Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

breld

Since I've had serious thoughts of moving on from the Supra, I got an update from Carvana. When I was evaluating trade offers a couple weeks ago, the offer was $45,700, which was the highest offer between trades from dealers and Vroom.

For kicks, I updated that value and Carvana came back with $49,236. I don't get it - based on what they're listing Supras for, it doesn't give much of any profit. And that's $1,500 higher than what I paid last June.

On one hand, I sorta want to take the money and run...puts me in good position for the next move. On the other hand, I finally picked a car that I like and apparently holds its value so well, maybe it should be a keeper!

omarman

He said "keeper!" I like this show.

corvette

If you've had it almost a year and have an offer in hand for Carvana to buy it for more than you paid, I say take the money and run.

tifighter

breld said:

Since I've had serious thoughts of moving on from the Supra, I got an update from Carvana. When I was evaluating trade offers a couple weeks ago, the offer was $45,700, which was the highest offer between trades from dealers and Vroom.

For kicks, I updated that value and Carvana came back with $49,236. I don't get it - based on what they're listing Supras for, it doesn't give much of any profit. And that's $1,500 higher than what I paid last June.

On one hand, I sorta want to take the money and run...puts me in good position for the next move. On the other hand, I finally picked a car that I like and apparently holds its value so well, maybe it should be a keeper!

You know I like that Supra.

That's one heck of an offer. I don't think I could turn that down.

stickguy

omarman said:

He said "keeper!" I like this show.

stickguy

tifighter said:

breld said:

Since I've had serious thoughts of moving on from the Supra, I got an update from Carvana. When I was evaluating trade offers a couple weeks ago, the offer was $45,700, which was the highest offer between trades from dealers and Vroom.

For kicks, I updated that value and Carvana came back with $49,236. I don't get it - based on what they're listing Supras for, it doesn't give much of any profit. And that's $1,500 higher than what I paid last June.

On one hand, I sorta want to take the money and run...puts me in good position for the next move. On the other hand, I finally picked a car that I like and apparently holds its value so well, maybe it should be a keeper!

You know I like that Supra.

That's one heck of an offer. I don't think I could turn that down.

if you know it is going anyway, might as well. Only question would be if it qualifies for a tax credit on a trade, and if so, how much?

Wonder if any local dealer with an M2 (or tesla, or polestar...) would match that so he can double dip?

breld

Yeah, I'm definitely tempted.

Since it's merely an eventuality to find the next fun car, it'd be a great way to reset and be in a position to shop without a trade.

[Deleted User]

How often can you get out of a vehicle after such a short period of having it and break even, or come out ahead? But do you tell it Sayonara or Auf Wiedersehen?

breld

stickguy said:

tifighter said:

breld said:

Since I've had serious thoughts of moving on from the Supra, I got an update from Carvana. When I was evaluating trade offers a couple weeks ago, the offer was $45,700, which was the highest offer between trades from dealers and Vroom.

For kicks, I updated that value and Carvana came back with $49,236. I don't get it - based on what they're listing Supras for, it doesn't give much of any profit. And that's $1,500 higher than what I paid last June.

On one hand, I sorta want to take the money and run...puts me in good position for the next move. On the other hand, I finally picked a car that I like and apparently holds its value so well, maybe it should be a keeper!

You know I like that Supra.

That's one heck of an offer. I don't think I could turn that down.

if you know it is going anyway, might as well. Only question would be if it qualifies for a tax credit on a trade, and if so, how much?

Wonder if any local dealer with an M2 (or tesla, or polestar...) would match that so he can double dip?

There's a guy on my tennis team who has a 2005 Corvette that he bought new and it's in excellent shape with low miles. There's part of me that wishes I could be that guy who "bought that Supra back in 2020 when they came out and now I've had it for 15 years." But clearly, I'm not. Not even close. Maybe one day.

The no-haggle BMW dealer with the M2 offered $44,000 for the Supra on trade. Because they are no haggle on their car price, I figure that's an honest trade value. The independent dealer with the 2017 M2 that really wanted to do a deal maxed out at $44,500.

So this $49k offer from Carvana is actually a bit better than those trades PLUS the tax savings.

If I decide to go through with it, I'm half expecting Carvana to say they made a mistake on the offer.

tifighter

Take them up on the offer.

Shoot, if you like the Supra so much , you could negotiate a 21 Supra with the improvements for around the same, I'd guess.

Or, thank Carvana for changing your Y reservation to a Performance.

sda

I agree, take the money!

explorerx4

Opportunities can be fleeting.

Michaell

I guess I’m the only one suggesting that @breld holds on to the Supra.

oldfarmer50

breld said:

Polestar 2 test drive process was slick. The car was waiting for us right in front of our office at the scheduled time of 11:45. The “salesperson” gave us a quick rundown of the vehicle and then let us go on our own for a test drive (about half an hour). When we returned she obviously asked what we thought, and then whisked the car away.

Sharp looking. Was the acceleration as impressive as the Tesla S?

Michaell

@oldfarmer50 - are you skipping over posts?

From @breld - Driving wise, it competes well with the Model 3, which is to say it was wonderful. Acceleration was quick - I think it splits the difference between a “regular” Model 3 and the Model 3 Performance.

stickguy

that Polestar does look like a XL sized 4 door tC. But I do like it.

28firefighter

I’ve posted this before...but especially timely on the Supra:

You gotta know when hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em...

Sandman6472

So where does this leave the Leaf? If the Supra goes, does the Leaf go also? I'm still a bit confused here.

qbrozen

breld said:

stickguy said:

tifighter said:

breld said:

Since I've had serious thoughts of moving on from the Supra, I got an update from Carvana. When I was evaluating trade offers a couple weeks ago, the offer was $45,700, which was the highest offer between trades from dealers and Vroom.

For kicks, I updated that value and Carvana came back with $49,236. I don't get it - based on what they're listing Supras for, it doesn't give much of any profit. And that's $1,500 higher than what I paid last June.

On one hand, I sorta want to take the money and run...puts me in good position for the next move. On the other hand, I finally picked a car that I like and apparently holds its value so well, maybe it should be a keeper!

You know I like that Supra.

That's one heck of an offer. I don't think I could turn that down.

if you know it is going anyway, might as well. Only question would be if it qualifies for a tax credit on a trade, and if so, how much?

Wonder if any local dealer with an M2 (or tesla, or polestar...) would match that so he can double dip?

There's a guy on my tennis team who has a 2005 Corvette that he bought new and it's in excellent shape with low miles. There's part of me that wishes I could be that guy who "bought that Supra back in 2020 when they came out and now I've had it for 15 years." But clearly, I'm not. Not even close. Maybe one day.

The no-haggle BMW dealer with the M2 offered $44,000 for the Supra on trade. Because they are no haggle on their car price, I figure that's an honest trade value. The independent dealer with the 2017 M2 that really wanted to do a deal maxed out at $44,500.

So this $49k offer from Carvana is actually a bit better than those trades PLUS the tax savings.

If I decide to go through with it, I'm half expecting Carvana to say they made a mistake on the offer.

Take it.

You are going to replace it anyway, might as well take a profit now than a loss when you change your mind in 2 weeks.

roadburner

The dealer where I looked at a Supra has the 3.0 Premium with the Nanny Package for a tick under $51k- do I'd take the $49k and upgrade.

nyccarguy

@breld - it’s very hard to argue with an offer of $1,500 MORE than you paid for it last June. On the other hand, that’s quite a sick car you’ve got there.

stickguy

there are lots of other sick cars out there to try though. Gotta move fast if you want to get through them all!

breld

nyccarguy said:

@breld - it’s very hard to argue with an offer of $1,500 MORE than you paid for it last June. On the other hand, that’s quite a sick car you’ve got there.

Agreed - on its own merits, it wouldn’t be worth selling it just for the cash offer. But since I’ve been looking/obsessing recently, it’s a good opportunity to reset and start from scratch.

breld

For kicks I refreshed my offer with Vroom and it remained the same at $43,000.

I’m still prepared for Carvana to say there was a glitch and retract their offer, but I’ve submitted all my documents and it’s in their court for review now.

breld

Sandman6472 said:

So where does this leave the Leaf? If the Supra goes, does the Leaf go also? I'm still a bit confused here.

So the Leaf will now become the “contrast” to the X3...just a different kind of contrast.

I still will turn back the Leaf sooner than later, but this will allow me to enjoy the cheap lease for longer.

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

@oldfarmer50 - are you skipping over posts?

From @breld - Driving wise, it competes well with the Model 3, which is to say it was wonderful. Acceleration was quick - I think it splits the difference between a “regular” Model 3 and the Model 3 Performance.

I was asking about the model S which is the only one with which I have any seat time. I know nothing about the model 3.

Or are they the same thing?

breld

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

@oldfarmer50 - are you skipping over posts?

From @breld - Driving wise, it competes well with the Model 3, which is to say it was wonderful. Acceleration was quick - I think it splits the difference between a “regular” Model 3 and the Model 3 Performance.

I was asking about the model S which is the only one with which I have any seat time. I know nothing about the model 3.

Or are they the same thing?

I actually haven’t driven a Model S, so can’t make that comparison. But the Polestar 2 is somewhere in the 4’s for 0-60.

The immediacy and quick nature of the acceleration in these EVs is pretty crazy. Not saying it replaces the visceral response the driver gets from a V8 (like Q’s Camaro) or a nice inline 6 from BMW, but it’s thrilling in its own right.

qbrozen

breld said:

Polestar 2 test drive process was slick. The car was waiting for us right in front of our office at the scheduled time of 11:45. The “salesperson” gave us a quick rundown of the vehicle and then let us go on our own for a test drive (about half an hour). When we returned she obviously asked what we thought, and then whisked the car away.

I had no idea that was even out yet. What is the seating height? Closer to a car or to a CUV?

tifighter

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

@oldfarmer50 - are you skipping over posts?

From @breld - Driving wise, it competes well with the Model 3, which is to say it was wonderful. Acceleration was quick - I think it splits the difference between a “regular” Model 3 and the Model 3 Performance.

I was asking about the model S which is the only one with which I have any seat time. I know nothing about the model 3.

Or are they the same thing?

The S models I've seen in the Enterprise fleet were S 75 models. These were low to mid 4 second cars IIRC. So the Polestar should be similar. The 3 ranges from somewhere like 5.2 sec for the base models to 3.1 sec for the Performance.

But these days, the new base model S is down to 3.1 sec. And we won't even talk about the Plaid.

rny421

nyccarguy said:

There are some incredibly strong Audi E-Tron deals floating around out there on ye olde interwebs

*ahem*............. may have news to share

breld

qbrozen said:

breld said:

Polestar 2 test drive process was slick. The car was waiting for us right in front of our office at the scheduled time of 11:45. The “salesperson” gave us a quick rundown of the vehicle and then let us go on our own for a test drive (about half an hour). When we returned she obviously asked what we thought, and then whisked the car away.

I had no idea that was even out yet. What is the seating height? Closer to a car or to a CUV?

It felt more like a car as far as seating height. I believe it’s a bit shorter than the Model 3 too, so while it’s raised just a bit (I assume that’s due to sharing a platform with the XC40), it’s sort of a premium hot hatch of the EV world.

breld

rny421 said:

nyccarguy said:

There are some incredibly strong Audi E-Tron deals floating around out there on ye olde interwebs

*ahem*............. may have news to share

Do share. Pics and all the details please.

xwesx

Saw something interesting today: A pair of MachE's sitting out in front of the local B&N store. I was taking my son to work and spotted them just after dropping him off. They were both equipped with some sort of sensor/camera equipment on the outsides. One had minor bits of camo-cladding on it, but the other was just jet black. It looked like maybe they were manufacturer test mules that perhaps they were doing some sort of (late) winter testing on.

Unfortunately, I could not get a photo because I forgot my iPod at my office. These are really nice looking cars and far more aesthetically appealing than most other EV offerings out there. Hopefully Ford does very well with these and continues to dive headlong into the world of EVs.

breld

Based on our test drives last weekend, I think Ford will do well with its Mach E.

Having driven the Model Y, Mach E and now the Polestar2 in recent weeks, it’s nice to start having viable choices and much of the decision comes down to styling preference...like most other cars.

stickguy

now just need to get a nice EV with long range in a price normal people can afford!

explorerx4

Those Mach E's could have been the GT version which has not been released yet.

ab348

breld said:

I don't mean to be unkind, but that reminds me of an old Dodge Avenger. Not a good look.

qbrozen

Huh. I thought the Avenger was a decent looking car for its class. But I don't see it there. Reminds me of the last 9-5, though.

ab348

au1994

Hmmm...Carvana just gave me a quote on the X1 with ~$1200 in positive equity.

nyccarguy

au1994 said:

Hmmm...Carvana just gave me a quote on the X1 with ~$1200 in positive equity.

I just got a Carvana offer for the Pilot as well. I'm at about $10,300 in positive equity.

stickguy

I have tons of positive equity. And if I sold the wife’s car she would kill me.

sda

nyccarguy said:

au1994 said:

Hmmm...Carvana just gave me a quote on the X1 with ~$1200 in positive equity.

I just got a Carvana offer for the Pilot as well. I'm at about $10,300 in positive equity.

Got the itch? ?

nyccarguy

sda said:

nyccarguy said:

au1994 said:

Hmmm...Carvana just gave me a quote on the X1 with ~$1200 in positive equity.

I just got a Carvana offer for the Pilot as well. I'm at about $10,300 in positive equity.

Got the itch? ?

Always. Plus I could put the $10K to very good use.

stickguy

Good use, like paying for a new car for your wife?

breld

ab348 said:

breld said:

I don't mean to be unkind, but that reminds me of an old Dodge Avenger. Not a good look.

These first two Polestar models hardly stray from the Volvo design language, with the Polestar 1 resembling a coupe version of the S90 and of course this model looking like some interpretation of the XC40. Apparently the Polestar 3 (small SUV) is due out later this year and will be the first model to show off a more unique design for Polestar. Below is a concept that should turn into a coupe model soon.



Seems like it may be worth the wait for Polestar to come into their own a bit.

breld

And here's a rendering of that Polestar 3. Sort of reminds me of when Genesis initially was a more handsome Hyundai, and now the brand is showcasing their own distinct design.

breld

Speaking of Genesis, I do like the 2022 G70. Seems that model wears the new headlight and taillight design the best.

graphicguy

breld said:

Speaking of Genesis, I do like the 2022 G70. Seems that model wears the new headlight and taillight design the best.

I like the G70, too. Now that they’re starting to become more plentiful.......

breld

All my documents have been reviewed for sale of the Supra to Carvana and I'm able to book a pick up as early as Saturday. Seeing as an historical snowstorm is predicted for the weekend in Denver, I think I'll hold off until next week.

So, seems legit. Maybe Carvana is stocking up for Spring?