic is the size of a 2001 Accord.

    Re: paint, Mazdas of that era seem prone to cosmetic/body decay, maybe it sat outside in the summer, or had poor prior paintwork,.
    oldfarmer50 said:


    I briefly considered one of these when I made my first new car purchase in 22 years but eventually went with the Eclipse since it had the same 263 hp.

    It’s amazing how that horsepower seemed great back in the mid 2000s but now that would be considered kiddie car power.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    oldfarmer50 said:

    stickguy said:

    I like the protege. A touch pricey but might be worth it if a PPI is good. Especially looking underneath. Too bad it’s black though.

    Pricey? Edmunds says it’s priced double what it’s worth.
    a car like that is worth more than any online book will tell you. We may recall one sold not long ago on C&B. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rwAZvwvl/2003-mazdaspeed-protege
    Had lower miles, but not a great color and definitely had some needs. The Albany car could be just as needy, but only an inspection would tell. Plus, although many of us don't like black, it sells on a sporty car. If the black one is clean, I'd say $5k is fair.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,591
    qbrozen said:

    oldfarmer50 said:

    stickguy said:

    I like the protege. A touch pricey but might be worth it if a PPI is good. Especially looking underneath. Too bad it’s black though.

    Pricey? Edmunds says it’s priced double what it’s worth.
    a car like that is worth more than any online book will tell you. We may recall one sold not long ago on C&B. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rwAZvwvl/2003-mazdaspeed-protege
    Had lower miles, but not a great color and definitely had some needs. The Albany car could be just as needy, but only an inspection would tell. Plus, although many of us don't like black, it sells on a sporty car. If the black one is clean, I'd say $5k is fair.
    Sounds like a perfect candidate for the @qbrozen car flipping business

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    oldfarmer50 said:

    kyfdx said:

    Every Protege that I've seen is eaten up by rust in the wheel well arches and rocker panels.

    Every car PERIOD in this area is eaten by rust if driven in winter. That Mazda was evidently bought at a local dealer if you believe the license plate bracket. A lot of cars here that are toys are stored for the winter. That’s what I do with mine, even the 21 year old hooptie.

    The ad says the hood was repainted. I’d want to know why.
    My Prelude came from the Albany area and never saw a salted road in its life so it is feasible this didn't either. I also don't know if Mazda's suffered from the same paint issues as Honda's of that era did but mine was resprayed as well. Honda's red was notorious for its fade to a light pink.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,700
    My BIL that lives a bit west of OF, so deep in salt country, has the cleanest cars around. He’s the guy that had an S2000 and replaced it with a cobra kit car. And a Jag sedan (XF hot rod). None of his good ones ever see a salted road. He has an old tundra for that. The nice stuff hibernates until roads are clear.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,888
    Funny thing is, I saw a Protege today, can't remember the last time i saw one.
    Yup, it was pretty rusty.
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,360
    nyccarguy said:

    qbrozen said:

    oldfarmer50 said:

    stickguy said:

    I like the protege. A touch pricey but might be worth it if a PPI is good. Especially looking underneath. Too bad it’s black though.

    Pricey? Edmunds says it’s priced double what it’s worth.
    a car like that is worth more than any online book will tell you. We may recall one sold not long ago on C&B. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rwAZvwvl/2003-mazdaspeed-protege
    Had lower miles, but not a great color and definitely had some needs. The Albany car could be just as needy, but only an inspection would tell. Plus, although many of us don't like black, it sells on a sporty car. If the black one is clean, I'd say $5k is fair.
    Sounds like a perfect candidate for the @qbrozen car flipping business
    Pretty hard to turn a profit on an $8,000 car that sells for $5,000.

    Maybe he can make it up on volume. ;)

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,956
    I'm really curious about this manual M240i:

    https://www.bmwofdallas.com/certified/BMW/2018-BMW-M240i-85df57460a0e097130ba46823349ba7f.htm

    No pictures yet, but mineral gray over oyster should be an attractive combo. And I confirmed via the VIN that it really is a manual.

    Wish it were closer, but as it stands Dallas isn't too far. I did pick up my wife's GLC from there a few years ago.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,700
    That one does sound great. I wouldn’t mind having it.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,956
    Just called on that M240 - already spoken for. It seems the small population of manual-loving buyers are quick on the draw.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,448
    breld said:

    I'm really curious about this manual M240i:

    https://www.bmwofdallas.com/certified/BMW/2018-BMW-M240i-85df57460a0e097130ba46823349ba7f.htm

    No pictures yet, but mineral gray over oyster should be an attractive combo. And I confirmed via the VIN that it really is a manual.

    Wish it were closer, but as it stands Dallas isn't too far. I did pick up my wife's GLC from there a few years ago.

    BMW of Louisville has a fully optioned Mineral Gray/Coral Red 240i xDrive automatic; if it was RWD and had three pedals I’d be sorely tempted.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,956
    Interesting to me that cars.com comes up with listings for Mach-E's with actual pictures and even a discounted price over MSRP.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/831399339/overview/

    Seems to indicate there is available inventory for purchase.

    Like most new models, especially EVs, certainly best to wait for the initial rollout to finish and see where true demand ends up.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.
    Stunned they won’t play ball. Middle of winter can’t be prime selling season for Camaros.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,730
    fintail said:

    Power has increased with weight. I swear a new Civic is the size of a 2001 Accord.

    Re: paint, Mazdas of that era seem prone to cosmetic/body decay, maybe it sat outside in the summer, or had poor prior paintwork,.


    oldfarmer50 said:


    I briefly considered one of these when I made my first new car purchase in 22 years but eventually went with the Eclipse since it had the same 263 hp.

    It’s amazing how that horsepower seemed great back in the mid 2000s but now that would be considered kiddie car power.

    I believe you are correct and the 3 series is now the same size as the 5 used to be, A4 to A6 etc, etc.

    GM even made the new Tahoe/Yukon bigger.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,730
    edited February 2021
    tjc78 said:

    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.
    Stunned they won’t play ball. Middle of winter can’t be prime selling season for Camaros.
    True but even at the end of the year I couldn’t find anyone looking to deal. I put feelers out on an Q5 and XC60 and got absolutely junk numbers on the Volvo and a refusal to do any numbers on the Audi. Several years ago when we go the X6, the dealer was stumbling all over themselves to get the deal done at the same time of the year.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    tjc78 said:

    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.
    Stunned they won’t play ball. Middle of winter can’t be prime selling season for Camaros.
    Yeah, I'm pretty surprised. They are even holding tight on the one manual I found. And I'm not even asking for the moon on that one, thanks to the low MSRP. A very reasonable 5% discount, along with base MF, would get it done. Oh well!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,627
    au1994 said:

    tjc78 said:

    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.
    Stunned they won’t play ball. Middle of winter can’t be prime selling season for Camaros.
    True but even at the end of the year I couldn’t find anyone looking to deal. I put feelers out on an Q5 and XC60 and got absolutely junk numbers on the Volvo and a refusal to do any numbers on the Audi. Several years ago when we go the X6, the dealer was stumbling all over themselves to get the deal done at the same time of the year.
    I think short supply and rebounding demand puts the dealer in the drivers seat, negotiation wise.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    breld said:

    Interesting to me that cars.com comes up with listings for Mach-E's with actual pictures and even a discounted price over MSRP.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/831399339/overview/

    Seems to indicate there is available inventory for purchase.

    Like most new models, especially EVs, certainly best to wait for the initial rollout to finish and see where true demand ends up.

    Well, if they are anything like the Chevy dealers I have been encountering, that price means nothing.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,730
    Michaell said:

    au1994 said:

    tjc78 said:

    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.
    Stunned they won’t play ball. Middle of winter can’t be prime selling season for Camaros.
    True but even at the end of the year I couldn’t find anyone looking to deal. I put feelers out on an Q5 and XC60 and got absolutely junk numbers on the Volvo and a refusal to do any numbers on the Audi. Several years ago when we go the X6, the dealer was stumbling all over themselves to get the deal done at the same time of the year.
    I think short supply and rebounding demand puts the dealer in the drivers seat, negotiation wise.
    True. I was scanning the site for the Toyota dealer around the corner: 6 Tacoma’s, 12 4Runners and this is no small dealer. The numbers are usually double + that on both of those models. Interestingly enough they had 3 Land Cruisers. The dealer principal couldn’t have been happy about that. Expensive, niche truck. Those may sit for a while or will likey be dealer traded somewhere else.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,762
    breld said:

    Just called on that M240 - already spoken for. It seems the small population of manual-loving buyers are quick on the draw.

    You are but a grasshopper among locusts! :D
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,888
    edited February 2021
    @breld,
    Those pictures of the Mach-E are brochure art, not actual pictures.
    Guessing the price is after some kind of credit.
    Here's a link to a regular Mustang(dealer doesn't have a Mach-E listed)
    https://www.hoffmanfordct.com/new/Ford/2020-Ford-Mustang-east-hartford-ct-bfcbe0690a0e0ae71467e8957fd7e92a.htm
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  • greg128greg128 Member Posts: 546
    edited February 2021
    found this on Craigslist near me and was ready to look and buy. Emailed him and he emailed back saying he just sold it to someone from Baltimore. Post is still up here:
    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-babylon-1999-camaro-z28-speed-56k/7263755592.html

    very disappointed
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    greg128 said:

    found this on Craigslist near me and was ready to look and buy. Emailed him and he emailed back saying he just sold it to someone from Baltimore. Post is still up here:
    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-babylon-1999-camaro-z28-speed-56k/7263755592.html

    Consider yourself lucky. Those things felt like they were falling apart straight from the factory, IMHO.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.
    Stunned they won’t play ball. Middle of winter can’t be prime selling season for Camaros.
    Yeah, I'm pretty surprised. They are even holding tight on the one manual I found. And I'm not even asking for the moon on that one, thanks to the low MSRP. A very reasonable 5% discount, along with base MF, would get it done. Oh well!
    Any LH brokers?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    tjc78 said:

    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    qbrozen said:

    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any luck breaking a Chevy dealer yet?

    Nope. And I even discovered an extra $750 through wifey’s work.
    Stunned they won’t play ball. Middle of winter can’t be prime selling season for Camaros.
    Yeah, I'm pretty surprised. They are even holding tight on the one manual I found. And I'm not even asking for the moon on that one, thanks to the low MSRP. A very reasonable 5% discount, along with base MF, would get it done. Oh well!
    Any LH brokers?
    Not that I have seen.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,700
    It's Babylon. Half of the mid-model Camaros in existence are probably within 20 miles of there.

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  • greg128greg128 Member Posts: 546
    edited February 2021
    qbrozen said:

    greg128 said:

    found this on Craigslist near me and was ready to look and buy. Emailed him and he emailed back saying he just sold it to someone from Baltimore. Post is still up here:
    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-babylon-1999-camaro-z28-speed-56k/7263755592.html

    Consider yourself lucky. Those things felt like they were falling apart straight from the factory, IMHO.
    My son had a V-6 version and I thought it was fine. A few rattles but nothing major. The beauty of buying something like this is that it is cheap enough not to have to worry about garaging it and my driving it only a few thousand miles a year would not need collision insurance. It would be a fun ride and parts are cheap and I could sell it in a couple of years for more than I paid.

    There are some great reviews of this generation on youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbTuTOPESS0
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,991
    edited February 2021
    Sandman6472 said:

    Got to drive the A3 tonight and it drove great! Just over 60K on the clock and even though it has the same 1.8t that my Golf has, felt zero turbo lag...none whatsoever! Impressive because I have to put the shifter into "S" mode to get rid of that annoying lag...it's extremely annoying to pull away from a stop and feel it every damn time! And I don't always remember to put the lever in "S" mode and if I do, usually forget to go back to "D", so am using more rpm's then needed.
    So, what's my option here? Or what am I doing wrong to be having to deal with this turbo lag? Doubtful that using premium fuel would help it but seems like a waste of $ to switch over. That's my biggest complaint with it really. But quite annoying all the same.

    There are TCU (Transmission Software) tunes out there. Might solve your problem, costs about $500 to $600 installed; most give money back (except for the $50 install charge) within 30 days if you don't like it or it doesn't fix what you don't like.

    APR has tunes for both ECU and TCU that use 87 octane on the 1.8T. I should know, I tuned the Alltrack to 91 and it was an option to stay with 87; but I figured if I was tuning for more power, might as well maximize it.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,991
    edited February 2021
    tjc78 said:

    Yep, just like I did on the Enclave. No blending, etc. Just a nice patch and respray. Cash job, no insurance.

    The inspector did call it out with a paint gauge meter, but no excess charges as in their mind it was repaired properly

    Industry standards are very low; so most anything will be accepted as "repaired properly." Even different shades of red.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,700
    This. I want it. Though I would simplify a lot by skipping the turbos. Man it looks like fun

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZj3Te91VuA

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,991
    oldfarmer50 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    @oldfarmer50

    Yes it is a lease. I will fix it.

    That’s too bad, that kind of nonsense is bound to happen driving/parking in the city. A lot of owners just let minor scrapes go because they know if they fix it some yahoo will just hit it again. :'(
    With my luck only my pristinely clean cars get hit, the ones with scrapes, scratches, and chips never get hit.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,991
    edited February 2021
    breld said:

    Just called on that M240 - already spoken for. It seems the small population of manual-loving buyers are quick on the draw.

    The sporty enthusiast models are becoming very rare. That's making their real values go up (or at least make sales quicker) when they are sought after used. I learned this phenomenon well recently, comparing A4's to S4's. If you use too much math and logic, the S4 doesn't makes sense, or you have to lie to yourself and say the A4 is just under-valued.

    Still, while A4's languish on lots sometimes; I don't think I saw any S4's languish at all unless it had some serious issues.
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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,807
    breld said:

    Just called on that M240 - already spoken for. It seems the small population of manual-loving buyers are quick on the draw.

    That's why I pulled the trigger so fast on the Z4. A high spec manual was probably special-ordered; comps are hard to find.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,700
    used cars are like houses. If you stumble upon what you really want, better act quick because if it is nice and/or a good value, if you don't someone else will.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    stickguy said:

    used cars are like houses. If you stumble upon what you really want, better act quick because if it is nice and/or a good value, if you don't someone else will.

    This. I couldn’t believe how many houses got sold before we even got to see them.

    Everything happens for a reason, as the one we got is nicer and newer than many of the ones that we initially picked.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,625
    pensfan83 said:

    Honda's red was notorious for its fade to a light pink.

    This is most certainly true.

    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,730
    Lots of manufacturers struggled with paint in that era. I believe it had something with the move from solvent based to water based paints and they just hadn’t worked the kinks out of the formulation yet. I had a red 89 Beretta that I got in 90. While the paint didn’t fade, it was already orange peeled on the roof after only a year.

    2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
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    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,888
    @greg128,
    Too bad about missing out on that Camaro if it was as good as it looked.
    My SIL had one, it was fun to drive and sounded great.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,423
    greg128 said:

    [1999 z28 2 owner 56k miles 6 speed ]

    In Jeremy Clarkson voice: Only two previous murderers!
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