Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

mjfloyd1

@sda said:
@mjfloyd1

Is the Q7 eligible to be CPO'd? That may be a less costly option that provides bumper to bumper coverage.

Audi's certified pre-owned (CPO) program extends coverage by 1 year and unlimited miles past the expiration of the vehicle’s original 4-year/50,000 mile new car warranty. It also comes with a thorough inspection and often includes special financing rates.

Already a done deal. This way covers brake pads and rotors. That would have been a good option but the shipper is picking it up this afternoon.

He gave me dealer cost less kickbacks on everything too (except Audicare) so I’m ok with the cost.

Money already received by dealership too

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

@mjfloyd1 said:

Help. I know most of you are not extended warranty people but I don't want a European car out of warranty sooooooooo...

Audi branded extended warranty with brakes and rotors 6yr /72 k miles with $0 deductible for $3425 (only pays for one set of rotors and pads)

OR

Audi branded no consumables 7yr / 70 k miles $100 deductible for $2320

Audi branded 7yr / 100k miles $100 deductible for $3325

OR

Allstate 7 yr/ 85'k mile premier warranty ( no brakes or rotors) with $100 deductible for $2339

Allstate 7yr / 100 k miles $100 deductible for $2608

Audi branded is backed by safeguard and the upside is it is Audi branded. The downside is that if you cancel, they deduct the amount of claims. Fidelity and Allstate do not do that.

Audi branded warranty starts at in service date and 0 miles and extends to total miles listed.

Allstate starts at current date and mileage (7200) and extends to listed miles

Definitely a tough one. With an Audi, especially one with that level of electronics (digital dash) I’d say it is a very smart idea. I like the idea of the Audi Branded 6/72K with pads & rotors. Call your local dealer and inquire about how much a set of pads and rotors will cost you. It’s expensive at $3,425 plus tax, but the car already has 7,000 miles on it? You are going to need pads & rotors by 30K miles? Sounds like you are going to buy an extended warranty anyway, so I’d pay the extra $1,100 for the brakes.

$3425 for just brakes and rotors? Scratch Audi off my list. I thought the $2000 BMW brake job was a horror story but that’s ridiculous.

corvette

oldfarmer50 said:

$3425 for just brakes and rotors? Scratch Audi off my list. I thought the $2000 BMW brake job was a horror story but that’s ridiculous.

I think that is for the full warranty which includes wear items + most things that break.

henryn

The last time I considered buying an extended warranty was when I came close to buying the used Genesis. That thing had a lot of electronics, and I will admit that worried me. Searching online, I was able to determine that the $2k extended warranty through the dealer actually cost the dealer about $1k. I tried to negotiate on that, and the dealer told me he would rather go the CPO route for the same $1k added to the cost. A little more digging revealed that his cost on the CPO was only $750, so that left him another $250 in profit. The CPO was similar in some ways to the extended warranty, and quite different in others. That deal fell through anyway.

Back when I was buying used Cadillacs, I usually did the extended warranty through the dealer and just negotiated that as part of the overall deal. $XX out the door, to include this specific warranty. There is a very big markup on car warranties. Why else would they be calling you 10 times a day to try and sell you one? I find that it helps to let the dealer juggle the numbers so that he can show his profit where he wants it. The only thing that matters to me is the bottom line.

I do know from my reading in Ford truck forums that you can buy the factory extended warranty from any Ford dealer. And there are always dealers online who will sell you the warranty of your choice for actual cost. It seems they earn points for every Ford warranty they sell, and those points translate to lower cost for the vehicles they buy from Ford. This is yet another of those semi-crooked deals where it pays to do your homework. Kind of like SiriusXM. There are millions of people out there paying $200 a year, and then others who are paying around $75 a year.

mjfloyd1

@oldfarmer50 said:
$3425 for just brakes and rotors? Scratch Audi off my list. I thought the $2000 BMW brake job was a horror story but that’s ridiculous.

Exclusionary warranty that includes replacing brake pads and rotors. Very few things excluded.

The others listed were just the extended warranty and did not include brake pads and rotors

au1994

kyfdx said:

Wrangler 4xe guys: 36 month MF has dropped to .00172 from .00203 (as of 06/23) Through July.

No word on residual, yet.

Of course, that won't matter much to flippers.

Woo Hoo! Let’s hope the residuals hold too!

stickguy

at the moment, I think I veered back to looking at another lease at year end. Mostly to use savings for other purposes. But as long as the #s work on the spreadsheet for a potential buyout at the end, no worries if it is something I plan to keep long term.

does make it much simpler to go shopping (less stressful?) if you just need to sign some papers and take on a small payment, instead of sorting through finances to figure out where there is an extra $15,000-$20,000 laying around that you don't know what to do with!

andres3

corvette said:

breld said:

The manager at Volvo just called me back to apologize again and offer another $500 off. I politely explained to him where I was coming from given I didn't just rely on the online pricing but confirmed it with the salesman prior to coming in. He said he didn't realize it was confirmed with them, and said he'd talk to his managers and call me back.

That poor salesman is probably about to be given his walking papers!

or maybe a bonus because now they know he'll screw people over to attempt to make money.....

andres3

sda said:

@mjfloyd1

Is the Q7 eligible to be CPO'd? That may be a less costly option that provides bumper to bumper coverage.

Audi's certified pre-owned (CPO) program extends coverage by 1 year and unlimited miles past the expiration of the vehicle’s original 4-year/50,000 mile new car warranty. It also comes with a thorough inspection and often includes special financing rates.

That CPO is as good as the dealership doing the certifications and inspections. One has to wonder when even a rather good dealership replaces, brakes, rotors, brake pads, and cleans up the car nice, only to leave cracked dry-rotted tires on that make the steering wheel vibrate north of 70 MPH (I can't be the only one that ignores the speed limit on CA freeways). Of course, wasn't there an article where they got mad at a mechanic that tested a recent almost-new Corvette at 103 MPH on the freeway while it was in the shop? I considered that "doing his job" since it was just in a straight line with no funny business going on.

breld

Yesterday, before we decided on the Volvo, I emailed the sales manager at the MB dealership that was adding $1,500 - $5,000 markups on their GLE’s.

I politely said we were shopping seriously and understand other dealerships were offering modest discounts, and since they had models in stock that we may be interested in, whether they would be price competitive.

His response…

_I can understand your looking for a deal. We are using Market Adjustment for all inventory at this time. We are struggling with inventory and thus the premium. As someone is the housing industry you have seen the supply and demand and are riding that wave.

The deals these days is getting the vehicle you want. We have cultivated a very desirable inventory. Let me know, if you would like to move forward. _

andres3

mjfloyd1 said:

@Michaell said:

Congrats!

Did you get the payout value of the '18 increased?

Sadly only $500 so far. I sent them the Manheim report and pointed out that they are not even offering auction value.

I only paid 49k tho…

I wonder if they have any clauses in the contract that don't require them to pay current market values if those values are inflated beyond your initial purchase price. It's the end of the world if someone should happen to "profit" from an insurance claim.

andres3

breld said:

Yesterday, before we decided on the Volvo, I emailed the sales manager at the MB dealership that was adding $1,500 - $5,000 markups on their GLE’s.

I politely said we were shopping seriously and understand other dealerships were offering modest discounts, and since they had models in stock that we may be interested in, whether they would be price competitive.

His response…

_I can understand your looking for a deal. We are using Market Adjustment for all inventory at this time. We are struggling with inventory and thus the premium. As someone is the housing industry you have seen the supply and demand and are riding that wave.

The deals these days is getting the vehicle you want. We have cultivated a very desirable inventory. Let me know, if you would like to move forward. _

Dealerships seem to have boiler-plate responses for written negotiations....
The real test is when you make an offer face to face over the table committing your time to the deal. That's when you find out if they really want to turn away money.

andres3

xwesx said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Sadly only $500 so far. I sent them the Manheim report and pointed out that they are not even offering auction value.

I only paid 49k tho…

Still, it doesn't matter what you paid. It only matters what the fair market value is to replace the vehicle. Seriously; these guys should know this stuff. It's disgusting that they're even willing to play games on it when you're on the sidelines, as the customer, getting the short end of it.

An insurance company playing games? Really? Say it ain't so!!!!

Never heard of such a thing! I was born yesterday.

henryn

andres3 said:

xwesx said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Sadly only $500 so far. I sent them the Manheim report and pointed out that they are not even offering auction value.

I only paid 49k tho…

Still, it doesn't matter what you paid. It only matters what the fair market value is to replace the vehicle. Seriously; these guys should know this stuff. It's disgusting that they're even willing to play games on it when you're on the sidelines, as the customer, getting the short end of it.

An insurance company playing games? Really? Say it ain't so!!!!

Never heard of such a thing! I was born yesterday.

Yes, but were you born at night? As in, last night?

sda

andres3 said:

sda said:

@mjfloyd1

Is the Q7 eligible to be CPO'd? That may be a less costly option that provides bumper to bumper coverage.

Audi's certified pre-owned (CPO) program extends coverage by 1 year and unlimited miles past the expiration of the vehicle’s original 4-year/50,000 mile new car warranty. It also comes with a thorough inspection and often includes special financing rates.

That CPO is as good as the dealership doing the certifications and inspections. One has to wonder when even a rather good dealership replaces, brakes, rotors, brake pads, and cleans up the car nice, only to leave cracked dry-rotted tires on that make the steering wheel vibrate north of 70 MPH (I can't be the only one that ignores the speed limit on CA freeways). Of course, wasn't there an article where they got mad at a mechanic that tested a recent almost-new Corvette at 103 MPH on the freeway while it was in the shop? I considered that "doing his job" since it was just in a straight line with no funny business going on.

That's true and I have first hand experience of that. When we bought the Honda CPO Pilot I found out afterwards it had $5500 damage repairs due to hitting a deer. The repair invoice was mistakenly left in the glove box. It had a clean Car Fax. I was able to take the Pilot back and renegotiate the price and obtained a letter of assurance that if we had any issues related to the repair it would be covered. No issues were experienced during our ownership by the repair. It gave us 100k mi of good solid service.

In the case of the Q7, it is new with only 7k mi on it. The dealer's wife drove it. I think that one is a very safe bet it is 100% fine.

andres3

mjfloyd1 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

I wonder do insurance adjusters get some sort of sleaze bonus for trying to jerk you around? They must know that it will cost more to replace that car now than it did last year. Why do they try the low ball nonsense?

The adjuster described himself as an ex policeman who looks at accidents to determine fault. He is “not a car guy”. All I heard was blah blah blah after that.

Don’t worry, I’ll make it painful for them🤣

Careful, I think some of those people in that industry are the types that enjoy the pain.

andres3

sda said:

andres3 said:

sda said:

@mjfloyd1

Is the Q7 eligible to be CPO'd? That may be a less costly option that provides bumper to bumper coverage.

Audi's certified pre-owned (CPO) program extends coverage by 1 year and unlimited miles past the expiration of the vehicle’s original 4-year/50,000 mile new car warranty. It also comes with a thorough inspection and often includes special financing rates.

That CPO is as good as the dealership doing the certifications and inspections. One has to wonder when even a rather good dealership replaces, brakes, rotors, brake pads, and cleans up the car nice, only to leave cracked dry-rotted tires on that make the steering wheel vibrate north of 70 MPH (I can't be the only one that ignores the speed limit on CA freeways). Of course, wasn't there an article where they got mad at a mechanic that tested a recent almost-new Corvette at 103 MPH on the freeway while it was in the shop? I considered that "doing his job" since it was just in a straight line with no funny business going on.

That's true and I have first hand experience of that. When we bought the Honda CPO Pilot I found out afterwards it had $5500 damage repairs due to hitting a deer. The repair invoice was mistakenly left in the glove box. It had a clean Car Fax. I was able to take the Pilot back and renegotiate the price and obtained a letter of assurance that if we had any issues related to the repair it would be covered. No issues were experienced during our ownership by the repair. It gave us 100k mi of good solid service.

In the case of the Q7, it is new with only 7k mi on it. The dealer's wife drove it. I think that one is a very safe bet it is 100% fine.

I think I've said this before, but Audi of Escondido won major brownie points and KUDOS when I saw that they took my old crashed up S4 with only 48K miles and about only 3 years of age, and put it in the "pre-owned" inventory and not the CPO inventory; even though I believe the Car Fax might have been clean....a very strong belief and almost certainty.

andres3

roadburner said:

@corvette said:

With all the games dealers play, I can't blame the buyer for assuming that was a fib and trying to get a better price.

I remember the story one of the salespeople told about the guy who negotiated with a green pea on a hot selling Mazdaspeed. The green pea inked a deal that was over $1000 less than the going market price for that model. The sales manager was going to honor the deal but prior to delivery the buyer calls up and tells the SM that he's talked with some "expert" friends and he's decided that the dealer is screwing him over; he wants an even better price or the deal is off. Needless to say, the SM gladly agreed to ashcan the sales contract. After shopping the price a bit the shrewd buyer returned expecting the SM to honor the original deal- and became very irate when the SM refused.

So how does the story end? Did the buyer buy the Speed3 and learn a $1,000 lesson, or move onto another brand for the rest of their life? And if so, did the SM get 1,000 more from someone else?

andres3

28firefighter said:

Audi branded with consumables. One set of rotors and pads on a Q7 these days is no joke. But that’s just me.

Never pay the Stealership cost of a brake job. Find a good indy that sources the parts from the manufacturer and gets OEM without the OEM price (or even better than OEM).

tifighter

Congrats @breld on the addition. The color combo is top notch. Now we need to see a family picture of it next to the Polestar.

oldfarmer50

sda said:

andres3 said:

sda said:

@mjfloyd1

Is the Q7 eligible to be CPO'd? That may be a less costly option that provides bumper to bumper coverage.

Audi's certified pre-owned (CPO) program extends coverage by 1 year and unlimited miles past the expiration of the vehicle’s original 4-year/50,000 mile new car warranty. It also comes with a thorough inspection and often includes special financing rates.

That CPO is as good as the dealership doing the certifications and inspections. One has to wonder when even a rather good dealership replaces, brakes, rotors, brake pads, and cleans up the car nice, only to leave cracked dry-rotted tires on that make the steering wheel vibrate north of 70 MPH (I can't be the only one that ignores the speed limit on CA freeways). Of course, wasn't there an article where they got mad at a mechanic that tested a recent almost-new Corvette at 103 MPH on the freeway while it was in the shop? I considered that "doing his job" since it was just in a straight line with no funny business going on.

That's true and I have first hand experience of that. When we bought the Honda CPO Pilot I found out afterwards it had $5500 damage repairs due to hitting a deer. The repair invoice was mistakenly left in the glove box. It had a clean Car Fax. I was able to take the Pilot back and renegotiate the price and obtained a letter of assurance that if we had any issues related to the repair it would be covered. No issues were experienced during our ownership by the repair. It gave us 100k mi of good solid service.

In the case of the Q7, it is new with only 7k mi on it. The dealer's wife drove it. I think that one is a very safe bet it is 100% fine.

I’m of two minds on cars that “the manager’s wife drove”. The assumption of course is that the manager’s wife only drive slowly to church or the market so the car is better than new and she worked all the bugs out.

However, is there any way to verify that and how do we know the manager’s wife wasn’t a professional drag racer who liked to off-road and lend the car to their teenager?

When I briefly considered getting a new Mustang Mach1 I drove to a nearby dealer who had one in inventory. I was told that the sales manager was driving it as his personal car. Visions of burnouts drove out any desire I had of buying it.

henryn

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

andres3 said:

sda said:

@mjfloyd1

Is the Q7 eligible to be CPO'd? That may be a less costly option that provides bumper to bumper coverage.

Audi's certified pre-owned (CPO) program extends coverage by 1 year and unlimited miles past the expiration of the vehicle’s original 4-year/50,000 mile new car warranty. It also comes with a thorough inspection and often includes special financing rates.

That CPO is as good as the dealership doing the certifications and inspections. One has to wonder when even a rather good dealership replaces, brakes, rotors, brake pads, and cleans up the car nice, only to leave cracked dry-rotted tires on that make the steering wheel vibrate north of 70 MPH (I can't be the only one that ignores the speed limit on CA freeways). Of course, wasn't there an article where they got mad at a mechanic that tested a recent almost-new Corvette at 103 MPH on the freeway while it was in the shop? I considered that "doing his job" since it was just in a straight line with no funny business going on.

That's true and I have first hand experience of that. When we bought the Honda CPO Pilot I found out afterwards it had $5500 damage repairs due to hitting a deer. The repair invoice was mistakenly left in the glove box. It had a clean Car Fax. I was able to take the Pilot back and renegotiate the price and obtained a letter of assurance that if we had any issues related to the repair it would be covered. No issues were experienced during our ownership by the repair. It gave us 100k mi of good solid service.

In the case of the Q7, it is new with only 7k mi on it. The dealer's wife drove it. I think that one is a very safe bet it is 100% fine.

I’m of two minds on cars that “the manager’s wife drove”. The assumption of course is that the manager’s wife only drive slowly to church or the market so the car is better than new and she worked all the bugs out.

However, is there any way to verify that and how do we know the manager’s wife wasn’t a professional drag racer who liked to off-road and lend the car to their teenager?

When I briefly considered getting a new Mustang Mach1 I drove to a nearby dealer who had one in inventory. I was told that the sales manager was driving it as his personal car. Visions of burnouts drove out any desire I had of buying it.

Whenever the dealer offers me a “demo” unit, I remember a story my brother told me. This happened many years ago, when he was the service manager in a small Chrysler-Plymouth dealership. This was in a small town, where everyone knew everyone. He got a phone call one Sunday morning from the local Highway Patrolman, who of course knew my brother. One of the dealership’s cars, with dealer tags, was sitting abandoned by the side of the highway. Engine running, driver’s door opened, and no one around. And did I mention it was raining?

The salesman was never heard from again. No, I don’t think he disappeared into the twilight zone. My brother suspicioned he was on an alcoholic binge, and when he sobered up he decided to relocate instead of trying to explain his actions. Just a guess, but probably a good one.

carnaught

Congrats @breld on the Volvo!

andres3

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

andres3 said:

sda said:

@mjfloyd1

Is the Q7 eligible to be CPO'd? That may be a less costly option that provides bumper to bumper coverage.

Audi's certified pre-owned (CPO) program extends coverage by 1 year and unlimited miles past the expiration of the vehicle’s original 4-year/50,000 mile new car warranty. It also comes with a thorough inspection and often includes special financing rates.

That CPO is as good as the dealership doing the certifications and inspections. One has to wonder when even a rather good dealership replaces, brakes, rotors, brake pads, and cleans up the car nice, only to leave cracked dry-rotted tires on that make the steering wheel vibrate north of 70 MPH (I can't be the only one that ignores the speed limit on CA freeways). Of course, wasn't there an article where they got mad at a mechanic that tested a recent almost-new Corvette at 103 MPH on the freeway while it was in the shop? I considered that "doing his job" since it was just in a straight line with no funny business going on.

That's true and I have first hand experience of that. When we bought the Honda CPO Pilot I found out afterwards it had $5500 damage repairs due to hitting a deer. The repair invoice was mistakenly left in the glove box. It had a clean Car Fax. I was able to take the Pilot back and renegotiate the price and obtained a letter of assurance that if we had any issues related to the repair it would be covered. No issues were experienced during our ownership by the repair. It gave us 100k mi of good solid service.

In the case of the Q7, it is new with only 7k mi on it. The dealer's wife drove it. I think that one is a very safe bet it is 100% fine.

I’m of two minds on cars that “the manager’s wife drove”. The assumption of course is that the manager’s wife only drive slowly to church or the market so the car is better than new and she worked all the bugs out.

However, is there any way to verify that and how do we know the manager’s wife wasn’t a professional drag racer who liked to off-road and lend the car to their teenager?

When I briefly considered getting a new Mustang Mach1 I drove to a nearby dealer who had one in inventory. I was told that the sales manager was driving it as his personal car. Visions of burnouts drove out any desire I had of buying it.

The tires would show signs of burnouts if they had been done; of course, if the car has 4 brand new tires, and only 7K miles, chances are you have your answer.

jpp75

tifighter said:

Congrats @breld on the addition. The color combo is top notch. Now we need to see a family picture of it next to the Polestar.

I met @breld Monday to look at it and it is a great color combo, probably my favorite of all the Volvo color combinations.

mjfloyd1

@andres3 said:
Never pay the Stealership cost of a brake job. Find a good indy that sources the parts from the manufacturer and gets OEM without the OEM price (or even better than OEM).

Did you notice that I have key fob coverage though???

breld

@tifighter said:
Congrats @breld on the addition. The color combo is top notch. Now we need to see a family picture of it next to the Polestar.

stickguy

nice looking garage. I find it amusing though that you bought another car before the first one even has real license plates on it.

Need to update that signature line too. I know that you remember how!

qbrozen

I’m jealous of how clean your garage is

laurasdada

Congrats, breld. it's been a while...

I may have created a monster; the LF has fallen in love (on paper/web site, at least) with a '21 MB GLE450. MSRP is 25% higher than the highest price used cars I showed her. She's still planning to shop in person on Friday. I know we won't be buying a (used) Porsche 911, I can't believe the prices from a year ago! And, I guess the GLE must be more feminine than the MB SL she decided against. I also showed her some used MB E wagons, but she doesn't like station wagons. Whatever Lola wants.

Just me, not a fan of extended warranties. I'd self-insure. I didn't buy one for the A7e (or the Jag and I didn't need one). I'm enjoying the A7e, but it may be the first car I trade out of before the original warranty expires, or shortly thereafter. Funny, I didn't think I'd keep the Jag more than one year post-warranty, but I went 3.25 years beyond, with no big hits to the wallet.

corvette

stickguy said:

I find it amusing though that you bought another car before the first one even has real license plates on it.

This is your first time noticing that with @breld ?

roadburner

andres3 said:

roadburner said:

@corvette said:

With all the games dealers play, I can't blame the buyer for assuming that was a fib and trying to get a better price.

I remember the story one of the salespeople told about the guy who negotiated with a green pea on a hot selling Mazdaspeed. The green pea inked a deal that was over $1000 less than the going market price for that model. The sales manager was going to honor the deal but prior to delivery the buyer calls up and tells the SM that he's talked with some "expert" friends and he's decided that the dealer is screwing him over; he wants an even better price or the deal is off. Needless to say, the SM gladly agreed to ashcan the sales contract. After shopping the price a bit the shrewd buyer returned expecting the SM to honor the original deal- and became very irate when the SM refused.

So how does the story end? Did the buyer buy the Speed3 and learn a $1,000 lesson, or move onto another brand for the rest of their life? And if so, did the SM get 1,000 more from someone else?

I believe it was a Mazdaspeed Protege; the guy bought it.

au1994

corvette said:

stickguy said:

I find it amusing though that you bought another car before the first one even has real license plates on it.

This is your first time noticing that with @breld ?

wasn’t there one that never got regular plates before it was traded due to COVID backlog? this is why he is our hero!

Michaell

qbrozen said:

I’m jealous of how clean your garage is

You should see what Mrs @breld has done with the pantry…

corvette

roadburner said:

I believe it was a Mazdaspeed Protege; the guy bought it.

Someone who angrily agrees to a purchase would seem less likely to give a positive survey. I'm sure the game is different now, but my recollection is that dealerships generally used to be allowed to throw out a certain percentage of bad surveys.

tjc78

@breld said:

@tifighter said:
Congrats @breld on the addition. The color combo is top notch. Now we need to see a family picture of it next to the Polestar.

Congrats @breld

We have something in common … guess we need signs “Volvo parking only”

breld

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

All have small list of exclusions.

So air suspension and electronics covered on all

Only bummer is the one with brake/ rotor coverage is only 6/72k and starts at in service date. But $0 deductible

Allstate would start today and is 7/ 85k but no brake pads and rotor coverage…and $100 deductible

I haven't read up the rest after this message today, so apologies if this is all settled.

I think I would go with the 7/100/100 deductible. Even though it doesn't include brakes, I think you'll get the most bang for the buck if you especially want it for things like electronics and air suspension. Plus, the warranty will still have life (possibly) when you go to sell or trade, and there's value in that.

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

Did you notice that I have key fob coverage though???

Oh, that's waaaaay below the belt!

xwesx

qbrozen said:

I’m jealous of how clean your garage is

I'm starting to think that maybe @breld's threshold for moving to a new home is when his garage begins to show signs of clutter....

nyccarguy

xwesx said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Did you notice that I have key fob coverage though???

Oh, that's waaaaay below the belt!

I just realized that when you posted this! HYSTERICAL!

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

I’m jealous of how clean your garage is

+1

laurasdada

Mr. breld: curious, what brand of L2 charger did you put in your garage?

breld

laurasdada said:

Mr. breld: curious, what brand of L2 charger did you put in your garage?

It’s an older 32 amp Chargepoint. I bought that a few years ago when we purchased a used BMW i3 so already had it when we got the Leaf, and subsequently the Polestar 2. I had initially thought I’d want to upgrade to a 40 amp model for quicker charging, but realized that it didn’t make any difference for the Polestar, particularly considering I’m rarely below 50% battery anyway…either way, it easily “fills up” overnight.

mjfloyd1

@nyccarguy said:
I just realized that when you posted this! HYSTERICAL!

Sometimes it’s the only thing that works…

ab348

For all of you with a Wrangler 4xE on order, here is a review for your perusal (though I wonder if anyone actually cares how it drives):

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/reviews/2021-jeep-wrangler-4xe-review

kyfdx

Wrangler 4xe peeps: I'm not positive, but I think the residual dropped by 2%, starting today

qbrozen

kyfdx said:

Wrangler 4xe peeps: I'm not positive, but I think the residual dropped by 2%, starting today

Wouldn't surprise me. As long as they still waive acq fee, the lower residual and lower MF equates to less than 1% difference in monthly.

au1994

qbrozen said:

kyfdx said:

Wrangler 4xe peeps: I'm not positive, but I think the residual dropped by 2%, starting today

Wouldn't surprise me. As long as they still waive acq fee, the lower residual and lower MF equates to less than 1% difference in monthly.

Thats what my guy thought they would do.

henryn

corvette said:

roadburner said:

I believe it was a Mazdaspeed Protege; the guy bought it.

Someone who angrily agrees to a purchase would seem less likely to give a positive survey. I'm sure the game is different now, but my recollection is that dealerships generally used to be allowed to throw out a certain percentage of bad surveys.

Going way back, I had heard or read the same thing, about dealerships being allowed to throw out a certain percentage of bad surveys. But I can tell you this for a certainty. Back in 1994 I purchased a Dodge Dakota with the V8 engine, a real hot rod. But I had a lot of trouble with the new truck, and the dealer was the real pits. One service writer I tried to deal with was functionally illiterate, I kid you not. Hard to believe, but true.

The manager (general manager? sales manager? whatever) called me on the phone one day, and offered me a $100 bill if I would bring the survey to him when it arrived in the mail from Chrysler Corporation. I refused.

Fast forward about 6 months, and the Houston Chronicle had a long article in the Sunday edition about that very dealership. It seems they were basically a prison gang. All of the managers, and many of the employees had served time together in the Texas state prison system.